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[Person of Interest] Where Jesus is Batman

TaramoorTaramoor StorytellerRegistered User regular
edited November 2013 in Debate and/or Discourse
Person of Interest is a new show that premiered on CBS on Thursday 9/22/2011 at 9pm.

It stars Jesus from The Passion of the Christ as a retired and presumed dead former CIA/Special Forces Operative named Reese who has been wandering New York City the last few years as a homeless drunk.
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Some years ago his wife/girlfriend/something died horribly. He blames himself because he wasn't there, etc. etc. If you piss him off he will break various parts of you. He's played by Jim Caviezel.

It also stars Ben from Lost as Mr. Finch.
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He's a mysterious (and also presumed dead) man of virtually unlimited resources who has access to a government system that monitors every e-mail, phone call, security camera, whatever that hell that was authorized by the Patriot Act. He's created an algorithm that allows that government system to determine the identities of people who will, in the near future, be involved in some kind of horrible violent crime. Michael Emerson plays him.

It also seems to feature this woman.
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The hottie on the left. She's Detective Carter and she encounters Reese during the pilot. After running his fingerprints and watching him beat up a bunch of wannabe mobsters on the subway she decides that she needs to question him further. But before she can he's whisked away in a luxury car by Mr. Finch's people. She's played by Taraji P. Henson.

Look at it this way, Michael Emerson is Bruce Wayne, and Jim Caviezel is Batman. Together they fight crime on the mean streets of New York. Except Jim Caveizel has no problem killing bad guys.

The pilot is up on CBS.com watch it
http://www.cbs.com/shows/person_of_interest/video/2139986986/person-of-interest-pilot

The only real problem I have with it so far is that there's a tremendous amount of leg-shooting being done here. I mean, like fifteen people in the pilot alone. Other than that, fuckawesome.

It airs Thursdays at 9pm until it gets cancelled in the immediate future. Enjoy it while you can.

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  • TehSpectreTehSpectre Registered User regular
    This felt like Action Movie: The TV Show, which wasn't a bad thing.

    I'll give it a few more episodes before they cancel it.

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  • JuliusJulius Captain of Serenity on my shipRegistered User regular
    NOT ENOUGH LEG-SHOOTING!

    Pretty cool this is. I will keep up with it.

  • B:LB:L I've done worse. Registered User regular
    Taramoor wrote:
    Look at it this way, Michael Emerson is Bruce Wayne, and Jim Caviezel is Batman. Together they fight crime on the mean streets of New York. Except Jim Caveizel has no problem killing bad guys.
    Soo...

    It's more like Michael Emerson is Microchip, and Jim Caviezel is the Punisher. That's the gist I got.

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  • Dodge AspenDodge Aspen Registered User regular
    TehSpectre wrote:
    This felt like Action Movie: The TV Show, which wasn't a bad thing.

    I thought this exact thing. The characters and the action scenes were terrific. Cannot wait for more.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Taramoor wrote:
    Person of Interest is a new show that premiered on CBS on Thursday 9/22/2011 at 9pm.

    It stars the Count of Monte Cristo as a retired and presumed dead former CIA/Special Forces Operative named Reese who has been wandering New York City the last few years as a homeless drunk.
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    Just wanted to suggest a change to your OP.

    Also, I'm getting some Minority Report vibes here. :P

  • FecklessRogueFecklessRogue Registered User regular
    Secret backstory? Deadly combat skills? Fascination with shooting kneecaps?

    Jesus/Reese is really a Shepherd from the Fireflyverse sent back to the past.

  • CognisseurCognisseur Registered User regular
    I hope it's good, but I'm worried that Ben was just too perfect for his role on Lost, and he won't be able to be that amazing in anything else. The character was just the right amount of complicated, sad, funny, understandable, admirable, and cruel. And he played perfectly in that role, in a way I don't think any of my other favorite actors would've been able to. I just don't know if a crime-fighting show is gonna be the same caliber or fit for him.

  • TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    Cognisseur wrote:
    I hope it's good, but I'm worried that Ben was just too perfect for his role on Lost, and he won't be able to be that amazing in anything else. The character was just the right amount of complicated, sad, funny, understandable, admirable, and cruel. And he played perfectly in that role, in a way I don't think any of my other favorite actors would've been able to. I just don't know if a crime-fighting show is gonna be the same caliber or fit for him.

    He's basically playing Ben, same amount of resources, control, and wide swath of information, but without the whole Island thing to cloud his judgement or be terrible. Think Alt-Ben from Season 6 but with more money than God and no desire to teach chemistry.

  • TheBigEasyTheBigEasy Registered User regular
    Btw ... this is produced by JJ Abrams and written/produced by Jonathan Nolan, Christopher Nolans brother ... who also worked on the Dark Knight / Dark Knight Rises script.

    First episode was pretty good. As for the leg shooting. It is better than to just kill everyone, which would have been a tad more unbelievable.

  • TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    TheBigEasy wrote:
    Btw ... this is produced by JJ Abrams and written/produced by Jonathan Nolan, Christopher Nolans brother ... who also worked on the Dark Knight / Dark Knight Rises script.

    First episode was pretty good. As for the leg shooting. It is better than to just kill everyone, which would have been a tad more unbelievable.

    Except shooting someone in the leg or thigh will pretty effectively kill them and it's harder to do than shooting center mass. If you shoot someone... odds are they'll die. There are gigantic arteries in the human leg and if you even clip the femoral they could bleed out in about five minutes.

    In short, it's a more difficult shot than center mass and more often a fatal one.

  • DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    I was hoping someone would make a thread for this. The pilot was pretty fun. It also reminded me a little bit of Human Target, and it looks like in the next episode or so the core crew will grow.

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  • ChillyWillyChillyWilly Registered User regular
    I enjoyed the first episode of this show immensely. I hope it doesn't get canceled.

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  • Panda4YouPanda4You Registered User regular
    There was a slight, slight cheese vibe occasionally, but for the most part this was very entertaining. Looking forward to more episodes.

  • RocketSauceRocketSauce Registered User regular
    Caviezel's acting was humorless and disinterested. He seemed like he had no idea how to portray human emotions.

  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    He's ex-CIA. His emotions were surgically removed and are kept in a jar in CIA's secret underground warehouse.

  • zeenyzeeny Registered User regular
    I just saw the pilot and thought it's Flash Forward levels of bad. It will probably pull up ratings for a bit, but I wouldn't hold much hope for this.

  • TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    zeeny wrote:
    I just saw the pilot and thought it's Flash Forward levels of bad. It will probably pull up ratings for a bit, but I wouldn't hold much hope for this.

    As a rule I don't hold out hope for any show that I like. I could list off like ten series that I loved immediately that were cancelled before finishing their first season. Day Break, Journeyman, Drive, etc. This show seems like it will require pretty high production values, which is always a point against it, along with a premise that at a base level will make people uncomfortable (the whole Surveillance State thing).

    It has some of the benefits of the cop/lawyer/doctor shows in that during a given week Jim Caveizel can wind up associated with someone from any walk of life, but it doesn't have the inherent positive association because he's a vigilante and not a licensed good guy.

    In a lot of ways it reminds me of a show called Hack with David Morse that was also really good and didn't last very long.

  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    I enjoyed the first episode, and will probably give it at least a season to grow on me.

    To be fair, I just marathon'd a season and a half of Warehouse 13 over the weekend, so "behind the scenes bullshit leading to action/drama/shenanigans" is pretty much right up my alley.

    I also don't care if he's just Ben without the Island, I enjoyed him here too.

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  • TheBigEasyTheBigEasy Registered User regular
    Taramoor wrote:
    TheBigEasy wrote:
    Btw ... this is produced by JJ Abrams and written/produced by Jonathan Nolan, Christopher Nolans brother ... who also worked on the Dark Knight / Dark Knight Rises script.

    First episode was pretty good. As for the leg shooting. It is better than to just kill everyone, which would have been a tad more unbelievable.

    Except shooting someone in the leg or thigh will pretty effectively kill them and it's harder to do than shooting center mass. If you shoot someone... odds are they'll die. There are gigantic arteries in the human leg and if you even clip the femoral they could bleed out in about five minutes.

    In short, it's a more difficult shot than center mass and more often a fatal one.

    I am not an expert ... I just thought he did it because he didn't wanna kill anybody or something.

  • TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    TheBigEasy wrote:
    Taramoor wrote:
    TheBigEasy wrote:
    Btw ... this is produced by JJ Abrams and written/produced by Jonathan Nolan, Christopher Nolans brother ... who also worked on the Dark Knight / Dark Knight Rises script.

    First episode was pretty good. As for the leg shooting. It is better than to just kill everyone, which would have been a tad more unbelievable.

    Except shooting someone in the leg or thigh will pretty effectively kill them and it's harder to do than shooting center mass. If you shoot someone... odds are they'll die. There are gigantic arteries in the human leg and if you even clip the femoral they could bleed out in about five minutes.

    In short, it's a more difficult shot than center mass and more often a fatal one.

    I am not an expert ... I just thought he did it because he didn't wanna kill anybody or something.

    I know why they showed him doing it, it's actually a really common thing.

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    It just happens to be one of those things that bugs me when I see it done to excess. Seriously, he shot like eight guys in the room with the Anton, no fatalities. One of the cops after he shot a grenade in the car. Another guy in the lobby at the end.

  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    There's potential here, but they need to get the plot moving and quickly. A super brief intro and then delving into a "problem of the week" does not give me a great deal of confidence. The central premise is just too simple, they need to layer that up somehow and really quickly.

    That said, it was a hilarious bit of action fluff. And I'll give it a couple more episodes to try and develop.

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  • DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    My guess for PLOT TWIST in a future episode:

    Reese's wife is alive.

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  • TheOrangeTheOrange Registered User regular
    Dashui wrote:
    My guess for PLOT TWIST in a future episode:

    Reese's wife is alive.

    funny thing, I think that would boost ratings for some weird reason.

  • StraygatsbyStraygatsby Registered User regular
    I wanted to like this SO much!

    But I did not. I can't tell if it's just because Jesus gives a staggeringly yawn-inducing performance or because, when Ben finally explains some of the process of how the persons of interest are found, it doesn't fly particularly well.

    But I will continue to watch. Tinkering could make this work!

  • AsharadAsharad Registered User regular
    I liked this.

    The legs shooting didn't bother me because everyone who was shot was a tv person and not a real person. TV People's anatomy is different than ours. You can shoot them in the leg or in the shoulder and it's not that big a deal.

  • override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    edited September 2011
    Taramoor wrote:
    TheBigEasy wrote:
    Taramoor wrote:
    TheBigEasy wrote:
    Btw ... this is produced by JJ Abrams and written/produced by Jonathan Nolan, Christopher Nolans brother ... who also worked on the Dark Knight / Dark Knight Rises script.

    First episode was pretty good. As for the leg shooting. It is better than to just kill everyone, which would have been a tad more unbelievable.

    Except shooting someone in the leg or thigh will pretty effectively kill them and it's harder to do than shooting center mass. If you shoot someone... odds are they'll die. There are gigantic arteries in the human leg and if you even clip the femoral they could bleed out in about five minutes.

    In short, it's a more difficult shot than center mass and more often a fatal one.

    I am not an expert ... I just thought he did it because he didn't wanna kill anybody or something.

    I know why they showed him doing it, it's actually a really common thing.

    Warning: TVTROPES!
    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OnlyAFleshWound

    It just happens to be one of those things that bugs me when I see it done to excess. Seriously, he shot like eight guys in the room with the Anton, no fatalities. One of the cops after he shot a grenade in the car. Another guy in the lobby at the end.

    I find people getting knocked out a far worse trope and probably even more common than "shot in the leg". Really though, assuming you have superhuman aim, shooting someone in the foot has a really, really low probability of killing them. Being able to reliably hit someone's feet is even less realistic than shooting them in the leg and having them be fine though.

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    Loved it in Stroker and Hoop when they knocked out a camera guy the other guy correctly pointed out that they never checked to make sure the people they "knocked out" were still alive or okay later on. Somewhere there's a clinic filled with thousands of henchmen with brain damage

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  • SkySky Registered User regular
    Haven't seen the show yet, but it looks interesting.

    From the sounds of it, it's a simpler version of Batman, with Bruce Wayne and Bats as separate entities, less costumes.

  • TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    Interesting to get a little backstory on Finch.

    Truck bit was great. Detective lady seems to have chunked up a bit between pilot and pickup. Much more of a Human Target vibe this time around.

    Damn I hope this show sticks around.

  • ZampanovZampanov You May Not Go Home Until Tonight Has Been MagicalRegistered User regular
    edited September 2011
    Sky wrote:
    Haven't seen the show yet, but it looks interesting.

    From the sounds of it, it's a simpler version of Batman, with Bruce Wayne and Bats as separate entities, less costumes.

    Batman doesn't kill. This guy is Punisher Light with Micro: Micro Edition.

    I need to watch tonight's episode but I gotta wake up early tomorrow so it is postponed.

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  • Linespider5Linespider5 ALL HAIL KING KILLMONGER Registered User regular
    Speculation:
    I have a weird suspicion that 'the machine' might somehow become hostile towards the protagonists. Like it could wake up or become steered by some other group. Those sequences where we see the world through its 'eyes' with the tracking reticules on various things was oddly compelling, moreso if it becomes a thinking entity situation.

  • XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    So Finch needs a gun. Instead, he'll keep on with phones and box cutters and drive me insane. Why do the writers want me to go insane? I never hurt them!

  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    Finch doesn't like guns. Even if yes, he does need one.

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    I'm not sure if the machine will actively work against them, but it will notice them since they are "plotting" stuff. I wonder if it could mark them as terrorists?

  • XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    edited September 2011
    Reese doesn't like them either, but, you know. It be so awesome if they actually addressed the issue and Finch came around to the realities of the situation.

    So I wonder if the system is nation-wide now or still only New York. Can't recall if they ever specified now. I doubt they'll be state hopping even if it is nation-wide, but I guess even without the system being out of state there's no reason the people involved can't go somewhere. Not that that's too likely.

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  • zeenyzeeny Registered User regular
    Did we just have a shoot a guy just before he shoots twice, in the same episode, with the same guy? I'm kinda done with this. It will need to get some raving press in the future to make me come back to it.

  • GONG-00GONG-00 Registered User regular
    zeeny wrote:
    Did we just have a shoot a guy just before he shoots twice, in the same episode, with the same guy?

    I would have had less issue with this if Jesus Bauer shot the guy in the head the second time to make sure he was down.

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  • TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    zeeny wrote:
    Did we just have a shoot a guy just before he shoots twice, in the same episode, with the same guy? I'm kinda done with this. It will need to get some raving press in the future to make me come back to it.

    I was honestly hoping that Reese wouldn't get there in time, but it's a little early in the show to have them fail just yet. Particularly when they're protecting a kid. Convenient last-minute saves are a staple of shows like this, but without some kind of cutaway showing Reese trying to get there it felt more Deus ex Machina than it should have.

    The show still needs to figure itself out a little bit, and I could pick the entire episode apart if I hadn't had so much fun watching it. How did Reese beat the crap out of a restaurant full of mobsters but still get hammered by hired gun in the laundromat? How has an NYPD Detective pulling countless redacted files and running fingerprints not informed the government that Reese is still alive? Why were random mobsters still looking for a girl who'd been declared dead years ago? Why on Earth would you kill people who owe you money? You'll never get anything out of them that way. Again, why all the leg shooting? Why would a girl who's been on the run for years consent to staying in a room with a guy who looks like Michael Emerson? Etc.

    Still having too much fun to worry about it though. Or maybe it's just filling the void left by Human Target.

    Also, I quite enjoyed the intro that was new this week.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    I enjoy the show for some Jesus Bauer action, I just feel the homicide cop following him is way too forced. Like why would a homicide detective even be investigating a metro mugging anyway, I mean doesn't new york have metro police specifically for that?

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  • XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    Yes, the cop just needs to go. She's just a waste of screen time and will never catch him. He already has a cop not-buddy. Doesn't need a cop not-enemy. Replace her with a chic that can be on camera more often if you need a female cast member. He could use a partner that doesn't hobble, for instance.

    I hope the leg shooting stops, too. It also looked like the guy was wearing a vest still, even on his leg. I suppose they're not going to have blood splatter all over, but as was said, putting a round into his head (out of frame or just minus any gore) would have been nice.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Yeah Jesus Bauer is more than just because who is playing him. There is no way Jack wouldn't have done the double tap on the hitman to start. Or like broke his neck with some leg action.

    Damn I miss 24 for Jack Kills.

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  • PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    Just to be clear, this is the show where a guy invented a magictechnological device that monitors every electronic device in the world and identifies terrorists but also gives the inventor of the device the social security numbers of either victims or perpetrators of future violent crimes that he will use to try to prevent the future violent crimes using his crack team of procedural detectives?

    This is why scientific literacy sucks in the US

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