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It's not "cheating" to sometimes turn around, but FWIW Deus Ex guards are extremely predictable compared to lots of other games. If your main beef with Deus Ex is the ladders, though, I'm not really sure what to say. I mean, they work the same way as ladders in Half-Life (and most other FPS games) work, so at least it's in good company?
shrug, I just didn't enjoy what I was playing, so I stopped.
It's not "cheating" to sometimes turn around, but FWIW Deus Ex guards are extremely predictable compared to lots of other games. If your main beef with Deus Ex is the ladders, though, I'm not really sure what to say. I mean, they work the same way as ladders in Half-Life (and most other FPS games) work, so at least it's in good company?
shrug, I just didn't enjoy what I was playing, so I stopped.
That's about a good a reason to stop as you'll find.
I wouldn't call blatantly copying a meme much of a high point....
So if I wanted to get into Double Fine games. Where should I start? Psychonauts, Costume Quest, or Stacking?
or maybe I should just beat Vessel.
Most would say Psychonauhts, but I freaking love Costume Quest. Stacking is good too.
Start whereever you want. They're all awesome.
I have only played Costume Quest, but it reminded me of Chrono Trigger and Super Mario RPG for the good old SNES, I really enjoyed it during the holidays.
It's also a quick game, so you can scratch it from your backlog relatively quickly.
I wouldn't call blatantly copying a meme much of a high point....
So if I wanted to get into Double Fine games. Where should I start? Psychonauts, Costume Quest, or Stacking?
or maybe I should just beat Vessel.
Most would say Psychonauts, but I freaking love Costume Quest. Stacking is good too.
Start wherever you want. They're all awesome.
Psychonauts is the longest, and it has the highest highs (and the lowest lows) ((glares at the final level)).
Costume Quest is a fun, but short, throwback to classic rpgs. I'd say it's the easiest to get into and finish.
I love Stacking. It's stuffed full of character. (really, all of these are, though) The puzzles are clever and intuitive. There's some collecting stuff you don't have to do, but I was compelled to.
it really comes down to whether you're in the mood for a platformer, an rpg or a puzzle game. you really can't go wrong.
Let us all give thanks to the Newell for shielding our backlogs from the ravages of Mass Effect 3 and protecting our wallets from the evil that is EA.
Origin's existence is good for you, the consumer, even if you never, ever personally use it and hold to an idea that punched your mom in the mouth twice.
Coming from a huge Steam fan, I know Steam is not perfect... but what I know more than anything that having no actual competition is bad for everyone involved (except for the person/thing with no competition). Steam, while pretty awesome, is not a force of benevolence.
On the other hand, competition for competition's sake isn't really great if the competition doesn't want to compete in good faith. Ie, gfwl or ubisoft drm
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I'm not talking drm, I'm talking platforms for game purchasing/management. Origin is Steam's only real competition.
Also good faith isn't really relevant. Even if Origin is the wicked stepmother or whatever competing with Steam, it's still good that they have that competition. One brand having monopoly means they set all the rules.
It also, again, isn't competition if its not competing. Origin is just there, seems to be getting used more as a bluntforce tool to enforce their higher 59.99 price point, and restrict people to their platform.
Competition is good when the competitors compete. Two seperate people who sell product A and product B and just happen to distribute in a similar fashion are not competing. Its just splitting the marketplace.
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It also, again, isn't competition if its not competing. Origin is just there, seems to be getting used more as a bluntforce tool to enforce their higher 59.99 price point, and restrict people to their platform.
Competition is good when the competitors compete. Two seperate people who sell product A and product B and just happen to distribute in a similar fashion are not competing. Its just splitting the marketplace.
It uh, is actually competition, even if Origin is bad at it, like it is right now. It's also not "blunt reinforcement" as Kingdoms of Amalur showed, having a Steam version for 59.99. Origin sells games from other publishers as well, runs deals, etc. Again, all worse than Steam, at this point. Do your research.
I know that Valve is awesome. I love them too. I think this would probably be better in an industry talk thread or something, though, because groupthink is pretty strong here.
It also, again, isn't competition if its not competing. Origin is just there, seems to be getting used more as a bluntforce tool to enforce their higher 59.99 price point, and restrict people to their platform.
Competition is good when the competitors compete. Two seperate people who sell product A and product B and just happen to distribute in a similar fashion are not competing. Its just splitting the marketplace.
It uh, is actually competition, even if Origin is bad at it, like it is right now. It's also not "blunt reinforcement" as Kingdoms of Amalur showed, having a Steam version for 59.99. Origin sells games from other publishers as well, runs deals, etc. Again, all worse than Steam, at this point. Do your research.
I know that Valve is awesome. I love them too. I think this would probably be better in an industry talk thread or something, though, because groupthink is pretty strong here.
I did do my research. Over the past 5 months they've had all of six games on sale through the client. 23 more on sale through a coupon you got elsewhere. The deals ranged from 12~50% (The 50s generally being their socialish games or the Need for speed stuff.)
Kingdom's of Amalur was self-published by the developer. It was an EA partnership title, but the developer then went out of their way to work a deal with Valve and self-publish under the Steam platform. (Hence, surprisingly, if you have the game on Origin the publisher says EA, and if you have it on Steam it says 38 studios.) As for the price point, due to it being an EA partnership title, I'm sure they were legally required to publish at the same price point as the parent retailer (EA in this case.) because I highly doubt EA would invest and then let them run off and sell it for cheaper elsewhere, hmm?
Gasp! Research! maybe you should do some of your own before saying others should. Because I know /I/ do my research rather well, and I know what competitive retail looks like. What Origin is doing is not competitive retail in the least. Amazon, Green Man, Gamers gate. These all compete on a retail front of fluid pricing, price matching, dynamic sale adjustments and such.
Origin is a brand platform (Much as Steam started, mind!), which offers no advantage to the consumer. (Steam, mind, has always given discounts for buying Valve products. Even before the glut of preorder bodangles or whatever.)
Oh gods, the competition!!111.
I wish people would research what competition actually means.
Content lockout (Such as apple trying to sue everyone for using touch technology like they invented it (Protip, they didn't, they just made a bunch of sweeping IP patents like trolls.)) is not competition, it's an attempt to brute force a market by a content monopoly. Whether you drag other content into it is invariably unimportant unless you actually competitively sell said content with your.. well, competition!
If I sell water and am the only source of water, but you have a taco stand. Then I also happen to start selling tacos but at 2$ extra? Yeah. I'm not competing with you, I'm just being a dick who might sell a few tacos to lazy people at a profit because they need to come to me for the water. I'm really just ripping off my customers, because I offer one thing they can only get through me, then sell other things at a premium they can get elsewhere, of course, but a large enough number will simply buy them because its 'easier'.
Its also how gas stations, resorts, airports and other businesses price things to make money. Read any business reports and you'll note none of these businesses are considered competition for a Walmart or a Target, even if the gas station happens to be right on the corner. Even if they sell many similar products!
Nice place to visit (and live), but bring some cash, everything is expensive. KoA was a cheap game for realease. ME3 is 80$ for the normal edition, Skyrim is $90. Diablo 3 collectors edition is looking like $120.
I always wanted to vacation there. Expensive to fly, not too bad otherwise. But if games are that expensive I don't know if I'd want to live there. I'd have to find another hobby
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Does anyone know if you can gift duplicates in the double fine pack? I want to get costume quest, as well as stacking, but I already have Pyschonauts, but would still get the pack if I can gift the extra Pyschonauts.
Does anyone know if you can gift duplicates in the double fine pack? I want to get costume quest, as well as stacking, but I already have Pyschonauts, but would still get the pack if I can gift the extra Pyschonauts.
Very rarely can you do so. Unless the pack explicitly says you can somewhere, the answer is almost certianly no, sorry.
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Does anyone know if you can gift duplicates in the double fine pack? I want to get costume quest, as well as stacking, but I already have Pyschonauts, but would still get the pack if I can gift the extra Pyschonauts.
Very rarely can you do so. Unless the pack explicitly says you can somewhere, the answer is almost certianly no, sorry.
That's annoying. I bought Pyschonauts, and technically I'm buying it again so it shouldn't be any different than buying a gift copy.
Whatever steam. You'll win anyway. We both know it.
Is it really old news that Notch was talking about funding Pyschonauts 2? Because I just read about it and it's kind of exciting.
Yeah, that's pretty old now. It also happened about 2-3 days before Double Fine launched their kickstarter campaign. Notch later commented on how he couldn't believe how bad his timing was with that tweet.
Is it really old news that Notch was talking about funding Pyschonauts 2? Because I just read about it and it's kind of exciting.
Yeah, that's pretty old now. It also happened about 2-3 days before Double Fine launched their kickstarter campaign. Notch later commented on how he couldn't believe how bad his timing was with that tweet.
He also subsequently commented that he didn't realize how much it costs to fund a sequel (it was about twice as much as he estimated) and implied that he wasn't planning on spending that kind of money.
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Is it really old news that Notch was talking about funding Pyschonauts 2? Because I just read about it and it's kind of exciting.
Yeah, that's pretty old now. It also happened about 2-3 days before Double Fine launched their kickstarter campaign. Notch later commented on how he couldn't believe how bad his timing was with that tweet.
I for one really dislike EA, for some reason it keeps it's games listed on Steam as brand new on my region, I have been able to buy some of their games on sane sales thanks to the fine gentlemen of this board.
Hell, I got Mass Effect 2 and was never able to *pay* for the DLC because I wanted to use my american debit card while my IP was from México (They did charge the transaction for Bioware points, but later reversed it) according to the support person I was chatting with.
I really really want to play Mass Effect 3, and I'm thinking I'm going to buy it at a B&M Store, even if I eventually have to use Origin. EA is an industry giant so I don't see them returning to Steam anytime soon. =/
Origin is known as the platform people to use to play BF3, ME3, and KoA on. We simply use it because it's mandatory.
"Wait" he says... do I look like a waiter?
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I just bought Costume Quest and I really wished it used the mouse, but it's all keyboard. I'm sucking at the battles because I keep hitting the wrong keys. Apparently I need to go back to high school and retake auto typing. I'm really glad I ordered a controller off amazon a couple days ago now.
I just bought Costume Quest and I really wished it used the mouse, but it's all keyboard. I'm sucking at the battles because I keep hitting the wrong keys. Apparently I need to go back to high school and retake auto typing. I'm really glad I ordered a controller off amazon a couple days ago now.
If you have a wired Xbox Controller you can use it and it will work easily. That's how I played it.
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shrug, I just didn't enjoy what I was playing, so I stopped.
That's about a good a reason to stop as you'll find.
That and "Its giving me cancer."
I have only played Costume Quest, but it reminded me of Chrono Trigger and Super Mario RPG for the good old SNES, I really enjoyed it during the holidays.
It's also a quick game, so you can scratch it from your backlog relatively quickly.
Psychonauts is the longest, and it has the highest highs (and the lowest lows) ((glares at the final level)).
Costume Quest is a fun, but short, throwback to classic rpgs. I'd say it's the easiest to get into and finish.
I love Stacking. It's stuffed full of character. (really, all of these are, though) The puzzles are clever and intuitive. There's some collecting stuff you don't have to do, but I was compelled to.
it really comes down to whether you're in the mood for a platformer, an rpg or a puzzle game. you really can't go wrong.
Am I eligible? :oops:
I entered but I'm quite new here, so if it's a problem I'll just remove my entry...
Well you have an account here, and you have posted, so I don't see an issue. Welcome to the forums, btw. Tip your hostess.
Origin's existence is good for you, the consumer, even if you never, ever personally use it and hold to an idea that punched your mom in the mouth twice.
Coming from a huge Steam fan, I know Steam is not perfect... but what I know more than anything that having no actual competition is bad for everyone involved (except for the person/thing with no competition). Steam, while pretty awesome, is not a force of benevolence.
Also good faith isn't really relevant. Even if Origin is the wicked stepmother or whatever competing with Steam, it's still good that they have that competition. One brand having monopoly means they set all the rules.
Competition is good when the competitors compete. Two seperate people who sell product A and product B and just happen to distribute in a similar fashion are not competing. Its just splitting the marketplace.
It uh, is actually competition, even if Origin is bad at it, like it is right now. It's also not "blunt reinforcement" as Kingdoms of Amalur showed, having a Steam version for 59.99. Origin sells games from other publishers as well, runs deals, etc. Again, all worse than Steam, at this point. Do your research.
I know that Valve is awesome. I love them too. I think this would probably be better in an industry talk thread or something, though, because groupthink is pretty strong here.
I did do my research. Over the past 5 months they've had all of six games on sale through the client. 23 more on sale through a coupon you got elsewhere. The deals ranged from 12~50% (The 50s generally being their socialish games or the Need for speed stuff.)
Kingdom's of Amalur was self-published by the developer. It was an EA partnership title, but the developer then went out of their way to work a deal with Valve and self-publish under the Steam platform. (Hence, surprisingly, if you have the game on Origin the publisher says EA, and if you have it on Steam it says 38 studios.) As for the price point, due to it being an EA partnership title, I'm sure they were legally required to publish at the same price point as the parent retailer (EA in this case.) because I highly doubt EA would invest and then let them run off and sell it for cheaper elsewhere, hmm?
Gasp! Research! maybe you should do some of your own before saying others should. Because I know /I/ do my research rather well, and I know what competitive retail looks like. What Origin is doing is not competitive retail in the least. Amazon, Green Man, Gamers gate. These all compete on a retail front of fluid pricing, price matching, dynamic sale adjustments and such.
Origin is a brand platform (Much as Steam started, mind!), which offers no advantage to the consumer. (Steam, mind, has always given discounts for buying Valve products. Even before the glut of preorder bodangles or whatever.)
Oh gods, the competition!!111.
I wish people would research what competition actually means.
Content lockout (Such as apple trying to sue everyone for using touch technology like they invented it (Protip, they didn't, they just made a bunch of sweeping IP patents like trolls.)) is not competition, it's an attempt to brute force a market by a content monopoly. Whether you drag other content into it is invariably unimportant unless you actually competitively sell said content with your.. well, competition!
If I sell water and am the only source of water, but you have a taco stand. Then I also happen to start selling tacos but at 2$ extra? Yeah. I'm not competing with you, I'm just being a dick who might sell a few tacos to lazy people at a profit because they need to come to me for the water. I'm really just ripping off my customers, because I offer one thing they can only get through me, then sell other things at a premium they can get elsewhere, of course, but a large enough number will simply buy them because its 'easier'.
Its also how gas stations, resorts, airports and other businesses price things to make money. Read any business reports and you'll note none of these businesses are considered competition for a Walmart or a Target, even if the gas station happens to be right on the corner. Even if they sell many similar products!
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Yikes. I always thought Australia was a nice play to go to. Games are expensive
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Well who needs virtual fun when you have this. It'll be like Jurassic park the game, but better!
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I just hope I actually play a significant amount of it, but at 10 bucks I'm sure I can get my money's worth.
Very rarely can you do so. Unless the pack explicitly says you can somewhere, the answer is almost certianly no, sorry.
That's annoying. I bought Pyschonauts, and technically I'm buying it again so it shouldn't be any different than buying a gift copy.
Whatever steam. You'll win anyway. We both know it.
You bought it because it's super fun. At the very least you can have fun murdering the whole town.
Yeah, that's pretty old now. It also happened about 2-3 days before Double Fine launched their kickstarter campaign. Notch later commented on how he couldn't believe how bad his timing was with that tweet.
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How so?
Hell, I got Mass Effect 2 and was never able to *pay* for the DLC because I wanted to use my american debit card while my IP was from México (They did charge the transaction for Bioware points, but later reversed it) according to the support person I was chatting with.
I really really want to play Mass Effect 3, and I'm thinking I'm going to buy it at a B&M Store, even if I eventually have to use Origin. EA is an industry giant so I don't see them returning to Steam anytime soon. =/
If you have a wired Xbox Controller you can use it and it will work easily. That's how I played it.
This. Origin isn't actually a competitor with Steam (at least not yet).
Like battle.net, without the robust matchmaking service or cross game support.
One day it might be more than that, but I'm just not feeling that vibe.
I tried to uninstall the ME3 demo yesterday. It just brings up my systems own add/remove hardware. Wha?
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The checkpoint save system is a fuckin' travesty, though. Whoever let it release in this state should be worried about thier job.
Personally, I'm waiting for a patch.
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