what is funny is when Canadians think things work a certain way in this country because American TV has told them it does in America (and even that is dubious)
my instructor in college used to be a Toronto cop, and the number of times people would say they "Plead the Fifth" used to just kill him
yeah uh
you don't have that, bud
You guys don't have a right to not self-incriminate?
That is pretty bizarre.
The reason we have it is just it prevents a cycle of ridiculous perjury and protects the sanctity of the witness stand oath. It's so overwhelmingly likely that an accused person will simply lie if put on the stand and asked "DID YOU KILL BOB?" that we just don't bother letting that question be asked of the accused.
what is funny is when Canadians think things work a certain way in this country because American TV has told them it does in America (and even that is dubious)
my instructor in college used to be a Toronto cop, and the number of times people would say they "Plead the Fifth" used to just kill him
yeah uh
you don't have that, bud
You guys don't have a right to not self-incriminate?
That is pretty bizarre.
The reason we have it is just it prevents a cycle of ridiculous perjury and protects the sanctity of the witness stand oath. It's so overwhelmingly likely that an accused person will simply lie if put on the stand and asked "DID YOU KILL BOB?" that we just don't bother letting that question be asked of the accused.
We have something similar to a right to not self-incriminate but it's obviously not called the Fifth Amendment and it doesn't work like TV tells people it works
I'm not a lawyer but I'm pretty sure most Americans badly misunderstand how the 5th amendment works. It's not like one of the more... I don't want to say important, but lets say it doesn't come up as often as other amendments like freedom of religion and speech. It's very specific.
what is funny is when Canadians think things work a certain way in this country because American TV has told them it does in America (and even that is dubious)
my instructor in college used to be a Toronto cop, and the number of times people would say they "Plead the Fifth" used to just kill him
yeah uh
you don't have that, bud
You guys don't have a right to not self-incriminate?
That is pretty bizarre.
The reason we have it is just it prevents a cycle of ridiculous perjury and protects the sanctity of the witness stand oath. It's so overwhelmingly likely that an accused person will simply lie if put on the stand and asked "DID YOU KILL BOB?" that we just don't bother letting that question be asked of the accused.
We have something similar to a right to not self-incriminate but it's obviously not called the Fifth Amendment and it doesn't work like TV tells people it works
Right like "read me my rights", yeah? Sure you've got them but there is only one country that has that and even there it's not exactly like that off TV.
what is funny is when Canadians think things work a certain way in this country because American TV has told them it does in America (and even that is dubious)
my instructor in college used to be a Toronto cop, and the number of times people would say they "Plead the Fifth" used to just kill him
yeah uh
you don't have that, bud
You guys don't have a right to not self-incriminate?
That is pretty bizarre.
The reason we have it is just it prevents a cycle of ridiculous perjury and protects the sanctity of the witness stand oath. It's so overwhelmingly likely that an accused person will simply lie if put on the stand and asked "DID YOU KILL BOB?" that we just don't bother letting that question be asked of the accused.
We have something similar to a right to not self-incriminate but it's obviously not called the Fifth Amendment and it doesn't work like TV tells people it works
Right like "read me my rights", yeah? Sure you've got them but there is only one country that has that and even there it's not exactly like that off TV.
we do have instructions read to arrested parties that are supposed to be done "as soon as reasonable to do so"
but they're not at all how TV treats Miranda and nor does not being read them act like some kind of get out of jail free card or some bullshit
I remember back when cops arrested a bunch of the G20 protesters in Toronto I saw a big hullabaloo from the arrested folk about how they weren't "read their rights"
yeah uh
that's not how it works, man
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what is funny is when Canadians think things work a certain way in this country because American TV has told them it does in America (and even that is dubious)
my instructor in college used to be a Toronto cop, and the number of times people would say they "Plead the Fifth" used to just kill him
yeah uh
you don't have that, bud
You didn't read me my rights! The whole arrest is invalid!
"You got a licence for that gun? Is it registered? Do you have an authorization to transport that weapon?"
"Man, I got a right to bear arms!"
"No, you don't. Not in this country, buddy."
There are Canadians who think they have a 2nd amendment-like protection from watching American TV?
That's hilarious.
Yes! It's amazing.
Basically your average Canadian is about as legally and politically informed as your average American
which is to say not very!
but the thing is since so much of our media intake is American in origin, when pop cultural knowledge becomes folk knowledge it's not even folk knowledge about the right country and it adds this extra level of hilariously stupid
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what is funny is when Canadians think things work a certain way in this country because American TV has told them it does in America (and even that is dubious)
my instructor in college used to be a Toronto cop, and the number of times people would say they "Plead the Fifth" used to just kill him
yeah uh
you don't have that, bud
You guys don't have a right to not self-incriminate?
That is pretty bizarre.
The reason we have it is just it prevents a cycle of ridiculous perjury and protects the sanctity of the witness stand oath. It's so overwhelmingly likely that an accused person will simply lie if put on the stand and asked "DID YOU KILL BOB?" that we just don't bother letting that question be asked of the accused.
We have something similar to a right to not self-incriminate but it's obviously not called the Fifth Amendment and it doesn't work like TV tells people it works
Right like "read me my rights", yeah? Sure you've got them but there is only one country that has that and even there it's not exactly like that off TV.
we do have instructions read to arrested parties that are supposed to be done "as soon as reasonable to do so"
but they're not at all how TV treats Miranda and nor does not being read them act like some kind of get out of jail free card or some bullshit
Miranda rights aren't how TV treats them here, either.
Also funny, cops don't have to tell you they're cops. Like, they can lie about that and it still isn't necessarily entrapment. But TV acts like it is.
So our TV isn't even accurate for laws within the country.
"You got a licence for that gun? Is it registered? Do you have an authorization to transport that weapon?"
"Man, I got a right to bear arms!"
"No, you don't. Not in this country, buddy."
There are Canadians who think they have a 2nd amendment-like protection from watching American TV?
That's hilarious.
If it works on Law&Order how can it not work irl? It's based on real stories!
L&O is set in New York City which has firearms registration laws.
The characters on that show arrest people for having unregistered guns all the time (usually as a temporary thing while they are working up much more serious charges) and they use firearms licensing registries in just about every single God damn episode to track weapons they think might have been involved in their crime of the week.
I mean I know Law & Order and CSI and shit aren't exactly portraying American law accurately to Americans either
it's just extra funny when things they think they have (Miranda rights, 5th amendment, right to bear arms) are not only misunderstood but do not exist in this country
The police must love whoever created the whole "you have to tell me if you're a cop" thing.
undercover cops love it and there's the joke that they're likely the ones that propagate this myth outside of TV
i'm reminded of a bit from True Blood where Sookie notices that Bill casts a reflection, and Bill is like "Yeah we made the whole vampires don't cast reflections thing up so that if people thought we were vampires we could show them our reflections and dismiss suspicion"
"You got a licence for that gun? Is it registered? Do you have an authorization to transport that weapon?"
"Man, I got a right to bear arms!"
"No, you don't. Not in this country, buddy."
There are Canadians who think they have a 2nd amendment-like protection from watching American TV?
That's hilarious.
If it works on Law&Order how can it not work irl? It's based on real stories!
L&O is set in New York City which has firearms registration laws.
The characters on that show arrest people for having unregistered guns all the time (usually as a temporary thing while they are working up much more serious charges) and they use firearms licensing registries in just about every single God damn episode to track weapons they think might have been involved in their crime of the week.
And every gun has a checkered past, unless they filed off the serial number. I miss old L&O episodes.
I mean I know Law & Order and CSI and shit aren't exactly portraying American law accurately to Americans either
it's just extra funny when things they think they have (Miranda rights, 5th amendment, right to bear arms) are not only misunderstood but do not exist in this country
They are inaccurate but I don't think they portray the law horribly inaccurately as a matter of course.
Like most TV shows, the writers try to get it right as much as they can within the constraints of their lay knowledge and limited research.
Crime dramas are much worse about the way they portray technology than the way they present the law.
For example, many Law and Order episodes have pointed out explicitly that police are allowed to lie. They turn business owners of illegal businesses so that they can set up a non-entrapment sting. Because just opening a brothel is entrapment, but if there is already a brothel and you stick cops in it to catch people; not entrapment. They play fast and loose with questioning people and sometimes it bites them in the ass, but sometimes they cheat and nail criminals to the wall. Other times they get their pee-pees smacked and their evidence thrown out.
I mean I know Law & Order and CSI and shit aren't exactly portraying American law accurately to Americans either
it's just extra funny when things they think they have (Miranda rights, 5th amendment, right to bear arms) are not only misunderstood but do not exist in this country
It's too bad some other country's legal shows aren't prevalent in the U.S.
I think it would be highly entertaining for people being arrested on COPS to be screaming for their solicitor.
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I mean I know Law & Order and CSI and shit aren't exactly portraying American law accurately to Americans either
it's just extra funny when things they think they have (Miranda rights, 5th amendment, right to bear arms) are not only misunderstood but do not exist in this country
It's too bad some other country's legal shows aren't prevalent in the U.S.
I think it would be highly entertaining for people being arrested on COPS to be screaming for their solicitor.
I mean I know Law & Order and CSI and shit aren't exactly portraying American law accurately to Americans either
it's just extra funny when things they think they have (Miranda rights, 5th amendment, right to bear arms) are not only misunderstood but do not exist in this country
It's too bad some other country's legal shows aren't prevalent in the U.S.
I think it would be highly entertaining for people being arrested on COPS to be screaming for their solicitor.
yeah outside of like
Flashpoint
do Canadian police shows even play in the US?
we have them
they're mostly on Showcase and the CBC
but they do exist
i just don't know if they play anywhere but here
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The police must love whoever created the whole "you have to tell me if you're a cop" thing.
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Yeah, they do. It's just not the fifth.
Goddamn though
I'm not a lawyer but I'm pretty sure most Americans badly misunderstand how the 5th amendment works. It's not like one of the more... I don't want to say important, but lets say it doesn't come up as often as other amendments like freedom of religion and speech. It's very specific.
Don't talk to a cop falls more under the Miranda warning.
Right like "read me my rights", yeah? Sure you've got them but there is only one country that has that and even there it's not exactly like that off TV.
"You got a licence for that gun? Is it registered? Do you have an authorization to transport that weapon?"
"Man, I got a right to bear arms!"
"No, you don't. Not in this country, buddy."
oh i see how it is
There are Canadians who think they have a 2nd amendment-like protection from watching American TV?
That's hilarious.
Depending on the state a cop here could ask these questions and demand answers as well.
we do have instructions read to arrested parties that are supposed to be done "as soon as reasonable to do so"
but they're not at all how TV treats Miranda and nor does not being read them act like some kind of get out of jail free card or some bullshit
I remember back when cops arrested a bunch of the G20 protesters in Toronto I saw a big hullabaloo from the arrested folk about how they weren't "read their rights"
yeah uh
that's not how it works, man
I thought you were working! Sorry!
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You didn't read me my rights! The whole arrest is invalid!
If it works on Law&Order how can it not work irl? It's based on real stories!
I believe that the Miranda warning is the result of a supreme court ruling which was arrived at through a reading of the 5th amendment.
I see how it is!
Though my character is only 10 and I have to get up tomorrow so I couldn't anyways.
"You got a reason that gun is nescessary for the operation of a well regulated militia?"
Yes! It's amazing.
Basically your average Canadian is about as legally and politically informed as your average American
which is to say not very!
but the thing is since so much of our media intake is American in origin, when pop cultural knowledge becomes folk knowledge it's not even folk knowledge about the right country and it adds this extra level of hilariously stupid
Miranda rights aren't how TV treats them here, either.
Also funny, cops don't have to tell you they're cops. Like, they can lie about that and it still isn't necessarily entrapment. But TV acts like it is.
So our TV isn't even accurate for laws within the country.
L&O is set in New York City which has firearms registration laws.
The characters on that show arrest people for having unregistered guns all the time (usually as a temporary thing while they are working up much more serious charges) and they use firearms licensing registries in just about every single God damn episode to track weapons they think might have been involved in their crime of the week.
it's just extra funny when things they think they have (Miranda rights, 5th amendment, right to bear arms) are not only misunderstood but do not exist in this country
undercover cops love it and there's the joke that they're likely the ones that propagate this myth outside of TV
i'm reminded of a bit from True Blood where Sookie notices that Bill casts a reflection, and Bill is like "Yeah we made the whole vampires don't cast reflections thing up so that if people thought we were vampires we could show them our reflections and dismiss suspicion"
it's a quick sketch of what oathkeeper's armor will look like
Still looking for someone? If so, which version?
And every gun has a checkered past, unless they filed off the serial number. I miss old L&O episodes.
except jeeps, he can go play Champions
hell with it. Finished eating dinner and I'd be down for some Civ5.
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They are inaccurate but I don't think they portray the law horribly inaccurately as a matter of course.
Like most TV shows, the writers try to get it right as much as they can within the constraints of their lay knowledge and limited research.
Crime dramas are much worse about the way they portray technology than the way they present the law.
For example, many Law and Order episodes have pointed out explicitly that police are allowed to lie. They turn business owners of illegal businesses so that they can set up a non-entrapment sting. Because just opening a brothel is entrapment, but if there is already a brothel and you stick cops in it to catch people; not entrapment. They play fast and loose with questioning people and sometimes it bites them in the ass, but sometimes they cheat and nail criminals to the wall. Other times they get their pee-pees smacked and their evidence thrown out.
It's too bad some other country's legal shows aren't prevalent in the U.S.
I think it would be highly entertaining for people being arrested on COPS to be screaming for their solicitor.
yeah outside of like
Flashpoint
do Canadian police shows even play in the US?
we have them
they're mostly on Showcase and the CBC
but they do exist
i just don't know if they play anywhere but here
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