I have Alien and Aliens sitting on my shelf but some people have suggested that I just wait for Prometheus, even though the Prometheus trailer that was shown before The Avengers was awful
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Zonugal(He/Him) The Holiday ArmadilloI'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered Userregular
Terminator 1 is great, but T2 makes it kinda irrelevant. I've never seen a sequel stand so well on its own as T2 does.
Aliens? Rambo: First Blood Part 2? True Lies?
I have seen none of these
Aliens and True Lies are good. Couldn't get through five minutes of Rambo 2
considering how he's being let go from prison by the military when Rambo's crippled and killed cops and who knows how many other poor bastards who got in his way when he went nuts in the first film.
What the hell? Do you remember the first film?
He injures some cops & national guard members, and one cop is accidentally killed (primarily by his own blood-lust).
For as intense as his rampage is, he's pretty non-lethal within it.
Nope, it's an international agency. Marvel probably made sure their logos resemble America's since their comics primarily cater to the American market.
I have Alien and Aliens sitting on my shelf but some people have suggested that I just wait for Prometheus, even though the Prometheus trailer that was shown before The Avengers was awful
These people are wrong.
Go watch Alien & Aliens.
DO IT!!!
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Zonugal(He/Him) The Holiday ArmadilloI'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered Userregular
I have Alien and Aliens sitting on my shelf but some people have suggested that I just wait for Prometheus, even though the Prometheus trailer that was shown before The Avengers was awful
Coulson's bit in IM is easily explainable as a ploy they use to make people think they're from the US government. Kind of how the Agents in MiB did their thing.
The shield on the logo looks decidedly American, though, so I got nothing for that. The logo itself doesn't look explicitly US though, just the shield.
Terminator 1 is great, but T2 makes it kinda irrelevant. I've never seen a sequel stand so well on its own as T2 does.
Aliens? Rambo: First Blood Part 2? True Lies?
I have seen none of these
Aliens and True Lies are good. Couldn't get through five minutes of Rambo 2
considering how he's being let go from prison by the military when Rambo's crippled and killed cops and who knows how many other poor bastards who got in his way when he went nuts in the first film.
What the hell? Do you remember the first film?
He injures some cops & national guard members, and one cop is accidentally killed (primarily by his own blood-lust).
For as intense as his rampage is, he's pretty non-lethal within it.
IIRC I remember he killed a cop who got injured in a beartrap he set up then threaten the other who ran away for his life. Either way he was the villain in the film. Rambo may have held back but he was still a large menace to society and law enforcement for going psycho on them.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
I would pay all the dollars for a Nick Fury: Agent of Shield movie starring Samuel L. Jackson.
And Jackson is old as fuck right now, shit.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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Zonugal(He/Him) The Holiday ArmadilloI'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered Userregular
Terminator 1 is great, but T2 makes it kinda irrelevant. I've never seen a sequel stand so well on its own as T2 does.
Aliens? Rambo: First Blood Part 2? True Lies?
I have seen none of these
Aliens and True Lies are good. Couldn't get through five minutes of Rambo 2
considering how he's being let go from prison by the military when Rambo's crippled and killed cops and who knows how many other poor bastards who got in his way when he went nuts in the first film.
What the hell? Do you remember the first film?
He injures some cops & national guard members, and one cop is accidentally killed (primarily by his own blood-lust).
For as intense as his rampage is, he's pretty non-lethal within it.
IIRC I remember he killed a cop who got injured in a beartrap he set up then threaten the other who ran away for his life. Either way he was the villain in the film. Rambo may have held back but he was still a large menace to society and law enforcement for going psycho on them.
I don't think we saw the same film.
Because Rambo is not a villain.
The cops who arrest him for entering the town and than decided to full on hunt him down when he suffers a PTSD incident are the villains.
Moviegoers and comic fans know that S.H.I.E.L.D., led by Samuel L. Jackson’s super-spy Nick Fury, is an international peacekeeping/global surveillance/crisis response/quasi-military organization. But its relationship with the United States is murky. And that basically stopped the U.S. military, which is normally eager to cooperate with the film industry on blockbuster movies, from teaming up with the Avengers.
“We couldn’t reconcile the unreality of this international organization and our place in it,” Phil Strub, the Defense Department’s Hollywood liaison, tells Danger Room. “To whom did S.H.I.E.L.D. answer? Did we work for S.H.I.E.L.D.? We hit that roadblock and decided we couldn’t do anything” with the film.
SHIELD answers to Nick Fucking Fury and he's saved the Earth from annihilation more times than anyone will ever know.
Fury is actually kind of a superhero himself. He has a scary amount of power as Director of SHIELD, and since he's a spy at heart he does have a dirty side. All in all, though, he's on the side of the angels and thank God for that.
Fury's not a super-hero. He doesn't need to hide behind a cape or mask to save the world.
Fury's not a superhero and he does need people wearing both capes and masks to save the world
I never like "SHIELD does all the real work" stories. No, I am pretty sure Thor beating up Surtur when he launched another invasion of Earth is the real work, and SHIELD couldn't do shit about it if they tried.
Nope, it's an international agency. Marvel probably made sure their logos resemble America's since their comics primarily cater to the American market.
but then... why does Coulson claim to be from the government? why is literally every agent but Black Widow an American? why does the acronym have "Homeland" in there?
edit: ok fair enough on Coulson lying, but don't tell me "Homeland" refers to the Earth, because dealing with aliens is SWORD's job
Joolander on
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Zonugal(He/Him) The Holiday ArmadilloI'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered Userregular
Terminator 1 is great, but T2 makes it kinda irrelevant. I've never seen a sequel stand so well on its own as T2 does.
Aliens? Rambo: First Blood Part 2? True Lies?
I have seen none of these
Aliens and True Lies are good. Couldn't get through five minutes of Rambo 2
considering how he's being let go from prison by the military when Rambo's crippled and killed cops and who knows how many other poor bastards who got in his way when he went nuts in the first film.
What the hell? Do you remember the first film?
He injures some cops & national guard members, and one cop is accidentally killed (primarily by his own blood-lust).
For as intense as his rampage is, he's pretty non-lethal within it.
IIRC I remember he killed a cop who got injured in a beartrap he set up then threaten the other who ran away for his life. Either way he was the villain in the film. Rambo may have held back but he was still a large menace to society and law enforcement for going psycho on them.
I don't think we saw the same film.
Because Rambo is not a villain.
The cops who arrest him for entering the town and than decided to full on hunt him down when he suffers a PTSD incident are the villains.
That's my take on the film as well.
Getting forcibly deloused and fucked with for several hours by jackasses, caused him to go completely off the reservation. In the beginning he was using the hope of meeting one of his fellow special forces veterans as his only attachment and grounding in the world he returned too, having that taken away and then being treated like shit does not a villain make.
No matter where you go...there you are. ~ Buckaroo Banzai
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Just think of S.H.I.E.L.D. as US-led. Like if the UN and NATO got together and gave birth to an organization that was actually useful.
Nope, it's an international agency. Marvel probably made sure their logos resemble America's since their comics primarily cater to the American market.
but then... why does Coulson claim to be from the government? why is literally every agent but Black Widow an American? why does the acronym have "Homeland" in there?
edit: ok fair enough on Coulson lying, but don't tell me "Homeland" refers to the Earth, because dealing with aliens is SWORD's job
Well, SHIELD is based on earth, and while it may deal with cosmic stuff, it will only do so purely in defense of Earth.
That and I don't think they're going to go get into SWORD in the movies. Don't think it'll play as well.
Terminator 1 is great, but T2 makes it kinda irrelevant. I've never seen a sequel stand so well on its own as T2 does.
Aliens? Rambo: First Blood Part 2? True Lies?
I have seen none of these
Aliens and True Lies are good. Couldn't get through five minutes of Rambo 2
considering how he's being let go from prison by the military when Rambo's crippled and killed cops and who knows how many other poor bastards who got in his way when he went nuts in the first film.
What the hell? Do you remember the first film?
He injures some cops & national guard members, and one cop is accidentally killed (primarily by his own blood-lust).
For as intense as his rampage is, he's pretty non-lethal within it.
IIRC I remember he killed a cop who got injured in a beartrap he set up then threaten the other who ran away for his life. Either way he was the villain in the film. Rambo may have held back but he was still a large menace to society and law enforcement for going psycho on them.
I don't think we saw the same film.
Because Rambo is not a villain.
The cops who arrest him for entering the town and than decided to full on hunt him down when he suffers a PTSD incident are the villains.
That's my take on the film as well.
Getting forcibly deloused and fucked with for several hours by jackasses, caused him to go completely off the reservation. In the beginning he was using the hope of meeting one of his fellow special forces veterans as his only attachment and grounding in the world he returned too, having that taken away and then being treated like shit does not a villain make.
Rambo was treated horribly by the local authorities and he was having a mental breakdown. But whatever they did they didn't deserve him to go on a rampage hurting people. Escalating things where the military had to bought in to take him down. I'd call him an anti-villain not a mustache swirling criminal. That said, it's been a few years since I've seen the film so I may be mistaken.
Moviegoers and comic fans know that S.H.I.E.L.D., led by Samuel L. Jackson’s super-spy Nick Fury, is an international peacekeeping/global surveillance/crisis response/quasi-military organization. But its relationship with the United States is murky. And that basically stopped the U.S. military, which is normally eager to cooperate with the film industry on blockbuster movies, from teaming up with the Avengers.
“We couldn’t reconcile the unreality of this international organization and our place in it,” Phil Strub, the Defense Department’s Hollywood liaison, tells Danger Room. “To whom did S.H.I.E.L.D. answer? Did we work for S.H.I.E.L.D.? We hit that roadblock and decided we couldn’t do anything” with the film.
SHIELD answers to Nick Fucking Fury and he's saved the Earth from annihilation more times than anyone will ever know.
Fury is actually kind of a superhero himself. He has a scary amount of power as Director of SHIELD, and since he's a spy at heart he does have a dirty side. All in all, though, he's on the side of the angels and thank God for that.
Fury's not a super-hero. He doesn't need to hide behind a cape or mask to save the world.
Fury's not a superhero and he does need people wearing both capes and masks to save the world
I never like "SHIELD does all the real work" stories. No, I am pretty sure Thor beating up Surtur when he launched another invasion of Earth is the real work, and SHIELD couldn't do shit about it if they tried.
SHIELD has their place like the super-heroes do. They need each other to protect the world. However, I like versions of SHIELD that are competent enough to keep up with the supers or they risk looking pathetic.
Terminator 1 is great, but T2 makes it kinda irrelevant. I've never seen a sequel stand so well on its own as T2 does.
Aliens? Rambo: First Blood Part 2? True Lies?
I have seen none of these
Aliens and True Lies are good. Couldn't get through five minutes of Rambo 2
considering how he's being let go from prison by the military when Rambo's crippled and killed cops and who knows how many other poor bastards who got in his way when he went nuts in the first film.
What the hell? Do you remember the first film?
He injures some cops & national guard members, and one cop is accidentally killed (primarily by his own blood-lust).
For as intense as his rampage is, he's pretty non-lethal within it.
IIRC I remember he killed a cop who got injured in a beartrap he set up then threaten the other who ran away for his life. Either way he was the villain in the film. Rambo may have held back but he was still a large menace to society and law enforcement for going psycho on them.
I don't think we saw the same film.
Because Rambo is not a villain.
The cops who arrest him for entering the town and than decided to full on hunt him down when he suffers a PTSD incident are the villains.
That's my take on the film as well.
Getting forcibly deloused and fucked with for several hours by jackasses, caused him to go completely off the reservation. In the beginning he was using the hope of meeting one of his fellow special forces veterans as his only attachment and grounding in the world he returned too, having that taken away and then being treated like shit does not a villain make.
Rambo was treated horribly by the local authorities and he was having a mental breakdown. But whatever they did they didn't deserve him to go on a rampage hurting people. Escalating things where the military had to bought in to take him down. I'd call him an anti-villain not a mustache swirling criminal. That said, it's been a few years since I've seen the film so I may be mistaken.
He didn't go on a rampage. He broke out of the police station and ran. They chased him. Everybody he hurt were either trying to shoot him or visit some sort of violence upon him.
Moviegoers and comic fans know that S.H.I.E.L.D., led by Samuel L. Jackson’s super-spy Nick Fury, is an international peacekeeping/global surveillance/crisis response/quasi-military organization. But its relationship with the United States is murky. And that basically stopped the U.S. military, which is normally eager to cooperate with the film industry on blockbuster movies, from teaming up with the Avengers.
“We couldn’t reconcile the unreality of this international organization and our place in it,” Phil Strub, the Defense Department’s Hollywood liaison, tells Danger Room. “To whom did S.H.I.E.L.D. answer? Did we work for S.H.I.E.L.D.? We hit that roadblock and decided we couldn’t do anything” with the film.
SHIELD answers to Nick Fucking Fury and he's saved the Earth from annihilation more times than anyone will ever know.
Fury is actually kind of a superhero himself. He has a scary amount of power as Director of SHIELD, and since he's a spy at heart he does have a dirty side. All in all, though, he's on the side of the angels and thank God for that.
Fury's not a super-hero. He doesn't need to hide behind a cape or mask to save the world.
Fury's not a superhero and he does need people wearing both capes and masks to save the world
I never like "SHIELD does all the real work" stories. No, I am pretty sure Thor beating up Surtur when he launched another invasion of Earth is the real work, and SHIELD couldn't do shit about it if they tried.
SHIELD has their place like the super-heroes do. They need each other to protect the world. However, I like versions of SHIELD that are competent enough to keep up with the supers or they risk looking pathetic.
Ehhh
I am pretty sure that Thor doesn't need SHIELD to back him up when he fights Surtur either
My preferred place for SHIELD in a lot of stories is having their asses pulled out of the fire by superheroes
I like the new SHIELD because it basically makes them super in their own way, and thus cooler.
Nope, it's an international agency. Marvel probably made sure their logos resemble America's since their comics primarily cater to the American market.
but then... why does Coulson claim to be from the government? why is literally every agent but Black Widow an American? why does the acronym have "Homeland" in there?
edit: ok fair enough on Coulson lying, but don't tell me "Homeland" refers to the Earth, because dealing with aliens is SWORD's job
Well, SHIELD is based on earth, and while it may deal with cosmic stuff, it will only do so purely in defense of Earth.
That and I don't think they're going to go get into SWORD in the movies. Don't think it'll play as well.
Terminator 1 is great, but T2 makes it kinda irrelevant. I've never seen a sequel stand so well on its own as T2 does.
Aliens? Rambo: First Blood Part 2? True Lies?
I have seen none of these
Aliens and True Lies are good. Couldn't get through five minutes of Rambo 2
considering how he's being let go from prison by the military when Rambo's crippled and killed cops and who knows how many other poor bastards who got in his way when he went nuts in the first film.
What the hell? Do you remember the first film?
He injures some cops & national guard members, and one cop is accidentally killed (primarily by his own blood-lust).
For as intense as his rampage is, he's pretty non-lethal within it.
IIRC I remember he killed a cop who got injured in a beartrap he set up then threaten the other who ran away for his life. Either way he was the villain in the film. Rambo may have held back but he was still a large menace to society and law enforcement for going psycho on them.
I don't think we saw the same film.
Because Rambo is not a villain.
The cops who arrest him for entering the town and than decided to full on hunt him down when he suffers a PTSD incident are the villains.
That's my take on the film as well.
Getting forcibly deloused and fucked with for several hours by jackasses, caused him to go completely off the reservation. In the beginning he was using the hope of meeting one of his fellow special forces veterans as his only attachment and grounding in the world he returned too, having that taken away and then being treated like shit does not a villain make.
Rambo was treated horribly by the local authorities and he was having a mental breakdown. But whatever they did they didn't deserve him to go on a rampage hurting people. Escalating things where the military had to bought in to take him down. I'd call him an anti-villain not a mustache swirling criminal. That said, it's been a few years since I've seen the film so I may be mistaken.
You are mistaken.
You are over-looking the fact that the police consistently escalate the situation.
The last part of the film isn't exactly heroic on the part of Rambo, where he is shooting up the town, but this is likely his descent into a full-on breakdown.
I mean, do you think this is the ending monologue from a villain?
the fact that he goes out of his way not to kill people in the movie shows that pretty clearly
Yet he was still hurting people. He's not McClane going against terrorists, he was attacking police (who were definitely bad guys though they weren't horribly corrupt or crooked like asshole cops are in films) who were abusing their power against him. That doesn't give him the right to maim anyone in a police uniform for going off the deep end. had the cops been really bad villains they'd have done everything in their power to frame, torture or kill him and done a much better job with it, like calling in outside forces like gangs or mercenaries. Instead they called on his uncorrupt mentor who Rambo almost killed for trying to talk him down IIRC.
I've divided my time over the last 16 years over deep ocean exploration and filmmaking. I've made two movies in 16 years, and I've done eight expeditions. Last year I basically completely disbanded my production company's development arm. So I'm not interested in developing anything. I'm in the “Avatar” business. Period. That's it. I'm making "Avatar 2," "Avatar 3," maybe "Avatar 4," and I'm not going to produce other people's movies for them. I'm not interested in taking scripts. And that all sounds I suppose a little bit restricted, but the point is I think within the "Avatar" landscape I can say everything I need to say that I think needs to be said, in terms of the state of the world and what I think we need to be doing about it.
What was he saying with Avatar again? "Here's a cliche story you've already seen before?" or "Here, watch this movie in 3D so people will invest in my technology company?"
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You should remedy this.
What the hell? Do you remember the first film?
He injures some cops & national guard members, and one cop is accidentally killed (primarily by his own blood-lust).
For as intense as his rampage is, he's pretty non-lethal within it.
Nope, it's an international agency. Marvel probably made sure their logos resemble America's since their comics primarily cater to the American market.
These people are wrong.
Go watch Alien & Aliens.
DO IT!!!
Nah, just reply that James Cameron has given us more than just Terminator 2.
But it's like
Over there
On the shelf
I'm playing Trials
The shield on the logo looks decidedly American, though, so I got nothing for that. The logo itself doesn't look explicitly US though, just the shield.
And Jackson is old as fuck right now, shit.
I don't think we saw the same film.
Because Rambo is not a villain.
The cops who arrest him for entering the town and than decided to full on hunt him down when he suffers a PTSD incident are the villains.
Fury's not a superhero and he does need people wearing both capes and masks to save the world
I never like "SHIELD does all the real work" stories. No, I am pretty sure Thor beating up Surtur when he launched another invasion of Earth is the real work, and SHIELD couldn't do shit about it if they tried.
but then... why does Coulson claim to be from the government? why is literally every agent but Black Widow an American? why does the acronym have "Homeland" in there?
edit: ok fair enough on Coulson lying, but don't tell me "Homeland" refers to the Earth, because dealing with aliens is SWORD's job
Don't worry, I hear 63 is the new 43.
by far
That's my take on the film as well.
Getting forcibly deloused and fucked with for several hours by jackasses, caused him to go completely off the reservation. In the beginning he was using the hope of meeting one of his fellow special forces veterans as his only attachment and grounding in the world he returned too, having that taken away and then being treated like shit does not a villain make.
~ Buckaroo Banzai
the fact that he goes out of his way not to kill people in the movie shows that pretty clearly
Well, SHIELD is based on earth, and while it may deal with cosmic stuff, it will only do so purely in defense of Earth.
That and I don't think they're going to go get into SWORD in the movies. Don't think it'll play as well.
Rambo was treated horribly by the local authorities and he was having a mental breakdown. But whatever they did they didn't deserve him to go on a rampage hurting people. Escalating things where the military had to bought in to take him down. I'd call him an anti-villain not a mustache swirling criminal. That said, it's been a few years since I've seen the film so I may be mistaken.
SHIELD has their place like the super-heroes do. They need each other to protect the world. However, I like versions of SHIELD that are competent enough to keep up with the supers or they risk looking pathetic.
He didn't go on a rampage. He broke out of the police station and ran. They chased him. Everybody he hurt were either trying to shoot him or visit some sort of violence upon him.
Ehhh
I am pretty sure that Thor doesn't need SHIELD to back him up when he fights Surtur either
My preferred place for SHIELD in a lot of stories is having their asses pulled out of the fire by superheroes
I like the new SHIELD because it basically makes them super in their own way, and thus cooler.
They were pretty cool in Thor, too.
"WTF is that? Feh, probably one of Stark's OH SHIT RUN BITCH!"
well I mean apparently they are doing a Guardians of the Galaxy movie
comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=89190
which is just a tad more out there than SWORD I think, so it might happen
Half the team are on the north side of 40 (RDJ's 47, Ruffalo is 44, Renner is 41), so they really need to churn shit out while they can.
Cap, Thor, and Widow have all the time in the world though (30, 28, 27).
~ Buckaroo Banzai
In vaguely related discussion is "Fury's Big Week" worth reading?
You are mistaken.
You are over-looking the fact that the police consistently escalate the situation.
The last part of the film isn't exactly heroic on the part of Rambo, where he is shooting up the town, but this is likely his descent into a full-on breakdown.
I mean, do you think this is the ending monologue from a villain?
Yet he was still hurting people. He's not McClane going against terrorists, he was attacking police (who were definitely bad guys though they weren't horribly corrupt or crooked like asshole cops are in films) who were abusing their power against him. That doesn't give him the right to maim anyone in a police uniform for going off the deep end. had the cops been really bad villains they'd have done everything in their power to frame, torture or kill him and done a much better job with it, like calling in outside forces like gangs or mercenaries. Instead they called on his uncorrupt mentor who Rambo almost killed for trying to talk him down IIRC.
only two years younger than Tommy Lee Jones
god damn
What was he saying with Avatar again? "Here's a cliche story you've already seen before?" or "Here, watch this movie in 3D so people will invest in my technology company?"
really though if they treat it like how the CIA and Army Intelligence would argue over jurisdiction and it'd be fine
Like I said a few posts ago, half the team is pretty long in the tooth, so Marvel needs to churn shit out while they can.
RDJ is 47, Ruffalo 44, Renner 41.
Although Renner is a health freak (approaching Ryan Reynold's abs territory) and should be able to do Hawkeye for quite awhile.
~ Buckaroo Banzai