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    CadeCade Eppur si muove.Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Cade wrote: »
    About the Juiced vid, that was indeed a viral video. It wasn't ever intended to be on TV or otherwise, they knew with how it was and the fact there was a naked woman involved it would get results, it was like feeding candy to a baby in getting attention. Pretty sure the game didn't actually do much at all sales wise but people never forget the game or the ad itself especially, just look at the attention it's still getting.

    The old adage of "any attention is good attention" is not true. They have screwed themselves of ever getting a Juiced sale from me ever again. I will never touch that series, new, used, pirated or otherwise.

    True enough not all attention is good.

    Considering the game didn't do anything much sales wise out of the gate and pretty sure we never got a sequel I'm sure most people here can be happy with that if nothing else.

    Just deserts or karma maybe?

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Hard to say that the game's lack of success can definitely be attributed to that one ad, though it probably didn't help. The problem is that often "any attention = good attention" does work b/c lowest common denominator bullshit advertising appeals to a wide audience.

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    NocrenNocren Lt Futz, Back in Action North CarolinaRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Jucied did get a sequel though. (Jucied 2: Hot Import Nights) but I think the company was trying to drum up some interest in the game given that it went through publisher hell and was stuck in limbo for about a year.
    Doesn't excuse their action though.

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    agentk13agentk13 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2010
    Cade wrote: »
    Cade wrote: »
    About the Juiced vid, that was indeed a viral video. It wasn't ever intended to be on TV or otherwise, they knew with how it was and the fact there was a naked woman involved it would get results, it was like feeding candy to a baby in getting attention. Pretty sure the game didn't actually do much at all sales wise but people never forget the game or the ad itself especially, just look at the attention it's still getting.

    The old adage of "any attention is good attention" is not true. They have screwed themselves of ever getting a Juiced sale from me ever again. I will never touch that series, new, used, pirated or otherwise.

    True enough not all attention is good.

    Considering the game didn't do anything much sales wise out of the gate and pretty sure we never got a sequel I'm sure most people here can be happy with that if nothing else.

    Just deserts or karma maybe?

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    SkyGheNeSkyGheNe Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Hard to say that the game's lack of success can definitely be attributed to that one ad, though it probably didn't help. The problem is that often "any attention = good attention" does work b/c lowest common denominator bullshit advertising appeals to a wide audience.

    No - there definitely is a limitation to the any attention = good attention mantra. "Lowest common denominator bullshit" usually works for entertainment television. LCD commercials on the other hand are memorable only for their absurdity, and rarely their ability to sell or effectiveness.

    Speaking as someone who has worked in the advertising industry.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I did say "often," not "always".

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    PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Man, I thought the joke about people freaking out over "videogame ethnic character looking menacing on a bus advertisement" was a jab at the whole GTA 4 vs CTA debacle.

    Now I've learned that this has happened twice and my faith in humanity has died a bit more.

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    CliffCliff Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    It's pretty hard to defend Capcom, makers of Street Fighter, one of the most racist franchises ever.

    I mean, Come on...
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    ChillyWillyChillyWilly Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Cliff wrote: »
    It's pretty hard to defend Capcom, makers of Street Fighter, one of the most racist franchises ever.

    I mean, Come on...
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    Is there no difference between "this is blatantly racist" and "this is a play on a stereotype"?

    I'm not saying that Capcom is or isn't racist. I'm just wondering if you think there is a difference between those two things.

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    Manji113Manji113 Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Gaddez wrote: »
    GogoKodo wrote: »
    I don't agree with this one.

    1. The game plays like that. 50 is basically a super hero in the game, behing able to take a bunch of bullets, and you are able to perform silly fatality (like mortal kombat almost) type kills.

    2. I bet there are a lot of offices out there that you could walk in to and see a dozen or so white white collar business men. There are a lot of game out there where it's white guys shooting a bunch of white guys, they've just replaced the protagonist.

    The ad in question. I'm going with not offensive. Except for 50's horrible rendition of English.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUAJCmVcRqk&NR=1

    Let me ask you a question. if the above video was instead about a well to do middle aged white guy in a suit running through a slum killing african americans with progressivley more ridiculous methodology, prefacing it with "what is mine is mine. What is yours is mine. This whole city is mine" do you think it would have been anything less then incendiary?

    Oh My God you're all missing the point on this one I think.

    It's not an office building; it's a pent house. The guys he's killing? Some drug dealer's henchmen who hired him and then tried to screw him over. Nothing to do with white or black. It's actually a pretty cliche action movie scene but you idiots are all using it to argue about racism.

    Dumb. It's pure John Woo Homage.

    EDIT: If you MUST look for a moral to this video it is thus; Homeboys gets paid.

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    Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Also, one would hope that we're capable of being slightly more sophisticated than "what if a white/black/yellow guy did it?"

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    ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Cliff wrote: »
    It's pretty hard to defend Capcom, makers of Street Fighter, one of the most racist franchises ever.

    I mean, Come on...
    ImageDeeJayDance.gif

    Is there no difference between "this is blatantly racist" and "this is a play on a stereotype"?

    I'm not saying that Capcom is or isn't racist. I'm just wondering if you think there is a difference between those two things.

    well people confuse the term "racist" with "stereotyping"

    neither is good but let's get it right, people

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    mogonkmogonk Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
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    I don't even know where to start.

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    electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    mogonk wrote: »
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    I don't even know where to start.

    Holy crap.

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    JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2010
    Well.

    He's not wrong.

    Cyborg's aint ladies.

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    Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I'm digging the bracelet made out of unfired rounds, personally

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    CowSharkCowShark Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Was The Joker a character in Combatribes? (Panel 2?)

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    Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I'd punch a cyborg lady

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    PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Wouldn't cyborg ladies still be at least part lady?
    :winky:

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    ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Wouldn't cyborg ladies still be at least part lady?
    :winky:

    why couldn't it be the other kind of mermaid

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I don't understand.

    That's clearly the Joker.
    But what the hell is Combatribes?

    Also is it pronounced Combat ribs?

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    override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Kagera wrote: »
    Something can be offensive to him without being offensive in general.

    Like Justin Bieber.

    Justin Bieber has yet to comment on the allegations that he is a cleverly disguised 51 year old pedophile

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    GimGim a tall glass of water Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Is that a Liefeld creation?

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    SchrodingerSchrodinger Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    agentk13 wrote: »
    Apparently this ad was considered offensive when it came out and got pulled.

    Maybe because of his terrible dental hygiene?
    This one was banned too, and I think both are actually really effective and creative commercials.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRt0s_BJEyo&feature=related

    I really want to set up one of those mass improv things to do that, but I'm pretty sure that would end in at least one death.

    Fact: In 100% of all imaginary gun related shootings, the victim is always the one with the imaginary gun.

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    SchrodingerSchrodinger Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Doc wrote: »
    I'm quite a bit more concerned about the UK banning a piece of media because 8 people complained than I am about the mildly violent content.

    US can top that.

    Rakolta boycott

    In 1989, Terry Rakolta, a conservative homemaker from Bloomfield Hills, Michigan, led a boycott[5] against Married... with Children after viewing the episode Her Cups Runneth Over – 0306.[6] Offended by the images of an old man wearing a woman's garter and stockings, the scene where Steve touches the panties of a mannequin dressed in S&M gear, a homosexual man wearing a tiara on his head (and Al's line "...and they wonder why we call them 'queens'"), and a half-nude woman who takes off her bra in front of Al (and is shown with her arms covering her bare chest in the next shot), Rakolta began a letter-writing campaign to advertisers, demanding they boycott the show.

    After advertisers began dropping their support for the show and while Rakolta made several appearances on television talk shows demanding the show's cancellation, Fox executives refused to air the episode titled I'll See You In Court – 0310.[7] This episode would become known as the "Lost Episode" and was aired on Fox on June 18, 2002, with some parts cut. The episode was packaged with the rest of the third season in the January 2005 DVD release (and in the first volume of the Married...With Children Most Outrageous episode DVD set) with the parts cut from syndication restored.

    Despite the boycott, the ratings for Married... with Children actually increased due to rising interest in the show caused by Rakolta's crusade to have the show cancelled (a non-Internet example of the Streisand effect). The increased number of viewers brought most of the advertisers back, and it kept the show on the air until 1997.

    Rakolta has been referenced twice on the show: Rock and Roll Girl – 0414,[8] when a newscaster mentioned the city Bloomfield Hills, and No Pot To Pease In – 0909,[9] when a television show was made about the Bundy family and then was canceled because (according to Marcy) "some woman in Michigan didn't like it".

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    SchrodingerSchrodinger Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Synthesis wrote: »
    I found the Call of Duty one with all the corporate drone types fighting it out in a far too realistic battlefield to be mildly disturbing

    The fact that they never showed anyone being shot--just people shooting in various directions, and a helicopter exploding--kind of highlights how disturbing the commercial is if you think about it.

    Yeah, I was a bit put off by that one to be honest. Just seemed like poor taste.

    I don't get the last shot, where the guy is firing two guns in opposite directions.

    Can you... do that in that game?

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    ED!ED! Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Synthesis wrote: »
    I found the Call of Duty one with all the corporate drone types fighting it out in a far too realistic battlefield to be mildly disturbing

    The fact that they never showed anyone being shot--just people shooting in various directions, and a helicopter exploding--kind of highlights how disturbing the commercial is if you think about it.

    Yeah, I was a bit put off by that one to be honest. Just seemed like poor taste.

    I don't get the last shot, where the guy is firing two guns in opposite directions.

    Can you... do that in that game?

    That's the classic Gunslinger-Taking-On-Two-Oppositely-Approaching-Baddies pose.

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    SchrodingerSchrodinger Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    shryke wrote: »
    Oh, I meant to say "didn't." It didn't bother me at all.

    That's fucked up.

    I mean, you gotta be a special kind of oblivious to miss the creepyness of that ad.

    I think to say that it's creepy, or even, as suggested before, insinuating rape is a rather large stretch. Is it objectifying? Yes, it is. But it's nothing beyond that, and marketing it all about stereotyping and objectifying. I'm more annoyed that it's dumb as hell. I mean, they're button mashing to change the color of their car. Who does that? And why does it take two of them to do it?

    Quick side-note: Fuck almost every movie and tv show that has a scene with people "playing" video games.

    Except Mall Rats and Chasing Amy because Jason Lee (both movies) and Ben Affleck (Amy) were both actually playing Genesis as they did their lines.

    Matthew Broderick seemed to genuinely be playing Tic-Tac-Toe in War Games.

    Also, Jimmy Wood button mashes at the intro screen of Double Dragons pretty much the same way that most kids do in that situation.

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    HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2010
    I think that I even bought Juiced 2, in the THQ pack on the steam sale. D:

    Edit: Indeed!

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    DraperDraper __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2010
    Tav wrote: »
    I know some ads for Hitman: Blood Money were pulled for being offensive, but really I don't think I've ever been offended by an ad for a video game.

    Chick in underwear, bra and dressing gown with a bullet in her head.

    Pulled for being too fucking good.

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    HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2010
    I think the offensive thing is there hasn't been a follow up to Blood Money in four years.

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    ChillyWillyChillyWilly Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Doc wrote: »
    I'm quite a bit more concerned about the UK banning a piece of media because 8 people complained than I am about the mildly violent content.

    US can top that.

    Rakolta boycott

    In 1989, Terry Rakolta, a conservative homemaker from Bloomfield Hills, Michigan, led a boycott[5] against Married... with Children after viewing the episode Her Cups Runneth Over – 0306.[6] Offended by the images of an old man wearing a woman's garter and stockings, the scene where Steve touches the panties of a mannequin dressed in S&M gear, a homosexual man wearing a tiara on his head (and Al's line "...and they wonder why we call them 'queens'"), and a half-nude woman who takes off her bra in front of Al (and is shown with her arms covering her bare chest in the next shot), Rakolta began a letter-writing campaign to advertisers, demanding they boycott the show.

    After advertisers began dropping their support for the show and while Rakolta made several appearances on television talk shows demanding the show's cancellation, Fox executives refused to air the episode titled I'll See You In Court – 0310.[7] This episode would become known as the "Lost Episode" and was aired on Fox on June 18, 2002, with some parts cut. The episode was packaged with the rest of the third season in the January 2005 DVD release (and in the first volume of the Married...With Children Most Outrageous episode DVD set) with the parts cut from syndication restored.

    Despite the boycott, the ratings for Married... with Children actually increased due to rising interest in the show caused by Rakolta's crusade to have the show cancelled (a non-Internet example of the Streisand effect). The increased number of viewers brought most of the advertisers back, and it kept the show on the air until 1997.

    Rakolta has been referenced twice on the show: Rock and Roll Girl – 0414,[8] when a newscaster mentioned the city Bloomfield Hills, and No Pot To Pease In – 0909,[9] when a television show was made about the Bundy family and then was canceled because (according to Marcy) "some woman in Michigan didn't like it".

    In a bit of an offshoot of this, don't people realize that getting angry about things and protesting them only makes them more popular? If you protest the crap out of something that you hate and it gets any kind of news coverage, that only means that more people are going to find out about it and have a chance to see it/purchase it.

    It amazes me that people have completely missed this idea after years and years of protests about various things.

    Examples include: Eminem's (almost) entire career, Harry Potter, violent and/or edgy videogames such as GTA and Mortal Kombat, etc.

    It's pretty simple...if you want something to go away and you really dislike it, you should ignore it as much as you possibly can.

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    LilnoobsLilnoobs Alpha Queue Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Doc wrote: »
    I'm quite a bit more concerned about the UK banning a piece of media because 8 people complained than I am about the mildly violent content.

    US can top that.

    Rakolta boycott

    In 1989, Terry Rakolta, a conservative homemaker from Bloomfield Hills, Michigan, led a boycott[5] against Married... with Children after viewing the episode Her Cups Runneth Over – 0306.[6] Offended by the images of an old man wearing a woman's garter and stockings, the scene where Steve touches the panties of a mannequin dressed in S&M gear, a homosexual man wearing a tiara on his head (and Al's line "...and they wonder why we call them 'queens'"), and a half-nude woman who takes off her bra in front of Al (and is shown with her arms covering her bare chest in the next shot), Rakolta began a letter-writing campaign to advertisers, demanding they boycott the show.

    After advertisers began dropping their support for the show and while Rakolta made several appearances on television talk shows demanding the show's cancellation, Fox executives refused to air the episode titled I'll See You In Court – 0310.[7] This episode would become known as the "Lost Episode" and was aired on Fox on June 18, 2002, with some parts cut. The episode was packaged with the rest of the third season in the January 2005 DVD release (and in the first volume of the Married...With Children Most Outrageous episode DVD set) with the parts cut from syndication restored.

    Despite the boycott, the ratings for Married... with Children actually increased due to rising interest in the show caused by Rakolta's crusade to have the show cancelled (a non-Internet example of the Streisand effect). The increased number of viewers brought most of the advertisers back, and it kept the show on the air until 1997.

    Rakolta has been referenced twice on the show: Rock and Roll Girl – 0414,[8] when a newscaster mentioned the city Bloomfield Hills, and No Pot To Pease In – 0909,[9] when a television show was made about the Bundy family and then was canceled because (according to Marcy) "some woman in Michigan didn't like it".

    In a bit of an offshoot of this, don't people realize that getting angry about things and protesting them only makes them more popular? If you protest the crap out of something that you hate and it gets any kind of news coverage, that only means that more people are going to find out about it and have a chance to see it/purchase it.

    It amazes me that people have completely missed this idea after years and years of protests about various things.

    Examples include: Eminem's (almost) entire career, Harry Potter, violent and/or edgy videogames such as GTA and Mortal Kombat, etc.

    It's pretty simple...if you want something to go away and you really dislike it, you should ignore it as much as you possibly can.

    Time to Godwin this thread.

    Yeah, like all of Europe did to Germany and the rise of Hitler. Ignore the problem, it'll work itself out.
    only half joking

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    ChillyWillyChillyWilly Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Lilnoobs wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    I'm quite a bit more concerned about the UK banning a piece of media because 8 people complained than I am about the mildly violent content.

    US can top that.

    Rakolta boycott

    In 1989, Terry Rakolta, a conservative homemaker from Bloomfield Hills, Michigan, led a boycott[5] against Married... with Children after viewing the episode Her Cups Runneth Over – 0306.[6] Offended by the images of an old man wearing a woman's garter and stockings, the scene where Steve touches the panties of a mannequin dressed in S&M gear, a homosexual man wearing a tiara on his head (and Al's line "...and they wonder why we call them 'queens'"), and a half-nude woman who takes off her bra in front of Al (and is shown with her arms covering her bare chest in the next shot), Rakolta began a letter-writing campaign to advertisers, demanding they boycott the show.

    After advertisers began dropping their support for the show and while Rakolta made several appearances on television talk shows demanding the show's cancellation, Fox executives refused to air the episode titled I'll See You In Court – 0310.[7] This episode would become known as the "Lost Episode" and was aired on Fox on June 18, 2002, with some parts cut. The episode was packaged with the rest of the third season in the January 2005 DVD release (and in the first volume of the Married...With Children Most Outrageous episode DVD set) with the parts cut from syndication restored.

    Despite the boycott, the ratings for Married... with Children actually increased due to rising interest in the show caused by Rakolta's crusade to have the show cancelled (a non-Internet example of the Streisand effect). The increased number of viewers brought most of the advertisers back, and it kept the show on the air until 1997.

    Rakolta has been referenced twice on the show: Rock and Roll Girl – 0414,[8] when a newscaster mentioned the city Bloomfield Hills, and No Pot To Pease In – 0909,[9] when a television show was made about the Bundy family and then was canceled because (according to Marcy) "some woman in Michigan didn't like it".

    In a bit of an offshoot of this, don't people realize that getting angry about things and protesting them only makes them more popular? If you protest the crap out of something that you hate and it gets any kind of news coverage, that only means that more people are going to find out about it and have a chance to see it/purchase it.

    It amazes me that people have completely missed this idea after years and years of protests about various things.

    Examples include: Eminem's (almost) entire career, Harry Potter, violent and/or edgy videogames such as GTA and Mortal Kombat, etc.

    It's pretty simple...if you want something to go away and you really dislike it, you should ignore it as much as you possibly can.

    Time to Godwin this thread.

    Yeah, like all of Europe did to Germany and the rise of Hitler. Ignore the problem, it'll work itself out.
    only half joking

    Even though you're joking, you do realize there is a major divide between a group of people murdering another group of people and kiddies reading fictional books about witches, right?

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    ToxTox I kill threads he/himRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I don't think either extreme is a good idea. Voice your opinion, but voice it to those who can actually do something about it. Complain to the manufacturer, etc. Once you start complaining to the media and/or papers you might as well be attention whoring, because your best bet is to Obi-wan whatever it is you hate ("If you strike me down now I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine")

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    ChillyWillyChillyWilly Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Tox wrote: »
    I don't think either extreme is a good idea. Voice your opinion, but voice it to those who can actually do something about it. Complain to the manufacturer, etc. Once you start complaining to the media and/or papers you might as well be attention whoring, because your best bet is to Obi-wan whatever it is you hate ("If you strike me down now I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine")

    Thanks for the reasonable response. If only everyone could respond this way.

    And just so I'm clear, I don't mean that people should do absolutely nothing in these situations. What I am saying is that, were I a parent that had an issue with a book, movie, game, etc., I would simply explain to my child why they couldn't see it/have it and then limit their exposure to it as much as possible. Protesting particular media items (video games, in this case) works sometimes, but it definitely raises the profile of the game every time, which is exactly the opposite of what protestors are trying to accomplish.

    It just seems like they would figure this out and go about things a different way by now.

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    agentk13agentk13 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2010
    Tox wrote: »
    I don't think either extreme is a good idea. Voice your opinion, but voice it to those who can actually do something about it. Complain to the manufacturer, etc. Once you start complaining to the media and/or papers you might as well be attention whoring, because your best bet is to Obi-wan whatever it is you hate ("If you strike me down now I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine")

    Thanks for the reasonable response. If only everyone could respond this way.

    And just so I'm clear, I don't mean that people should do absolutely nothing in these situations. What I am saying is that, were I a parent that had an issue with a book, movie, game, etc., I would simply explain to my child why they couldn't see it/have it and then limit their exposure to it as much as possible. Protesting particular media items (video games, in this case) works sometimes, but it definitely raises the profile of the game every time, which is exactly the opposite of what protestors are trying to accomplish.

    It just seems like they would figure this out and go about things a different way by now.

    Of course, that only works if you're offended by the product itself and can avoid it. Having him frightened to death by an ad on the local bus you have to use to take him everywhere is neither the product itself nor avoidable.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Keeping it away from your kid is tough though too, b/c you might get a similar effect in that the kid wants it because it's forbidden.

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    ChillyWillyChillyWilly Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    agentk13 wrote: »
    Tox wrote: »
    I don't think either extreme is a good idea. Voice your opinion, but voice it to those who can actually do something about it. Complain to the manufacturer, etc. Once you start complaining to the media and/or papers you might as well be attention whoring, because your best bet is to Obi-wan whatever it is you hate ("If you strike me down now I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine")

    Thanks for the reasonable response. If only everyone could respond this way.

    And just so I'm clear, I don't mean that people should do absolutely nothing in these situations. What I am saying is that, were I a parent that had an issue with a book, movie, game, etc., I would simply explain to my child why they couldn't see it/have it and then limit their exposure to it as much as possible. Protesting particular media items (video games, in this case) works sometimes, but it definitely raises the profile of the game every time, which is exactly the opposite of what protestors are trying to accomplish.

    It just seems like they would figure this out and go about things a different way by now.

    Of course, that only works if you're offended by the product itself and can avoid it. Having him frightened to death by an ad on the local bus you have to use to take him everywhere is neither the product itself nor avoidable.

    Yes, but I wasn't talking about advertising for the product. Just the product itself. Admittedly, this is a thread about ads and I knew that I was venturing slightly off-topic when I brought this up. But I thought it would an interesting aside.

    @KalTorak: True enough. Children want what they can't have. But they're likely to be more receptive to "No, you can't have that" if the reasoning is given by a calm parent than a mob of sensationalist people.

    I'm under no illusions that children can be 100% protected from "bad" things. I just think there are much better ways for people to go about the situation that are less inflammatory and more effective.

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    Modern ManModern Man Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    From a few years back:
    D.C. Metro Rider Complains About Fallout 3 Ads

    A man who rides Washington, D.C.'s Metro underground rail system has written to the Washington Post to complain about poster ads for Fallout 3 which appear in the Metro Center station.

    Joseph Anzalone criticizes the ads as well as Metro management for accepting them:

    In one ad, the Washington Monument and the American flags surrounding it stand ravaged, as if hit by missiles. In another, the Capitol dome is partially caved in, while the rest of the building and the city behind it lie in ruins.

    The people of our city do not need a daily reminder that Washington is a prime target for an attack. We do not need a daily reminder of what our worst fears look like. Since any First Amendment objection would be irrelevant (the ads do not present a true viewpoint or political message and would therefore not be protected), there is no reason for these ads to be part of our daily panorama.

    The ads should be removed, and the appropriate office at Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority should be directed to exercise better judgment regarding what can be displayed in our transportation system
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    http://www.gamepolitics.com/2008/10/25/dc-metro-rider-complains-about-fallout-3-ads

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