What Fatboy is getting at here (and he's discussed it before) is the misuse of the term franchise. Most of us would actively despise this becoming a franchise. Unless of course you want to see Kick-Ass happy meals, Big-Daddy halloween costumes, and a Hit-Girl spin-off saturday morning cartoon.
A better term would probably be series, but even then, there's only the movie and the comic. And yes, a second "season" of the comic is planned, but has anything actually been started on it yet?
What Fatboy is getting at here (and he's discussed it before) is the misuse of the term franchise. Most of us would actively despise this becoming a franchise. Unless of course you want to see Kick-Ass happy meals, Big-Daddy halloween costumes, and a Hit-Girl spin-off saturday morning cartoon.
A better term would probably be series, but even then, there's only the movie and the comic. And yes, a second "season" of the comic is planned, but has anything actually been started on it yet?
I for one would totally endorse a Hit-Girl adult-aimed cartoon. And if there don't end up being Big-Daddy Halloween costumes, I will eat my hat.
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What Fatboy is getting at here (and he's discussed it before) is the misuse of the term franchise. Most of us would actively despise this becoming a franchise. Unless of course you want to see Kick-Ass happy meals, Big-Daddy halloween costumes, and a Hit-Girl spin-off saturday morning cartoon.
A better term would probably be series, but even then, there's only the movie and the comic. And yes, a second "season" of the comic is planned, but has anything actually been started on it yet?
I for one would totally endorse a Hit-Girl adult-aimed cartoon. And if there don't end up being Big-Daddy Halloween costumes, I will eat my hat.
If nobody made Big-Daddy costumes, how would I wear one?
Honestly, Big Daddy from the comic looks much better, and it would be easier to put together yourself too.
Hah. I used to own that coat. Sadly it is now 5 sizes too big for me. But, aesthetically, I like the movie one better. Batman with a gun just makes me feel warm and fuzzy somehow.
What Fatboy is getting at here (and he's discussed it before) is the misuse of the term franchise. Most of us would actively despise this becoming a franchise. Unless of course you want to see Kick-Ass happy meals, Big-Daddy halloween costumes, and a Hit-Girl spin-off saturday morning cartoon.
A better term would probably be series, but even then, there's only the movie and the comic. And yes, a second "season" of the comic is planned, but has anything actually been started on it yet?
I for one would totally endorse a Hit-Girl adult-aimed cartoon. And if there don't end up being Big-Daddy Halloween costumes, I will eat my hat.
I'm sure there will be a fair share of slutty Hit Girl costumes.
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Just because he paused before every other word? Any actor could do that.
Dunno about you, but I grew up watching Adam West as Batman on TV and, adjusting for the fogginess of memory and nostalgia, he had it down. Even the postures and mannerisms. The way he'd sort of awkwardly pose sometimes, one hand up near his face, elbow on his other hand crossing his chest? Adam West all day long.
Just because he paused before every other word? Any actor could do that.
Dunno about you, but I grew up watching Adam West as Batman on TV and, adjusting for the fogginess of memory and nostalgia, he had it down. Even the postures and mannerisms. The way he'd sort of awkwardly pose sometimes, one hand up near his face, elbow on his other hand crossing his chest? Adam West all day long.
While it was a very good, and funny performance, he was not channeling Adam West. It was a very, very exaggerated impersonation of Adam West.
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Which was probably the goal. Cause Big Daddy isn't a fucking actor, he's a psychotic father with a very skewed sense of what's right.
Well I more meant how awesome it was seeing a batman guy gun down mans and then burn the place down, all in a day's work - and at the same time act so fucking goofy to the point of absurdity
I don't know, I mean Red Mist renaming himself "The Motherf***er" seems a bit of an odd touch. I mean, even the villians in Wanted didn't tag themselves with pen names like that.
And how the hell do you pronounce that many *s?
Eh I just feel that it will just crap and will ignore the messages from the first movie. Kick-ass obviously isn't cut out to be a superheroe, hit girl needs to be normal and htat means no more killing/fighting/superheroeing etc. It might be a good movie but it seems that it won't be a good sequel.
It's not like the sequel is just a cash grab. It was intended from the start. The ending of the first film even telegraphs it.
And the message of the film was, "Having no power doesn't mean you have no responsibility." If Red Mist were to become enough of a problem to force Kick-Ass and Hit-Girl to respond, then they'd have no choice.
I just caught it yesterday myself. I'm confused about the sequel talk. Even a page ago, we were saying the movie was a commercial failure? Why the sequel then? Usually if it's on the border (like Silent Hill) we have to wait years to get an answer.
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There is a sequel coming out for the comic, so the story is already there. Additionally, it made back it's production budget easily. It's only a failure because Lionsgate is helmed by fucking retards who screwed the pooch with the advertising.
It was independently financed in the first place. Lionsgate only handled the distribution. As long as the original financiers got their investment plus a profit back, I there's no reason they shouldn't give the go-ahead to a sequel. They'll just have to find a smarter distributer next time around.
Normally I love sequels to stuff I enjoy but I really think any sequel is just gonna fuck it hard, for a start Chloe Mortetz is already 13, by the itme a movie comes around she'll be even older and I think HG works a lot because of her age.
And it was extremely cheap to make (in comparison to other movies) so I imagine they made some decent money?
According to wikipedia the budget was 28 million, and it's made over 73 million. Figure it's going to make a killing on disc release with the extended cut and it looks to me like it made impressive bank for an R rated film.
Of course, that isn't taking into account the advertising, which as mentioned before was insanely overbudgeted and appearently run by a complete and total silly-goose.
That was a lot of meh. What highlighted how conventional the film was were all the hints at unconventionality. Listen to the narrator. See the first ass-kicking Kick-Ass gets. Wonder what comes next. What happens when ordinary people put on costumes and take to the streets to fight crime? Apparently the same ol' comic book film, with dressing. I guess it starts of as some deconstruction of the super-hero, and some meta look costumes, and then promptly gives up and gives as a straight of a story as it can manage, with some twists. Everybody loves those.
Now to jump straight to a different point, and that is that I hate precocious children in film. Even when precociousness is disguised as adorably-dangerous; it's the same lame shtick, and it's still not cute. Oh, she said cunt. I'm gonna roll on the floor and laugh. Oh, just tell me when you'll stop. My tummy thanks you for doing something funnier. Like, you know, an old lady cursing. Oh, how hilarious that would've been.
The We're Doing The Ironic Music Thing Now, OK bits were tolerable. Which reminds me of something; watching this I just kept thinking of Tarantino and Kill Bill. Somewhat random, I suppose, but that man knows how to dance on that fine line of music.
Nicolas Cage was pretty great. I did not know he was in this.
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I thought it was doing very well in theaters. Like, extremely well.
You'd be wrong.
But Lionsgate is mostly to blame, as I think Vaughn and Millar already have gotten their money back, plus some.
Lionsgate seemed to think they had a Summer tentpole release on their hands, and marketed appropriately. Except they seemed to forget that:
- Kick-Ass was rated R
- Kick-Ass wasn't a sequel
- Kick-Ass starred nobody famous
- Kick-Ass was made on the cheap
- Kick-Ass is squarely intended for a niche market
- Kick-Ass opened in April
The blame is on them, I'm afraid. I mean, spending $50 million on advertising is something only done by mid-scale holiday films, like Sherlock Holmes. Not quirky, weird R-rated movies for teenaged geeks.
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That was a lot of meh. What highlighted how conventional the film was were all the hints at unconventionality. Listen to the narrator. See the first ass-kicking Kick-Ass gets. Wonder what comes next. What happens when ordinary people put on costumes and take to the streets to fight crime? Apparently the same ol' comic book film, with dressing. I guess it starts of as some deconstruction of the super-hero, and some meta look costumes, and then promptly gives up and gives as a straight of a story as it can manage, with some twists. Everybody loves those.
Well, the biggest problem here is that the goalposts are moved, moved again, and then removed entirely.
Kick-Ass, as proposed in the first act, is supposed to be a realistic take on what would happen if a teenager decided to become a superhero without powers or heaps of money. And the film delivered on that premise . . . . for about 45 minutes.
Then, the very second we see Hit Girl in action, that movie is over. Because a movie about the realistic problems of being a superhero don't conceivably involve:
- Teaming up with a father/daughter crimefighting duo
- Befriending another hero with a super-car
- Taking on an entire mob family with a bazooka, jet pack, and mini-gun.
The meta commentary -which goes mostly abandoned by the midway point- is just the film's pretense.
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A better term would probably be series, but even then, there's only the movie and the comic. And yes, a second "season" of the comic is planned, but has anything actually been started on it yet?
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it's rated R dude
I for one would totally endorse a Hit-Girl adult-aimed cartoon. And if there don't end up being Big-Daddy Halloween costumes, I will eat my hat.
If nobody made Big-Daddy costumes, how would I wear one?
Hah. I used to own that coat. Sadly it is now 5 sizes too big for me. But, aesthetically, I like the movie one better. Batman with a gun just makes me feel warm and fuzzy somehow.
I'm sure there will be a fair share of slutty Hit Girl costumes.
If they ever do another campy batman live action feature of SOME sort, be it TV special or whatever, Nick Cage must be him. No matter what.
Yeah by that Logic William Shatner could be a campy Batman
Oh my god.
Nick Cage was pretty funny, though. He had that borderline crazy tone that Adam West has, too.
Dunno about you, but I grew up watching Adam West as Batman on TV and, adjusting for the fogginess of memory and nostalgia, he had it down. Even the postures and mannerisms. The way he'd sort of awkwardly pose sometimes, one hand up near his face, elbow on his other hand crossing his chest? Adam West all day long.
While it was a very good, and funny performance, he was not channeling Adam West. It was a very, very exaggerated impersonation of Adam West.
Exactly, he's a huge nerd trying to be a super hero, of course he's going to act like what he thinks super heroes act like.
http://steelcloset.com/2010/05/05/fook-yeah-kick-ass-2-coming-out-in-2012/
it might be so awesome that it ends the world?
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And how the hell do you pronounce that many *s?
And it's not like Red Mist made any sense as a name.
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Eh I just feel that it will just crap and will ignore the messages from the first movie. Kick-ass obviously isn't cut out to be a superheroe, hit girl needs to be normal and htat means no more killing/fighting/superheroeing etc. It might be a good movie but it seems that it won't be a good sequel.
And the message of the film was, "Having no power doesn't mean you have no responsibility." If Red Mist were to become enough of a problem to force Kick-Ass and Hit-Girl to respond, then they'd have no choice.
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Already out of my theater. Bastards.
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It was independently financed in the first place. Lionsgate only handled the distribution. As long as the original financiers got their investment plus a profit back, I there's no reason they shouldn't give the go-ahead to a sequel. They'll just have to find a smarter distributer next time around.
Plus one of them is going to end up dead.
I thought it was doing very well in theaters. Like, extremely well.
According to wikipedia the budget was 28 million, and it's made over 73 million. Figure it's going to make a killing on disc release with the extended cut and it looks to me like it made impressive bank for an R rated film.
Of course, that isn't taking into account the advertising, which as mentioned before was insanely overbudgeted and appearently run by a complete and total silly-goose.
My family isn't really big on theaters so they usually only watch things on DVD these days.
Now to jump straight to a different point, and that is that I hate precocious children in film. Even when precociousness is disguised as adorably-dangerous; it's the same lame shtick, and it's still not cute. Oh, she said cunt. I'm gonna roll on the floor and laugh. Oh, just tell me when you'll stop. My tummy thanks you for doing something funnier. Like, you know, an old lady cursing. Oh, how hilarious that would've been.
The We're Doing The Ironic Music Thing Now, OK bits were tolerable. Which reminds me of something; watching this I just kept thinking of Tarantino and Kill Bill. Somewhat random, I suppose, but that man knows how to dance on that fine line of music.
Nicolas Cage was pretty great. I did not know he was in this.
You'd be wrong.
But Lionsgate is mostly to blame, as I think Vaughn and Millar already have gotten their money back, plus some.
Lionsgate seemed to think they had a Summer tentpole release on their hands, and marketed appropriately. Except they seemed to forget that:
- Kick-Ass was rated R
- Kick-Ass wasn't a sequel
- Kick-Ass starred nobody famous
- Kick-Ass was made on the cheap
- Kick-Ass is squarely intended for a niche market
- Kick-Ass opened in April
The blame is on them, I'm afraid. I mean, spending $50 million on advertising is something only done by mid-scale holiday films, like Sherlock Holmes. Not quirky, weird R-rated movies for teenaged geeks.
Well, the biggest problem here is that the goalposts are moved, moved again, and then removed entirely.
Kick-Ass, as proposed in the first act, is supposed to be a realistic take on what would happen if a teenager decided to become a superhero without powers or heaps of money. And the film delivered on that premise . . . . for about 45 minutes.
Then, the very second we see Hit Girl in action, that movie is over. Because a movie about the realistic problems of being a superhero don't conceivably involve:
- Teaming up with a father/daughter crimefighting duo
- Befriending another hero with a super-car
- Taking on an entire mob family with a bazooka, jet pack, and mini-gun.
The meta commentary -which goes mostly abandoned by the midway point- is just the film's pretense.