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[PATV] NEW SHOW! Extra Credits - Pacing
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This.
Also, I liked the Clerks type music. Not a fan of the altered voice though.
On topic, this idea of pacing is very helpful, and I'll probably rewatch it a few times to help with my own endeavors!
But why a topic about the episode is not availabe right under the video? Will I have to walk all the way up to the foruns and look for a topic about the episode to talk about it? :P
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I always thought it was sped up... is that his actual voice?
I think I remember a first episode were he talks about his own voice being too boring so he speeds it up to sound more like Yahtzee of Zero Punctuation fame.
They've said on their twitter feed that hopefully within a week or two this'll happen, the old episodes were encoded differently so they have to be re-rendered.
Also they will be getting an RSS feed, if you're into that.
Ah, I wish he wouldn't speed it up. It makes it strike my eyes as unnatural and personally it ends up grating on me after a bit. Which is a shame, because I end up more focusing on the sound of his voice over what he is actually saying. Its my own personal hang-up, of course.
I really, really didn't like this, and I actually agree with every single point you make objectively, and yet somehow you still come off as super entitled and smug. even to me, Guy Who Agrees With You
From what i can gather. After about 1 year of working for the escapist the EC crew were only payed for 4 episodes out of roughly 52 episodes. They were OK with there pay being on hold for a little while because the escapist was, and i assume, still is in finical trouble.
SO until the escapist payed them James Portnow(Writer for the show, Game Designer, and Professor at Digipen Institute of Technology) payed Allison Theus(Artist for the show and editor, She also free lances for numerous games studios. [She is currently working at Vigil Games]) out of pocket, because her job is the most time consuming.
So that's how things went until late this summer when Allison encounter major arm problems. Simple put she needed surgery or she would lose mobility in her arm. But her insurance claimed it was a "preexisting condition" and wouldn't cover the cost of surgery.
Seeing how none of the crew had been payed by the escapist for about a year at this point non of them had the extra money to help Allison. As a last effort James turned to the EC community for help he setup a fund raiser on rockethub.com(which was suggest by the escapist after kickstarter.com refused to take up there cause).
He set a goal of 15k in 60 days. Enough money to cover the base cost of surgery and by him time to collect more funds. They also offered prizes for different donation amounts. Including publisher cards donated by the escapist(they also offered EC shirts but the EC crew decided it was cheaper to make the shirts them selves).1.5 hours after setting up the fund they reached there goal. Fast forward two weeks and it was almost 100k.
So with the surgery more then covered and a ton of cash remaining the made a plan of what to do with the remaining funds. After talk with the EC community through Facebook and twitter they decided to turn the remaining cash into an Indi-Fund.
The plan was to fund indigames, then split the profit 50/50. The developers get half and the other half went back in the fund. the EC crew wouldn't receive any money from the profits.
OK now that that's out of the way here's where the sh#t hit the fan.
When James first was looking for ways to raise money he went to the escapist to try to collect their debt. they Didn't have it so he suggested the the escapist returned the EC IP in exchange for some of there debt so they could sell there own merchandise and maybe even write a book. The escapist didn't go for it.
The escapist also didn't expect the fundraiser to go so well either. What they believed the extra funds should have gone toward making more EC episodes. They figured that ,sense the fundraiser started from there suggestion and that EC was there IP at the time, they were entitle to 75% of the money raised for Allison and later on the indifund. The 75% happened to be enough to cover the escapist debt to the EC crew. Also the escapist wanted to be paid back for the publisher member cards(about 9.5k).
This was the breaking point. I assume that sense the EC crew was never paid for their work the terms of their contract were broken so their IP was returned and they left the escapist.
after a few weeks and this twitter message from Robert Khoo:
Yo @ExtraCreditz you know my info.
they ending up here.
Will from what I've read on twitter, Facebook, and random forums that"s about what happened.
Oh and Daniel Floyed is the voice co writes and edits Extra Credits(hes also an animator for pixart, and is also known as the re-mixer sephfire on OCRemix.com) hes the only team member i didn't give a description for XD.
This pretty much sums up everything that happened. There was also the matter of the Tshirts offered as prizes. To the extent that the Escapist demanded several thousand back from EC to cover their losses, and said they could keep the rest in leiu of payment.
Eduardo Lawyered up (Facebook movie reference, no one in this situation is actually named Eduardo to the best of my knowledge) and things got dicey, lots of he said she said. As near as I can tell however the contract was found to have been void due to the Escapist failing to pay their wages for a year (current rumor is this is pretty common for alot of the Escapists non-news content contributors, including Yahtzee and Bob) because EC is being hosted elsewhere too soon for it to have gone to actual litigation - Themis Media's legal team must have said 'no contest' and let EC walk with the IP (otherwise they would've been required to contested the move to Youtube and PATV to defend their control of the IP). Dunno what happened to the money though. I assume it's in legal limbo/EC has it.
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Just voiced my opinion. I think the guys from Extra Credits suck, I apologize if that offends you, but I was pretty clear on why I don't like their videos. I do however love Penny Arcade and all things Penny Arcade. I think EC detracts from PA, not sure how that makes me seem entitled.
To this I'd say I'd like to see you do better. They're not specifically pandering to anyone, which is what a lot of media end up doing.
I like their ideas, although I doubt the big game companies will get the message.
Regarding the episode:
Incorrect use of the word Tesselation. I believe you meant Fractal. I am disappoint...somewhat.
Still a great episode. Always love the ideas you bring to the table.
They are guilty of the worst type of pandering... They pander to themselves. Generally a bunch of self-congratulatory nonsense. And objective analysis of the video game industry is not rocket science. Quite often they bemoan the business practices of the publishers while completely glossing over the responsibilities of the people actually making the games. Ignoring the simple economic facts of an industry plagued by substandard product. They talk a lot about creativity and the challenges of being original, but often miss the mark in explaining how gamers and developers alike can work to change things. To me it boils down to misuse of their voice, often times in the guise of charity but almost always taking the form of self-righteous, back patting drivel.