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[Rage of Bahamut] Manor of (Dis)illusions F2P CCG. Dragons. Cards. Boobies.

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  • ThemadcowThemadcow Registered User regular
    The more I look at it, the more I think this event might not be worth it unless you get lucky redeeming the Maze Flowers (which appear to have very nice rewards...)

  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    Anybody notice the "Devil Princess" high rare reward at 500k Sylvan Berries?

  • MaguanoMaguano Registered User regular
    you mean a HN devil princess? i got one for turning in the blue flower/berry things

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  • VorpalVorpal Registered User regular
    You can get 20 Devil Queens and 20 Devil Princesses for turning in those maze flowers.

    This is making the value of devil queens absolutely plummet.

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  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    Yeah, high normal. What's it do, 25% skillup chance?

  • ninjuraininjurai Registered User regular
    Themadcow wrote: »
    This is a.... confusing system. Clear from the start though that it's pointless using HP (or whatever the new thing is) until later in the event when the proper bosses appear.

    Confusing indeed. Maybe that will make it easier to rank well, perhaps you can get sub3k again. Looks like cw is rising in value because the good monsters take some work to flush out. You prolly just doublef on that cw investment, good call. They might realse packs with cw soon tho so watchout. Wonder if the price will continue to rise.

    I had to buy ff Thor when I saw him for 190. He's still a beast even if kitsune is better. Hopeing I can pickup kitsunes for 75 ish when her event utility expires.

  • BluecyanBluecyan Buzz.. Buzz Buzz? BUZZ! Buzz buzz BuzzRegistered User regular
    I'd wager that when people get to the later stages and monsters will take more than one hit to defeat and start to be shared more often we'll be back to having a full queue of monsters. When that happens it'll probably be more of an issue to clear out space in Defeat a Monster to put the good hunts than actually being able to capitalize on opening the gates.

    Anyone know how the monster hunter skills work exactly? Does it multiply the groups attack that it based in, or just the individual card? I'm basically wondering if there is any strategy in deck configuration, or if you just throw your top three skill cards into the group leader positions and then your best attack cards anywhere else.

  • AuburnTigerAuburnTiger Registered User regular
    I'm downloading this. Anyone got a code they want me to use?

    XBL: Flex MythoMass
  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
  • AuburnTigerAuburnTiger Registered User regular
    Rius wrote: »
    Mine is hsb86215, if you like.

    I'll use it as soon as I create a mobage account.

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  • MaguanoMaguano Registered User regular
    @AuburnTiger let us know what realm/race/color? you pick. might have some cards to help you out.

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  • ThemadcowThemadcow Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    ninjurai wrote: »
    Confusing indeed. Maybe that will make it easier to rank well, perhaps you can get sub3k again. Looks like cw is rising in value because the good monsters take some work to flush out. You prolly just doublef on that cw investment, good call.

    Indeed. My CW is selling off nicely now and I'd expect to buy it back at half price next week when people realise that HP is the more important resource still...

    In bad news (for me), my Arjuna is now selling for 250HP when I bought it for nearer 300HP as an investment. However, it's relative value will rise over time as the initial card release dwindles (especially at this price) and people see the value in it being the 2nd best man card after Lord Arthur. I still might lose out though as the general market slide means that keeping HP would have been the better decision for sure.

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  • AuburnTigerAuburnTiger Registered User regular
    Maguano wrote: »
    @AuburnTiger let us know what realm/race/color? you pick. might have some cards to help you out.

    I chose demon. I don't know anything about color or realm yet. Still just clicking menus to see what I can do.

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  • BluecyanBluecyan Buzz.. Buzz Buzz? BUZZ! Buzz buzz BuzzRegistered User regular
    Demon is your realm and race and the color of demon cards is red. You'll get a bonus to any Demon Cards in your deck both on offense and defense. For the most part you'll want to stick to Demon cards although it takes a bit before that's really an issue.

    At the start, just go through quests and gain levels. Bumping up your stamina is usually a good idea as this will let you level faster. Don't use either holy powder or cure waters, these are your currencies for trading, and they become more worthwhile as your stamina and attack increase.

  • AuburnTigerAuburnTiger Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    What are fellows and friendship points?

    Also, does anyone here play the Marvel comics equivalent of this game? Marvel War Heroes?

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  • BluecyanBluecyan Buzz.. Buzz Buzz? BUZZ! Buzz buzz BuzzRegistered User regular
    So, fellows are other players you "friend". The immediate benefit is five new stat points, so obviously you want to be max or near max most of the time. Secondly, you can send a message to your fellows for free friendship points once a day per fellow (technically you can send messages to anyone and get points but much less). Further, you can select two of your fellows, one Man and one Gods aligned, to help you overcome quest bosses (usually after finishing off five quests fully). Finally during certain events (like the one going on now) you'll encounter random event bosses, which after you hit at least once with your attack deck, you can request help from people on your fellowlist, who then can request help and so on. Some of the higher up bosses can only really be handled by a large number of people.

    The short answer is, fill up your fellows list with active people. If you notice people's activity wain in the game you can un-fellow them and replace them BE CAREFUL THOUGH. If you unfellow more than once a day you can lose stat points PERMANENTLY. Unfellowing removes five stat points from your highest stat (or if your stats are tied or near tied five total), though you get these back after fellowing a new person. Effectively allowing you to respec your points. However, after the first one you will lose six, and only regain five, meaning one permanent loss. Not sure if it gets more punitive or not, but stats are harder to get later on so even one point is bad enough.

    Friendship points simply get you free friendship card packs (200 points/1 Card). Mostly these are junk cards, Normals and High Normals, though occasionally (1/1000 maybe?) you can get a rare. Not sure if you can get High Rares, thought I heard someone say they got one but I haven't personally in any event. Friendship points generally are pretty easy to get, you can message fellows, send responses on successful bazaar deals, are ofter in daily sign in bonuses, and can be found as event prizes. Its one of the few ways to gain cards outside of stamina.

    I've played Marvel some, I recall it being incredibly similar to RoB but with Marvel instead of fantasy stuff. Mobage has a LOT of RoB spin-off types of games.

    edit:Oh also forgot to mention. Fellows (and guild mates) are the only people you can trade with, and even then you have to be fellows for awhile, at least a week, not sure if they've changed it. Outside of trading you'll have to go through the Bazaar which is this games auction house. Of which you only get five tickets a day, which amounts to 1-5 different sales or purchases a day (depending on rarity of cards, the rarer the more restrictive). Not something you'll be using a lot at the start, but later a good way of trading away unwanted cards, or searching for that last card to fully evolve your Dragon or whatever. It might not be a bad idea to fellow a few PAers, many of whom, myself included, would be glad to toss you a few cards to get started. Personally I'd recommend the Dragon HN card, its a very good demon attack card. I had it in my attack deck till I was in my 70s. Although, you might be able to buy a full on rare card pretty cheaply that will put it to shame now.

  • AuburnTigerAuburnTiger Registered User regular
    I would love to befriend some PAers. My Mobage name is MorningstarPA. Just be aware I'm still trying to figure the game out.

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  • ThemadcowThemadcow Registered User regular
    Some serious debate going in in the ROB forums about the fact that there is no point improving your deck past SR/SSR level now. The events are just so geared to HP/CW use that deck is mostly irrelevant.

    I'm quite torn whether to stick with my current Order (nice bunch, ranked 200 last HW) or move to a less competitive Order as, in all honesty, I deplore blowing 200+HP per HW just to get less than 50HP worth of rewards and I don't want to let the side down by clearly stashing my HP. The other side of the coin is "why play it if you're not going to compete?" which is fair enough, but I still enjoy the trading side of the game more than the events even if Cygames keeps trying to make it harder to profit.

  • JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    Always feels more like 1/50 or 1/100 out of the friendship pack to get a rare. I've certainly gotten a good number from there.

    I'm kind of at the same point on the lower end of the spectrum. I would have to dump a lot of HP every event either for whatever event cards are required to place highly or just to place highly at all, HP that I can't really spare since I never put any money into the game. I have a nice HR deck but all that really seems to matter any more is just how much HP/CW you dump into an event, making the deck building part of the game less satisfying. I sat this event out, debating if I'm interested in coming back.

  • AuburnTigerAuburnTiger Registered User regular
    How do I edit my defense deck? People keep attacking me and taking my rupies, but I don't know how to set it up. I don't even get a notification when they attack. :-\

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  • DracilDracil Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Themadcow wrote: »
    Some serious debate going in in the ROB forums about the fact that there is no point improving your deck past SR/SSR level now. The events are just so geared to HP/CW use that deck is mostly irrelevant.

    I'm quite torn whether to stick with my current Order (nice bunch, ranked 200 last HW) or move to a less competitive Order as, in all honesty, I deplore blowing 200+HP per HW just to get less than 50HP worth of rewards and I don't want to let the side down by clearly stashing my HP. The other side of the coin is "why play it if you're not going to compete?" which is fair enough, but I still enjoy the trading side of the game more than the events even if Cygames keeps trying to make it harder to profit.

    I've actually been starting to feel the same way. They've trivialized decks in events to the point of activity/item use that I'm losing motivation to improve my deck. The only reason I improve my deck now is to crush people in regular daily battles.

    The first thing I do when I wake up is no longer to check Rage, it's to check out my Ingress notifications.

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  • BluecyanBluecyan Buzz.. Buzz Buzz? BUZZ! Buzz buzz BuzzRegistered User regular
    How do I edit my defense deck? People keep attacking me and taking my rupies, but I don't know how to set it up. I don't even get a notification when they attack. :-\

    You can go to Edit Deck in the menu. This will initially show you your attack deck but there will be a button labelled Def Deck to switch you over. Honestly though, I'd say just let them, rubies aren't really all that critical, especially early on. More importantly, you'd need to devote stat points to defense which would be better used on Stamina or Attack. Defense is the least utilized stat in the game, only useful for Battle Rankings and certain events which have special treasure items, and the last one of those events we actually had was what, Halloween?


    Re:This event
    This event seems kind of broken. The Helvera rare boss is fairly worthless since she only gives blue crystals. So far the only rewards I've gotten from turning in the blues has been a few HN skill cards a couple N cards and heap ton of sylvan berries. I'm hoping silver rewards actually give worthwhile cards that are being teased, however I haven't even seen a Jabberwockey and I'm up into the 80s quest. Also, pretty much nobody is sharing. This all might change later when the real boss shows up.

    That said, it seems the AP system for this event would go a long way to making quality decks worthwhile. Being able to use your 10 best cards six times for one HP regardless of cost seems like a good idea. They even manage to keep Attack useful. Its the stupid gating mechanism for getting worthwhile monsters to attack, or at least the rarity of the monsters appearing. I've found about once a day I can usually get the three different normal monster types to open the gates, and then I usually get one, sometimes two of the Helveras to attack. If its just one I can kill her myself with out using any berries or HP. The thing that confuses me is half of the ones I share end up not getting finished off, making me want to be rather selfish.

  • ninjuraininjurai Registered User regular
    I am totally with you guys. I've had a lot of fun with this game but I'm pretty sure I am no longer going to be "competitive". Mobage has simply frustrated me to many times in such a short span of time, and it has become obvious to everyone that you pretty much have to create a ton of accounts, spend lots of money, and/or have infinite time to really be "competitive". I dont even check my 2 accounts upon waking or every two hours any more, and have found it quite relaxing to no longer fret about bazaar deals and ranking. Maybe finally aquiring Thor just kinda satisfied that itch this game has been causing for the last 6 months.

    Time spent on reading (almost done with book 3 of Game of Thrones), Youtubing (currently entranced with K-pop & Mike Diva), shooting (buy an AK-47 if you can: blows RoB away), and LoL (just a couple games away from lvl 30!) is all far more rewarding. It's amazing how much time one has when they are not trying to FF or skill up some stupid digitized card that will be devalued within a month.

    I have to imagine that lots of other players are getting fed up with this game too but I wonder if the Android and Iphone markets are just so big that mobage can strategize to to keep attacting new players to replace the jaded ones like us. New players likely spend the most money on the game... seems like with the frequent and long events and the obvious devaluing of cards that Mobage is really after new/transient players instead of keeping the "middle class" happy.

    @Bluecyan what rank are you pulling in this event? Sounds like you have been the most active of us, good luck in doing well and thank you for your synopsis of the event. I sent all of my best cards to my pure-stamina account because ATK is no longer limiting the type of event deck I use. This way I can rassle up more monsters per CW and an HP is going to give 6 attacks no matter what. The only thing I miss out on is the 1.2 dmg bonus which is sort of a joke, imo.

  • BluecyanBluecyan Buzz.. Buzz Buzz? BUZZ! Buzz buzz BuzzRegistered User regular
    I have 15k sylvan berries currently, with a rank of 47,875. Though considering the rewards for this event, frankly I don't care about my rank. I was interested in those Maze Flower rewards but as I already stated, those feel more like a tease than anything at this point. I have been pretty active this event, but I've let so much AP just sit there with nothing to spend it on.

    @ninjurai The only downside I see to your better deck being on a Stamina based account is the 6 AP attack option which gives 8.8 times attack. My initial thought was this was going to eventually turn out to be just like the other monster events where the Take Down a Monster list would basically be permenatly at five high HP monsters shared by a bunch of people, so HP would once again trump CP. It still might, but I haven't noticed an increase in monster levels, I'm still mostly getting level 5 walking dead.

  • AuburnTigerAuburnTiger Registered User regular
    Can anyone add me as a fellow? I don't have anyone at the moment.

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  • AuburnTigerAuburnTiger Registered User regular
    Ok, so I hit level 20. What should I be focusing on? Also, can't believe no one here has decided to help out a beginner like me and add me as a fellow. :(

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  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    There's no benefit, really, to adding an Order member as a Fellow, as they both confer the same status with regard to trading with each other. Are you not in the Order?

    What's your profile name?

  • AuburnTigerAuburnTiger Registered User regular
    I'm not an order member. MorningstarPA is my profile name.

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  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
  • DracilDracil Registered User regular
    Many

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  • AuburnTigerAuburnTiger Registered User regular
    I look forward to an invite!

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  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    You'll need to do a User Search for someone already in the Order. Search for me, "Riusaldregan", then when you're on my profile page click on The Arcadians order button. From there, you can request an invite and Dracil can approve it.

  • AuburnTigerAuburnTiger Registered User regular
    Done :-)

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  • DracilDracil Registered User regular
    Added

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  • VelmeranVelmeran Registered User regular
    I'm new also, feel free to add me as Vechloran. I have a question though. Did the second boss battle and won, now it's stuck on a screen showing defeated boss and catch phrase, nothing loading and nothing to click on, any way to force myself back to main menu?

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  • AuburnTigerAuburnTiger Registered User regular
    If anyone could offer advice, it would be appreciated. I'm getting my ass handed to me by low level monsters in the Sylvan Labyrinth. Guess my deck isn't strong enough.

    I still enjoy hopping into the big fights and doing some pitiful damage, but still getting rewarded for helping.

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  • JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    Velmeran wrote: »
    I'm new also, feel free to add me as Vechloran. I have a question though. Did the second boss battle and won, now it's stuck on a screen showing defeated boss and catch phrase, nothing loading and nothing to click on, any way to force myself back to main menu?
    Are you on Android or iOS? On android the back button usually skips back or you can force close and reopen if it locks up.

  • AuburnTigerAuburnTiger Registered User regular
    edited February 2013
    You guys have 25 minutes to help me beat a Level 22 zombie that I can't defeat.

    Edit: He got away. I guess not selecting "Call All" was a mistake.

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  • failedninjafailedninja Registered User regular
    Unfortunately it's going to be rough for you just starting out. The most important thing you should be working on is getting a lot of exp and levels under your belt. The event quests are good for getting you some cards that you won't see in the normal quests. Try and evolve them if you can for the archive bonuses. The normal quests will give you attribute points, which will help. Try to get a lot of stamina before you worry about offense and defence. If you can accumulate a decent amount of HP and cw there are some high value (bang for you buck) high rares you can get off the bazaar. But for now just grind away on quests and don't worry if you can't get enough help to take down monsters.

  • AuburnTigerAuburnTiger Registered User regular
    Can anyone recommend any demon cards I should be going after as a Level 25?

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