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[Breath of Fire] BoF 6: Capcom Destroys Another Beloved Franchise!

GroveGrove Los AngelesRegistered User regular
edited August 2013 in Games and Technology
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Breath of Fire IV is a jrpg developed by Capcom and released on the PS1 in 2000. It's the fourth game of the BoF series and in my opinion the best.

It also happens to be coming to PSN in less than a week! 8-16-11

So here's a thread celebrating one of my all time favorite JRPG's.

Characters:

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Ryu is the main character of the story. A warrior with amnesia who is found in the desert by a princess after she and her bodyguard are attacked by a dragon. Ryu is a silent protagonist who has the mysterious ability to transform into dragons.

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Nina is a princess from the kingdom of Wyndia on a mission to find her missing sister. A powerful magic user who aids Ryu as they both try to uncover the truth behind her sisters disappearance and Ryu's unique powers.

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Cray is Nina's bodyguard and member of the fierce Woren tribe. Hot tempered but loyal, he is the big bruiser of the cast. He also is in love with Nina's missing sister.

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Scias is a reserved mercenary and master swordsman. He's willing to do most things for money, but not everything. Powerful and agile in combat, yet quiet and unassuming. He's always been a favorite of mine and his attack animations are fantastic.

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Ershin refers to a mysterious armor that joins Ryu's party. It has a strange personality but is a loyal companion that holds its own secrets. Ershin starts off slow but is a powerful warrior with many amazing abilities.

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Ursula is a fiery soldier of the empire that joins Ryu in his quest. She wields a gun and a quick tongue while aiding Ryu and friends in infiltrating the empire.

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Fou lu is the games protagonist and antagonist. He is a god who has been awakened after centuries of sleep and can control and turn into dragons much like Ryu. The player will control Fou lu at regular intervals during the game, but his quest is on the opposite of the world from Ryu...

Gameplay:

It's a traditional JRPG with a few twists. 6 party members can be in battle, though only 3 participate. However you can swap anyone out mid battle and the back row fighters can be healed and protected from attacks/status changes. There is also an apprentice system wherein each character can study under a master. These masters are spread out all over the world and give various stat boosts.

There is an interesting combo system involving magic. More powerful spells can be combined based on a set order and unique attacks can be created. Ryu and Fou lu can turn into dragons and unleash devastating attacks. There are also 7 dragon summons to find to aid your quest. Each party member has special abilities and attacks unique to them.

There is also a fishing mini game which grants huge item bonuses and a faerie village that will again turn out amazing items.

Misc:

The art is amazing in my opinion. I love the character designs. The battle music is fantastic and the story is great. If you can get your hands on the artbook it's really outstanding.

The game is being released on PSN Aug. 16 for $9.99 I believe. Totally worth the price.

If you're looking for a solid, well made JRPG look no further. It's an amazing game with a great adventure. A lot of people like BoF III but for me IV is without question the best. Both are great.

Intro Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM2ITOQvzps


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  • RubycatRubycat Registered User regular
    I had 3 for PS1, wasn't there a BOF 5 as well?

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  • BigDesBigDes Registered User regular
    Yeah BOF V Dragon Quarter for the PS2

    I have to say that BoF IV has some utterly beautiful spriteart

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  • GroveGrove Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    Rubycat wrote:
    I had 3 for PS1, wasn't there a BOF 5 as well?

    Yeah I think it was on the PS2. I never played it but I heard it departed from the series quite a bit. I think it also had some death gimmick or something. I liked 1-3 and loved 4. Watched some videos on 5 and wasn't impressed.

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  • FireflashFireflash Montreal, QCRegistered User regular
    I don't think I ever played 4. I remember 3 mostly as a challenging and sometimes painful game to play, in and out of combat. Definitely not the kind of game where you just breeze through fight after fight... There was a desert you had to figure out how to get through and I think there was an error in one of the directions making it even harder. Also a lighthouse where you had to figure out the right combination of switches spread out across multiple floors with random encounters. Yet the game was still cool and had it's unique charms. It's a kind of love/hate for me.

    I might look into BoF4, it's been a while since I played a good jrpg.

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  • RubycatRubycat Registered User regular
    The beginning of the second act in 3 was like my frustrating wall (Zombie Dragon).

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  • GroveGrove Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    Yeah as far as I recall there's nothing like that in IV but it does provide an appropriate challenge level. It's been a few years but I recall the leveling system allows you to get a few levels ahead but significantly decreases experience gain if you're in low level areas. You can grind but not all day.

    The sprite work in IV is fantastic. The enemies are great.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    BoF IV is a very pretty game that runs like ass.

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  • GroveGrove Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    The game does not run like ass.

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    So I take it this is just going to be a straight port of the PSX game, and not something where Capcom takes its time and redoes the translation to make it not an ellipses-filled rushjob?

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  • BigDesBigDes Registered User regular
    It'll be like all ps1 games on the PSN I imagine, so the ellipses filled rushjob

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    I started playing BoF IV on Grove's recommendation more than 5 years ago (jesus I'm getting old). I put it down at some point and never got back to it.

    I'm determined to buy it on PSN, put it on my PSP, and play the hell out of it.

    I definitely remember the awesome music and combat animations.

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  • ScosglenScosglen Registered User regular
    BoF 4 has some of the best spritework in any game ever made.

    It's also easily one of the very best looking PSX games in terms of art direction.

    The combat is an evolved version of BoF III, with some interesting twists in terms of comboing moves together to create interesting and powerful attacks/effects, and being able to use your entire party at once in combat by switching out the front lines.

    I recommend this game.

  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    I think I remember Priscilla having the ability to either provide firing support from the back row, or having a chance to dupe an item before using it if she was on the frontlines.

    Pretty amazing.

  • EvilMonkeyEvilMonkey Registered User regular
    I never picked up BoF4 because I never finished BoF3 and now I can't remember why. Did 3 have a soul crushingly high random encounter rate like Wild Arms?

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  • tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    I still have my old copy of BoF IV. :(

    awesome game. wish there was a 360 port .

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  • BigDesBigDes Registered User regular
    EvilMonkey wrote:
    I never picked up BoF4 because I never finished BoF3 and now I can't remember why. Did 3 have a soul crushingly high random encounter rate like Wild Arms?

    Yeah and the PSP version is loading loading loading loading

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    Breath of Fire III was my favorite in the series, and I liked IV as well, though I never beat it. I guess now's the time to go back and revisit IV and maybe break out GameFAQs so I can actually muscle through it this time.

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  • EvilMonkeyEvilMonkey Registered User regular
    BigDes wrote:
    EvilMonkey wrote:
    I never picked up BoF4 because I never finished BoF3 and now I can't remember why. Did 3 have a soul crushingly high random encounter rate like Wild Arms?

    Yeah and the PSP version is loading loading loading loading
    Did they ease up on that for 4? (The encounter rate, I'd be playing on a Go so hopefully that would help any potential loading issues).

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  • GroveGrove Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    edited August 2011
    Yeah I don't remember the encounter rate being insane or anything like that in IV. You definitely fight, but I don't recall it being annoying.

    Also yeah I think Ershin can randomly fire from the back row and Ursula can replicate used items if my memory is correct.

    And most of Scias' weapons have double cut which is awesome when combined with his high agility.

    Love that there are two different main battle themes for Ryu and Fou lu.

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  • RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    Grove wrote:
    Rubycat wrote:
    I had 3 for PS1, wasn't there a BOF 5 as well?

    Yeah I think it was on the PS2. I never played it but I heard it departed from the series quite a bit. I think it also had some death gimmick or something. I liked 1-3 and loved 4. Watched some videos on 5 and wasn't impressed.

    Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter is one of the best games ever made. It's drastically different than BoF1-4 though.

    I don't think I ever finished BoF4. My main recollections of it are that it's basically BoF3 with a different plot and characters (which isn't a bad thing). A few things are better, a few things are worse, and the 2D art remains great.

  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    Oh this makes me excited...

    Then I forgot that I'm unemployed again. :(

  • BuraisuBuraisu Psychomancer Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    I own Breath of Fire V: Dragon Quarter, I didn't like it much. If I remember right, you slowly die over time and if you die for any reason then you gotta start over. When you start over, I believe, you get to keep all accumulated items, equipment, and skills . Also, the game is located underground in mines and your goal is to climb up and out of the underground.

    Also, most saving is temporary so you can't cheat death and death is an important part of the game. So if you like death having a purpose, this is the game for you.

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  • Orochi_RockmanOrochi_Rockman __BANNED USERS regular
    If my psp hadn't stopped reading memory cards, I'd be all over this. Even in its edited and ellipses filled glory.

  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    How many times will I have to buy this off the PSN before Capcom decides to take the IP out of cold storage and craft a new game?
    Grove wrote:
    Rubycat wrote:
    I had 3 for PS1, wasn't there a BOF 5 as well?

    Yeah I think it was on the PS2. I never played it but I heard it departed from the series quite a bit. I think it also had some death gimmick or something. I liked 1-3 and loved 4. Watched some videos on 5 and wasn't impressed.

    Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter is one of the best games ever made. It's drastically different than BoF1-4 though.

    I'm glad I am not the only person that has this opinion.
    Buraisu wrote:
    I own Breath of Fire V: Dragon Quarter, I didn't like it much. If I remember right, you slowly die over time and if you die for any reason then you gotta start over. When you start over, I believe, you get to keep all accumulated items, equipment, and skills . Also, the game is located underground in mines and your goal is to climb up and out of the underground.

    Also, most saving is temporary so you can't cheat death and death is an important part of the game. So if you like death having a purpose, this is the game for you.

    No cheating death but there are a bunch of different exploits you can take advantage of.

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  • TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    I loved the shit out of BoF3. Thought it was the best rpg on the system. Never played 4, as after 3 I found ways to play 1 and 2 and didn't like. Didn't 4 get bad reviews? Something turned me off from it

  • SyphyreSyphyre A Dangerous Pastime Registered User regular
    BoF 4 was the best BoF game in my opinion. Beautiful artwork and music (the battle theme on the "eastern" side is fantastic for starters). The Master system is much better than BoF 3's (while still being useful). The in battle magic combo system is neat. And of course BoF 4 has ERSHIN, who is a very nifty character. I fully intend to play my entire way through BoF4 again. Heck I have my original PSX disk around at home still...

    The dual storyline (though you don't really spend THAT much time with Fou-Lu) is fun too, and gives you good backstory and plot without it being boring cutscene.

  • CorporateLogoCorporateLogo The toilet knows how I feelRegistered User regular
    edited August 2011
    In Dragon Quarter you weren't necessarily dying over the course of the game

    You had a percentage that went up every time that you used the dragon abilities, but it increased very slowly otherwise

    Once that hits 100% you died (which is likely to happen the first time around)

    Also, regarding the ending,
    I'm fairly certain I remember the ending required you to get the percent to 100 fighting Bosch after he turned into the dragon

    Never played 4, never heard or saw much about it beyond the character designs, to be honest

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    I never owned a PSX and never played BoF 3 or 4, but I was always a huge fan of the original BoF on SNES. The one that was co-developed by Square and Capcom. BoF2 was alright although the characters in it didn't leave as much of a lasting impression.

    Do the PSX games include the dragon transformations and character combinations that were in the SNES games? As a kid, I loved the idea of the main hero being able to become a dragon, and Karn's ability to fuse party members together into ultra warriors was awesome.

  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    I always liked BoF. I was amazed that Dragon Quest kept going but BoF didn't.

  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    Oh man...BoF4 was my favorite of the series. I never got to finish it because my data got corrupted and I lost the original...definitely picking this one up.

  • LovelyLovely Registered User regular
    Aaah, yeah, Breath of Fire IV was a wonderful game. Beautiful art style, and a fun battle system where you could switch characters in and out without penalties. Well. If I'm recalling correctly. The story was pretty enjoyable as well. Though, it did get depressing at times.

    I remember back in the day, that I had I bought BoFIV after rage quitting and trading in Dragon Quest VII. Doing so was one of the better decisions I had ever made.

    Though, part of my wonderful feelings for BoFIV could possibly be because I hated DQVII so much.... Eh, well, regardless, BoFIV was good times.

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  • tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    The music was good too. I can still remember many of the tracks, heh.

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  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    Lucascraft wrote:
    I never owned a PSX and never played BoF 3 or 4, but I was always a huge fan of the original BoF on SNES. The one that was co-developed by Square and Capcom. BoF2 was alright although the characters in it didn't leave as much of a lasting impression.

    Do the PSX games include the dragon transformations and character combinations that were in the SNES games? As a kid, I loved the idea of the main hero being able to become a dragon, and Karn's ability to fuse party members together into ultra warriors was awesome.

    I believe you're more limited in how often and for how long you can be a dragon than in the first three, and there is no fusing.

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    Septus wrote:
    Lucascraft wrote:
    I never owned a PSX and never played BoF 3 or 4, but I was always a huge fan of the original BoF on SNES. The one that was co-developed by Square and Capcom. BoF2 was alright although the characters in it didn't leave as much of a lasting impression.

    Do the PSX games include the dragon transformations and character combinations that were in the SNES games? As a kid, I loved the idea of the main hero being able to become a dragon, and Karn's ability to fuse party members together into ultra warriors was awesome.

    I believe you're more limited in how often and for how long you can be a dragon than in the first three, and there is no fusing.

    Hmm. Those things seem like series staples to me. How can they call it a Breath of Fire game without them?

  • IceBurnerIceBurner It's cold and there are penguins.Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    Ah, Breath of Fire III and IV. Two extremely fun fishing games with some kind of dragon story thrown in as a bonus.

    ... what?

    All kidding aside, the fishing minigames from BoF 3 and 4 are more fun than any game in the actual fishing genre, and better executed, plus more-entertaining than many whole games of other genres.

    And now for Breath of Fire IV bullet points!

    - In Breath of Fire III, the story is very lighthearted,, whereas Breath of Fire IV goes the opposite route down a pretty dark path.

    - Four is more refined in all aspects: music, graphics, combat and other game mechanics, etc. It does however, lack the detailed world map of previous games. It sports a literal cartographer's map with all places represented by waypoints connected by pre-defined paths.

    - This map still retains the encounter system from BoF III where while moving around Ryu may get a ! overhead. You can then choose whether or not to enter a generic "field" which always has monsters appropriate to the region plus a bag of loot to find.

    - Difficulty is pretty spot-on. The final dungeon is the hardest of all, and does not pull any punches. It's also a fantastic maze while not being unrecognizable or pulling any stupid tricks. It's simply big, full of nasty monsters, and not straightforward.

    - The dragon system is less intricate than three's gene-splicing and staying in dragon form; you "ascend" into "dragon-god" form where you still look like Ryu but with red wings. You're powered up in this form, but still not an actual dragon. From the ascended state it's more akin to BoF 1/2 where selecting a breath attack from your moves turns you into the specified dragon type only while you execute that move.

    - There are also dragon summons where you can call on various dragon gods, one of which was obviously the inspiration for Jhen Mohran in Monster Hunter Tri (I'm pretty sure they had the same designer).

    - Formations from BoF III do not return; instead the character-switching system from BoF I is back! Your full party if available in every battle, three at a time. You can freely switch out active and reserve members in mid-combat to optimize your available abilities every turn. Reserve members slowly recover AP (magic points), and are immune to most damage and status ailments.

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  • SyphyreSyphyre A Dangerous Pastime Registered User regular
    edited August 2011
    From what I remember, I really like this game's portrayal of Nina. She's had several different personalities in the games, but I particularly like this one for some reason. Not to mention she's VERY useful in combat, and doesn't get outclassed like in a couple of other BoFs.

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  • StraygatsbyStraygatsby Registered User regular
    Man I loved IV. Hell, the whole series was way up there in the JRPG continuum. It'd be awesome to see a new title true to the first four (Dragon Quarter being great fun but a little different). I guess you can probably add that idea and the series to the elephant graveyard that is the classic JRPG.

  • El FantasticoEl Fantastico Toronto, ONRegistered User regular
    edited August 2011
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5ayyi5_h2o

    I remember playing this game, beating it and then trying to get all of the rare drops. I never did get the Goo King Sword, but I didn't think it was much better than the best 2-hit sword Ryu could use because of the 2-hit component.

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  • RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    Lucascraft wrote:
    I never owned a PSX and never played BoF 3 or 4, but I was always a huge fan of the original BoF on SNES. The one that was co-developed by Square and Capcom. BoF2 was alright although the characters in it didn't leave as much of a lasting impression.

    Do the PSX games include the dragon transformations and character combinations that were in the SNES games? As a kid, I loved the idea of the main hero being able to become a dragon, and Karn's ability to fuse party members together into ultra warriors was awesome.

    Breath of Fire 3 has the most sophisticated dragon system. You get various dragon genes and by using them in different combinations, you can turn into different dragons (a few of which will combine all of your active members into a single giant creature temporarily). While you're a dragon, your stats change, and you gain access to various spells/abilities, but you have to spend AP each turn to maintain the form.

    Breath of Fire 4's dragon system is kind of like a simplified version of 3. The whole dragon gene combining system is gone, but the actual dragon transformations are handled similarly to 5.

    Breath of Fire 5's dragon system is the one that's best integrated into the story. You know how in most Breath of Fire games, his dragon ability is supposed to be this awe inspiring power that threatens the entire world, but in gameplay terms, it's just another spell? In Dragon Quarter, you get the real deal. In dragon form, you can destroy even bosses with incredible ease, but the amount of time you can be a dragon is limited over the course of the entire game (indicated by a % meter) and if you exceed that amount, it's game over. I think it's a genius idea - you're supposed to be afraid of the dragon power and only use it in emergencies if at all - but many longtime fans of the series hate it.

  • chocoboliciouschocobolicious Registered User regular
    I just want to post two tidbits:

    BoFIV: The dragon system required you played Minigames to unlock points to upgrade forms. This could be good or bad depending on how much you enjoy the minigames.

    BoFV: "In Dragon Quarter you weren't necessarily dying over the course of the game

    You had a percentage that went up every time that you used the dragon abilities, but it increased very slowly otherwise

    Once that hits 100% you died (which is likely to happen the first time around)"

    This is completely false. Getting 100% D-meter erased your save file and you were SoL. You died simply by dying. The dragon form was a get out of jail free card as it could literally 1hit even the last boss. The problem was it was very limited in how often you could use it and abuse of it would quickly see you hitting 100% and losing your save file. Same with the D-Dashing through enemy encounters and such. BoFV was very much the survival horror of RPGs wherein you spent a lot of your time deciding how far your current supplies could get you.

    It was a fantastic game though and I may have to LP it now just to show off how damn great it is. (Or maybe I should LP all of them. I've been considering it, so this thread popping up is kind of motivational.)

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