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Mississippi voters deny nullification of Roe v. Wade, drinks all around
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That's basically what I meant too.
They've been using abortion as a way to herd their base towards certain candidates/goals, but now that same base is stampeding out of control and there really isn't a way to stop them.
One way or another, abortion protections will be made stronger. If we had a less conservative SCOTUS, this probably would have already happened as people challenged other shitty laws in the bible belt states. This, however, is just too blunt of a circumvention to let go.
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Progressive are worked up about all of the shitty things happening with abortion/birth control. They are just terrified of acting because they don't want the Supreme court to make things worse (by doing something like overturning RvW without having a better abortion protection). Right now, waiting things out until we get a more progressive court is usually regarded as the best move. Though even this is starting to become difficult, as the same prolife base that goes after abortion is now going after anything remotely sexually progressive; see the Wisconsin thread for how they are going back to abstinence only education after just passing a much more progressive sex-ed law last year.
Just throw some bootstraps into the cooler. You're on your own, kids.
Gerrymandering on an epic scale.
Plus every sperm counts as 1/2 of a person. Mississippi gains 100 new congressmen in the next census.
I'd like to see the faces of the people behind this whole thing when this gets explained to them. All the implications that legal personhood has, that is. What happens in a miscarriage? Involuntary manslaughter?
Word of law is a bitch!
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War criminals, really.
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Whoa now, pregnant women sometimes vote Democrat!
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Crap, this was a HORRIBLE plan!
No no, you have to be 18 years old to vote. It's all good.
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Good point.
Plan's back on boys!
IT'S ALL COLLAPSING.
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I am so glad that in this country at least it is still my decision on what I do with my body.
So bloody pissed right now.
They don't give two shits about mothers or children, or abortion for that matter. They care about riling their base up and increasing favorable voter turnout - that is all.
They care quite a lot about shaming women from having sex.
(But After They're Born Fuck 'Em)
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I'm sorry for your loss. It's best not to give too much thought into the GOP's thoughts on abortion as nothing positive can come of it. As people have said, the GOP's current platform is abortion is murder and welfare for children of poor parents (and especially single moms) is the lesser known 8th Deadly Sin.
On the plus side America is slowly moving towards a more secular and liberal society. It will be awhile, sadly, but progress is good.
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Yup, "conceived in rape" - classy.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned in the discussion so far is that every woman with a 28ish day cycle will spend about half of the time not being able to prove that she isn't carrying a new mississippi citizen. And personhood for the fertilized egg will start about 5 days before the pregnancy starts. As pregnancy tests and ultrasounds have gotten more sensitive, scientists have found that there are a large number of fertilized eggs that never implant and just come out with a woman's period. How will the new law take these deaths into account if noone ever knew that the person existed? Will they provide pregnancy tests to every woman in the state to take every week? Collect all used pads and tampons to test for the presence of eggs?
"Hey guys, if it wasn't for religious guilt and shame, my mother would have never carried me to term. And look how great I turned out! So remember: get raped, get pregnant, deal with it."
Forgetting the 10 other ways that this is just unfathomably stupid and selfish, it wholly misses the point. No one has ever argued that a child born from rape isn't still a child. That's pretty much NEVER been an argument. I wonder how her mother feels about the issue, knowing that not only is her daughter the product of a brutal violation of her person and liberty, and that in her daughter's face she sees her attacker every day for the rest of her life, but also the irreparable damage to whatever life she was planning on having before her unplanned pregnancy. What if she was engaged or married when she was raped? Is it now also her husband's responsibility to raise that child? If there's a divorce, does he have to pay child support?
To hell with these goddamn awful people. Arguing that rape pregnancies are cool because all babies are awesome is like telling someone that getting terminal cancer is cool because now they get to be part of a test group for treatments.
If fertilized eggs are people, with souls, then aren't we doing them a favor by killing them before they can sin?
Oh shit, I don't know if they have original sin or not. Hmm......alright, abortions are right out but if we "Baptize" them in the womb what are the chances they survive?
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With the current SCOTUS, that's not a bad plan. It's really all about who's throwing the conservative 5 money this month.
That is going to make a lot of pro-lifers choke if it comes down to it. I think a lot of them are only backing this in order to get a more moderate pro-life law enacted in the end. Lose the personhood part, but keep the anti-abortion part.
Nope, that's pretty much the end goal of the fundies.
Always remember, abortion is NOT about abortion. It's about women having sex.
Scalia is not a true believer, and neither is Thomas. They are both bought men, 100%. You can make a case for other three (I suppose).
The Leaders and people who stand in front of clinics yeah. The average pro-lifer in the street? Not so fanatical.
True Believers are always more fanatical then the fairweather crowd.