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    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    Antimatter wrote:
    i've read On Writing
    it was helpful insofar as i've tried to eliminate adverbs from my writing

    but yeah i should practice more. i'm just scared i won't like what comes out of my keyboard/pencil/pen.

    this is fine

    as long as you know why you don't like it, and what you'll change about it later

    I wrote a first draft of a script recently where I loathed almost all of the dialogue because it was clunky and uncharacteristic and long

    I didn't stop! I finished the draft, and went back, and kept the essence of the dialogue while changing everything I hated about it and it is now better

    that is the process, go, write and hate what you write, just hate constructively!

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    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    Dubh hi5

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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Also, your first draft, almost without exception, is going to be shit

    unless you've made some pact with Satan

    once it's on paper, you can start the refining process

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    TLHTLH Registered User regular
    I vowed to finish this book I'm writing before my golden year is up. I have 7 days left. I am 50% done.

    I will be done with a draft before the week is up. Yes.




    Hopefully.

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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    I'm fan of The Elements of Style. I still need to read On Writing.

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Dubh wrote:
    I'm fan of The Elements of Style. I still need to read On Writing.

    both of them are basically required reading for writers

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    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    whoa what

    The Elements of Style is three dollars on the Kindle! done and done, amazon

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    Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    Antimatter wrote:
    i've read On Writing
    it was helpful insofar as i've tried to eliminate adverbs from my writing

    but yeah i should practice more. i'm just scared i won't like what comes out of my keyboard/pencil/pen.

    you definitely won't

    this is pretty much 100% guaranteed

    hang on where is that ira glass quote

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    Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    KMBA-Ira+Glass+Quote.png

    probably this had been posted before

    now it's getting posted again, because you can never read it too many times

    (who even is ira glass, anyway)

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    TLHTLH Registered User regular
    edited September 2011
    Hello. I'm Ira Glass, and on This American Life...

    edit
    (NPR. Most subscribed Podcast. Does a sweetheart of an interview with WTF w/ Mark Marion, talking about how he was awful at being a broadcaster when he started. Considered one of the best around now. Talks a lot about finding and pacing beats to a story too.)

    TLH on
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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    right click

    save as

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    edited September 2011
    dude does This American Life

    edit: YOU WILL RUE THIS DAY, @TLH

    Shorty on
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    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    Ira's coming to Melbourne to do a stage show about his time on the radio and doing the TV show and whatnot

    I got tickets about five seconds after they were available

    too excited for words

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    #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    TLH wrote:
    Hello. I'm Ira Glass, and on This American Life...

    Ira_Glass.jpg

    8->

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    TLHTLH Registered User regular
    Had time to post and edit before you there Shorty. Clearly, this day is mine.

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    Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    oh hey I know about that show

    anyway we're talking about endings, you know who can't write endings for shit? China fucking Mieville can't write endings for shit.

    it's sad because you can tell he's really thought carefully about how everything will come together but the dude just has no instinct for it.

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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    I liked Unbreakable a lot, signs not so much I mean the premise was good but really the Aliens "Weakness" was pretty lame.

    Unbreakable or Signs?

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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    love you guys

    thanks for being so helpful

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    TLHTLH Registered User regular
    edited September 2011
    YaYa, that sounds awesome. I would love to see that guy work on stage. Has he done shows that played live in movie houses too?

    e. as in broadcast out in theaters. Simulcast or whatever.

    TLH on
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    chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    Do you know what freaks me out about Ira Glass?

    He looks just like he sounds he should look. That's kinda rare.

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    Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    edited September 2011
    I liked Unbreakable a lot, signs not so much I mean the premise was good but really the Aliens "Weakness" was pretty lame.

    Unbreakable or Signs?

    M. Night Shymalan hates water, apparently.

    Unless there is a lady in it, but that's just because it lets him stroke his ego.

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    TLH wrote:
    Had time to post and edit before you there Shorty. Clearly, this day is mine.

    ummm my edit was before yours

    it says so

    right there

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    #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    chiasaur11 wrote:
    Do you know what freaks me out about Ira Glass?

    He looks just like he sounds he should look. That's kinda rare.

    ha ha I know right?

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    TLHTLH Registered User regular
    Aww piss. I relied on my computer. And my own damn senses.

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    I liked Unbreakable a lot, signs not so much I mean the premise was good but really the Aliens "Weakness" was pretty lame.

    Unbreakable or Signs?

    I actually liked Signs

    sure there were some questionable elements to the aliens (exterior lights on at night, why come to a planet literally covered with something that kills you, et al)

    but the thing is it wasn't a sci-fi flick

    it wasn't about the aliens

    and so I felt that the dumb things about them were excusable

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    Ms DapperMs Dapper Yuri Librarian Registered User regular
    TLH wrote:
    YaYa, that sounds awesome. I would love to see that guy work on stage. Has he done shows that played live in movie houses too?

    e. as in broadcast out in theaters. Simulcast or whatever.

    Ira Glass has done a few yeah.

    This American Life is so fucking good. My favorite is still the one about prisoners doing Hamlet.

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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    I have an anus for radio.

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    EndEnd Registered User regular
    I haven't listened to This American Life in a while

    I should fix that

    I wish that someway, somehow, that I could save every one of us
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    tech_huntertech_hunter More SeattleRegistered User regular
    I liked Unbreakable a lot, signs not so much I mean the premise was good but really the Aliens "Weakness" was pretty lame.

    Unbreakable or Signs?

    Wow I guess I never thought that the weaknesses were the same, but in unbreakable its a fear he has which is different than a whole race of beings invading a world with 70% of its surface covered in a substance that is death to them. Also I guess water played a big part of lady in the water, awful btw

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    Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    INCEPTION OPINIONS TIME.

    Inception is brilliant in terms of narrative construction, but that's really all it has going for it.

    All Nolan's movies are really well constructed, but they have varying levels of character depth and emotional impact. Inception is perhaps the most complex but (perhaps as a result) has the least actual depth.

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    I liked Unbreakable a lot, signs not so much I mean the premise was good but really the Aliens "Weakness" was pretty lame.

    Unbreakable or Signs?

    M. Night Shymalan hates water, apparently.

    Unless there is a lady in it, but that's just because it lets him stroke his ego.

    M. Night wanders through fields in the fall

    kicking up fallen leaves, gesticulating wildly

    just saying, "Fucking WATER!"

    over and over

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    FutoreFutore Registered User regular
    #pipe wrote:
    TLH wrote:
    Hello. I'm Ira Glass, and on This American Life...

    Ira_Glass.jpg

    8->

    Seriously, Pipe. He is just the best. That man's stupid show has brought me to happy, hopeful tears so many times it is ridiculous.

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    TLHTLH Registered User regular
    This American Life is the best. Unless it's a Selected Shorts where they let John Lithgow do poetry and pretty much whatever else he wants. Those are hard to top.

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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    INCEPTION OPINIONS TIME.

    Inception is brilliant in terms of narrative construction, but that's really all it has going for it.

    All Nolan's movies are really well constructed, but they have varying levels of character depth and emotional impact. Inception is perhaps the most complex but (perhaps as a result) has the least actual depth.

    I like you much better than that other, terrible, CK. Not hard to do, but I say this with heart

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    TLHTLH Registered User regular
    Man, Inception opinion time again?

    I liked it.

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    tech_huntertech_hunter More SeattleRegistered User regular
    I enjoyed inception but i had to watch it twice to kind of get what was going on in the end there. Also I liked the Adjustment Bureau, the ending took a turn but I enjoyed it.

    Sig to mucho Grande!
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    chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    edited September 2011
    TLH wrote:
    Man, Inception opinion time again?

    I liked it.

    This is the right thing to say.

    And the Adjustment Bureau bugged me for the incompetence of everyone involved.

    Also, the bit with the Dark Ages mentioned treated as if they were the worst thing ever with no progress and the WWI-Cuban Missile Crisis was cause to revoke free will. Lot of good stuff done in those times along with the bad.

    chiasaur11 on
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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Dubh wrote:
    INCEPTION OPINIONS TIME.

    Inception is brilliant in terms of narrative construction, but that's really all it has going for it.

    All Nolan's movies are really well constructed, but they have varying levels of character depth and emotional impact. Inception is perhaps the most complex but (perhaps as a result) has the least actual depth.

    I like you much better than that other, terrible, CK. Not hard to do, but I say this with heart

    I hope you don't mean Louis

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Shorty wrote:
    I liked Unbreakable a lot, signs not so much I mean the premise was good but really the Aliens "Weakness" was pretty lame.

    Unbreakable or Signs?

    M. Night Shymalan hates water, apparently.

    Unless there is a lady in it, but that's just because it lets him stroke his ego.

    M. Night wanders through fields in the fall

    kicking up fallen leaves, gesticulating wildly

    just saying, "Fucking WATER!"

    over and over

    occasionally he encounters Gary Busey doing the same thing

    what Gary Busey yells is, "ROUGHAGE!"

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    Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    Dubh wrote:
    INCEPTION OPINIONS TIME.

    Inception is brilliant in terms of narrative construction, but that's really all it has going for it.

    All Nolan's movies are really well constructed, but they have varying levels of character depth and emotional impact. Inception is perhaps the most complex but (perhaps as a result) has the least actual depth.

    I like you much better than that other, terrible, CK. Not hard to do, but I say this with heart

    I actually tend to agree with him, generally speaking.

    but like I really value narrative complexity, so I loved Inception despite thinking that it was missing something.

    If you don't find that kind of thing beautiful in itself, you won't have much reason to like the film, I guess

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