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So I'm shopping around for a new laptop. Decent gaming power is a requirement, but it doesn't have to be a beast. The ability to play WoW, EvE, and maybe Diablo 3 when it comes out would be perfect. However, it's something that I'll be schlepping with me every day to class, work, and court, so it must have good battery life and be reasonably lightweight. Looking to spend around $1000.'
So far the only system I've seen that MAYBE fits the bill is the Dell XPS 15z. Any other suggestions?
Do you really need to be able to play those games on the go, or is this going to be your only computer and you need to make sure it plays those games regardless?
Skoal Cat is correct; unless you need portability and power in the same machine, a netbook and a desktop together will get you more performance, more battery power, more portability, and more keyboards for the same price.
Skoal Cat is correct; unless you need portability and power in the same machine, a netbook and a desktop together will get you more performance, more battery power, more portability, and more keyboards for the same price.
Alienware M11x? Should run those games decently. Anything else I can think of is well out of your price range (or is either not good for gaming, or in no way portable).
Skoal Cat is correct; unless you need portability and power in the same machine, a netbook and a desktop together will get you more performance, more battery power, more portability, and more keyboards for the same price.
I already have a decent home system, and I've gone the Netbook route but really would like something with a little more power. This doesn't need to be my primary PC, but I'd rather it have decent GPU if possible.
In terms of weight and battery life, this is the best in class.
Gaming laptop pretty much means not an apple.
Well, for these purposes (decent for gaming and mega portable), the 15" Macbook Pro would fit the bill quite nicely. They can handle games pretty well, are pretty damn slim, and have top notch battery life. But, it's also well above the budget
In terms of weight and battery life, this is the best in class.
Gaming laptop pretty much means not an apple.
gaming laptop pretty much means not highly portable.
you can get power in a desktop, but a laptop that's not portable is pointless
It depends on your definition of gaming laptop I suppose. if you want to be able to max out the graphics in every game for the next few years sure. However if you just want to be able to play everything that comes out for 3 years or so on medium-ish settings with decent fps there's no problem getting a card that can do that into a portable 15"
It's really not. I think it's just about perfect for a desktop replacement, as long as you get a Mac or one of the newer "thin and light" models that have been coming out lately. Obviously, if you want performance and portability at the same time you're going to have to shell out. And unfortunately there just aren't many 13" models with decent graphics.
Besides, OP seems to think it's a reasonable option. Not everyone has exactly the same needs and desires as you.
I've never really seen the appeal of anything smaller than 15", wooo it's super portable hurray, but it's also too small to work effectively on =/ Of course i'm a pretty big guy and to this day find 17" to be the sweet spot and carry one with me everywhere so I may be biased.
Just as an aside, for you Mac gamers, how do you deal with the traditional "most games are not designed for Macs" problem? Do you dual boot? I've been out of gaming for 3-4 years and neither were great options back then. I don't seek out Mac games anymore, but I can't remember the last time I saw a good range of Mac games or a cheap back catalogue.
With Valve and Blizzard games offering native support for OSX, and Boot Camp being there for anything else you might want to play, it's not an issue at all.
With Valve and Blizzard games offering native support for OSX, and Boot Camp being there for anything else you might want to play, it's not an issue at all.
It really just depends on your expectations. You won't get the same results as a self-built gaming desktop. For the hardcore PC gamer, it doesn't make much sense. For the "not hardcore" PC gamer, it works pretty well. Like you said, Valve and Blizzard's games all run natively in OS X now. In my case, those two developers alone make up for the vast majority of my interest in PC gaming. And even on my Macbook with a 9400m (integrated graphics), I can play the games from those developers pretty comfortably. Starcraft 2 even runs reliably at low-medium settings. If I didn't have a gaming desktop, I'd be using Bootcamp to handle the rest.
That said, you'd have to be a decently casual PC gamer to use a 13" Macbook Pro as your only source of PC gaming. It can be done surprisingly well, but it isn't optimal. A 15" version would handle it pretty well. And I'd say they're still very portable, from what I've experienced with them. They aren't exactly your typical 15" HP clunker. But, again, that goes well beyond the OP's budget.
For the OP, I'd still say the M11x is the ideal solution. Anything else will either cost more, or will sacrifice mobility or power too much.
Save up for when the Razer Switchblade comes out - that looks to be about as portable as you can get for a gaming machine. Alternatively, the Alienware M11x is also highly portable and highly powerful.
I've recently picked up (i.e. i ordered it yesterday) a Dell XPS 17, and though it's pretty large, its brethren (like the 15z) are moreso, and all are very powerful. Plus, there's loads of discounting going on, at least for the 17. I got a £1, 210 machine for £839 with free shipping, so you should definitely try to shop around at Dell.
As for your choice, the Dell XPs 15z, it got a very positive writeup from Engadget. For a machine of that form factor to be able to run Batman: Arkham Asylum in windowed mode, eight browser tabs and three simultaneous 1080p trailers for The Dark Knight before it starts to slow down is pretty damn awesome.
Save up for when the Razer Switchblade comes out - that looks to be about as portable as you can get for a gaming machine. Alternatively, the Alienware M11x is also highly portable and highly powerful.
I've recently picked up (i.e. i ordered it yesterday) a Dell XPS 17, and though it's pretty large, its brethren (like the 15z) are moreso, and all are very powerful. Plus, there's loads of discounting going on, at least for the 17. I got a £1, 210 machine for £839 with free shipping, so you should definitely try to shop around at Dell.
As for your choice, the Dell XPs 15z, it got a very positive writeup from Engadget. For a machine of that form factor to be able to run Batman: Arkham Asylum in windowed mode, eight browser tabs and three simultaneous 1080p trailers for The Dark Knight before it starts to slow down is pretty damn awesome.
interesting
I was looking at the new xps range too, as it did not seem that the dedicated gaming machines that were in the same price band -800 to 1500 were not a lot better.
Well, you can spec an M11x to oblivion to get the best stuff money can buy into it, but it still won't have a disc drive (which might be necessary if you don't use digital distribution methods like Steam and Impulse). I'd personally recommend the XPS 15z to you to cut a compromise between gaming xen and portability.
Has anyone used the custom laptop maker services? I've been looking at a place in the UK that makes it seem like I could get a nice looking machine for about 1500 inc VAT - i7, high end card (Nvidia GTX470M), SSD drive, HD 17.3 in (1920x1080) screen. That looks, on paper, way better than the same cost ASUS or Dell Alienware
Honestly, WoW is not resource intensive by any stretch of the imagination. I played WoW on my iBook G3 without much problem, and I can play it now on my $200 netbook. I doubt that D3 is going to depart from Blizzard's ideology of making games that run on old ass computers, so I'd reckon that anything that can run Starcraft 2 will run D3. Including EVE's and Starcraft 2's requirement, all you need is something north of an 8800GT and a dual core precessor.
You biggest problem is going to be that anything better than a GT 335M is going to be over five pounds, and that's really not going to be portable.
That'll show you the average FPS on most recent games; I'd pick whatever the cheapest, lightest laptop you can find that will play SC2 at 30-40FPS on high.
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This, a hundred times.
I already have a decent home system, and I've gone the Netbook route but really would like something with a little more power. This doesn't need to be my primary PC, but I'd rather it have decent GPU if possible.
The Alienware M11X looks temping actually.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC374LL/A?mco=MTgwOTc3Mjg
In terms of weight and battery life, this is the best in class.
Gaming laptop pretty much means not an apple.
If the president had any real power, he'd be able to live wherever the fuck he wanted.
Well, for these purposes (decent for gaming and mega portable), the 15" Macbook Pro would fit the bill quite nicely. They can handle games pretty well, are pretty damn slim, and have top notch battery life. But, it's also well above the budget
gaming laptop pretty much means not highly portable.
you can get power in a desktop, but a laptop that's not portable is pointless
It depends on your definition of gaming laptop I suppose. if you want to be able to max out the graphics in every game for the next few years sure. However if you just want to be able to play everything that comes out for 3 years or so on medium-ish settings with decent fps there's no problem getting a card that can do that into a portable 15"
by all means get a "gaming laptop" but the battery, size, weight, heat etc. are all going to limit its portability
not to mention the price tag
Besides, OP seems to think it's a reasonable option. Not everyone has exactly the same needs and desires as you.
It really just depends on your expectations. You won't get the same results as a self-built gaming desktop. For the hardcore PC gamer, it doesn't make much sense. For the "not hardcore" PC gamer, it works pretty well. Like you said, Valve and Blizzard's games all run natively in OS X now. In my case, those two developers alone make up for the vast majority of my interest in PC gaming. And even on my Macbook with a 9400m (integrated graphics), I can play the games from those developers pretty comfortably. Starcraft 2 even runs reliably at low-medium settings. If I didn't have a gaming desktop, I'd be using Bootcamp to handle the rest.
That said, you'd have to be a decently casual PC gamer to use a 13" Macbook Pro as your only source of PC gaming. It can be done surprisingly well, but it isn't optimal. A 15" version would handle it pretty well. And I'd say they're still very portable, from what I've experienced with them. They aren't exactly your typical 15" HP clunker. But, again, that goes well beyond the OP's budget.
For the OP, I'd still say the M11x is the ideal solution. Anything else will either cost more, or will sacrifice mobility or power too much.
I've recently picked up (i.e. i ordered it yesterday) a Dell XPS 17, and though it's pretty large, its brethren (like the 15z) are moreso, and all are very powerful. Plus, there's loads of discounting going on, at least for the 17. I got a £1, 210 machine for £839 with free shipping, so you should definitely try to shop around at Dell.
As for your choice, the Dell XPs 15z, it got a very positive writeup from Engadget. For a machine of that form factor to be able to run Batman: Arkham Asylum in windowed mode, eight browser tabs and three simultaneous 1080p trailers for The Dark Knight before it starts to slow down is pretty damn awesome.
interesting
I was looking at the new xps range too, as it did not seem that the dedicated gaming machines that were in the same price band -800 to 1500 were not a lot better.
You biggest problem is going to be that anything better than a GT 335M is going to be over five pounds, and that's really not going to be portable.
Whatever you decide to look at, check out http://www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of-Laptop-Graphics-Cards.130.0.html
That'll show you the average FPS on most recent games; I'd pick whatever the cheapest, lightest laptop you can find that will play SC2 at 30-40FPS on high.