Who here is a vegetarian/vegan, and why did you choose that kind of lifestyle?
vegetarian for 5+ years because someone bet me I couldn't eat meat for 8 years
I have more and better reasons than that but I find most meat-eaters who really ask 'why don't you eat meat?' are just looking to get in an argument over nothing. So I tell them the dare thing so we can quickly get to the part where they feel superior to me and leave me alone. But not all meat eaters are dicks, just some. Just like vegetarians
It's funny, because I've not met one meat eater that has given me a great deal of grief for being a vegetarian. Perhaps I'm just lucky.
You are lucky. It is one thing to be teased or lightly made fun of but it is another thing to be sat down and told in great detail how wrong it is to not eat meat. I had it bad for a while but it has gotten much better.
You're just bitter that the cougar in Baltimore was giving you shit.
If I had to eat meat from the grocery market, I would totally be a vegetarian. Long before Food Inc. came out, I was grossed out by how meat is raised and processed. Plus its cruel to treat animals the way they do in factory farms.
As it is though, My parents raise sheep, pigs, rabbits and chickens(for eggs and meat) and my in-laws raise sheep, chickens and pigs and cows (for meat and milk). My wife and I are getting a couple of spring lambs this year to raise on some leased land and are probably going to get a dozen chickens or so for the eggs.
The animals are raised on lush green Vermont pastures and really have an awesome life (until butchering day). The meat is soo delicious. I just can't eat store-bought meat anymore, it's bland, tough and disgusting.
We still eat vegetarian meals two or three times a week. Even though we have access to all this incredible meat, I still don't get the "slab of meat at every meal" mindset.
You're just bitter that the cougar in Baltimore was giving you shit.
bitter? more like :winky:
didn't we get her to do shots with us? Or did I make that up?
iamthepieman I would consider eating meat again from your family farm it sounds pretty nice.
She offered to, but I don't think that she ever did.
If you'd eat meat from family farms and things like that then I'll take you to the Farmer's Market on Saturday if you'd like. Amish raised beef and pork. No large scale operations.
You're just bitter that the cougar in Baltimore was giving you shit.
bitter? more like :winky:
didn't we get her to do shots with us? Or did I make that up?
iamthepieman I would consider eating meat again from your family farm it sounds pretty nice.
Smalle scale farming is actually becoming really popular in this state. My wife and I are going to the NOFA conference in two weeks to learn more about it.
You live anywhere near Vermont Vermi? We're gearing up to start selling lamb and pork. The first chop's free. But the next one'll cost ya.8-)
I was a very content vegetarian for a while. I quit when I wanted to lose weight because there was just no way to do both. So, for better or for worse, vanity has trumped ethics for me. I might go back to veggiehood one day. Right now I'm pretty carnivorous, and yes I realize the planet couldn't support billions of people who eat like me -- such is life.
My God, my mom was tolerant. She cooked veggie things for me. She's a foodie, so making restrictive choices about eating is pretty alien to her, but she adapted. I was in awe.
One of the reasons I love living where I do is the access to really fresh produce, dairy and meat.
Now, the dairy is from a farm just down the road and while it is a bit more expensive, it's outstanding. The produce...well, that's just good and cheap.
The meat is actually usually rather pricey compared to supermarket cuts but the quality is far and away superior. If I need the good stuff it's off to the market.
We get our meat from a farmer who has, maybe 6 cows at any given time. He names them and feeds them grass for their lives, then vegetables to fatten them up at the end. We buy 1/2 a cow a year, the quality of the meat is outstanding, the ground beef comes from a single cow, not a few hundred, and this year his name was Jerry.
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at home we are pretty close to vegetarian though because we are indian and most of the food from our part of india is veggie and my parents don't eat lots of meat, but they do eat meat, but most of our indian family friends don't
i love meat personally
i try to buy as much of it as i can from the farmer's market though, grass fed, local, etc etc
I was vegan for about a year and a half back when I was an angsty teenager. every once in a while I consider going back. still might.
my thinking wasn't that eating animals was right or wrong just that it wasn't necessary so I chose not to do it. It was a personal choice not so much a belief system or anything.
i love urban argiculture I get nerdy reading about it. In fact I recently just purchased this season's edition of urban farm.
all of you with flourishing farmer's markets are making me jealous. There is one near me, but it is lacking compared to what I had in portland or ann arbor, and lacking compared to what you guys talk about.
t pieman: you gotta move back and compete with the chicken farmers on the eastern shore they are the worst
t shaz: I love indian vegetarian meals. or I guess I love bastardized american indian meals. I always try and make indian dishes but I always screw it up.
Who here is a [vegetarian]/vegan, and why did you choose that kind of lifestyle?
Started for Buddhism, stayed for the food and the health (and Buddhism). I used to be a "meat is tasty" person too, but I enjoy eating much more now.
I remember even the first day being very awkward, having to order vegetarian around others. I would encourage anyone who's considering it to try it at least for that one day though. 2.5 years later, I haven't looked back.
Who here is a [vegetarian]/vegan, and why did you choose that kind of lifestyle?
Started for Buddhism, stayed for the food and the health (and Buddhism). I used to be a "meat is tasty" person too, but I enjoy eating much more now.
I remember even the first day being very awkward, having to order vegetarian around others. I would encourage anyone who's considering it to try it at least for that one day though. 2.5 years later, I haven't looked back.
Meat is healthy for you.
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Funny this thread popped up today. I had a long discussion with my brother about feeding vegetarians a few hours ago. He's just picked up cooking in the last couple of years, and I think he's still in a place where the concept of a main course without meat is confusing.
I myself haven't been a vegetarian in ages, but I'd still say I like vegetables and grains and dairy and fruit more than meat. If I had to give up something it'd be meat - it wouldn't be too hard since I gave up seafood six, going on seven years ago, and that was my favourite anyway. (Pork and beef make my stomach sort of displeased, too. Even though they can both be delicious.) However, I will say that eggs and chicken in Korea are somehow a million times more delicious than they were in the States. I am pretty sure that the chickens the shamanistic temple where I worked out in summer raised are the same ones that I ate later in the week, and the color of the egg yolks is this beautiful orange...
Vermiculture, the Ann Arbor market was great! I wrote about the Kalamazoo farmer's market a few weeks ago out of corn and apple related nostalgia, and this afternoon I was looking at the Zingerman's deli website and positively pining.
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"Sandra has a good solid anti-murderer vibe. My skin felt very secure and sufficiently attached to my body when I met her. Also my organs." HAIL SATAN
I've been mostly a vegetarian for about a year now, and I am feeling pretty good about it. I still occasionally eat meat, particularily when I am visiting my parents.
Recently I have been getting a bit worried about my diet though. While it is probably not particularily awful many if not most of my dishes are based on noodles, pasta, rice or quinoa. I'm considering finding a vegetarian Dietitian and scheduling a meeting to help me get some perspective on my eating habits. I'm a pretty decent cook so I expect that if I buy a fridge full of healthy food I will manage to figure out a way of making it taste good.
i love urban argiculture I get nerdy reading about it. In fact I recently just purchased this season's edition of urban farm.
all of you with flourishing farmer's markets are making me jealous. There is one near me, but it is lacking compared to what I had in portland or ann arbor, and lacking compared to what you guys talk about.
t pieman: you gotta move back and compete with the chicken farmers on the eastern shore they are the worst
t shaz: I love indian vegetarian meals. or I guess I love bastardized american indian meals. I always try and make indian dishes but I always screw it up.
The Enchanted Broccoli Forest is great for incredible vegetarian meals. She uses a lot of spices and the few Indian dishes in it are superb. If you're vegetarian, or just like to cook, you should really have this cookbook.
it's been around a long time, I don't know if gluten free sections are more prominant now than before
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FAQ, if you are asking me, I gave up seafood because of the threat of collapse in many ocean ecosystems due to current fishing practices. And because there are very few fish which can truly be farmed sustainably at the present time. And it's easier to just say "I don't eat seafood," than to say "I only eat three kinds of unthreatened/sustainably farmed bottom-of-the-food-chain marine life, and one of them is jellyfish which is awful."
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"Sandra has a good solid anti-murderer vibe. My skin felt very secure and sufficiently attached to my body when I met her. Also my organs." HAIL SATAN
oh man pieman what are you doing to me. let's talk about how awesome vermiculture (not me, but the practice) is.
you can both be awesome.
But yes, vermiculture is awesome much the same way that grass-farming is. You get down to the fundamentals of life-support and the very elementals of the food-chain.
Grass grows from energy input via the sun and mineral input via the soil. The soil is fed by worm castings. when you think about it, mankind exists because of the top 6-12 inches of the earth and it's ability to nourish larger organisms.
It's too huge a subject to get into here but it just blows my thinking about emergent systems so necessary and fundamental to anything we humans do.
Did you know that if you don't feed your infants enough protein, they will be stupider?
the girlfriend was telling me about a couple in Seattle being brought up on charges because their infant was woefully underweight, taken from their custody, the child was cared for and fed properly. When the parents had a visit they said the state had made their child 'obese' and during a visitation fed the kid laxatives in it's formula.
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You're just bitter that the cougar in Baltimore was giving you shit.
As it is though, My parents raise sheep, pigs, rabbits and chickens(for eggs and meat) and my in-laws raise sheep, chickens and pigs and cows (for meat and milk). My wife and I are getting a couple of spring lambs this year to raise on some leased land and are probably going to get a dozen chickens or so for the eggs.
The animals are raised on lush green Vermont pastures and really have an awesome life (until butchering day). The meat is soo delicious. I just can't eat store-bought meat anymore, it's bland, tough and disgusting.
We still eat vegetarian meals two or three times a week. Even though we have access to all this incredible meat, I still don't get the "slab of meat at every meal" mindset.
bitter? more like :winky:
didn't we get her to do shots with us? Or did I make that up?
iamthepieman I would consider eating meat again from your family farm it sounds pretty nice.
She offered to, but I don't think that she ever did.
If you'd eat meat from family farms and things like that then I'll take you to the Farmer's Market on Saturday if you'd like. Amish raised beef and pork. No large scale operations.
Smalle scale farming is actually becoming really popular in this state. My wife and I are going to the NOFA conference in two weeks to learn more about it.
You live anywhere near Vermont Vermi? We're gearing up to start selling lamb and pork. The first chop's free. But the next one'll cost ya.8-)
My God, my mom was tolerant. She cooked veggie things for me. She's a foodie, so making restrictive choices about eating is pretty alien to her, but she adapted. I was in awe.
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We just moved from Maryland this past Summer. Land was too expensive down there to seriously consider farming on it.
Now, the dairy is from a farm just down the road and while it is a bit more expensive, it's outstanding. The produce...well, that's just good and cheap.
The meat is actually usually rather pricey compared to supermarket cuts but the quality is far and away superior. If I need the good stuff it's off to the market.
They cast a shadow like a sundial in the morning light. It was half past 10.
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at home we are pretty close to vegetarian though because we are indian and most of the food from our part of india is veggie and my parents don't eat lots of meat, but they do eat meat, but most of our indian family friends don't
i love meat personally
i try to buy as much of it as i can from the farmer's market though, grass fed, local, etc etc
fuck industrial farming practices
my thinking wasn't that eating animals was right or wrong just that it wasn't necessary so I chose not to do it. It was a personal choice not so much a belief system or anything.
I felt the same way after I shaved this weekend. I started getting carded again too
once, I was told that being vegetarian was just another form of intolerance.
now, I eat meat every chance I get, if only in the name of tolerance. and because it's tasty.
all of you with flourishing farmer's markets are making me jealous. There is one near me, but it is lacking compared to what I had in portland or ann arbor, and lacking compared to what you guys talk about.
t pieman: you gotta move back and compete with the chicken farmers on the eastern shore they are the worst
t shaz: I love indian vegetarian meals. or I guess I love bastardized american indian meals. I always try and make indian dishes but I always screw it up.
my parents are actually in india right now for 2 weeks
i called them they are like we are eating quite well
Started for Buddhism, stayed for the food and the health (and Buddhism). I used to be a "meat is tasty" person too, but I enjoy eating much more now.
I remember even the first day being very awkward, having to order vegetarian around others. I would encourage anyone who's considering it to try it at least for that one day though. 2.5 years later, I haven't looked back.
Meat is healthy for you.
I myself haven't been a vegetarian in ages, but I'd still say I like vegetables and grains and dairy and fruit more than meat. If I had to give up something it'd be meat - it wouldn't be too hard since I gave up seafood six, going on seven years ago, and that was my favourite anyway. (Pork and beef make my stomach sort of displeased, too. Even though they can both be delicious.) However, I will say that eggs and chicken in Korea are somehow a million times more delicious than they were in the States. I am pretty sure that the chickens the shamanistic temple where I worked out in summer raised are the same ones that I ate later in the week, and the color of the egg yolks is this beautiful orange...
Vermiculture, the Ann Arbor market was great! I wrote about the Kalamazoo farmer's market a few weeks ago out of corn and apple related nostalgia, and this afternoon I was looking at the Zingerman's deli website and positively pining.
"Sandra has a good solid anti-murderer vibe. My skin felt very secure and sufficiently attached to my body when I met her. Also my organs." HAIL SATAN
wanna eat that picture. I also love ethiopian restaurants. I can't get enough of that sponge bread
Recently I have been getting a bit worried about my diet though. While it is probably not particularily awful many if not most of my dishes are based on noodles, pasta, rice or quinoa. I'm considering finding a vegetarian Dietitian and scheduling a meeting to help me get some perspective on my eating habits. I'm a pretty decent cook so I expect that if I buy a fridge full of healthy food I will manage to figure out a way of making it taste good.
The Enchanted Broccoli Forest is great for incredible vegetarian meals. She uses a lot of spices and the few Indian dishes in it are superb. If you're vegetarian, or just like to cook, you should really have this cookbook.
has this stuff always been around cause I swear to god I just started seeing it a year ago
"Sandra has a good solid anti-murderer vibe. My skin felt very secure and sufficiently attached to my body when I met her. Also my organs." HAIL SATAN
what if you grew your own salmon in a bathtub?
"Sandra has a good solid anti-murderer vibe. My skin felt very secure and sufficiently attached to my body when I met her. Also my organs." HAIL SATAN
it was ignorant of me to assume that because South Korea is the better Korea that it would have running water
fruit, too
butternut squash? that's three fucking things, man, which is it
in the supermarket I worked at many moons ago it was about 100 things, anything that didn't scan properly was put through as butternut squash
the end
you can both be awesome.
But yes, vermiculture is awesome much the same way that grass-farming is. You get down to the fundamentals of life-support and the very elementals of the food-chain.
Grass grows from energy input via the sun and mineral input via the soil. The soil is fed by worm castings. when you think about it, mankind exists because of the top 6-12 inches of the earth and it's ability to nourish larger organisms.
It's too huge a subject to get into here but it just blows my thinking about emergent systems so necessary and fundamental to anything we humans do.
the girlfriend was telling me about a couple in Seattle being brought up on charges because their infant was woefully underweight, taken from their custody, the child was cared for and fed properly. When the parents had a visit they said the state had made their child 'obese' and during a visitation fed the kid laxatives in it's formula.
Fuck. Those. Parents.
t faq: yes dairy too.