Confused: I am at a bar. Talking to Russian bartender. "Casually" drop that I co-organize a meetup for Eastern Europeans. Ask her for number of place so I can talk to manager. She gives me the business card of the place and writes her cell phone number on the back. She's excessively hot. I'm a chubby asshole. What is her cell number for?
You asked her for "number of place so I can talk to manager".
She gave you a number.
Presumably, the number is for the place, so you can talk to manager.
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SarksusATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered Userregular
Confused: I am at a bar. Talking to Russian bartender. "Casually" drop that I co-organize a meetup for Eastern Europeans. Ask her for number of place so I can talk to manager. She gives me the business card of the place and writes her cell phone number on the back. She's excessively hot. I'm a chubby asshole. What is her cell number for?
This is what you will do: The next meet up you organize call her (text her, whatever) and invite her. But make it a "Just wanted to give you a heads up, the next meet up is happening (when/where)."
Play it cool. I hear Russians like that.
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SarksusATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered Userregular
I didn't think GW was developed by americans. I thought it was asian.
ArenaNet is based in Seattle and was founded by ex-Diablo developers.
Oh I thought GW was NCSoft
They are the publisher but they own other American companies too. City of Heroes is American and also NCSoft.
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LudiousI just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered Userregular
Avengers is sporting 97% on RT. Only has 2 negative reviews, and at least one of those reviews is mislabeled, because their score for the movie was 3 out 5 which is over 60% which is not rotten by RT's standards.
Warhammer: Online went into the shitter after T3 for me. T4 was even worse. But the real kicker was that the city sieges was just fucking awful and basically involved little PVP
just a big shitty public quest that required ridiculous PVE gear
hehe, I couldn't even get more than a little way into Tier 2 before the wife and I gave it up. And we both had collectors edition boxes (though the minis and such that came with it were damn nice)
I like that we've come to a point in our understanding of MMOs where we ask if it "feels grindy" instead of asking if it "is grindy".
It's as if we've all accepted that MMOs are, fundamentally, gigantic grinding / farming enterprises. So now what we want is the illusion that we aren't grinding.
It's kind of adorable.
I know this is exactly the kind of thing you will pretend not to understand in an elaborate troll, but how is paying attention to the emotional response to a videogame "adorable"? As opposed to "the entire fucking point"?
It presumes something objective to emotive responses. The answer to the question of whether X "feels" grindy will depending upon the feeling mechanism of the entity in question. This is especially true if we take "grindy" to be a pejorative that stands in the place of "boring". So we're asking "Does GW2 feel boring", as if there was a universal rubric for discerning what does or does not cause the emotive response of feeling bored.
I just think it's an adorable way to assess MMOs. Rather than accept that they are elaborate graphical user interfaces over databases, we try to gussy them up as somehow not grindy by masking the grind. It's delving further into the illusion, rather than simply accepting that an MMO is a clicky clickfest of clicks.
But, you know, robot.
the bolded is true of every videogame ever.
Yes.
That has been my point every time we've had this argument on the forum.
I like that we've come to a point in our understanding of MMOs where we ask if it "feels grindy" instead of asking if it "is grindy".
It's as if we've all accepted that MMOs are, fundamentally, gigantic grinding / farming enterprises. So now what we want is the illusion that we aren't grinding.
It's kind of adorable.
I know this is exactly the kind of thing you will pretend not to understand in an elaborate troll, but how is paying attention to the emotional response to a videogame "adorable"? As opposed to "the entire fucking point"?
It presumes something objective to emotive responses. The answer to the question of whether X "feels" grindy will depending upon the feeling mechanism of the entity in question. This is especially true if we take "grindy" to be a pejorative that stands in the place of "boring". So we're asking "Does GW2 feel boring", as if there was a universal rubric for discerning what does or does not cause the emotive response of feeling bored.
I just think it's an adorable way to assess MMOs. Rather than accept that they are elaborate graphical user interfaces over databases, we try to gussy them up as somehow not grindy by masking the grind. It's delving further into the illusion, rather than simply accepting that an MMO is a clicky clickfest of clicks.
But, you know, robot.
the bolded is true of every videogame ever.
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SarksusATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered Userregular
I like that we've come to a point in our understanding of MMOs where we ask if it "feels grindy" instead of asking if it "is grindy".
It's as if we've all accepted that MMOs are, fundamentally, gigantic grinding / farming enterprises. So now what we want is the illusion that we aren't grinding.
It's kind of adorable.
I know this is exactly the kind of thing you will pretend not to understand in an elaborate troll, but how is paying attention to the emotional response to a videogame "adorable"? As opposed to "the entire fucking point"?
It presumes something objective to emotive responses. The answer to the question of whether X "feels" grindy will depending upon the feeling mechanism of the entity in question. This is especially true if we take "grindy" to be a pejorative that stands in the place of "boring". So we're asking "Does GW2 feel boring", as if there was a universal rubric for discerning what does or does not cause the emotive response of feeling bored.
I just think it's an adorable way to assess MMOs. Rather than accept that they are elaborate graphical user interfaces over databases, we try to gussy them up as somehow not grindy by masking the grind. It's delving further into the illusion, rather than simply accepting that an MMO is a clicky clickfest of clicks.
But, you know, robot.
They don't have to be that way, and I wouldn't characterize Guild Wars 2 in that way.
Confused: I am at a bar. Talking to Russian bartender. "Casually" drop that I co-organize a meetup for Eastern Europeans. Ask her for number of place so I can talk to manager. She gives me the business card of the place and writes her cell phone number on the back. She's excessively hot. I'm a chubby asshole. What is her cell number for?
This is what you will do: The next meet up you organize call her (text her, whatever) and invite her. But make it a "Just wanted to give you a heads up, the next meet up is happening (when/where)."
I like that we've come to a point in our understanding of MMOs where we ask if it "feels grindy" instead of asking if it "is grindy".
It's as if we've all accepted that MMOs are, fundamentally, gigantic grinding / farming enterprises. So now what we want is the illusion that we aren't grinding.
It's kind of adorable.
I know this is exactly the kind of thing you will pretend not to understand in an elaborate troll, but how is paying attention to the emotional response to a videogame "adorable"? As opposed to "the entire fucking point"?
It presumes something objective to emotive responses. The answer to the question of whether X "feels" grindy will depending upon the feeling mechanism of the entity in question. This is especially true if we take "grindy" to be a pejorative that stands in the place of "boring". So we're asking "Does GW2 feel boring", as if there was a universal rubric for discerning what does or does not cause the emotive response of feeling bored.
I just think it's an adorable way to assess MMOs. Rather than accept that they are elaborate graphical user interfaces over databases, we try to gussy them up as somehow not grindy by masking the grind. It's delving further into the illusion, rather than simply accepting that an MMO is a clicky clickfest of clicks.
But, you know, robot.
the bolded is true of every videogame ever.
Yes.
That has been my point every time we've had this argument on the forum.
and once again you completely miss the value of how good - or not - that elaborate graphical user interface really is.
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LudiousI just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered Userregular
Chris Evans is ugly as fuck without hair.
He's just one of those guys that looks like a cancer patient with a shaved head.
Games are elaborate lies in many ways but I don't see that as a problem. That is the point of a video game.
"Lie" may be too strong a word.
Pretty pictures over a mathematical system is, perhaps, a more accurate description.
When people priviledge the pictures over the system, they're confusing what's really going on.
I don't think it's absurd to notice this. There does seem to be a trend that occurs where one shifts from the "oo this is novel and shiny and pretty" to "ok, let's figure out the system" when gaming.
Confused: I am at a bar. Talking to Russian bartender. "Casually" drop that I co-organize a meetup for Eastern Europeans. Ask her for number of place so I can talk to manager. She gives me the business card of the place and writes her cell phone number on the back. She's excessively hot. I'm a chubby asshole. What is her cell number for?
This is what you will do: The next meet up you organize call her (text her, whatever) and invite her. But make it a "Just wanted to give you a heads up, the next meet up is happening (when/where)."
Play it cool. I hear Russians like that.
Alright, change of plan...
(smoking is gross kids, just say no)
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LudiousI just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered Userregular
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I want to see a Coulson: Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. movie so bad.
Confused: I am at a bar. Talking to Russian bartender. "Casually" drop that I co-organize a meetup for Eastern Europeans. Ask her for number of place so I can talk to manager. She gives me the business card of the place and writes her cell phone number on the back. She's excessively hot. I'm a chubby asshole. What is her cell number for?
:winky:
You know what's weird, Mim? For some reason, you popped into my head as I was typing this post. I have no idea why. But anyways...
Interpreting games like that just isn't helpful or useful to me. It's also rather disparaging.
It's a description rather than an interpretation.
Interpretation is what happens when on priviledges the pictures / experience over the code.
Description is 1001010100100101011101010101.
hehe, from what possible point of view is that a description rather than an interpretation.
Because from the point of view of how games are actually structured in terms of code it isn't true. Well ok it's true for a tiny minority of games (Caesar IV comes to mind) but usually it's not.
Confused: I am at a bar. Talking to Russian bartender. "Casually" drop that I co-organize a meetup for Eastern Europeans. Ask her for number of place so I can talk to manager. She gives me the business card of the place and writes her cell phone number on the back. She's excessively hot. I'm a chubby asshole. What is her cell number for?
:winky:
You know what's weird, Mim? For some reason, you popped into my head as I was typing this post. I have no idea why. But anyways...
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You asked her for "number of place so I can talk to manager".
She gave you a number.
Presumably, the number is for the place, so you can talk to manager.
They are the publisher, but NCSoft owns other American companies too. City of Heroes is also American.
if you were my robot I'd disassemble you
This is what you will do: The next meet up you organize call her (text her, whatever) and invite her. But make it a "Just wanted to give you a heads up, the next meet up is happening (when/where)."
Play it cool. I hear Russians like that.
They are the publisher but they own other American companies too. City of Heroes is American and also NCSoft.
hehe, I couldn't even get more than a little way into Tier 2 before the wife and I gave it up. And we both had collectors edition boxes (though the minis and such that came with it were damn nice)
Yes.
That has been my point every time we've had this argument on the forum.
the bolded is true of every videogame ever.
They don't have to be that way, and I wouldn't characterize Guild Wars 2 in that way.
however!
my excitement is curbed every time i remember it's not just an iron man and captain america buddy cop movie
i give zero shits about hawkeye, thor, black widow or the hulk
My interface is more than graphical, baby.
to be fair
and once again you completely miss the value of how good - or not - that elaborate graphical user interface really is.
He's just one of those guys that looks like a cancer patient with a shaved head.
"Lie" may be too strong a word.
Pretty pictures over a mathematical system is, perhaps, a more accurate description.
When people priviledge the pictures over the system, they're confusing what's really going on.
I don't think it's absurd to notice this. There does seem to be a trend that occurs where one shifts from the "oo this is novel and shiny and pretty" to "ok, let's figure out the system" when gaming.
Alright, change of plan...
(smoking is gross kids, just say no)
It's a description rather than an interpretation.
Interpretation is what happens when on priviledges the pictures / experience over the code.
Description is 1001010100100101011101010101.
there is one muscle in my back that just hates it when I use that lawnmower.
DID HE SHAVE HIS HEAD?!
it's about as dumb as saying you can't change art
You know what's weird, Mim? For some reason, you popped into my head as I was typing this post. I have no idea why. But anyways...
hehe, from what possible point of view is that a description rather than an interpretation.
Because from the point of view of how games are actually structured in terms of code it isn't true. Well ok it's true for a tiny minority of games (Caesar IV comes to mind) but usually it's not.
actual factual honest to god sex with the penis in the vagina
TOO BAD I DON'T GET TO HAVE IT ANY TIME SOON
it is not too terrible!
don't stop
Baldness could be a thing of the past with just a few shiny headed super hunks.
Her: "Text me so I know it's you."
I have no idea what just happened. She is mega hot
I was controlling the Russian.
Its locally meaning is "nice to meet you"
according to google translate.
*shrug*
You da man Drez. You --+>da man.