They'll keep some humans around...as pets. "Hey batarians remember how the new kid kicked your ass and then everyone at Space High sided against you? Wouldn't it be awesome if we killed all those people and left the new kid at your mercy? Fist poooouuundd!"
Murdered by Cerberus or enslaved by batarians. You decide.
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Ninja Snarl PMy helmet is my burden.Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered Userregular
edited November 2010
Considering the Reapers are immortal and apparently have little need for gathering resources, they could honestly be sitting just outside the edge of the galaxy and their grand plans for big entrances were just the fastest ways to get back into the galaxy. They could quite easily just accelerate for a long while to get up to near-lightspeed and, cruise for a couple of years, and then build a new mass relay when they arrive and invade the galaxy.
It's not like they would have to wait very far away outside the galaxy. It would be essentially impossible to find celestial bodies even the size of stars if they don't radiate any heat; the only reason we can see stuff like that inside our own galaxy is because of how big objects affect other objects. The Reapers are far smaller than planets, so the races of the galaxy could quite possibly look for one million actual years out there and never actually find the Reapers.
Not to mention that the Reapers have been doing this for millions of years so they could easily have thousands upon thousands of backup plans. Even if this has only been going on for, say, one million years, they would only have to create and implement one new backup plan every one hundred thousand years to still be way ahead of the backup-plan curve here. For all we know, they could just be humoring the galaxy by not flipping a galactic kill switch in the DNA and programming of everybody out there and snuffing everybody out all at once. Personally, I'd get pretty bored floating around in deep space for millions of years at a stretch and would probably be positively ecstatic over the chance to incinerate sentient life with my enormous kill beams instead of just hitting the "off" switch on everybody.
With all of their known agents within the galaxy dead, reprogrammed, or scattered
We could have said the same at the end of ME1 with what we knew, though. While they probably don't have another puppet race at hand, they can communicate from waaaaay the fuck out there, so they could seduce someone to their cause. Hopefully they'll convince the batarians to use the leviathan to open a wormhole or reconfigure a relay or something.
We can rid the galaxy of its two greatest cancers in one fell swoop.
If the Shadow Broker's resources are half what they're hyped up to be, no puppet race or Reaper influenced group will get much of anything done before Shepard ruins their shit.
Damn, Sounds, you're...harsh. Though better to be High School harsh than Cerberus incompetent.
That is the ultimate irony, though? Cerberus loved killing and torturing humans so much--the only thing they were good at--and were so violent and stupid in regards to everything else in the universe, they were the Reaperers.
It's all summed up in a 3-minute-long pre-rendered cinematic for anyone who imports a save where Shepard died after giving the yoomanity's numero uno yooman-abductor the numero uno yooman-abduction apparatus. Then the game ends.
So you have to try really, really hard to screw up, or just be an amazing screw up.
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edited November 2010
Only 50%(who've been recorded) of people fully upgrade the Normandy...I wonder is the Dermal thing counted in that?
Though at the same time it says 14 percent of squad member die on average.
100/12 is around ~8
and for people without 1 or 2 DLC characters that would end up giving us 8-10(7-9 if you count Shepard).
So that means on average people lose 1-2 characters during the final mission.
Put that in with the 50 percent don't fully upgrade and it makes sense.
A little fluffy kitten reaper.
Coming for your yarn.
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We have to appeal to our costumers when we lay genocide on them!
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edited November 2010
I think the med bay is a ship upgrade and given how terrible scanning was (pre-DLC) and that it cost a mint I can easily see people not bothering with it. Also the scars are awesome.
They'll keep some humans around...as pets. "Hey batarians remember how the new kid kicked your ass and then everyone at Space High sided against you? Wouldn't it be awesome if we killed all those people and left the new kid at your mercy? Fist poooouuundd!"
Murdered by Cerberus or enslaved by batarians. You decide.
Man, if only Shepard had vast amounts of experience murdering the shit out of either of those groups.
Oh, drat.
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Freedom is the right to say that two plus two equals four, if that is granted, all else follows.- George Orwell
I'm Karl Shepard, and i'll make them all my bitches like i did with Sovereign.
I can say this because if all things go to plan, i'll have a fleet of rachni and geth to help me. Maybe the Quarians too if they can get their shit together.
I'm Karl Shepard, and i'll make them all my bitches like i did with Sovereign.
I can say this because if all things go to plan, i'll have a fleet of rachni and geth to help me. Maybe the Quarians too if they can get their shit together.
By "get their shit together" you obviously mean "stop dicking around and clone an army of Kal'Reegars", right?
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i have a feeling the council "officially" doesn't believe the reapers exist
but you can bet unofficially they know that when they find scraps more advanced than prothean tech they aren't dealing with "saren-ized" geth stuff
You mean the council doesn't want to confirm the story of the guy running around going 'you're all going to die, die to something you have no real way of countering!'
i have a feeling the council "officially" doesn't believe the reapers exist
but you can bet unofficially they know that when they find scraps more advanced than prothean tech they aren't dealing with "saren-ized" geth stuff
You mean the council doesn't want to confirm the story of the guy running around going 'you're all going to die, die to something you have no real way of countering!'
the only way to counter someone with a massive +12 charisma stat is with equally-massive denial
shep: "YOU GOTTA BELIEVE ME THE REAPERS ARE COMING"
council: "LA LA LA LA LA LA WE CAN'T HEAR YOU LA LA LA LA"
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Although, wouldn't it be cool if the Council really was just holding back on a plan of action, and didn't tell you because they didn't trust telling you about it while you were in Cerberus? Then you tell TIM to suck it at the end of 2, and they help you formulate the battle plan for the reaper invasion?
That would be nice.
That won't happen.
What really happens, though? You're branded a traitor by the Council AND Cerberus, and have to do everthing your damn self, with minor help from the new Shadow Broker and Rachni, until you stumble upon the McGuffin of Reaper Domination, a magical plot device that kills all reapers forever, always.
If someone creates a miracle foolproof medicine that is a cure for the common cold, cancer and loneliness but it has the minor side effects of explosive diarrhea, uncontrollable bleeding from the eyes and murder-fugues, that's not a total 'resounding' success.
Although, wouldn't it be cool if the Council really was just holding back on a plan of action, and didn't tell you because they didn't trust telling you about it while you were in Cerberus? Then you tell TIM to suck it at the end of 2, and they help you formulate the battle plan for the reaper invasion?
That would be nice.
That won't happen.
What really happens, though? You're branded a traitor by the Council AND Cerberus, and have to do everthing your damn self, with minor help from the new Shadow Broker and Rachni, until you stumble upon the McGuffin of Reaper Domination, a magical plot device that kills all reapers forever, always.
sounds like stargate sg-1 and that anti-orii thingy.
Although, wouldn't it be cool if the Council really was just holding back on a plan of action, and didn't tell you because they didn't trust telling you about it while you were in Cerberus? Then you tell TIM to suck it at the end of 2, and they help you formulate the battle plan for the reaper invasion?
That would be nice.
That won't happen.
What really happens, though? You're branded a traitor by the Council AND Cerberus, and have to do everthing your damn self, with minor help from the new Shadow Broker and Rachni, until you stumble upon the McGuffin of Reaper Domination, a magical plot device that kills all reapers forever, always.
I'm crossing my fingers so hard for that to be the case, because it makes so much more sense then an incompetent council.
All the reapers turn up and he just goes "Ah yes, 'Reapers'" (unleash the armada of specially equipped and trained fleet, designed to kill reapers or such)
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I'm sure your kind thought Scott Pilgrim would be an incredible box office smash too. :P
Vanilla sells, believe it or not.
Man... it was a joke. People can play what they want. I don't care if your naked male Shepard soldier rides his elcor love slave into battle. Whatever floats your boat dude.
I blew up the Collector's base... it was probably the hardest decision I've had yet to make.
I based my decision on the indoctrination problem. How many facilities has Cerberus lost to indoctrination now? If a dead reaper can indoctrinate everyone inside it, what the fuck is going to happen in a space station that creates reapers? My biggest concern is that TIM might be in league with the Reapers. I just can't trust that man. I told him to go fuck himself at every opportunity I had.
I'm still on the fence about it. I'll probably do another playthrough with all the DLC on newgame plus sometime soon and choose the other option. I have a feeling that keeping the base will result in a more interesting (fun) scenario in the third game than blowing it up.
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I want so much for the "Council is secretly competent" to be true
but remember that even when Shepard was a spectre, they just sent her to hunt geth in uninhabited space. As the person with the most reaper experience, she should have been gathering resources for an anti-reaper gun or something.
I want so much for the "Council is secretly competent" to be true
but remember that even when Shepard was a spectre, they just sent her to hunt geth in uninhabited space. As the person with the most reaper experience, she should have been gathering resources for an anti-reaper gun or something.
Sheperd is galaxy famous, making that a bit of risk, if Shep got spotted it'd alert the reapers.
Way to be a covert operative their mang, and at the end of the day if they need stuff blowing up and pithy one liners they could just get a whole team of soldiers. They need to be seen to not believe Sheperd in any way.
Hackett just didn't retrieve the rest of the tags because he wanted to have an excuse to talk to Shepard, like leaving your hat at someone's house. He even got Shepard's own tags but couldn't think of a cool-as-ice way to non-chalantly hand them off like it ain't no thang, so he passed them through a proxy.
Broest of bros.
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Hackett just didn't retrieve the rest of the tags because he wanted to have an excuse to talk to Shepard, like leaving your hat at someone's house. He even got Shepard's own tags but couldn't think of a cool-as-ice way to non-chalantly hand them off like it ain't no thang, so he passed them through a proxy.
Hackett just didn't retrieve the rest of the tags because he wanted to have an excuse to talk to Shepard, like leaving your hat at someone's house. He even got Shepard's own tags but couldn't think of a cool-as-ice way to non-chalantly hand them off like it ain't no thang, so he passed them through a proxy.
This is a day or two old, and some of the statistics are ones we've seen before, but there are a few new nuggets of player behavior data that I found interesting.
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Reaper tech a go-go!
The Batarians will. Or they won't, I suppose, depending on that whole issue of slavery.
Murdered by Cerberus or enslaved by batarians. You decide.
It's not like they would have to wait very far away outside the galaxy. It would be essentially impossible to find celestial bodies even the size of stars if they don't radiate any heat; the only reason we can see stuff like that inside our own galaxy is because of how big objects affect other objects. The Reapers are far smaller than planets, so the races of the galaxy could quite possibly look for one million actual years out there and never actually find the Reapers.
Not to mention that the Reapers have been doing this for millions of years so they could easily have thousands upon thousands of backup plans. Even if this has only been going on for, say, one million years, they would only have to create and implement one new backup plan every one hundred thousand years to still be way ahead of the backup-plan curve here. For all we know, they could just be humoring the galaxy by not flipping a galactic kill switch in the DNA and programming of everybody out there and snuffing everybody out all at once. Personally, I'd get pretty bored floating around in deep space for millions of years at a stretch and would probably be positively ecstatic over the chance to incinerate sentient life with my enormous kill beams instead of just hitting the "off" switch on everybody.
If the Shadow Broker's resources are half what they're hyped up to be, no puppet race or Reaper influenced group will get much of anything done before Shepard ruins their shit.
That is the ultimate irony, though? Cerberus loved killing and torturing humans so much--the only thing they were good at--and were so violent and stupid in regards to everything else in the universe, they were the Reaperers.
It's all summed up in a 3-minute-long pre-rendered cinematic for anyone who imports a save where Shepard died after giving the yoomanity's numero uno yooman-abductor the numero uno yooman-abduction apparatus. Then the game ends.
So you have to try really, really hard to screw up, or just be an amazing screw up.
Though at the same time it says 14 percent of squad member die on average.
100/12 is around ~8
and for people without 1 or 2 DLC characters that would end up giving us 8-10(7-9 if you count Shepard).
So that means on average people lose 1-2 characters during the final mission.
Put that in with the 50 percent don't fully upgrade and it makes sense.
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We have to appeal to our costumers when we lay genocide on them!
God dammit.
but you can bet unofficially they know that when they find scraps more advanced than prothean tech they aren't dealing with "saren-ized" geth stuff
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Man, if only Shepard had vast amounts of experience murdering the shit out of either of those groups.
Oh, drat.
I'm Karl Shepard, and i'll make them all my bitches like i did with Sovereign.
I can say this because if all things go to plan, i'll have a fleet of rachni and geth to help me. Maybe the Quarians too if they can get their shit together.
By "get their shit together" you obviously mean "stop dicking around and clone an army of Kal'Reegars", right?
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You mean the council doesn't want to confirm the story of the guy running around going 'you're all going to die, die to something you have no real way of countering!'
http://masseffect.g33kwatch.com/?page_id=42
the only way to counter someone with a massive +12 charisma stat is with equally-massive denial
shep: "YOU GOTTA BELIEVE ME THE REAPERS ARE COMING"
council: "LA LA LA LA LA LA WE CAN'T HEAR YOU LA LA LA LA"
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That would be nice.
That won't happen.
What really happens, though? You're branded a traitor by the Council AND Cerberus, and have to do everthing your damn self, with minor help from the new Shadow Broker and Rachni, until you stumble upon the McGuffin of Reaper Domination, a magical plot device that kills all reapers forever, always.
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sounds like stargate sg-1 and that anti-orii thingy.
I'm crossing my fingers so hard for that to be the case, because it makes so much more sense then an incompetent council.
All the reapers turn up and he just goes "Ah yes, 'Reapers'" (unleash the armada of specially equipped and trained fleet, designed to kill reapers or such)
Man... it was a joke. People can play what they want. I don't care if your naked male Shepard soldier rides his elcor love slave into battle. Whatever floats your boat dude.
I based my decision on the indoctrination problem. How many facilities has Cerberus lost to indoctrination now? If a dead reaper can indoctrinate everyone inside it, what the fuck is going to happen in a space station that creates reapers? My biggest concern is that TIM might be in league with the Reapers. I just can't trust that man. I told him to go fuck himself at every opportunity I had.
I'm still on the fence about it. I'll probably do another playthrough with all the DLC on newgame plus sometime soon and choose the other option. I have a feeling that keeping the base will result in a more interesting (fun) scenario in the third game than blowing it up.
But my soul still cries out in agony when I think about it.
Yeah... when I have a choice between Space Wizard and Dude with Gun, I'm going to pick Space Wizard. Silly people.
but remember that even when Shepard was a spectre, they just sent her to hunt geth in uninhabited space. As the person with the most reaper experience, she should have been gathering resources for an anti-reaper gun or something.
Sheperd is galaxy famous, making that a bit of risk, if Shep got spotted it'd alert the reapers.
Way to be a covert operative their mang, and at the end of the day if they need stuff blowing up and pithy one liners they could just get a whole team of soldiers. They need to be seen to not believe Sheperd in any way.
(I bet you'll get your wish though)
and got killed
and they didn't even clean it up for 2 years
then after her resurrection the Alliance made her collect the dog tags
Broest of bros.
You make him sound like a clingy boyfriend
I think for him he is.
Mass Effect is LOVE
36% of people chose the Cerberus ending.
interestingly, this only applies to male shepards for me
female shepards I customise the hell out of
It's because we're so used to hearing Jennifer Hale's voice everywhere.
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