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[Paula Deen] : Evil, Sadistic Monster of a Woman
Chanus
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http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/01/the-evil-marketing-genius-of-paula-deen-the-new-face-of-diabetes/251543/
Paula Deen is pure, unadulterated evil. She is literally in the business of causing a disease and then shilling for the lifelong treatment goldmine that results.
Over the last few days, rumors had abounded that she had contracted Type II Diabetes... that's the kind you get from shoving her cooking into your facehole for years on end. She has apparently had the disease for several years, now, but has been keeping it quiet. Now that she's "out", she has accepted a position as a paid spokesperson for Novo Nordisk, a Danish pharma company that manufactures a drug treatment for the disease.
Her plan is to continue causing diabetes and then take money from Novo Nordisk in order to promote treatment for the disease she is causing. There isn't enough foam for my mouth. This is absolutely disgusting. She's basically playing both ends in order to enrich herself, to the detriment of anyone dumb enough to enjoy her recipes.
Fuck.
Paula Deen is pure, unadulterated evil. She is literally in the business of causing a disease and then shilling for the lifelong treatment goldmine that results.
Over the last few days, rumors had abounded that she had contracted Type II Diabetes... that's the kind you get from shoving her cooking into your facehole for years on end. She has apparently had the disease for several years, now, but has been keeping it quiet. Now that she's "out", she has accepted a position as a paid spokesperson for Novo Nordisk, a Danish pharma company that manufactures a drug treatment for the disease.
What's really unsettling here is Deen's role as an apparatus for an industry that sees more money in perfecting the expensive (for the patients) management of a disease instead of working harder to find a cure or to promote prevention, in which there is no viable financial market. Diabetes, a widespread, little-understood, but completely manageable disease, is a potentially evergreen market.
Her plan is to continue causing diabetes and then take money from Novo Nordisk in order to promote treatment for the disease she is causing. There isn't enough foam for my mouth. This is absolutely disgusting. She's basically playing both ends in order to enrich herself, to the detriment of anyone dumb enough to enjoy her recipes.
She didn't wait to announce the news because, as she put it, she "had nothing to give to my fellow friends out there." She could have given them new recipes, advice for living a healthier lifestyle, and some warnings about the causes of type 2 diabetes. Instead, she waited until she could corner the market on the (very likely) next phase of her constituents' lifestyle: a $500 per month Victoza prescription.
Fuck.
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Actually you can get type II diabetes genetically. And its not always controllable. Sometimes it will completely fuck your circulation, eyesight and kidneys. Even with medication. Leaving you a blind amputee on dialysis.
But I do agree with your fuck Paula Deen analysis.
Pretty much this.
She has such a loyal following among crazy people. She has such a huge soap box to teach and preach from, and she not only didn't, but won't now.
So....
Fuck her.
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Sandra Lee is pretty terrible too, but for different reasons.
Paula Deen has diabetes!? This is my surprise face.
I've looked at a few of Paula Deen's recipes, and they are disturbing with the amount of butter they call for.
Deep-Fried Motherfucking Stuffing on a Stick
I love stuffing.
And deep fried goods.
But I am pretty meh on eating things on a stick.
Shape up or die fatty!
I'm of the opinion that Food Network should get in the habit of mentioning the basic nutritional data for all of the recipes that appear on their programs so that aspiring home chefs can make some better-informed choices about the recipes they choose to add to their repertoire. But I'm generally also of the opinion that even without specific calorie/sodium/saturated fats/unsaturated fats data, "three sticks of butter" ought to be a metric suitable enough that anyone who still replicates Paula's recipes at home probably deserves what they have coming to them.
But fried butter does.
Alton Brown is pretty good about this.
Huh, that is a good idea. They could even make it an app, and/or give you a link to a webpage with the data. Or maybe run a ticker at the bottom.
It seems like a logical extention of her current business.
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So Paula Deen is causing diabetes now? The food she makes isn't any less healthy than what say, Anne Willan cooks. Or heck, any French chef from Escoffier on down - French food is practically an ode to butter and cream. Julia Child was criticized back in the day for excessive butter and sugar in her TV-promoted dishes. Deen practically cooks diet food compared to Paul Prudhomme (who is also fat and probably has diabetes).
Should we say Fuck Michelle Obama too, because she promotes exercise as a way to fight childhood obesity, while at the same time shitty school lunches are contributing to the childhood obesity epidemic? The same school lunches that are in the sorry state they're in (french fries=fresh vegetables) because the federal government (Dept of Agriculture) has commoditized them, just so farmers have a dumping ground for subpar meat that even McDonald's won't touch.
Is this because Deen didn't make her diabetes public? I dunno, I doubt anyone's shocked to find out she's not the pinnacle of health. You can tell just by looking that she's fat. She also smokes. And has never promoted her food as healthy.
The important distinction is that she's not promoting finding a cure or even prevention: she's promoting expensive treatment.
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There's some evidence that saturated fat is linked to diabetes, but in some studies after you control for obesity the correlation disappears.
The primary known causes of diabetes are genes, obesity, and sugar. I guess you could make a case that butter contributes to obesity, which contributes to diabetes as a secondary effect.
Anyway, none of that excuses her position as a pharma shill. I'm pretty pro-pharma, and even I think it's ridiculous that she's selling a brand-name medication for a disease that is well-managed by lifestyle changes and generic medication.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Paula Deen has massive appeal to people, and a huge fanbase who takes her word as gospel. Everything that she makes is like heaven on a plate. And if she decided to do something about it, if she even thought about making it so that her food would be a bit better, a bit healthier, then this might not be a big deal.
However, she has decided to not use her pulpit as a means of changing the country's perception on health and diabetes, she has simply said "well, guess there's nothing Ah can do about it, time to take the drugs! It's just one o' those thangs!"
When there are things that can be done about it, and she is one of the perfect people to teach about it. She is choosing to let other people who idolize her risk this disease, which is already in record numbers, so that she can benefit more from it.
And that is disappointing and disgusting.
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Right. Even in the absence of lifestyle modification, the first-line treatment for diabetes is metformin. It's cheap, safe (as long as your kidneys and liver work - which is a complication in some populations but not the general population), and it works.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
A bit better.
but I'm not familiar with the distribution of the Cooking Channel. I know that it was available to my parents, but only if they went up to the next level of cable. But everybody can get Food Network. So....
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While this may be the case, I learned at a pretty young age that "everybody's doing it!" doesn't make it okay.
I wish I still believed that
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Edit: I mean, it's still in pretty poor taste for someone like her to be any kind of spokesperson for diabetes, which I guess in some weird tangential way she is a cause of, but I'm not willing to see Deen as a "cause" of diabetes. Moreover, my understanding (informed in large part by some posters in this forum, and the SE cooking threads) is that diabetes is linked in large part to the shit diet of people who don't have the money or time to eat in a manner that prevents the disease, considering that cheap often equals processed crap. If you have the money to be making Paula Deen recipes for every meal, you have the money to also be buying fresh veggies and a gym memebership. If you're watching Food Network in general you're probably fairly cognizant of healthy eating.
Oh sweet idea guy
let's get a chart made up, and then each devote exactly the appropriate amount of time to each individual evil based on say geographic proximity
when we're finally ISO 9000 compliant I bet we'll kick all this to the curb!
http://thecelebritycafe.com/feature/anthony-bourdain-slams-paula-deen-twitter-01-17-2012
Again, my argument about the Foxconn workers is just for context - as in, I think a fairly unavoidable thing in modern everyday life does more damage, on the whole, than what Deen is doing. There's a ton of little evils everywhere, what Deen is doesn't rank as "evil" for me - distasteful, sure. I have a familial risk for diabetes, and I LOVE cooking and some fairly unhealthy Italian and French food in the vein of what Deen makes, and I could afford to lose 10 pounds - but I still make it to the gym three or four times a week because I happen to think I'm personally responsible for my health, instead of "DAMN YOU, DEEEEEEEEEEEEN". As far as her shilling for the medication, whatever. As posters noted above, its managable with lifestyle changes and exercise, and if you go to your doc and he recommends you take whatever medication Deen is shilling for instead of making those lifestyle changes before you do anything else, you need to find a new doc.
I wish I could lime this for ultimate truth.
It's basically fried dough. Every culture has it, which may explain why death is universal.
Donmt make fun of her diabetes, thats just mean. :P
I'm extremely skeptical of American health food culture, which tends to be low fat/high sugar.
They even had low carb on Penn and Teller's "bullshit" wherein a doctor said "yeah it makes you lose weight but its bad because of ketosis"
No explanation beyond that, but that he doesn't recommend it, it's silly
If you advocate that people engage in harmful behaviors, you are doing something wrong.
At best, you are unaware that the behaviors are harmful. This is a failure of knowledge.
At worst, you know, but you advocate them anyway. This is a failure of morality.
It is silly that I have to explain this. No doubt you'll come back and say "but she's not putting a gun to your head" yet again, as if that makes it okay. No, she's not directly threatening people. That would be even worse. But the possibility of a worse transgression does not by itself forgive the lesser transgression.
People have a moral responsibility to engage in beneficial speech to the best of their ability.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I don't even do the low carb thing.
But most low fat foods will simply be high sugar by default to make up for the lack of flavor.
Chubby Chaser?
By this, I know you mean specifically prepackaged "Low Fat" labeled foods.
I say this only because we run the risk of somebody taking you too literally and saying "but celery is a low fat food herp derp"
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Well most of the "fat is the ultimate evil" school of thought is actually complete bullshit, and sugar can be pretty conclusively linked to America being fatty mcfatcakes, and most of America's doctors are still devotees of the food pyramid because they had that one nutrition class in the 1980s.
I'm not trying to sell an ideology here, but common sense nutrition in America is fucked