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I need a quick game recommendation. My boss, who just got a 360, came to me this morning and asked me for a recommendation on a 360 RPG. I can't overemphasize how unexpected this is...he does not come off at all as the type of person I would have expected this to come from.
I believe his exact words were something like "you know, something with wizards and swords and magic...fantasy...dungeons and dragons type shit." I asked if there was any game he had played in the past that he liked as a guide and he said the last system he had was NES and he liked playing Final Fantasy on that.
This is a guy who has a hard time with Halo in terms of speed of control needed to play, so I'm thinking something that works at a slow pace. The only game on 360 I can think of is Lost Odyssey; does anyone have any other ideas or should i go with that? I am trying to lean toward more menu driven as opposed to an action RPG like Oblivion just because the requirements for controller aptitude would be less.
Also I should add this is in fact for him, not for a kid or something.
It's relatively slower-paced, but there is no menu-driven turn-based western-fantasy-style RPG - outside of perhaps indie games on XBLA. Just tell him to play it on easy or, at best, normal. Its combat system is great on the PC where you can essentially turn it into a turn-based game - on the consoles you have to manually freeze combat and choose actions for your characters - but it's the closest thing that fits the bill.
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LibrarianThe face of liberal fascismRegistered Userregular
edited December 2010
Well if he hasn't played anything like that for a gazillion years(NES) why not just simply suggest Final Fantasy XIII? Sure it's a RPG on rails, but it might be a good introduction if he has not played any RPGs since the late 80s.
I think both Dragon Age and ME might be a bit overwhelming to a complete novice gamer.
FXIII gets really fast-paced. It may end up being a bit much. Edit: but I suppose the overall interface is much more streamlined. Yeah, not a bad recommend.
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LibrarianThe face of liberal fascismRegistered Userregular
edited December 2010
Fable II then, should be budget by now, has simple gameplay and it is a bit of a generic fantasy world with dungeons and wizards and stuff like that.
Dragon age is a good call, I played it on PC so hadn't thought of that on 360. The problem w/ Final Fantasy XIII is in my experience it got very fast paced and complex by the end, I'm just having a hard time picturing him with that due to the complexity of the systems as you get up in levels.
He might not get the humor but Breath of Death VII is pretty much the only turn based RPG I can think of on the 360.
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edited December 2010
Breath of Death VII and Epic Dungeon can waste a few hours each. $1 in indie games, Dragon Warrior III with better combat/humor and Nethack/Rogue with graphics.
Dragon Age is totally the best bet. Arx Fatalis on the original XBOX would be a good one if it'll play on 360.
Lost Odyssey isn't quite playing to the requested 'swords and sorcery' kind of cliche, though. It's right there under the surface, but if he's looking for those trappings FFXIII and Lost Odyssey will miss the mark. Sadly the turn based RPG combat engine is basically dead, so there aren't really good 360 recommendations there with that specific setting that I know of.
How set is he on turn based with a sword and socery kind of setting? Dragon Age might due aside from the fact that I didn't like the game at all. Mass Effect is a far better example of that type if he can dig the space setting, IMO.
Blue Dragon is an old style turn based swords and magic rpg, I liked it a lot personally, but some people dont like the art style or the awesome 80's rock music.
I'll second Fable II, it sounds like he might be looking for the fantasy genre/setting and not the hardcore RPG elements, which sounds like Fable.
Although, it doesn't fit the "menu-driven" critera. In fact, Fable III removed most menus altogether...but, perhaps worth looking into. A couple weeks ago the entire game was free to download, it's a shame you missed that!
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Blue Dragon is an old style turn based swords and magic rpg, I liked it a lot personally, but some people dont like the art style or the awesome 80's rock music.
do not get him this game
this game is the worst rpg i've ever played ever
it is so bad
get him lost odyssey, the actually good mistwalker offering
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Blue Dragon is an old style turn based swords and magic rpg, I liked it a lot personally, but some people dont like the art style or the awesome 80's rock music.
do not get him this game
this game is the worst rpg i've ever played ever
it is so bad
get him lost odyssey, the actually good mistwalker offering
Yes, I x1000000 endorse what Rent said. Don't get Blue Dragon or Eternal Sonata, it's the most boring grind.
I heard good things about the last Tales game, but I can't remember the title off the top of my head.
I'll second Fable II, it sounds like he might be looking for the fantasy genre/setting and not the hardcore RPG elements, which sounds like Fable.
Although, it doesn't fit the "menu-driven" critera. In fact, Fable III removed most menus altogether...but, perhaps worth looking into. A couple weeks ago the entire game was free to download, it's a shame you missed that!
Doesn't Fable 2 have the whole episodic thing where you can try out part of it for free?
Unfortunately, Arx Fatalis is not compatible. with the 360.
Blue Dragon is an old style turn based swords and magic rpg, I liked it a lot personally, but some people dont like the art style or the awesome 80's rock music.
do not get him this game
this game is the worst rpg i've ever played ever
it is so bad
get him lost odyssey, the actually good mistwalker offering
Yes, I x1000000 endorse what Rent said. Don't get Blue Dragon or Eternal Sonata, it's the most boring grind.
I heard good things about the last Tales game, but I can't remember the title off the top of my head.
I think some people liked Star Ocean IV too.
How was Eternal Sonata a grind? That usually means you're sludging out levels all the time just to proceed - in ES you're borderline unkillable it's so easy. I guess that kind of makes it FEEL like a boring grind since there's no sense of development, but it's nto like you're out there for 30 hours grinding levels off slimes.
I really wish the combat in that game had been challenging. I really liked everything else about it, but being able to sleepwalk through it because the enemies were weak as hell completely killed the game.
Blue Dragon is a great game, lots of fun unless you need your games to be super grimdark srs biznizz all the time.
But, it's not what he's looking for in terms of "swords and sorcery" so skip it anyway. Lost Odyssey is a good choice. Maybe The Last Remnant, too, but that can get really complicated.
I heard good things about the last Tales game, but I can't remember the title off the top of my head.
Tales of Vesperia is a great game and I love it, but I would hesitate to recommend it in this case.
On one hand, while it doesn't explicitly have dragons (that I remember) there are lots of huge fantasy creatures that fit the bill nicely. And the setting is very fantasy-esque. And there are swords/lances/bows/hammers/dogs/spells being used abundantly.
On the other hand, the combat is rather fast-paced (excellent combat system for what its worth and very fun, but not what we are looking for right now), and the entire game has been essentially deep fried in "anime". And I am not getting a very anime-oriented vibe from this guy.
Something about Blue Dragon turned me off, I thought the demo was terrible. And with that in mind, you could always suggest he use the Market Place to try out demos.
I enjoyed Enchanted Arms, once I figured out what was going on. I somehow didn't understand upgrading weapons until the later half of the game, but I was having so much fun using the Golems anyways I didn't really notice until I wanted a more 'proper' character party. The combat isn't the classic sort, but it felt good having a change of pace.
It's possible the game could be found for cheap now, also found cheap might be Tales of Vesperia. I've heard good things about it, and hope to add it to my collection at some point.
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Thanks for all the feedback...I ended up recommending Dragon Age to him w/ a note that Lost Odyssey is probably as close as he's going to get to what I think he remembers as an RPG (which if I'm guessing right is Final Fantasy on the NES), but that Dragon Age is the way to go.
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I just picked up Dragon Age: Ultimate Edition on clearance from Target (amazing value), but I don't think it's the best choice for someone who's been out of the RPG world for so long. I'm still learning how to navigate the pull-up menus after several hours of play.
I actually think Costume Quest would be a good way to get back into the genre. It's turn based with QTE-based attack and defense, and the difficulty is pretty low overall but still makes for enjoyable play. It is an Arcade game, but I assume that isn't an issue.
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It's relatively slower-paced, but there is no menu-driven turn-based western-fantasy-style RPG - outside of perhaps indie games on XBLA. Just tell him to play it on easy or, at best, normal. Its combat system is great on the PC where you can essentially turn it into a turn-based game - on the consoles you have to manually freeze combat and choose actions for your characters - but it's the closest thing that fits the bill.
I think both Dragon Age and ME might be a bit overwhelming to a complete novice gamer.
Or Dragon Age, but Mass Effect 2 is the best gamer out there. Ever. For all time (until Mass Effect 3).
Dragon Age is totally the best bet. Arx Fatalis on the original XBOX would be a good one if it'll play on 360.
How set is he on turn based with a sword and socery kind of setting? Dragon Age might due aside from the fact that I didn't like the game at all. Mass Effect is a far better example of that type if he can dig the space setting, IMO.
Dragon Age is a great recommendation, hard to go astray and a fun story.
And it practically IS a Final Fantasy game. So if he really likes FF, then maybe that'll work.
Though FF13 isn't really anything like an FF outside of FFX.
The only problem he may have with Lost Odyssey is it's weird difficulty curves and it's restrictions on power leveling.
Dragon Age is a good recommendation. Risen, Gothic 4, Draconis, are decent followups. Can probably get them cheap as well.
Although, it doesn't fit the "menu-driven" critera. In fact, Fable III removed most menus altogether...but, perhaps worth looking into. A couple weeks ago the entire game was free to download, it's a shame you missed that!
do not get him this game
this game is the worst rpg i've ever played ever
it is so bad
get him lost odyssey, the actually good mistwalker offering
Yes, I x1000000 endorse what Rent said. Don't get Blue Dragon or Eternal Sonata, it's the most boring grind.
I heard good things about the last Tales game, but I can't remember the title off the top of my head.
I think some people liked Star Ocean IV too.
Doesn't Fable 2 have the whole episodic thing where you can try out part of it for free?
Unfortunately, Arx Fatalis is not compatible. with the 360.
How was Eternal Sonata a grind? That usually means you're sludging out levels all the time just to proceed - in ES you're borderline unkillable it's so easy. I guess that kind of makes it FEEL like a boring grind since there's no sense of development, but it's nto like you're out there for 30 hours grinding levels off slimes.
I really wish the combat in that game had been challenging. I really liked everything else about it, but being able to sleepwalk through it because the enemies were weak as hell completely killed the game.
But, it's not what he's looking for in terms of "swords and sorcery" so skip it anyway. Lost Odyssey is a good choice. Maybe The Last Remnant, too, but that can get really complicated.
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Tales of Vesperia is a great game and I love it, but I would hesitate to recommend it in this case.
On one hand, while it doesn't explicitly have dragons (that I remember) there are lots of huge fantasy creatures that fit the bill nicely. And the setting is very fantasy-esque. And there are swords/lances/bows/hammers/dogs/spells being used abundantly.
On the other hand, the combat is rather fast-paced (excellent combat system for what its worth and very fun, but not what we are looking for right now), and the entire game has been essentially deep fried in "anime". And I am not getting a very anime-oriented vibe from this guy.
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I enjoyed Enchanted Arms, once I figured out what was going on. I somehow didn't understand upgrading weapons until the later half of the game, but I was having so much fun using the Golems anyways I didn't really notice until I wanted a more 'proper' character party. The combat isn't the classic sort, but it felt good having a change of pace.
It's possible the game could be found for cheap now, also found cheap might be Tales of Vesperia. I've heard good things about it, and hope to add it to my collection at some point.
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It's ridiculously fun, has an amazing combat system and great characters.
LOL to Record of Agarest War...
Record of the Agarest War was marketed as being... uh... FFT with sexy and a dating game grafted onto it. Well, it wasn't. It was just FFT, no sexy.
I watched my roommate play it off and on. There was like one girl whose picture had super cleavage, but that's about it.
I actually think Costume Quest would be a good way to get back into the genre. It's turn based with QTE-based attack and defense, and the difficulty is pretty low overall but still makes for enjoyable play. It is an Arcade game, but I assume that isn't an issue.
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