Played with a Fizz mid last night. Jungler kept invading my wraiths and stuff, and I politely pointed out that if he got a ward or two to help out, it might net him some kills and gank protection.
"lol get your own wards"
Fucking people who play this game expect everyone else to do everything so they can just worry about pwning.
"Janna we need more wards"
"I've already bought like 6, and it's only 10 minutes in. You need to buy wards too."
"Then why have I not seen any"
"Because you're not paying attention. Now go buy some wards."
"lol support buys wards"
Welp
What are you talking about? Only the jungler and support buy wards, the AD Carry just farms all game and expects you to fill them up on HP/Mana constantly, that's what you're there for!
Early game the AD carry can not carry wards. That's fine. After you start putting shit together everyone needs to buy wards. I honestly don't know how people got this far without warding like a madman. When I was level 18 I was fucking warding both sides of the river as solo mid.
If you have the money for a ward or two when you return from base, you should buy them, it's simple as that. It's not going to noticeably slow down your build, and if a ward gets you a kill, prevents you from getting ganked, or prevents counterjungling, it's more than paid for itself. If people realize you're diligent about warding, they're going to stop trying to gank you. Or they'll spend money on Oracle's, and then you've set THEM behind a lot.
As a jungler, I really appreciate good warding. "Oh, he's getting ready to gank mid? Let's turn the tables," or "Oh, he's up top? I'll go counterjungle the bottom then."
It doesn't happen often at my hidden elo/elo/whatever, but when I see a top lane ask the jungle or bot support to ward for him, it's the biggest "wut" I can imagine.
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Yeah, I know. It was sarcasm.
If I'm mid or top, I buy at least one ward on my first base. If I'm AD Bot, I tend to buy wards after I have a BF Sword/Vamp Scepter or 2-3 Dorans+Vamp Scepter.
Jungle... I buy wards sort of sporadically, I need to get a better feel for when and where to put them when jungling, but it's so dependant on who you are jungling -as- and who you are jungling -against- that I don't have a solid handle on it yet.
I even use my heal, as AD carry, to save my support's life. Is that wrong of me? I think the most exploitation I ever do to my support is to murder my enemies when they jump on him/her.
I think it mostly roots in me disliking bot lane and passionately hating support. For myself, I want to suffer as little as possible while down there and it's generally possible to tell when your support is someone who doesn't want to be there and is just trying to make the most of it. Me being a selfish bastard is not going to help either of us, so I might as well be nice about it and lessen the pain. Then maybe karma will be good to me and let me top/jungle the next game.
And I played Lulu the other day with a Trist who didn't know her burst. No Trist, me hitting MF with lv1 q is not a sign for you to go balls deep. It's called harass. I do it so you can farm. Y U NO FARM!? So then I just farmed. Lulu is ok, I guess. She's cute to play, but I didn't take to her.
I forget to buy wards all the time! I've leveled 'Forget to ward' to 5 and left it there.
i feel like i'm playing in some kind of bizarro 1300-1400 elo bracket where nobody rages, people buy wards, everyone calmly discusses their picks and roles in champion select, and people are good sports about losing and winning
I want to play mid more, because I think it's what I'm best at. However, apparently everyone feels this way and since I'm last pick 90% of the time I almost always end up playing support or AD. As a result I often spend the whole game making this face :?
My favorite part of last pick is saying "hey guys, I'm best with mid/jungle but will play wherever I guess" having people say "no one cares what you think last pick, you take what's left," and then getting raged at when I'm not pro at whatever role they decide to stick me in.
i feel like i'm playing in some kind of bizarro 1300-1400 elo bracket where nobody rages, people buy wards, everyone calmly discusses their picks and roles in champion select, and people are good sports about losing and winning
i feel sorry for you guys
This is where I am in my normal draft games. There's the occasional retard or rager, but it's mostly nice people who'd like to win. Except I think I'm in the 1000 ELO brakcet version, as everyone forgets wards all the time. (My retardation is contagious.)
I want to play mid more, because I think it's what I'm best at. However, apparently everyone feels this way and since I'm last pick 90% of the time I almost always end up playing support or AD. As a result I spend the whole game making this face :?
My favorite part of last pick is saying "hey guys, I'm best with mid/jungle but will play wherever I guess" having people say "no one cares what you think last pick, you take what's left," and then getting raged at when I'm not pro at whatever role they decide to stick me in.
I don't mind supporting when I'm last pick, it's a risk I accepted when clicking play. But when people say stuff like that, I'll break out the troll supports, because then they deserve them. (Only had one guy like that in forever, though.)
I am last pick about 90% of my solo que, 7% 4th pick, 2% 3rd pick, 0.9% 2nd and 0.00000000001% first pick. It's a big surprise when someone above me picks a support and I can play other roles.
I want to play mid more, because I think it's what I'm best at. However, apparently everyone feels this way and since I'm last pick 90% of the time I almost always end up playing support or AD. As a result I spend the whole game making this face :?
My favorite part of last pick is saying "hey guys, I'm best with mid/jungle but will play wherever I guess" having people say "no one cares what you think last pick, you take what's left," and then getting raged at when I'm not pro at whatever role they decide to stick me in.
I don't mind supporting when I'm last pick, it's a risk I accepted when clicking play. But when people say stuff like that, I'll break out the troll supports, because then they deserve them. (Only had one guy like that in forever, though.)
I don't really mind support, it's just a role that's never clicked with me. It's mostly the combination of being shoved into a role and then criticized for not exceeding expectations that gets to me. Of course, that happens no matter where you play.
The other thing I find is that more than any other role, it seems like when you're support people are even more inclined to tell you which champ to play, what summoners to take, and how to build. It's a little grating.
I want to play mid more, because I think it's what I'm best at. However, apparently everyone feels this way and since I'm last pick 90% of the time I almost always end up playing support or AD. As a result I spend the whole game making this face :?
My favorite part of last pick is saying "hey guys, I'm best with mid/jungle but will play wherever I guess" having people say "no one cares what you think last pick, you take what's left," and then getting raged at when I'm not pro at whatever role they decide to stick me in.
I don't mind supporting when I'm last pick, it's a risk I accepted when clicking play. But when people say stuff like that, I'll break out the troll supports, because then they deserve them. (Only had one guy like that in forever, though.)
which is weird to me because I always think support and jungle should be the roles locked down first, even if just to trade them to someone else.
I want to play mid more, because I think it's what I'm best at. However, apparently everyone feels this way and since I'm last pick 90% of the time I almost always end up playing support or AD. As a result I spend the whole game making this face :?
My favorite part of last pick is saying "hey guys, I'm best with mid/jungle but will play wherever I guess" having people say "no one cares what you think last pick, you take what's left," and then getting raged at when I'm not pro at whatever role they decide to stick me in.
I don't mind supporting when I'm last pick, it's a risk I accepted when clicking play. But when people say stuff like that, I'll break out the troll supports, because then they deserve them. (Only had one guy like that in forever, though.)
which is weird to me because I always think support and jungle should be the roles locked down first, even if just to trade them to someone else.
on the other hand, solo queue.
no way man, you gotta first pick insta-lock your AP mid so the enemy team knows exactly who to counter you with
I want to play mid more, because I think it's what I'm best at. However, apparently everyone feels this way and since I'm last pick 90% of the time I almost always end up playing support or AD. As a result I spend the whole game making this face :?
My favorite part of last pick is saying "hey guys, I'm best with mid/jungle but will play wherever I guess" having people say "no one cares what you think last pick, you take what's left," and then getting raged at when I'm not pro at whatever role they decide to stick me in.
I don't mind supporting when I'm last pick, it's a risk I accepted when clicking play. But when people say stuff like that, I'll break out the troll supports, because then they deserve them. (Only had one guy like that in forever, though.)
which is weird to me because I always think support and jungle should be the roles locked down first, even if just to trade them to someone else.
on the other hand, solo queue.
no way man, you gotta first pick insta-lock your AP mid so the enemy team knows exactly who to counter you with
I will run Jungle Hecarim 0/21/9 with MS Quints. 9.5% bonus speed, boots+3, and I'll start the game by running to the enemy Nexus and 1v5'ing their whole team.
It might be everyone's job to ward, but supports that don't even ward bot make me rage so hard.
My favorite is when you see the supports that buy wards (I guess because it was in the guide they're referencing) but then never get around to placing them.
It might be everyone's job to ward, but supports that don't even ward bot make me rage so hard.
I had an ali today (I was cait ofc) who didn't ward, spammed heals on our creeps and AOEs on theirs, and didn't buy any GP5s. It was a little frustrating!
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Oh hey, I tried reading all of the patch notes between August and here, but they were very long, and I got bored reading every champ note.
What was their solution for broken stealth? They did that temp fix where they got like 10 sec stealth or whatnot, I forget. So basically Twitch, Eve, probably not Shaco, but maybe, dunno.
heal on ads? Hmm how should I know if heal is the spell for me when I AD? I generally sivir or vayne in that role. Is heal for me then?
Heal is for when you want a safe laning phase pretty much, since most of the time you don't even want to be close enough to exhaust someone.
And priest, stealth. They haven't done anything about it yet. Eve is really bad, twitch is situational on people not understanding how easy he is to kill and shaco is permaban status due to being annoying as hell in pubs.
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Yeah, took a while to get used to the new flash. And exhaust is still in the game, the only removed one is rally, which was replaced by surge.
Surge is useful for some characters. Like Kayle. And Kayle. And possibly... Kayle.
Cho! Teemo. Dunno who else off the top of my head.
Initiate, I generally take Exhaust on Vayne since you have a bunch of escapes and you need it for that one fight every game where you tell the opposing team's carry that they're obsolete and can just go away now.
Oh hey, I tried reading all of the patch notes between August and here, but they were very long, and I got bored reading every champ note.
What was their solution for broken stealth? They did that temp fix where they got like 10 sec stealth or whatnot, I forget. So basically Twitch, Eve, probably not Shaco, but maybe, dunno.
Eve's nerfed into the ground and Twitch is... Twitch. Best played as a jungler.
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Early game the AD carry can not carry wards. That's fine. After you start putting shit together everyone needs to buy wards. I honestly don't know how people got this far without warding like a madman. When I was level 18 I was fucking warding both sides of the river as solo mid.
If you have the money for a ward or two when you return from base, you should buy them, it's simple as that. It's not going to noticeably slow down your build, and if a ward gets you a kill, prevents you from getting ganked, or prevents counterjungling, it's more than paid for itself. If people realize you're diligent about warding, they're going to stop trying to gank you. Or they'll spend money on Oracle's, and then you've set THEM behind a lot.
As a jungler, I really appreciate good warding. "Oh, he's getting ready to gank mid? Let's turn the tables," or "Oh, he's up top? I'll go counterjungle the bottom then."
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If I'm mid or top, I buy at least one ward on my first base. If I'm AD Bot, I tend to buy wards after I have a BF Sword/Vamp Scepter or 2-3 Dorans+Vamp Scepter.
Jungle... I buy wards sort of sporadically, I need to get a better feel for when and where to put them when jungling, but it's so dependant on who you are jungling -as- and who you are jungling -against- that I don't have a solid handle on it yet.
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I think it mostly roots in me disliking bot lane and passionately hating support. For myself, I want to suffer as little as possible while down there and it's generally possible to tell when your support is someone who doesn't want to be there and is just trying to make the most of it. Me being a selfish bastard is not going to help either of us, so I might as well be nice about it and lessen the pain. Then maybe karma will be good to me and let me top/jungle the next game.
And I played Lulu the other day with a Trist who didn't know her burst. No Trist, me hitting MF with lv1 q is not a sign for you to go balls deep. It's called harass. I do it so you can farm. Y U NO FARM!? So then I just farmed. Lulu is ok, I guess. She's cute to play, but I didn't take to her.
I forget to buy wards all the time! I've leveled 'Forget to ward' to 5 and left it there.
i feel sorry for you guys
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My favorite part of last pick is saying "hey guys, I'm best with mid/jungle but will play wherever I guess" having people say "no one cares what you think last pick, you take what's left," and then getting raged at when I'm not pro at whatever role they decide to stick me in.
This is where I am in my normal draft games. There's the occasional retard or rager, but it's mostly nice people who'd like to win. Except I think I'm in the 1000 ELO brakcet version, as everyone forgets wards all the time. (My retardation is contagious.)
I don't mind supporting when I'm last pick, it's a risk I accepted when clicking play. But when people say stuff like that, I'll break out the troll supports, because then they deserve them. (Only had one guy like that in forever, though.)
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I don't really mind support, it's just a role that's never clicked with me. It's mostly the combination of being shoved into a role and then criticized for not exceeding expectations that gets to me. Of course, that happens no matter where you play.
The other thing I find is that more than any other role, it seems like when you're support people are even more inclined to tell you which champ to play, what summoners to take, and how to build. It's a little grating.
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which is weird to me because I always think support and jungle should be the roles locked down first, even if just to trade them to someone else.
on the other hand, solo queue.
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no way man, you gotta first pick insta-lock your AP mid so the enemy team knows exactly who to counter you with
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but the answer is always kassadin
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That and there isn't a third-party site library to hook into so you'd have to rip the code and styles manually and hope they don't break constantly.
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My favorite is when you see the supports that buy wards (I guess because it was in the guide they're referencing) but then never get around to placing them.
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I had an ali today (I was cait ofc) who didn't ward, spammed heals on our creeps and AOEs on theirs, and didn't buy any GP5s. It was a little frustrating!
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Camera movement with the mouse seems very awkward and unresponsive since I came back. Also: New/Updated/Nerfed/Buffed Summoner Spells: FUUUUUUUUUU.
There, new summoners explained.
I know, but I miss exhaust (Edit: useful Exhuast)
Surge is useful for some characters. Like Kayle. And Kayle. And possibly... Kayle.
Next week free champs;
•Galio
•Morgana
•Dr.Mundo
•Viktor
•Poppy
•Skarner
•Alistar
•Kogmaw
•Teemo
•Heimerdinger
Poppy, Skarner... and a newly buffed Teemo. Prepare for Teemo in every game, gents.
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Every time I experience that it turns out Razer uninstalled my mouse drivers to update them.
What was their solution for broken stealth? They did that temp fix where they got like 10 sec stealth or whatnot, I forget. So basically Twitch, Eve, probably not Shaco, but maybe, dunno.
Heal is for when you want a safe laning phase pretty much, since most of the time you don't even want to be close enough to exhaust someone.
And priest, stealth. They haven't done anything about it yet. Eve is really bad, twitch is situational on people not understanding how easy he is to kill and shaco is permaban status due to being annoying as hell in pubs.
Cho! Teemo. Dunno who else off the top of my head.
Initiate, I generally take Exhaust on Vayne since you have a bunch of escapes and you need it for that one fight every game where you tell the opposing team's carry that they're obsolete and can just go away now.
Eve's nerfed into the ground and Twitch is... Twitch. Best played as a jungler.