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Veterans's Day
Thomamelas
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Rudyard Kipling wrote:And there was grass and the living trees,
And the flowers of the spring,
And there lay gentlemen from out of all the seas
That ever called him King.
'Twixt Nieuport sands and the eastward lands where the Four Red Rivers spring,
Five hundred thousand gentlemen of those that served their King.
On the 11th hour, of the 11th day, of the 11th month of the year 1918, Armistice was declared, ending the war between the Allies and the Central Powers, the Great War, the World War, and the War to End All Wars. Almost 10 million soldiers were lost in the war on both sides, over 21 million were wounded, and over 7 million were unaccounted for. In the United States, Woodrow Wilson proclaimed Armistice Day to be a holiday. Under President Eisenhower it became a day to remember all of those who have served in the American Armed forces.
Woodrow Wilson wrote:To us in America, the reflections of Armistice Day will be filled with lots of pride in the heroism of those who died in the country's service and with gratitude for the victory, both because of the thing from which it has freed us and because of the opportunity it has given America to show her sympathy with peace and justice in the councils of the nations.
In 1919 King George V declared the day Remembrance day. Later it would be broken up to Armistice day and Remembrance Sunday. It remains a holiday in France, and in Belgium it is the Day of Peace in the Flanders Fields.
John McCrae wrote: »In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
On this day we remember the many who have given their lives in service to their countries. Given the solemn nature of the day, it is my hope that political debates about the merits of war, or the military can be respectfully kept out of this thread.
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I Myself am a 10 year US Army vet who served in the first Gulf War along with serving in Somalia.
Lets all thanks a Vet today for helping with our freedom.
I did want to go to the university's Soldier Tower ceremony this morning, but it's smack in the middle of a class I have and they don't give Remembrance Day abstentions (though, from where I'll be on campus, I'll be surprised if I don't hear the ceremony through the windows).
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Not to nit pick, but that is Memorial day. Veterans day is for all who served.
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Outside the US, Nov. 11th is remembrance day.
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I'm re-reading John Keegan's history of WWI as well as the book Paris 1919. I'm struck by just how much of a defining event WWI was for Europe. It signalled the end of the era that started in 1815, that was characterized by relative peace and massive scientific and economic success.
Once the remaining surviving soldiers die, WWI will enter history like the American Civil War or Napoleanic Wars- a conflict that only exists in the history books
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Which is a pity, both for the service those people offered their countries, and as the lessons society can draw from it are rather more useful than the black and white morality of the Second World War.
Especially when we're apparently returning to a multipolar world with incredably ardent nationalists at the controls of most of the new Great Powers.
The last veteran to see combat, Harry Patch, died a couple years back. There is a Radiohead song about him.
Oh god those are always awful crowded.
So noted.
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I always watch this movie on Veteran's day.
This scene always gets me.
Happy Veteran's day.
In NZ at least Armistice / Remembrance Day has long been supplanted by ANZAC Day. It really is just a day marked by government/military and veteran organisations now. ANZAC day is where the public gets involved and has some time off.
I don't think the death of the veterans will change the way the Day is commemorated in NZ though, as is not about the Veterans so much and apparently has not been for some decades (since the 80s). The day is not for the veterans of those wars anymore, nor for current servicemen or women. It is to remember the sacrifice generally and to act as a day of national unity. Or at least that is how it seems to me.
The focus on current veterans or the like that the US has is far more explicit but that makes sense, given how large the US military is and that many people will know or be related to people serving. It is personal for many people. In NZ (and from what I've seen in the UK so far), well, it isn't quite like that. I for example have no close or distant relatives in the military, nor have any close friends who are or were and I grew up in the country on a farm and have lived in a couple of different cities, including the capital. It just isn't a personal matter for us I would think in the same way as it is for an American.
Lest we forget.
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Thanks for the heads up
thank you for doing the best that you could and beyond, to allow me to continue to have the freedom to complain about my country's government. thank you for doing the best that you could, so that I can choose between vanilla and chocolate. Thank you for doing the best that you could, so that I can post on these boards and be fortunate enough to call you my friends.
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He completed his training as a radar operator and was assigned to a wooden hulled mine sweeper. He crossed the Pacific with it and managed to abandon ship when a Kamikaze pilot impacted it as soon as it arrived in Theater.
During his recovery, the war ended.
My father was in the Army reserve as a medic during Vietnam.
I have two uncles who were in the Air Force.
I have a sister who was Marine corp.
I have a brother who is shortly to exit the Air Force.
I was Army.
This is our day, and all of us who made it back home think on this day with the weight of the years and of shared experience. Such a heavy day. So lucky, that we all came home alive.
Regardless of your views on the politics behind this action or that action, remember that those who serve don't make the policy, and that they all served because they thought it would make the world, even if only a small part of it, a better place.
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Harold later told me he had fought in the battle of the bulge as a Lieutenant, where he was awarded the Silver star for gallantry and the Purple heart for being wounded by an artillery attack. After I lost my job at Starbucks, I never saw Harold again. I'll never forget the look in his eyes and the gratitude he expressed from that one simple gesture.
Please, if you know someone who served, thank them. I wish either of my grandfathers had lived long enough for me to ask about their service in WW2.
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The dude I buy comics from crewed a flamethrower tank in Vietnam. He is one of the more interesting people I've ever met.
We're the last generation to remember the people who fought in that war and I propose, if you've got a story about a relative or family friend who served in that war - share it, so we can add it to the oral history of all our families "well, that was the story of your Great Uncle Bill. But I have a friend who's grandparents also served and this is theirs.."
It's how these things keep meaning.
Oh and being DIW a couple of times on my second boat. THAT was fun...
Sept 13 - Confined to barracks for one week for being drunk on the parade grounds.
Then a couple of weeks later you saw another entry:
Sept 25 - Confined to barracks for one week for being drunk on the parade grounds.
This guy certainly liked to drink. But the next two entries were the icing on the cake.
Oct 15 - Confined to barracks for one week for being drunk on the parade grounds.
Oct 16 - Confined to barracks for two weeks for being drunk in the barracks.
Now that, that is dedication. That was the most memorable thing I got out of that class and I feel good knowing that though this person is long gone and mostly forgotten that I'll carry some part of his life with me until my brains are too old and addled to even recall my own memories.
That's awesome Deus.
My Great-Uncle was a forward artillery spotter for the Royal Canadian Horse Artillery in WWII, served in Italy, Africa and the Netherlands. He had no kids, so I have the brass end of a 1942 shell casing on my desk from him, and his combat-knife
Grandpa got rejected from service due to bad eye-sight.
It was an honor to serve.