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It's Our [FILM] Thread Down Here

Fatboy RobertsFatboy Roberts Registered User regular
edited October 2011 in Debate and/or Discourse
In the days of yore, the people were entertained via parable; hand-me-down stories from grizzled, wizened old men with voices like gravel and eyes that had looked into forever. Their visage was weathered, their voice ragged, but their tales were full of life, of vigor, of pain and exultation. The crags and wrinkles on their face held wisdom, and kindness, and cruelty and pain. And they shared their stories so that we could learn, and feel, and marvel at things that we could be.

Later, those stories were accompanied by song, and dance. Troubadours traipsed through villages and shantytowns, plucking lutes and putting those tales to music. Fancy lads in green tights would stake out a plot of grass and gather amongst them those touched by a muse, and together, would spin similar yarns, in the hopes of entertaining and enlightening, of educating and enveloping those who simply wished to peek into a world that was bigger, braver, bolder, more boisterous.

And then, a couple of brothers named Lumiere took a camera, and shot footage of a train entering a station, and PEOPLE LOST THEIR SHIT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dgLEDdFddk

I mean people dived out of their chairs, ran up the aisles, burst out of the theater doors into the street, and started screaming at people to run.

Storytelling would never be the same.

It seemed slow at the time, but the rapidity with which directors, cameramen and editors figured out how to manipulate 24 frames of film a second was nothing short of astonishing. By 1925, narrative had not only been bent to the will of the director, it had been transformed, inflamed, made vibrant, sharp, STABBY. So much so that things like Sergei Eisenstein's 1925 epic "Battleship Potemkin"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLEE2UL_N7Q

Was not only being referenced, but outright ripped off by 1987's Brian DePalma

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTtj-VXxgbc

The innovations kept coming, pouring out of people so genius they couldn't help but invent pop-culture, and those that studied at the feet of the masters ended up standing on their shoulders. Curtiz. Ford. Hawks. Renoir. Bergman. Godard. Truffaut. Edwards. Wilder. Kurosawa. Tartovsky. Lean. Hitchcock. Ashby. Scorsese. Coppola. Carpenter. Spielberg. Yes, even Lucas. Van Sant. Woo. Miyazaki. Frears. Almodovar. Del Toro. Soderbergh. Coen. Bird. Jackson. Tarantino. So many left out, so many more to come up and stake their claim, tell their stories, enrapture their audiences.

And you wonder why people get lost in their heads. You wonder why they keep going to the theaters, even as prices approach 15 bucks a ticket. You wonder why they spend all this money on flatscreens and 7.1 surround sound, why they purchase blu-ray after blu-ray, why they subscribe to Netflix and Hulu, why their sig is a movie quote, why their walls are adorned with Drew Struzan art.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4WQdHNRvXA

It's because Films are time travel. Dimensional Travel. A trip to a world where idealism is rewarded, where the good fight is won, where the world makes sense, even when it doesn't. Where emotions are laid bare, where heartstrings aren't just plucked, but soloed upon as if Dick Dale himself had laid fingers upon your soul. It is, at its best, 90 minutes to 2hrs of the best of us, and the worst of us, in the most poignant, inspirational, depressing, scary, hilarious and exhilirating of ways.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO4tIrjBDkk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGR4SFOimlk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac6cOJb2FvI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYt24hq5nbM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF4kCgi9fDM

This is the film thread.

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  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    yaaay

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  • Johnny ChopsockyJohnny Chopsocky Scootaloo! We have to cook! Grillin' HaysenburgersRegistered User regular
    Goooood that Glengarry scene. One of my all-time favorite dress-down scenes.

    So Drive is a good movie. Kinda felt like 80s Michael Mann with a few extremely memorable stops in Cronenberg country.

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  • GodfatherGodfather Registered User regular
    I want to talk Horror movies since its October! Would that be enough to make its own stand-alone thread?

  • Johnny ChopsockyJohnny Chopsocky Scootaloo! We have to cook! Grillin' HaysenburgersRegistered User regular
    I dunno, as much as I love them, I think it'd be hard to talk for 100 pages about how great The Mist, The Thing and Slither are.

    This thread should hold the easy 50 pages we'd get out of those 3 movies.

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  • ThirithThirith Registered User regular
    Halloween is still my favourite slasher movie. Effective yet without neeting to go for lots of blood and guts. The combination of music and camera work - practically perfect. When I first watched it, I was 16 or so, it was the middle of a sunny day, but I sat there so tense, I had aching muscles the whole next day.

    (Having said that, I haven't seen the film in, oh, probably 10-15 years. I wonder how I'd like it now. Might be a good film to watch with my girlfriend, though, to see whether she needs anyone to cuddle up to. 8-) )

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  • GodfatherGodfather Registered User regular
    I watched The Strangers last night alone in my house.

    That was a bad idea.

  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    saw 50/50 last night. Wow. There were so many parts of that movie that just destroyed me emotionally. JGL has become my favorite actor currently working. Not sure how that happened, never would have expected back when I was watching 3rd Rock From the Sun.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Goooood that Glengarry scene. One of my all-time favorite dress-down scenes.

    Same. There's a BBC radio adaptation floating around with Alfred Molina in Pacino's role, he does a great job too.

  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    Sentry wrote:
    saw 50/50 last night. Wow. There were so many parts of that movie that just destroyed me emotionally. JGL has become my favorite actor currently working. Not sure how that happened, never would have expected back when I was watching 3rd Rock From the Sun.

    I'm still surprised by how good that movie was.

    I have to see it again because I told my aunt I'd see it with her, forgot, and saw it with my friend. but I do not regret this, I can't wait to see it a second time, I think Monday.

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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    Godfather wrote:
    I want to talk Horror movies since its October! Would that be enough to make its own stand-alone thread?

    Only one way to find out!

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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    I just got Conan the Barbarian on DVD so I can listen to the commentary.

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    Trick R Treat was really fun Halloween movie. Shame it never got the push it deserved.

    Just watched Drive last night, and I thought it was fantastic. It feels old school in all the right ways, but the cinematography, the story beats it uses makes it an almost brand new experience. I thought that Gosling, Cranston, and Brooks were great, with Gosling probably pulling an Oscar nom out of this.

  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    I love Conan the Barbarian. It's one of the few fantasy films that really manages to get the atmosphere right.

  • SarcasmoBlasterSarcasmoBlaster Austin, TXRegistered User regular
    edited October 2011
    Has anyone here seen Ides of March yet? I might try and check it out this weekend.

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  • wanderingwandering Russia state-affiliated media Registered User regular
    It blows my mind that that movie made people think a train was actually going to hit them.

    It actually makes me kind of sad to know that it would be impossible for any movie to ever have such a huge impact on me.

  • WaldoWaldo Registered User regular
    wandering wrote:
    It blows my mind that that movie made people think a train was actually going to hit them.

    It actually makes me kind of sad to know that it would be impossible for any movie to ever have such a huge impact on me.

    I feel like whoever pushes 3D feels like they're going to get this effect. And they're so very wrong.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    wandering wrote:
    It blows my mind that that movie made people think a train was actually going to hit them.

    It actually makes me kind of sad to know that it would be impossible for any movie to ever have such a huge impact on me.

    I wish I could go back in time and record a video of the crowd reacting to that. A billion hits on youtube.

  • southwicksouthwick Registered User regular
    For some reason the horror movies I remember most from childhood are:
    Evil Dead 2 (that dancing girlfriend creeped the heck out of me).
    House I & 2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16pV-J0o9kE

    I am sure the house films are terrible today, and house two even then was more of a horror comedy, thanks to a charismatic old west zombie called "gramps." Watching those trailers again, you may notice that there are some Cheers stars cast.

  • FroThulhuFroThulhu Registered User regular
    The commetary on Conan the Barbarian is some of the silliest shit I've ever heard. I love it.

  • KrieghundKrieghund Registered User regular
    House made me laugh so hard. "That was a pussy hit, Rog!"

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    So, how terrible is Real Steel?
    Is it matinee terrible? Wait for it on rental terrible? Wait for it to hit TV?
    How much money can I spend on a ticket before I feel like I got ripped off?

  • AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    So apparently Sony has registered 15 different webdomains with variations on the words, "James Bond," "the movie," and the curious word, "Skyfall."


    I would expect the next James Bond movie to be called: Skyfall.

  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    Or the outside chance at James Bond: The Movie.

  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    see317 wrote:
    So, how terrible is Real Steel?
    Is it matinee terrible? Wait for it on rental terrible? Wait for it to hit TV?
    How much money can I spend on a ticket before I feel like I got ripped off?

    It's good. Real good actually.

    It's predictable as hell and you will know exactly what's going to happen next but it's just such a fun movie. Spielberg touch is all over it. Jackman is good but the kid is the real stand out, as well as the fight scenes. It's hard not to smile during certain scenes or get into the robot fights.

    It's one of the most enjoyable sport movies in a while.

  • RocketSauceRocketSauce Registered User regular
    So is Sheriff J.W. Pepper finally going to be in the next Craig Bond? Maybe played by Phillip Seymor Hoffman?

  • Big DookieBig Dookie Smells great! DownriverRegistered User regular
    You fellows want horror (and lots of penis jokes)? I give you the official teaser trailer for John Dies at the End:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my9Pr-W92SM

    I seriously can't believe they got Paul Giamatti to be in this. I absolutely can not wait to go see this one.

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  • Skoal CatSkoal Cat Registered User regular
    Paul Giamatti is such a great everyman

  • KrieghundKrieghund Registered User regular
    Kyougu wrote:
    see317 wrote:
    So, how terrible is Real Steel?
    Is it matinee terrible? Wait for it on rental terrible? Wait for it to hit TV?
    How much money can I spend on a ticket before I feel like I got ripped off?

    It's good. Real good actually.

    It's predictable as hell and you will know exactly what's going to happen next but it's just such a fun movie. Spielberg touch is all over it. Jackman is good but the kid is the real stand out, as well as the fight scenes. It's hard not to smile during certain scenes or get into the robot fights.

    It's one of the most enjoyable sport movies in a while.

    That may all be true. I just can't get past rockem sockem robots.

  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    Krieghund wrote:
    Kyougu wrote:
    see317 wrote:
    So, how terrible is Real Steel?
    Is it matinee terrible? Wait for it on rental terrible? Wait for it to hit TV?
    How much money can I spend on a ticket before I feel like I got ripped off?

    It's good. Real good actually.

    It's predictable as hell and you will know exactly what's going to happen next but it's just such a fun movie. Spielberg touch is all over it. Jackman is good but the kid is the real stand out, as well as the fight scenes. It's hard not to smile during certain scenes or get into the robot fights.

    It's one of the most enjoyable sport movies in a while.

    That may all be true. I just can't get past rockem sockem robots.

    I gotta be honest, rockem sockem robots is one the huge draws to the movie for me. I mean, I saw giant boxing robots and I was pretty much sold. Then I saw a trailer with what appeared to be a stereo-typical "annoying kid" and I started to worry that he might get in the way of robot boxing.

  • Sangheili91Sangheili91 Registered User regular
    My feelings since day one have been "fuck it, I'm seeing Real Steel in IMAX and I'm going to love it."

    Robot boxing, how can you not love it?

  • GreasyKidsStuffGreasyKidsStuff MOMMM! ROAST BEEF WANTS TO KISS GIRLS ON THE TITTIES!Registered User regular
    Watched So I Married an Axe Murderer with my roommates cuz it was on Netflix and they hadn't seen it. Fun movie, Mike Myers is great. I think it kinda loses it's appeal at the end though, I feel like all the funniest parts are in the first half.

  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    Last night I watched The Thing for the second time (the first having been 15-20 years ago). That film was not one tenth as good as it was in my head :( It wasn't bad, but there's no real sense of drama. A damn shame when seminal films don't stand the test of time.

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  • HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Mojo_Jojo wrote:
    Last night I watched The Thing for the second time (the first having been 15-20 years ago). That film was not one tenth as good as it was in my head :( It wasn't bad, but there's no real sense of drama. A damn shame when seminal films don't stand the test of time.

    I feel the opposite way.

    I've seen The Thing millions of times and I always think it's incredible.

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  • LoserForHireXLoserForHireX Philosopher King The AcademyRegistered User regular
    Bogart wrote:
    I love Conan the Barbarian. It's one of the few fantasy films that really manages to get the atmosphere right.

    It's easily one of my favorite movies ever. I think that you're right though, it really does feel like fantasy.

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  • Fatboy RobertsFatboy Roberts Registered User regular
    So is Sheriff J.W. Pepper finally going to be in the next Craig Bond? Maybe played by Phillip Seymor Hoffman?

    Was looking around the movie news sites yesterday trying to find out where this came from, but came up bupkes.

  • stevemarks44stevemarks44 Registered User regular
    Has anyone here seen Ides of March yet? I might try and check it out this weekend.

    I saw it last night. It's the kind of movie that I have a feeling the Academy will use to fill out its Best Supporting Actor category.

    The performances are stellar, the story is engaging and has many unpredictable twists and turns, and Gosling proves again that he is the best dressed actor in Hollywood (so many suit/overcoat combos, and who can pull off tortoise shell glasses like that?!?! ANYWAYS).

    The one thing I'll remind people of, and I didn't know this so I'm not talking down, but there isn't much "thriller" to this political thriller. It's not Michael Clayton. Ides of March is based on a play and it feels like you're watching a play. Not so much in an intrusive way like Rabbit Hole, which just felt like a series of monologues set in different locales. But it's about 85% intense conversations. Maybe more than that.

    I totally recommend it and it made me want to see more of Clooney as a director. But just be forewarned that you're not getting some crazy thrill-ride.


    Also I saw Dream House. I ate a whole thing of popcorn after it because I needed to erase the idea that someone thought this would be a good movie to make. Also its the first time I've ever actually experienced a trailer ruining a LARGE protion of a movie for me.

  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I watched Hereafter last night. It was pretty good, though it was one of those Pursuit of Happyness-type movies where it's 110 minutes of shitty things happening to people and then at the end it's all, "Oh, okay, now everything is keen." I was also annoyed at the persistence of the "We all know psychic phenomena are real but there's a massive conspiracy to cover it up" vibe.

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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    edited October 2011
    ElJeffe wrote:
    I watched Hereafter last night. It was pretty good, though it was one of those Pursuit of Happyness-type movies where it's 110 minutes of shitty things happening to people and then at the end it's all, "Oh, okay, now everything is keen." I was also annoyed at the persistence of the "We all know psychic phenomena are real but there's a massive conspiracy to cover it up" vibe.

    I liked that it never really settled the question of whether Damon was a psychic or just a gifted people-reader. The "they don't want to believe" stuff was kind of annoying but I thought it still worked as an examination of that woman being unable to find meaning and connection in life after her experience.

    Something I really loved about the movie, and about Eastwood movies in general, was the sense of realism. Every place in it felt like a real place. Matt Damon's community college felt like a real community college, and that sort of tentative friendship he strikes up with the girl really felt like the kind of short-lived relationships you can develop in a setting like that. The office at the blue-collar place he works feels like a blue-collar office, and the other guys there aren't Hollywood pretty but look like actual mechanics.

    My big gripe with the movie was that it was ultimately too low-key. The sense of grief and sadness running through the movie was tastefully muted and kept as an undercurrent, which I appreciated, but the end really needed to be bigger and less shy. I mean, it's sort of authentic, I guess - when you "get over" bereavement, you feel more tired than, like, big and bursting with joy, but it just left the movie feeling kind of cold and wet.

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