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Radiant Historia - Screw Destiny! (Atlus Dream Team RPG)

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    I want to use Aht/Eruca but I'm wondering if the lack of movement skills would bite me in the ass.

    Just don't use them both at once. Aht is probably the nasiest damage-dealer in game, but she needs other people that can shove around enemies, which Eruca can't do at all.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Also, poor Roche is going to be like 15 levels behind by the time I get him back in the party.

    But he'll gain massive XP to catch up. It's a nice feature.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    jothki wrote: »
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    I want to use Aht/Eruca but I'm wondering if the lack of movement skills would bite me in the ass.

    Just don't use them both at once. Aht is probably the nasiest damage-dealer in game, but she needs other people that can shove around enemies, which Eruca can't do at all.

    That's what I was worrying about. I wanted to use them both at the same time. But it seems like I'd need someone with at least decent movement skills outside of Stocke.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    jothki wrote: »
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    I want to use Aht/Eruca but I'm wondering if the lack of movement skills would bite me in the ass.

    Just don't use them both at once. Aht is probably the nasiest damage-dealer in game, but she needs other people that can shove around enemies, which Eruca can't do at all.

    That's what I was worrying about. I wanted to use them both at the same time. But it seems like I'd need someone with at least decent movement skills outside of Stocke.

    Here are my end-game pushing abilities for all characters as far as I know:
    Stocke - Left, Right, Push, Air
    Roche - Left, Air, Push, Grapple
    Marco - Push, Grapple
    Raynie - Push
    Gafka - Push, Grapple, (Move Everyone to Center)
    Aht - Push, Air
    Eruca - Push

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I might actually be able to work with that.

    Heck, I've been using Stocke, Raynie, and Aht in SH and doing pretty good at the moment.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Cantido wrote: »
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    jothki wrote: »
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    I want to use Aht/Eruca but I'm wondering if the lack of movement skills would bite me in the ass.

    Just don't use them both at once. Aht is probably the nasiest damage-dealer in game, but she needs other people that can shove around enemies, which Eruca can't do at all.

    That's what I was worrying about. I wanted to use them both at the same time. But it seems like I'd need someone with at least decent movement skills outside of Stocke.

    Here are my end-game pushing abilities for all characters as far as I know:
    Stocke - Left, Right, Push, Air
    Roche - Left, Air, Push, Grapple
    Marco - Push, Grapple
    Raynie - Push
    Gafka - Push, Grapple, (Move Everyone to Center)
    Aht - Push, Air
    Eruca - Push
    Gafka also has "shove an entire row to the right" and both Stocke and Raynie can eventually pull the back row forward. Marco learns left and right via scrolls.

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Cantido wrote: »
    Here are my end-game pushing abilities for all characters as far as I know:
    Stocke - Left, Right, Push, Air, Column Push, Line Grapple
    Roche - Left, Air, Push, Grapple
    Marco - Push, Left, Right, Grapple
    Raynie - Push
    Gafka - Push, Grapple, Line Push, Line Grapple, Column Right, Move Everyone to Center
    Aht - Push, + Air
    Eruca - Push, Column Push

    You forgot a bunch. Going off of memory, so I'm missing some too. I'm forgetting Roche's.
    And really, Gafka is king of enemy board manipulation.

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    gafka can suck all the enemies onto the center square

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    And then Roche tosses them all up with Big Air, allowing Stocke to crush them with whatever the hell he wants.

    But I agree with vagrant: when you absolutely, positively need enemies shoved around, you need a 400-pound gorilla-man.

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  • l_gl_g Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Rosche, Stocke, and two smoking barrels?

    I wish that when Rosche left your party, he'd leave the equipment with you. He leaves so often!
    Some of the areas that seem vast feel odd to navigate. The rooms in the Sand Fortress seem comically huge, and you kind of have to feel around it the first time you get there.

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  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    l_g wrote: »
    Rosche, Stocke, and two smoking barrels?

    I wish that when Rosche left your party, he'd leave the equipment with you. He leaves so often!
    Some of the areas that seem vast feel odd to navigate. The rooms in the Sand Fortress seem comically huge, and you kind of have to feel around it the first time you get there.

    You could always just time travel back to when you had him, strip him naked, and then time travel back to where you need his equipment. That's what I did with Aht, when I first lost her in standard history.

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Raiden333 wrote: »
    l_g wrote: »
    Rosche, Stocke, and two smoking barrels?

    I wish that when Rosche left your party, he'd leave the equipment with you. He leaves so often!
    Some of the areas that seem vast feel odd to navigate. The rooms in the Sand Fortress seem comically huge, and you kind of have to feel around it the first time you get there.

    You could always just time travel back to when you had him, strip him naked, and then time travel back to where you need his equipment. That's what I did with Aht, when I first lost her in standard history.

    It isn't like it's actually necessary, though. Armor is replaced easily enough, and he doesn't use the same lances as Raynie.

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  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    jothki wrote: »
    Raiden333 wrote: »
    l_g wrote: »
    Rosche, Stocke, and two smoking barrels?

    I wish that when Rosche left your party, he'd leave the equipment with you. He leaves so often!
    Some of the areas that seem vast feel odd to navigate. The rooms in the Sand Fortress seem comically huge, and you kind of have to feel around it the first time you get there.

    You could always just time travel back to when you had him, strip him naked, and then time travel back to where you need his equipment. That's what I did with Aht, when I first lost her in standard history.

    It isn't like it's actually necessary, though. Armor is replaced easily enough, and he doesn't use the same lances as Raynie.

    Good accessories are at a premium, though.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    So what is up with the sound effects in this game? Footsteps and all.

    It just arrived, inexplicably (but wonderfully) dodging customs.

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    236/236 Nodes completed. Optional boss murdred (Aht + Eurica). Final boss obliterated (Eurica + Gafka). And leveled up everyone to learn their final abilities before that on a whim (almost all of which are awesome).

    I'll say the ending was enjoyable. If it's 15mins and I pay attention through the entire thing, it has to be. I just wish there was a second scene after the bonus true/complete-ending scene.
    I wanted a Stocke/Raynie reuniting actually shown, TotA style. :(

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Ff9 still has the award for happiest ending in a JRPG.
    It runs with the whole "hero is gone" thing for a long long time, then Zidane comes out of nowhere and is like IM BACK, BITCHES! And his girlfriend glomps him and all the heroes are around and it's just the greatest thing ever.

    God Zidane rocks.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Optional boss murdred (Aht + Eurica).

    What levels, out of curiosity?

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    236/236 Nodes completed. Optional boss murdred (Aht + Eurica). Final boss obliterated (Eurica + Gafka). And leveled up everyone to learn their final abilities before that on a whim (almost all of which are awesome).

    I'll say the ending was enjoyable. If it's 15mins and I pay attention through the entire thing, it has to be. I just wish there was a second scene after the bonus true/complete-ending scene.
    I wanted a Stocke/Raynie reuniting actually shown, TotA style. :(

    Wait...does
    Stocke have to get together with Raynie? I'm pretty meh about her.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    236/236 Nodes completed. Optional boss murdred (Aht + Eurica). Final boss obliterated (Eurica + Gafka). And leveled up everyone to learn their final abilities before that on a whim (almost all of which are awesome).

    I'll say the ending was enjoyable. If it's 15mins and I pay attention through the entire thing, it has to be. I just wish there was a second scene after the bonus true/complete-ending scene.
    I wanted a Stocke/Raynie reuniting actually shown, TotA style. :(

    Wait...does
    Stocke have to get together with Raynie? I'm pretty meh about her.

    Yes.
    First, Aht is a loli goat, then
    Eruca is his sister.

    and Raynie is pretty tsundere toward him from the beginning. There is a godawful romance sidequest for Raynie that makes no sense and comes out of nowhere. Raynie is in love with Stocke but, refreshingly, Stocke and Raynie are not the center of each others' universes.

    Sidequest
    Basically, Stocke says certain things in three different dialog choices in three different points in time. Two out of three with nothing to do with her, but she witness all three. You have to choose the more "heroic" sounding options. Doing the third then going back in time and seeing her makes her completely switch to deredere mode and fess up

    That's right. Stocke is such a manly man that Raynie falls in love in reverse. 8-)

    The bad news is she's thinking about giving up, and wants Stocke to elope with her to live in peace. Doing that gives a BAD END text wall that they really did leave with the blessing of the rest of the party, and lived peacefully for one year. The world turned to desert and Stocke uses the White Chronicle when he figures it simply wont work.

    Instead, Stocke promises to settle down with her when the world is significantly less doomed. But either choice pretty much implies he returns the feelings. Stocke loving her back instantly is the weird part. Then again. It's Raynie. :winky:

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Oh...I was interested in Eruca.

    But that revelation has showed me why that wouldn't work.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    It's actually more messed up than that simple spoiler, if you can believe that.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    This is either the third or fourth year in a row where a fantastically high quality small time RPG has been released in the first quarter for the DS and gone toe to toe with other, bigger releases in terms of quality.

    This is probably the best multipath RPG ever.

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  • Gandalf_the_CrazedGandalf_the_Crazed Vigilo ConfidoRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    This is either the third or fourth year in a row where a fantastically high quality small time RPG has been released in the first quarter for the DS and gone toe to toe with other, bigger releases in terms of quality.

    This is probably the best multipath RPG ever.

    Better than Chrono Trigger? Because...I mean, I haven't finished it yet, so maybe, but I'm inclined to call that heresy. ;-)

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Chrono Trigger is not a multipath RPG.

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  • Gandalf_the_CrazedGandalf_the_Crazed Vigilo ConfidoRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Maybe I'm misunderstanding the word "multipath", then.

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Maybe I'm misunderstanding the word "multipath", then.

    Chrono Trigger has a single plotline that you proceed through in a linear fashion, with the exception of multiple sidequests at the end that are entirely self-contained. There are multiple 'paths' to the ending, but those paths are largely trivial and mostly involve skipping parts of the final boss, with the exception of the bonus dungeon that fills the role of, well, a bonus dungeon, and thus isn't really an alternative route.

    Compare this to Radiant Historia, which has two plotlines that are largely separate (except when they aren't, but that's part of the game's gimmick). Or 999, which features multiple wildly different routes through which you can take the game.

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  • Gandalf_the_CrazedGandalf_the_Crazed Vigilo ConfidoRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Oh, OK.

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  • TertieeTertiee Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Has anyone heard anything about a second print run for this game? Amazon.com proper isn't selling it anymore which has me scared that this game will become scarce very quick.

    I know of Atlus' reputation but recent DS titles like Etrian Odyssey III and Strange Journey are still widely available so I was planning on waiting to purchase Radiant Historia until now.

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  • BursarBursar Hee Noooo! PDX areaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Another print run is being made, and Amazon will be stocking it (and according to our marketing manager, they should be taking back orders now). It should be available again in mid-April. However, as promised, only the first printing comes with the soundtrack CD.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Atlus's low print runs are an urban legend this gen.

    Last gen however, especially at the end of the GBA's run, was brutal. I think I have one of three copies of Yggdra Union ever produced.

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  • KaseiusKaseius Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Saw the price of Historia on Amazon, so I rushed down to the nearby Gamestop and bought their last copy. It's sitting on my shelf, being pretty. Maybe I should play it.

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  • BasilBasil Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Maybe you should, Kaseius.

    Just think, what if you died gasping in your sleep tonight?

    You'd never have played it.

    And that would be a tragedy.

    For multiple reasons.

    -what I'm saying is playitplayitplayitplayitplayit

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  • KaseiusKaseius Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    :cry:

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  • Gandalf_the_CrazedGandalf_the_Crazed Vigilo ConfidoRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Ugh. Currently gathering firewood.
    Am I correct in thinking that this bullshit "look for this invisible shit!" quest is really just intended to grind me in preparation for an upcoming battle?

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Ugh. Currently gathering firewood.
    Am I correct in thinking that this bullshit "look for this invisible shit!" quest is really just intended to grind me in preparation for an upcoming battle?

    Two things:

    1. The game is teaching you to find loot.
    2. Shit is gonna get real in both timelines soon

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  • Chrono HelixChrono Helix Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Optional boss murdred (Aht + Eurica).

    What levels, out of curiosity?

    I accomplished it in the mid 50's. Having shield seeds and ailment protection (particularly sleep) is pretty important.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Optional boss murdred (Aht + Eurica).

    What levels, out of curiosity?

    I accomplished it in the mid 50's. Having shield seeds and ailment protection (particularly sleep) is pretty important.


    Aha. Burned my shield seeds on the Mist Spider, sadly.

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Cantido wrote: »
    Ugh. Currently gathering firewood.
    Am I correct in thinking that this bullshit "look for this invisible shit!" quest is really just intended to grind me in preparation for an upcoming battle?

    Two things:

    1. The game is teaching you to find loot.
    2. Shit is gonna get real in both timelines soon

    Yeah, in this game, invisible chests are everywhere. Check back in places you've already been, including the building in the mines.

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  • TertieeTertiee Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Bursar wrote: »
    Another print run is being made, and Amazon will be stocking it (and according to our marketing manager, they should be taking back orders now). It should be available again in mid-April. However, as promised, only the first printing comes with the soundtrack CD.

    Thanks for the information.

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Optional boss murdred (Aht + Eurica).

    What levels, out of curiosity?

    I was well overleveled (60-65), as I grinded everyone in the last dungon on the crystals to get their last techniques (62 for Aht, 60 for everyone else). Eurica and a few Shield Seed+ (stealable from the final AH bosses) are necessary. Load up on Magic Resist, keep your immunity shields up, and always keep Aht's +Status Resist spell on (or load up on +Status accessories if using someone else).

    It's a battle of attrition and only gets easier if you can survive the beginning. Kill one as fast as possible safely (using your Turn Breaks and hitting one into many traps) as soon as you're able to go 100% offensive for a turn. Once you get a second down the fight becomes a cakewalk. The struggle is maintaining your defenses while there's 3-4 of them.

    As a note, Aht is the best character from when you get her till near-endgame. Eurica is the best character near-endgame till the end.

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