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The Final Tonight Show With Conan O'Brien Thread
DJ Eebs
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Starring:
CONAN O'BRIEN
ANDY RICHTER
JAY LENO
DAVID LETTERMAN
CRAIG FERGUSON
JIMMY KIMMEL
THE OTHER JIMMY
AND CARSON DALY
CONAN O'BRIEN
ANDY RICHTER
JAY LENO
DAVID LETTERMAN
CRAIG FERGUSON
JIMMY KIMMEL
THE OTHER JIMMY
AND CARSON DALY
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I always smile when you post, goobs
Guess I'll catch that in 10 mins.
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I'm going to pour one out for Conan
I'll put it in spoilers for everyone that doesn't want to hear jay talk or lives in a place with a proper time zone:
So time goes by and we stay number one up until the day we leave. We hand - (applause)-No, no. Okay, but I’m leaving before my contract is out. About six to eight months early. So before I could go anywhere else, I would be at least a year or 18 months before I could go and do a show somewhere else. I said to NBC, ‘would you release me from my contract.’ They said, ‘we want to keep you here.’ Okay. What are your ideas? They said, ‘how about primetime?’ I said, ‘that will never work.’ No, no, we want to put you on at 10:00. We have done focus groups. People will love you at 10:00. Look at these studies showing Jay’s chin at 10:00. People will go crazy. Didn’t seem like a good idea at the time. I said, ‘alright, can I keep my staff?’ There are 175 people that work here. I said, ‘can I keep my staff?’ Yes, you can. Let’s try it. We guarantee you two years on the air, guaranteed.
Now for the first four or five months against original shows like “CSI” you’ll get killed, but in the spring and summer when the reruns come, that’s when you’ll pick up. Okay, great. I agree to that.
Four months go by, we don’t make it. Meanwhile, Conan’s show during the summer, we’re not on, was not doing well. The great hope was that we would help him. Well, we didn’t help him any, okay. They come and go, ‘this show isn’t working. We want to let you go.’ Can you let me out of my contract? No, you’re still a valuable asset to this company. How valuable can I be? You fired me twice. How valuable can I be? Okay. So then, the affiliates are not happy. The affiliates are the ones that own the TV stations. They’re the ones that sort of makes the decisions, they’re not happy with your performance and Conan is not doing well at 11:30. I said, ‘what’s your idea?’ They said, ‘well, look, how about you do a half hour show at 11:30?’ Now, where I come from, when your boss gives you a job and you don’t do it well, I think we did a good job here, but we didn’t’ get the ratings, so you get humbled. I said, ‘okay, I’m not crazy about doing a half hour, but okay. What do you want to do with Conan?’ We’ll put him on at midnight, or 12:05, keeps “The Tonight Show” does all that, he gets the whole hour. I said, okay. You think Conan will go for that? Yes, yes. (laughter) Almost guarantee you. I said okay. Shake hands, that’s it. I don’t have a manager, I don’t have an agent, that’s my handshake deal.
Next thing I see Conan has a story in the paper saying he doesn’t want to do that. They come back to me and they say if he decides to walk and doesn’t want to do it, do you want the show back? I go, ‘yeah, I’ll take the show back. If that’s what he wants to do. This way, we keep our people working, fine.’ So that’s pretty much where we are. It looks like we might be back at 11:30, I’m not sure. I don’t know. (applause) I don’t know. But through all of this - through all of this, Conan O’Brien has been a gentleman. He’s a good guy. I have no animosity towards him. This is all business. If you don’t get the ratings, they take you off the air. I think you know this town, you can do almost anything. You get ratings they keep you. I wasn't getting the ratings. He wasn't getting the ratings. That was NBC’s solution. It didn’t work. So we might have an answer for you tomorrow. So, we’ll see. That’s basically where it is."
Saying goodbye to the only talk show host that could ever hold my interest!
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like anyone could say no to more norm
there is always room for more Norm
here is one of my favorite moments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBe-eYM0fGc
but then, so has jimmy fallon
anyway I like that appearance of norm macdonald on the late night with conan o'brien show
Jimmy's on NBC and probably doesn't want to risk his contract getting axed over something that he has had no part in.
and you can say hello again when his Fox show debuts this fall
Like we where talking about this whole thing and work and everyone who I consider cool where like "Man Jay Leno just isn't funny, Conan rocks" even one of the 45 year old managers who grew up with Leno likes Conan more. But then theres these two guys who...well there not like rednecks or anything but there as hillbilly as you can be out here, there all "NO WAY! Leno is amazing Conan sucks"
I just don't get it. What where people watching?
You really aren't giving him much credit. His speech is what you would call a positive spin.
People at the Golden Globes where like that. At lunch today I saw Inside Edition because it was on at the restaurant and they tried to talk to a bunch of NBC people and there all like "No opinion. I'm just glad to have work."
Extraordinary takes time
However, I still believe NBC's best step forward was to just cut Leno loose and buy him out instead of Conan. This current situation is only going to destroy both of them further.
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I wish I had a picture of that on this computer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORgRYGCia3M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNNEpvvusO0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDkJCvUIhoY
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Yes, but network executives don't get where they are by being open minded and rational.
They are stubborn, thick headed creatures.
And besides, I doubt Conan would want the job at this point even if they offered it to him. The relationship between them is damaged and there will never be trust between them. You'd basically have to reorganize the NBC executive staff and axe all the heads who were involved with this in order to move on.
I would imagine Fox
Maybe CBS and ABC
Remember this was a few years ago when Letterman wasn't doing so well and Conan was at 12:35
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ABC, also, probably. They were sniffing around Jay Leno recently too, which may be part of the reason Kimmel hates him so much.
Oh, and Bucketman, you're mixing up "were" and "where" as well as "they're," "there," and "their." I hope you don't take this the wrong way, just looking out
Probably
I was a bit suspicious of his
"ethical nobility"
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Conan's people were still trying to talk NBC out of the whole thing even as they were bargaining for his release. It's honestly not in his best interests to stay, especially the way things are right now at NBC, but it's still the Tonight Show. I think if they were to come up to him right now and say he can keep the 11:35 slot and still do the Tonight Show, he'd probably accept.
well, and the fact that kimmel is a comedian, and all comedians apparently hate jay leno
the brilliant part of that all leno episode he did was how spot-on it was