sometimes you get asked for ID when you open carry in philly- it is just a reality of the beast. elsewhere in the state, going unlicensed is fine (for open carrying), but in the big city you need a license. cool beans, that's fine. i am not trying to make an ACLU case out of being asked to furnish ID.
however i had a weapon pointed at me and i was set to prone. i was told unnecessarily that if i made a quick move (so far i had been absolutely compliant) i'd be shot twice in the head. i was disarmed and then finally my license was checked. i asked politely for the officer's name and badge #. i was refused and was told it'd be on the report. i asked for a copy of the report, i was refused.
this is exactly why i am into activism. this is such horseshit. every bystander within speaking distance was saying "that's fucked up, man, he wasn't hurtin' no one" "so what if he had a gun? man that shit is fucked up" "why you pointing a gun at that kid?" etc
i didn't lose any hearts or minds
but i will get to educate some people, and i will get the policy in philly publicized and maybe even shifted, however incrementally
i broke no law and i was subject to a felony stop; it was unjust and disproportionate
That's hilarious.
you're a classy guy, thanatosian
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Dawww my boss' beagle is so cuuuute!
I'mma howl at yoooo! Oh wait you're petting me you're OK!
But you stopped! Howwwwwl!
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PasserbyeI am much older than you.in Beach CityRegistered Userregular
I knew there was a reason I didn't like being called Tony.
No, he's a cutie.
Rats are the best. I miss mine. I hope I never need to do research w/ them. They are much too social and sweet.
Mice are little bastards.
Yeah, I used to have two (they were from the same litter), but Alton died. Tony barely ate anything for about a week afterward and just hasn't been the same since. They're very affectionate and tend to form close bonds.
sometimes you get asked for ID when you open carry in philly- it is just a reality of the beast. elsewhere in the state, going unlicensed is fine (for open carrying), but in the big city you need a license. cool beans, that's fine. i am not trying to make an ACLU case out of being asked to furnish ID.
however i had a weapon pointed at me and i was set to prone. i was told unnecessarily that if i made a quick move (so far i had been absolutely compliant) i'd be shot twice in the head. i was disarmed and then finally my license was checked. i asked politely for the officer's name and badge #. i was refused and was told it'd be on the report. i asked for a copy of the report, i was refused.
this is exactly why i am into activism. this is such horseshit. every bystander within speaking distance was saying "that's fucked up, man, he wasn't hurtin' no one" "so what if he had a gun? man that shit is fucked up" "why you pointing a gun at that kid?" etc
i didn't lose any hearts or minds
but i will get to educate some people, and i will get the policy in philly publicized and maybe even shifted, however incrementally
i broke no law and i was subject to a felony stop; it was unjust and disproportionate
That's hilarious.
you're a classy guy, thanatosian
If you want to open carry without getting hassled, move to Jesustan.
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YamiNoSenshiA point called ZIn the complex planeRegistered Userregular
Reading the post again, not getting to orgasm? You should be calling the ACLU about that as well. Whenever I got pulled over the cop makes damn sure I get to orgasm. ITS THE LAW.
but in fairness i can't think of any real city that you can carry without getting hassled
maybe some of the western suburb-on-steriods cities you'd be okay
i don't mind getting hassled
i mind being told to lay down on the ground in the middle of a busy avenue at 1pm in broad daylight when i'm dressed business casual and looking at a game i just rented
sometimes you get asked for ID when you open carry in philly- it is just a reality of the beast. elsewhere in the state, going unlicensed is fine (for open carrying), but in the big city you need a license. cool beans, that's fine. i am not trying to make an ACLU case out of being asked to furnish ID.
however i had a weapon pointed at me and i was set to prone. i was told unnecessarily that if i made a quick move (so far i had been absolutely compliant) i'd be shot twice in the head. i was disarmed and then finally my license was checked. i asked politely for the officer's name and badge #. i was refused and was told it'd be on the report. i asked for a copy of the report, i was refused.
this is exactly why i am into activism. this is such horseshit. every bystander within speaking distance was saying "that's fucked up, man, he wasn't hurtin' no one" "so what if he had a gun? man that shit is fucked up" "why you pointing a gun at that kid?" etc
i didn't lose any hearts or minds
but i will get to educate some people, and i will get the policy in philly publicized and maybe even shifted, however incrementally
i broke no law and i was subject to a felony stop; it was unjust and disproportionate
That's hilarious.
you're a classy guy, thanatosian
If you want to open carry without getting hassled, move to Jesustan.
but in fairness i can't think of any real city that you can carry without getting hassled
maybe some of the western suburb-on-steriods cities you'd be okay
i don't mind getting hassled
i mind being told to lay down on the ground in the middle of a busy avenue at 1pm in broad daylight when i'm dressed business casual and looking at a game i just rented
I knew there was a reason I didn't like being called Tony.
No, he's a cutie.
Rats are the best. I miss mine. I hope I never need to do research w/ them. They are much too social and sweet.
Mice are little bastards.
Yeah, I used to have two (they were from the same litter), but Alton died. Tony barely ate anything for about a week afterward and just hasn't been the same since. They're very affectionate and tend to form close bonds.
Yeah, was the same with mine. Lost one, and the other followed about a week later. It could have been something that was catching, but I think it was just the stress of losing his best buddy.
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PasserbyeI am much older than you.in Beach CityRegistered Userregular
but in fairness i can't think of any real city that you can carry without getting hassled
maybe some of the western suburb-on-steriods cities you'd be okay
i don't mind getting hassled
i mind being told to lay down on the ground in the middle of a busy avenue at 1pm in broad daylight when i'm dressed business casual and looking at a game i just rented
if this were any amendment but the second, there wouldn't be contrary opinions- there wouldn't even be 'but really, what did you expect'
No, if it were the tenth you'd get a similar reaction.
Mostly because those are the two least-important amendments.
the ones you dislike, you mean
convenient
No, they're the least important.
There are important freedoms, and unimportant freedoms. According to the California constitution, residents in California have the protected right to recreationally fish; if that right got violated somehow, I wouldn't really give a shit. I mean, I like fishing and all, I don't really have a problem with it; it's just that I don't really see the right to fish as vital to having a free and functioning democracy.
Much like the right to walk around in a first-world city with a loaded gun out, or the right for states to treat unempowered groups like shit.
I knew there was a reason I didn't like being called Tony.
No, he's a cutie.
Rats are the best. I miss mine. I hope I never need to do research w/ them. They are much too social and sweet.
Mice are little bastards.
Yeah, I used to have two (they were from the same litter), but Alton died. Tony barely ate anything for about a week afterward and just hasn't been the same since. They're very affectionate and tend to form close bonds.
Yeah, was the same with mine. Lost one, and the other followed about a week later. It could have been something that was catching, but I think it was just the stress of losing his best buddy.
Pictures are adorable. Both of mine were hooded like Tony.
if this were any amendment but the second, there wouldn't be contrary opinions- there wouldn't even be 'but really, what did you expect'
No, if it were the tenth you'd get a similar reaction.
Mostly because those are the two least-important amendments.
the ones you dislike, you mean
convenient
No, they're the least important.
There are important freedoms, and unimportant freedoms. According to the California constitution, residents in California have the protected right to recreationally fish; if that right got violated somehow, I wouldn't really give a shit. I mean, I like fishing and all, I don't really have a problem with it; it's just that I don't really see the right to fish as vital to having a free and functioning democracy.
Much like the right to bear arms, or the right for states to treat unempowered groups like shit.
The police should probably go faceplant those guys fishing and confiscate their fish.
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but they're listening to every word I say
if this were any amendment but the second, there wouldn't be contrary opinions- there wouldn't even be 'but really, what did you expect'
No, if it were the tenth you'd get a similar reaction.
Mostly because those are the two least-important amendments.
the ones you dislike, you mean
convenient
No, they're the least important.
There are important freedoms, and unimportant freedoms. According to the California constitution, residents in California have the protected right to recreationally fish; if that right got violated somehow, I wouldn't really give a shit. I mean, I like fishing and all, I don't really have a problem with it; it's just that I don't really see the right to fish as vital to having a free and functioning democracy.
Much like the right to bear arms, or the right for states to treat unempowered groups like shit.
such horse shit
that's fine, than
you let cops stomp wherever they want, as long as where they're stomping- in violation of law, and in betrayal of the massive confidence and responsibility with which they are entrusted- isn't something that personally bothers you
real fucking great liberal, you are
no wonder this country hates you guys as much as the racists and homophobes
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YamiNoSenshiA point called ZIn the complex planeRegistered Userregular
but in fairness i can't think of any real city that you can carry without getting hassled
maybe some of the western suburb-on-steriods cities you'd be okay
i don't mind getting hassled
i mind being told to lay down on the ground in the middle of a busy avenue at 1pm in broad daylight when i'm dressed business casual and looking at a game i just rented
There are important freedoms, and unimportant freedoms. According to the California constitution, residents in California have the protected right to recreationally fish; if that right got violated somehow, I wouldn't really give a shit. I mean, I like fishing and all, I don't really have a problem with it; it's just that I don't really see the right to fish as vital to having a free and functioning democracy.
Much like the right to bear arms, or the right for states to treat unempowered groups like shit.
I have a similar reaction to the open carry law; I don't really care if people are denied the right to open carry.
But when somebody is told to get on the ground or else he'll be shot, when a cop acts like a dick when he's asked for a report, and when somebody's property is confiscated... all when no law was broken at all... that's all beyond the pale regardless of what I think of PA's open carry law.
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the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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PasserbyeI am much older than you.in Beach CityRegistered Userregular
Yeah, was the same with mine. Lost one, and the other followed about a week later. It could have been something that was catching, but I think it was just the stress of losing his best buddy.
Or a combination, yeah. Alton had liquid around his heart (I forget the exact term) so it wasn't mycoplasma. Had to feed Tony with an eye dropper for a little while, though. I changed out the entire cage and cleaned it to remove all the smells, so that seemed to help his mood.
amateurhourOne day I'll be professionalhourThe woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered Userregular
edited April 2010
quick copyright question:
Okay, so lets say that I intend to make money of of something down the road, but right now I don't, so there's no reason to start an LLC yet.
Lets say I've got a site called amateurhournews.com ( I don't)
So I've got that name registered, and I've checked around and there's no amateurhour LLC or anything like that in my state.
So at the bottom of my site I put in all of my copyright info and stuff. And in a couple years the site is making money, over $700 so I need to file taxes, and I decide to start amateurhour LLC.
How protected am I in the mean time.
I mean, Kurtz and the PA crew didn't start out with toonhound inc or PA inc right? They just started with "Copyright (Name) (C) 1998" , and when they started making money the formed the company?
I can give more specifics if needed. Just need to lay the groundwork right now.
There are important freedoms, and unimportant freedoms. According to the California constitution, residents in California have the protected right to recreationally fish; if that right got violated somehow, I wouldn't really give a shit. I mean, I like fishing and all, I don't really have a problem with it; it's just that I don't really see the right to fish as vital to having a free and functioning democracy.
Much like the right to bear arms, or the right for states to treat unempowered groups like shit.
I have a similar reaction to the open carry law; I don't really care if people are denied the right to open carry.
But when somebody is told to get on the ground or else he'll be shot, when a cop acts like a dick when he's asked for a report, and when somebody's property is confiscated... all when no law was broken at all... that's all beyond the pale regardless of what I think of PA's open carry law.
As usual Feral is aces with the posting
Chu- I don't like guns and gun laws (you know this) and I think that was fucked up.
There is getting hassled and then there is being harassed
Would it be too much to ask for David Cameron to fuck up badly?
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edited April 2010
]Yeah I am not making excuses for the cop. What he did by the sounds of it was illegal and dickheaded and completely fuilfils the stereotype of cops being giant powerhungry bullying cockbites.
And I understand that you feel like carrying a gun around is your right and that you shouldn't get hassled for it and it's unfair and so forth, but I'm just pointing out that you know that it invites trouble.
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edited April 2010
Sometimes I'm walking down the street, exercising my 8th amendment rights, and a group of cops perform a felony stop, rip off my pants, and pour hot wax on my crotch.
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Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
There are important freedoms, and unimportant freedoms. According to the California constitution, residents in California have the protected right to recreationally fish; if that right got violated somehow, I wouldn't really give a shit. I mean, I like fishing and all, I don't really have a problem with it; it's just that I don't really see the right to fish as vital to having a free and functioning democracy.
Much like the right to bear arms, or the right for states to treat unempowered groups like shit.
I have a similar reaction to the open carry law; I don't really care if people are denied the right to open carry.
But when somebody is told to get on the ground or else he'll be shot, when a cop acts like a dick when he's asked for a report, and when somebody's property is confiscated... all when no law was broken at all... that's all beyond the pale regardless of what I think of PA's open carry law.
Exactly. And I'm confused as hell as to Thanatos' reaction.
He's siding with cops that pointed a gun at someone, was told to lie prone, and was threatened with being shot twice in the head despite this someone not breaking any laws.
This seems like a completely bizarre thing for Thanatos to support regardless of how he feels about gun ownership/open carry.
Tos is comming out in favor of the cops? This is a red letter day.
The only thing he hates more than cops is [strike]Jews[/strike] gun owners.
And in a case where the cops were clearly breaking the law.
What the cops did was totally wrong, totally bullshit, fucked up, and exactly what you should expect walking around Philadelphia showing off your fucking gun.
On the scale of fucked-up shit cops do, though, it doesn't even rate a mention. If that was the most fucked-up thing those cops did that day, those are a couple of great cops.
]Yeah I am not making excuses for the cop. What he did by the sounds of it was illegal and dickheaded and completely fuilfils the stereotype of cops being giant powerhungry bullying cockbites.
And I understand that you feel like carrying a gun around is your right and that you shouldn't get hassled for it and it's unfair and so forth, but I'm just pointing out that you know that it invites trouble.
but in fairness i can't think of any real city that you can carry without getting hassled
maybe some of the western suburb-on-steriods cities you'd be okay
i don't mind getting hassled
i mind being told to lay down on the ground in the middle of a busy avenue at 1pm in broad daylight when i'm dressed business casual and looking at a game i just rented
What game did you rent?
bayonetta awwwww jyeah rude titties 8-)
Man now i know why the cop was really hassling you
he was trying to save you from making a terrible mistake
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firewaterwordSatchitanandaPais Vasco to San FranciscoRegistered Userregular
]And I understand that you feel like carrying a gun around is your right and that you shouldn't get hassled for it and it's unfair and so forth
it's not just how i feel, man
it's the law
but yes, i know i have a greater chance of this happening while open carrying... but i just don't find it productive or valuable to be told that i invited it. i do it partially because i am prepared to step up- and invest the time and energy into pursuing this stuff- if it ever happens, sure. but i don't 'invite' it and saying 'you can kind of expect' it feels perilously close to 'you had it coming'. i'm not a girl wearing a short skirt, here. i was wronged.
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you're a classy guy, thanatosian
I'mma howl at yoooo! Oh wait you're petting me you're OK!
But you stopped! Howwwwwl!
Yeah, I used to have two (they were from the same litter), but Alton died. Tony barely ate anything for about a week afterward and just hasn't been the same since. They're very affectionate and tend to form close bonds.
Baby pictures!
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Mostly because those are the two least-important amendments.
Mine too! (eventually)
the ones you dislike, you mean
convenient
What game did you rent?
no, thanks
but they're listening to every word I say
I don't know if I was imagining it or if everyone I spoke to was deliberately giving me attitude.
At one point I was tempted to tell a solicitor "Liability is firmly disputed because fuck you and your client."
bayonetta awwwww jyeah rude titties 8-)
Yeah, was the same with mine. Lost one, and the other followed about a week later. It could have been something that was catching, but I think it was just the stress of losing his best buddy.
The only thing he hates more than cops is [strike]Jews[/strike] gun owners.
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Hope its worth it brah! :^:
There are important freedoms, and unimportant freedoms. According to the California constitution, residents in California have the protected right to recreationally fish; if that right got violated somehow, I wouldn't really give a shit. I mean, I like fishing and all, I don't really have a problem with it; it's just that I don't really see the right to fish as vital to having a free and functioning democracy.
Much like the right to walk around in a first-world city with a loaded gun out, or the right for states to treat unempowered groups like shit.
And in a case where the cops were clearly breaking the law.
but they're listening to every word I say
Pictures are adorable. Both of mine were hooded like Tony.
The uberconservative white dude behind me was like "WE NEED THIS LAW EVERYWHERE! IMMIGRATION IS OUT OF CONTROL!"
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
It's time we make being illegal illegal!
The police should probably go faceplant those guys fishing and confiscate their fish.
but they're listening to every word I say
such horse shit
that's fine, than
you let cops stomp wherever they want, as long as where they're stomping- in violation of law, and in betrayal of the massive confidence and responsibility with which they are entrusted- isn't something that personally bothers you
real fucking great liberal, you are
no wonder this country hates you guys as much as the racists and homophobes
We have our priorities straight, no lie.
ugh
I have a similar reaction to the open carry law; I don't really care if people are denied the right to open carry.
But when somebody is told to get on the ground or else he'll be shot, when a cop acts like a dick when he's asked for a report, and when somebody's property is confiscated... all when no law was broken at all... that's all beyond the pale regardless of what I think of PA's open carry law.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Or a combination, yeah. Alton had liquid around his heart (I forget the exact term) so it wasn't mycoplasma. Had to feed Tony with an eye dropper for a little while, though. I changed out the entire cage and cleaned it to remove all the smells, so that seemed to help his mood.
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Okay, so lets say that I intend to make money of of something down the road, but right now I don't, so there's no reason to start an LLC yet.
Lets say I've got a site called amateurhournews.com ( I don't)
So I've got that name registered, and I've checked around and there's no amateurhour LLC or anything like that in my state.
So at the bottom of my site I put in all of my copyright info and stuff. And in a couple years the site is making money, over $700 so I need to file taxes, and I decide to start amateurhour LLC.
How protected am I in the mean time.
I mean, Kurtz and the PA crew didn't start out with toonhound inc or PA inc right? They just started with "Copyright (Name) (C) 1998" , and when they started making money the formed the company?
I can give more specifics if needed. Just need to lay the groundwork right now.
As usual Feral is aces with the posting
Chu- I don't like guns and gun laws (you know this) and I think that was fucked up.
There is getting hassled and then there is being harassed
Would it be too much to ask for David Cameron to fuck up badly?
And I understand that you feel like carrying a gun around is your right and that you shouldn't get hassled for it and it's unfair and so forth, but I'm just pointing out that you know that it invites trouble.
Exactly. And I'm confused as hell as to Thanatos' reaction.
He's siding with cops that pointed a gun at someone, was told to lie prone, and was threatened with being shot twice in the head despite this someone not breaking any laws.
This seems like a completely bizarre thing for Thanatos to support regardless of how he feels about gun ownership/open carry.
On the scale of fucked-up shit cops do, though, it doesn't even rate a mention. If that was the most fucked-up thing those cops did that day, those are a couple of great cops.
I love hooded ratties, though blue dumbos are also freakin' adorable.
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Like I said, there is being hassled
and then there is being harassed
Man now i know why the cop was really hassling you
he was trying to save you from making a terrible mistake
it's not just how i feel, man
it's the law
but yes, i know i have a greater chance of this happening while open carrying... but i just don't find it productive or valuable to be told that i invited it. i do it partially because i am prepared to step up- and invest the time and energy into pursuing this stuff- if it ever happens, sure. but i don't 'invite' it and saying 'you can kind of expect' it feels perilously close to 'you had it coming'. i'm not a girl wearing a short skirt, here. i was wronged.