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[FRINGE] Reality be fragmenting at the seams
Lady Eri
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So search is gone and I can't find the thread, but a new timeslot calls for a new thread anyway, and a new beginning. Let me make this perfectly clear for people who have heard anything else:
Fringe is the best thing on television, it is a show so completely worth your time, go find a way to start seasons one and two before this Friday, because OH GOD this is the best show ever.
If all else fails the first half of season three is on Hulu right now (partly). But don't start there, part of the charm and beauty of Fringe is how it morphs from what seems like a pedantic show to the Mona Lisa of sci-fi shows, and it does it in two seasons. So this Friday at 9pm on FOX, tune into Fringe. Because all it needs is 75% of it's Thursday ratings and its permanently on Fridays.
JJ Abram's Take
To conclude, the show is beautiful, thought-provoking, and at time can be a little campy. However its worst episode is better than 90% of anything else, and its great episodes shine brilliantly (White Tulip, if nothing else watch White Tulip, also Peter).
Fringe is the best thing on television, it is a show so completely worth your time, go find a way to start seasons one and two before this Friday, because OH GOD this is the best show ever.
If all else fails the first half of season three is on Hulu right now (partly). But don't start there, part of the charm and beauty of Fringe is how it morphs from what seems like a pedantic show to the Mona Lisa of sci-fi shows, and it does it in two seasons. So this Friday at 9pm on FOX, tune into Fringe. Because all it needs is 75% of it's Thursday ratings and its permanently on Fridays.
JJ Abram's Take
To conclude, the show is beautiful, thought-provoking, and at time can be a little campy. However its worst episode is better than 90% of anything else, and its great episodes shine brilliantly (White Tulip, if nothing else watch White Tulip, also Peter).
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Not sure that I'd call it thought-provoking though.
Really?
White Tulip wasn't thought-provoking?
The first season finale wasn't though-provoking?
The mystery of season two until the episode Peter wasn't thought-provoking?
The freaking opener and it's myriad of changes that signal whats going on in an episode isn't thought-provoking?
Everything about the small details of the other episodes in season three aren't thought-provoking? The billboards, the maps, the small details on ads, TVs, technology.
BLAM BLAM BLAM in the distance, Joshua Jackson: "It's Chinatown, I'm not nervous, whatever!"
How long does it take episodes to come up on Hulu? Because I may have to turn to that to check it out, given that CW's player sucks hard and doesn't update for like a week after an episode airs.
The next day. I usually check around noon EST and it'll be there, so maybe earlier.
It remains good fun for the most part, the last few episodes avoided the usual lows that we've come to expect from Pacey's Amazing Coat Adventures.
http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=69458&page=90
Specifically, the thoughts that were provoked were, "those are white blood cells and they don't work that way" and "are you people babies being payed in crayons and pudding to write plot."
It's a decent show but that is ridiculous hyperbole.
I like the show, but would probably not care if John Noble wasn't in it.
He, alone, might be one of the best things currently on television.
Also, I had to trudge through the first half of season one. It certainly didn't start out as the best show on television. And a lot of the show's "science" is bad enough to make me wince.
That said, the show is my favorite of those currently on television, and the attention to detail and overall production values are top-notch. This is Abrams's finest work by far.
ITT: Lady Eri damns Fringe with the faintest of praise.
When the scientific jargon goes wrong (and it does, often), it goes really wrong.
Did a telepathic snot vampire just shapeshift into a rocket and blast off to the moon?
It turns out that Walter happened to see the right color jellybean to remind him that he and Belly did some experiments for the government (at some point in the period they worked for the government, in between the 20,000 other time-intensive, long-term, world-changing experiments they did) which harnessed graviton dilithium inversion engines that could focus the latent ghostbusting power of the hippocampus to channel Aztec panther spirits to empower moonrocketing!
At the same time, they're presenting he and "Belly" as two of, if not the top two, scientists. In the world. Plus it's sci-fi don't be such a dick!
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I'm not doing that at all. It's just that during series 1 and 2, often all your could take from an episode was that Pacey wore a fabulous coat. They really need to get sponsored by whoever makes the things so they can slot in a little segment after each episode,
"In tonight's Fringe, Pacey was dressed by Zara, featuring an Old Airman Peacoat and Fancy Jack's Loafers."
It did get better, though. I hope that trend continued.
The characters have also been given more depth than it appeared they would have when the show started. One particular scene I'm thinking of, in season 1 (I think), had Walter the Wacky but Benevolent, Absent-Minded Professor being hounded for some zany thing he did, when all of a sudden he slams his hands down on the table and shouts, " Stop treating me like a child!" It made me sit up and reevaluate the character, and then as the show goes on you realize that he's a serious dude who has done some, in the words of Roy Batty, 'questionable things', and that's aside from the season 2 hook thing.
Also, angry Walter best Walter.
It's more that they use science terms in all the wrong way. Or they did. They have got much better. The early series has some real cringe inducing moments.
Nobody expects actual science, but when they say "We'll just use fluid mechanics!" and then they plug an Amiga into a fish to see its last moments projected onto an oscilloscope trace, then it's just awful.
Weird gray areas of human knowledge we don't get? Sure, dive right in.
Star Trek-esque jargon that might make some sort of internally consistent sense? Gangbusters, I'm all for it.
Things that I know for a fact are wrong because that is the exact opposite of how they work?
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I don't mean to keep this thread on a "bad science, punch writers" sort of note. It's really just the only problem I have with the show, so it sort of stands out amid my opinions.
Before actually sitting down to watch it, I checked out Fox's official page on it out of curiosity and had just about every major plot point spoiled for me in the show synopsis. Despite that, it's still been really fun to watch, aside from the aforementioned occasionally cringeworthy science.
How would that help attract people who already dismiss Fringe out of hand, though? Everyone knows Abrams, and everyone will click it. Changing the title doesn't help bring more people to the thread. If you don't know anything about it, having Fringe in the title does what precisely?
It tells you that this is the Fringe thread where we talk about Fringe.
Maybe change the quote, as most people dismiss JJ Abrams on account of "Hurf durf Lost was made up as it went along", maybe something like "Now with 25% fewer awful episodes per series!"?
Friday.
With Christopher Lloyd.
So now we've had Nemoy and Lloyd. What other crazy mad scientists can they possibly add?
Can I still complain about all the times that doodad from three episodes ago could have solved this episode within five minutes, but is now conveniently forgotten as if it never existed?
But yeah, I should watch more Fringe.
I concur!