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  • Witch_Hunter_84Witch_Hunter_84 Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I think the chess piece you're talking about was there to show us the "cure" wasn't permanent like everyone believed, and that Magneto would be back to plauge humanity another day.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I liked that Parallax Audio clip.

    Especially the pew! pew! laser bit

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Really liked First Class. I had my doubts about McAvoy and Fassbender when they were first cast, but they did an excellent job.

    The only thing that bugged me a bit, and not even that much is Magneto's outfit at the end;
    Did they really have to go full comic book on the helmet? He even has those stupid little horns on the top

    Also, it's sort of why would he even have a costume? I don't know..they tried to walk the line between realism and comicbooky, and I thought they did it very well, but at the end they have him wearing that. It seemed silly.

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I finally saw first class, and did not care for it.

    It really could not be subtle at all, and the first half of the movie just felt like a mess of stuff, until they finally purged a lot of useless stuff going into the better second half. The dialogue was also consistently terrible and the film felt cheap and campy a lot of the time. Very few of the characters had time to develop their motivations at all, so a lot of things just seemed to happen. I'm pretty bummed out.

    Also,
    They had a black mutant just to kill him off right away again, which sort of pissed me off.

    Magneto's entire character ended up coming from Sebastian Shaw, which bothered me quite a bit. Azazel felt like the only reason he was in the movie at all was so that Magneto could teleport away at the very end of the final battle. They spent so much time half developing a bunch of characters that ended up either dying or not doing anything, that everyone else got short-shifted. The prof x and magneto relationship suffered the most, but next to that banshee and havok got even less initial character set-up than Darwin and Angel. That one scene where all the kids showed their powers off to eachother was just terrible, and then Darwin dies a few minutes later and that Angel girl never really talks again.

    The CIA plot never really came together, we never found out exactly what the deal on Shaw was for the FBI or why he was able to double-deal so freely the way he was.

    I know, by not liking it I will suck, but I thought it was pretty terrible.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    How do they show Shaw's powers in action? The trailers made it look like he turns into Spiral with fists everywhere.

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  • MastaPMastaP Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Yes, they do, and it was surprisingly accurate for a movie that didn't seem at all concerned with comics accuracy

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Wow. The GL movie people sure got creative with the constructs
    (it looks like it is from the climactic fight scene in the movie, so some people may not want to see it)
    http://www.traileraddict.com/clip/green-lantern/parallax

    And earth based clips, that aren't nearly as interesting

    http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/1106/06/index.htm

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Bloods End wrote: »
    Wow. The GL movie people sure got creative with the constructs
    (it looks like it is from the climactic fight scene in the movie, so some people may not want to see it)
    http://www.traileraddict.com/clip/green-lantern/parallax

    And earth based clips, that aren't nearly as interesting

    http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/1106/06/index.htm

    I don't know...the constructs looked a little bit silly to me. They worked on comics and cartoons, but seeing a spring that throws a truck doesn't work for me.

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  • IndiIndi Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    TexiKen wrote: »
    How do they show Shaw's powers in action? The trailers made it look like he turns into Spiral with fists everywhere.

    If you've seen the Chronicles of Riddick movie when Lord Marshal starts moving really fast, it's the same special effect used with Shaw when he absorbs energy/force. Then he can make stuff go explodey with a touch if he's charged enough.

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Well yeah, logically if you think about it tactically all they should be doing is shooting green lasers and making hands or something.

    That is also boring.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I really like that GL clip, I don't care if the constructs look kind of strange, they always do, and it's part of the charm.

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Bloods End wrote: »
    Well yeah, logically if you think about it tactically all they should be doing is shooting green lasers and making hands or something.

    That is also boring.

    But then it would be even more true to the comics featuring Hal!

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  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    I finally saw first class, and did not care for it.

    It really could not be subtle at all, and the first half of the movie just felt like a mess of stuff, until they finally purged a lot of useless stuff going into the better second half. The dialogue was also consistently terrible and the film felt cheap and campy a lot of the time. Very few of the characters had time to develop their motivations at all, so a lot of things just seemed to happen. I'm pretty bummed out.

    Also,
    They had a black mutant just to kill him off right away again, which sort of pissed me off.

    Magneto's entire character ended up coming from Sebastian Shaw, which bothered me quite a bit. Azazel felt like the only reason he was in the movie at all was so that Magneto could teleport away at the very end of the final battle. They spent so much time half developing a bunch of characters that ended up either dying or not doing anything, that everyone else got short-shifted. The prof x and magneto relationship suffered the most, but next to that banshee and havok got even less initial character set-up than Darwin and Angel. That one scene where all the kids showed their powers off to eachother was just terrible, and then Darwin dies a few minutes later and that Angel girl never really talks again.

    The CIA plot never really came together, we never found out exactly what the deal on Shaw was for the FBI or why he was able to double-deal so freely the way he was.

    I know, by not liking it I will suck, but I thought it was pretty terrible.

    Though I think a lot of your criticisms are valid I disagree with your point about Magneto. His motivations were completely driven by his childhood experiences. Shaw was just a physical representation of that history - that just makes it easier for the purposes of the film.

    I liked the film a lot - though it did have some bumps. I'll spoiler the rest:
    For one I didn't think they did a good job of making Erik and Xavier equals. It always seemed like Xavier had the leadership role and influence over the whole team - Erik included. It would've been nice to see Erik put some influence on Xavier as well. Maybe have Xavier be a bit of a naive optimist but ultimately have Erik pull him a bit more towards reality.

    On a more nit-picky front I hated the representation of Havok's power. The fact that he had to do that little hulahoop motion with his hips was really silly.

    Finally, the whole film felt too compressed. There just wasn't enough time for the characters to really deal with what was coming at them. For example, Hank (from a character perspective) should've been pretty traumatized by his transformation. Further to that, Mystique leaving with Magneto and even Angel's betrayal all felt out of character - even with the writers explicitly trying to give them motivations.

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    I finally saw first class, and did not care for it.

    It really could not be subtle at all, and the first half of the movie just felt like a mess of stuff, until they finally purged a lot of useless stuff going into the better second half. The dialogue was also consistently terrible and the film felt cheap and campy a lot of the time. Very few of the characters had time to develop their motivations at all, so a lot of things just seemed to happen. I'm pretty bummed out.

    Also,
    They had a black mutant just to kill him off right away again, which sort of pissed me off.

    Magneto's entire character ended up coming from Sebastian Shaw, which bothered me quite a bit. Azazel felt like the only reason he was in the movie at all was so that Magneto could teleport away at the very end of the final battle. They spent so much time half developing a bunch of characters that ended up either dying or not doing anything, that everyone else got short-shifted. The prof x and magneto relationship suffered the most, but next to that banshee and havok got even less initial character set-up than Darwin and Angel. That one scene where all the kids showed their powers off to eachother was just terrible, and then Darwin dies a few minutes later and that Angel girl never really talks again.

    The CIA plot never really came together, we never found out exactly what the deal on Shaw was for the FBI or why he was able to double-deal so freely the way he was.

    I know, by not liking it I will suck, but I thought it was pretty terrible.

    Though I think a lot of your criticisms are valid I disagree with your point about Magneto. His motivations were completely driven by his childhood experiences. Shaw was just a physical representation of that history - that just makes it easier for the purposes of the film.

    I liked the film a lot - though it did have some bumps. I'll spoiler the rest:
    For one I didn't think they did a good job of making Erik and Xavier equals. It always seemed like Xavier had the leadership role and influence over the whole team - Erik included. It would've been nice to see Erik put some influence on Xavier as well. Maybe have Xavier be a bit of a naive optimist but ultimately have Erik pull him a bit more towards reality.

    On a more nit-picky front I hated the representation of Havok's power. The fact that he had to do that little hulahoop motion with his hips was really silly.

    Finally, the whole film felt too compressed. There just wasn't enough time for the characters to really deal with what was coming at them. For example, Hank (from a character perspective) should've been pretty traumatized by his transformation. Further to that, Mystique leaving with Magneto and even Angel's betrayal all felt out of character - even with the writers explicitly trying to give them motivations.
    Still, it felt like Magneto was picking up the mantle from shaw rather than being his own man. Really, that's just another way that it felt like they missed the mark on Magneto, because I agree with you about his relationship with Xavier. Still, rather than literally picking up Shaw's crown and his crew, I would have preferred nearly anything. It makes no sense for him to so easily step into the role of the man he hated with so few changes.

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  • RansRans Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I watched Green Lantern: Emerald Knights last night. I thought it was overall better in quality than First Flight and the stories mostly stayed pretty close to their comics inspiration. The animation for the Laira fight scenes were particularly good.

    Rans on
  • LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Emerald Knights is surprisingly enjoyable.

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Yeah I loved Emerald Knights.

    My favorites were probably Killowog and Lyra.

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  • LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Rowdy Roddy Piper for best VA work.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Am I the only one here who lives in Boston? If not, Free Screening of Green Lantern at the Boston Common AMC.

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  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    It's true, you are the only living person left in Boston.

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  • cshadow42cshadow42 Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I just saw Ghost Rider on Netflix.

    It was...ugh. So...cheesy. And bad... And it wasn't just the CGI-Skull...I was willing to forgive that. But the script was just god-awful.

    And they're making a sequel. With Nicholas Cage again. In 3-D...

    Why?

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    cshadow42 wrote: »
    I just saw Ghost Rider on Netflix.

    It was...ugh. So...cheesy. And bad... And it wasn't just the CGI-Skull...I was willing to forgive that. But the script was just god-awful.

    And they're making a sequel. With Nicholas Cage again. In 3-D...

    Why?

    The why is easy. So the rights don't go back to Marvel.

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    I finally saw first class, and did not care for it.

    It really could not be subtle at all, and the first half of the movie just felt like a mess of stuff, until they finally purged a lot of useless stuff going into the better second half. The dialogue was also consistently terrible and the film felt cheap and campy a lot of the time. Very few of the characters had time to develop their motivations at all, so a lot of things just seemed to happen. I'm pretty bummed out.

    Also,
    They had a black mutant just to kill him off right away again, which sort of pissed me off.

    Magneto's entire character ended up coming from Sebastian Shaw, which bothered me quite a bit. Azazel felt like the only reason he was in the movie at all was so that Magneto could teleport away at the very end of the final battle. They spent so much time half developing a bunch of characters that ended up either dying or not doing anything, that everyone else got short-shifted. The prof x and magneto relationship suffered the most, but next to that banshee and havok got even less initial character set-up than Darwin and Angel. That one scene where all the kids showed their powers off to eachother was just terrible, and then Darwin dies a few minutes later and that Angel girl never really talks again.

    The CIA plot never really came together, we never found out exactly what the deal on Shaw was for the FBI or why he was able to double-deal so freely the way he was.

    I know, by not liking it I will suck, but I thought it was pretty terrible.

    Though I think a lot of your criticisms are valid I disagree with your point about Magneto. His motivations were completely driven by his childhood experiences. Shaw was just a physical representation of that history - that just makes it easier for the purposes of the film.

    I liked the film a lot - though it did have some bumps. I'll spoiler the rest:
    For one I didn't think they did a good job of making Erik and Xavier equals. It always seemed like Xavier had the leadership role and influence over the whole team - Erik included. It would've been nice to see Erik put some influence on Xavier as well. Maybe have Xavier be a bit of a naive optimist but ultimately have Erik pull him a bit more towards reality.

    On a more nit-picky front I hated the representation of Havok's power. The fact that he had to do that little hulahoop motion with his hips was really silly.

    Finally, the whole film felt too compressed. There just wasn't enough time for the characters to really deal with what was coming at them. For example, Hank (from a character perspective) should've been pretty traumatized by his transformation. Further to that, Mystique leaving with Magneto and even Angel's betrayal all felt out of character - even with the writers explicitly trying to give them motivations.
    Still, it felt like Magneto was picking up the mantle from shaw rather than being his own man. Really, that's just another way that it felt like they missed the mark on Magneto, because I agree with you about his relationship with Xavier. Still, rather than literally picking up Shaw's crown and his crew, I would have preferred nearly anything. It makes no sense for him to so easily step into the role of the man he hated with so few changes.

    I really liked the movie, but I do agree with this. It's one of the rare times when I think that stretching out the movie into two would have done it wonders.
    This way, Magneto's turn wouldn't be so sudden. Also, I really liked Charles in an actiony role, wish I don't think we'll see in the next one(if there's one)

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  • Diablo FettDiablo Fett Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    cshadow42 wrote: »
    I just saw Ghost Rider on Netflix.

    It was...ugh. So...cheesy. And bad... And it wasn't just the CGI-Skull...I was willing to forgive that. But the script was just god-awful.

    And they're making a sequel. With Nicholas Cage again. In 3-D...

    Why?

    Nic Cage is coming back but pretty everything else about it is different and better. story by Goyer, going for a hard R-rating, and directed by the dudes who made the Crank movies

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  • cshadow42cshadow42 Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    cshadow42 wrote: »
    I just saw Ghost Rider on Netflix.

    It was...ugh. So...cheesy. And bad... And it wasn't just the CGI-Skull...I was willing to forgive that. But the script was just god-awful.

    And they're making a sequel. With Nicholas Cage again. In 3-D...

    Why?

    Nic Cage is coming back but pretty everything else about it is different and better. story by Goyer, going for a hard R-rating, and directed by the dudes who made the Crank movies

    Hmm...I'm still not going to get my hopes up.

    I still need to see Punisher: War Zone though. The John Travolta one was myeh-ish.

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  • DrIanMalcolmDrIanMalcolm Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Yeah the new Ghost Rider sounds like it'll at least be infinitely more interesting

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    cshadow42 wrote: »
    I just saw Ghost Rider on Netflix.

    It was...ugh. So...cheesy. And bad... And it wasn't just the CGI-Skull...I was willing to forgive that. But the script was just god-awful.

    And they're making a sequel. With Nicholas Cage again. In 3-D...

    Why?

    Nic Cage is coming back but pretty everything else about it is different and better. story by Goyer, going for a hard R-rating, and directed by the dudes who made the Crank movies

    I wouldn't exactly call Goyer and the dudes from the Crank movie better

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  • GankGank Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I would. Having worked at a cinema when Ghost Rider was playing, forced to watch it over and over and over, I definitely, definitely would.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Watched Emerald Knight yesterday, it was ok. Not as good as Crisis on Two Earths or Under the Red Hood. It was better than All-Star Superman though.

    Animation was somewhat cheap and it suffered from the same thing JLU did in terms of doing very little constructs, but the voice acting, with the exception of Kilowog, was spot-on. When I think Kilowog I think the Arishok from Dragon Age 2, not Henry Rollins going a little deeper on his voice. Some of the character redesigns were weird, Atrocitus being the biggest example. And I wonder why they didn't keep Kilowog's instructor as R Lee Ermey.

    On the plus side though, the Guardians weren't complete idiots like they usually are in the books, and Arisia was a delightful pov character.

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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I liked first class. It wasn't perfect, but it was certainly better than x-men 3 and wolverine, and hopefully they stick to not being fucking stupid. There was a lot compressed in there, but I think it was somewhat necessary to reset the base level so they can go anywhere with the movies from here on out.

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  • Diablo FettDiablo Fett Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    noir_blood wrote: »
    cshadow42 wrote: »
    I just saw Ghost Rider on Netflix.

    It was...ugh. So...cheesy. And bad... And it wasn't just the CGI-Skull...I was willing to forgive that. But the script was just god-awful.

    And they're making a sequel. With Nicholas Cage again. In 3-D...

    Why?

    Nic Cage is coming back but pretty everything else about it is different and better. story by Goyer, going for a hard R-rating, and directed by the dudes who made the Crank movies

    I wouldn't exactly call Goyer and the dudes from the Crank movie better

    Goyer's shown he's a great idea man as long as he has supervision

    and if you are badmouthing Crank well then there is just no dealing with you

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  • DistramDistram __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2011
    Why is Parallax a cloud? What is Hollywood's obsession with evil clouds?

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Distram wrote: »
    Why is Parallax a cloud? What is Hollywood's obsession with evil clouds?

    Parallax has to be a cloud so we can answer the age-old question: Who would win in a fight, movie Galactus or movie Parallax?

    (Only one of them has time to prepare).

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Anyone else get the Rise of the Manhunters game? I snagged it for PS3 and its actually not that bad. Its like playing God of War with Green Lanterns. Your primary attack is a close-range sword construct. You can also use a heavy construct which is a fist.

    Later you're able to get more powerful constructs, such as a Gatling Gun, a buzz-saw, a baseball bat and a bunch of other stuff. Its actually a pretty enjoyable game for a movie tie in. I had very low expectations and I've been pleasantly surprised.

    I mean, its not perfect by any means, but it isn't terrible either. The level design is pretty bland, and they recycle a ton of enemies, but those are pretty minor complaints. Overall I'm enjoying it quite a bit.

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I'm kind of curious about the versions for the Wii, DS, and 3DS by griptonite.

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  • LuxLux Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    X-Men First Class
    Was I the only one that thought, just for a second, that they were going for some racial shit when Angel & Darwin defected? "We don't belong here." Uh-oh.

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Lux wrote: »
    X-Men First Class
    Was I the only one that thought, just for a second, that they were going for some racial shit when Angel & Darwin defected? "We don't belong here." Uh-oh.

    Not only did I think that, but I was absolutely dumbfounded by it.
    No matter what they did, it would have felt awkward. The only two minority X-Men defect, and then even though Darwin is trying to pull a save, the dude just gets slaughtered right away. So out the two minority X-Men who I was most interested to see and learn about, one was straight up dead and the other was only really used again for a so-so action scene. We're stuck with the tried and true obvious picks for the rest of the film.

    That kind of bugged me to all hell, and it was the culmination of my problems with the first half of the movie, which just felt like an incredible mess of random ideas. It was like they hit a wall and needed that massive purge of the CIA and the unknown characters and the spy/recon work just to progress at all with the story.

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  • LordSolarMachariusLordSolarMacharius Red wine with fish Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    ...That kind of bugged me to all hell, and it was the culmination of my problems with the first half of the movie, which just felt like an incredible mess of random ideas. It was like they hit a wall and needed that massive purge of the CIA and the unknown characters and the spy/recon work just to progress at all with the story.

    IIRC, they took scripts for an "early X-Men" film and for an "Origins: Magneto" film and beat them together. Which is probably why it feels like there's so much going on at the beginning - it might literally be the set-up scenes for two movies.

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  • RansRans Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    Anyone else get the Rise of the Manhunters game? I snagged it for PS3 and its actually not that bad. Its like playing God of War with Green Lanterns. Your primary attack is a close-range sword construct. You can also use a heavy construct which is a fist.

    Later you're able to get more powerful constructs, such as a Gatling Gun, a buzz-saw, a baseball bat and a bunch of other stuff. Its actually a pretty enjoyable game for a movie tie in. I had very low expectations and I've been pleasantly surprised.

    I mean, its not perfect by any means, but it isn't terrible either. The level design is pretty bland, and they recycle a ton of enemies, but those are pretty minor complaints. Overall I'm enjoying it quite a bit.

    Yeah, I agree with this assessment. Also got if for PS3 and have been enjoying it. I'm not very far in but I'm also liking some of the shout outs to the comics.

    Rans on
  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I dug the first Ghost Rider movie because Nic Cage

    If Nic Cage is in something, I am going to be entertained

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