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[SRO] Shadowrun Online - Funded and in development.

CostanzaKCostanzaK Registered User regular
edited September 2012 in MMO Extravaganza
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The world has changed…

Magic is no longer just for fairy tales. It’s real. While technology has merged with flesh to challenge the strength of old world sorcery. Now people are more than just people; after an unexplained genetic event, some of them have developed traits that have left them labeled as elves, dwarfs, orks, and trolls. And dragons aren’t just in picture books–they’re very real, and they’re running nations and some of the biggest corporations in the world.

People call it the Sixth World, and it’s not a friendly place. Mega corporations have ruthlessly consolidated power, and they make everyone, from the lowliest wage slave to the most powerful government leader, dance to their tune. Many people sell their lives to these megacorps, believing they have no choice. But there are a few who have the skills, the guts and the nerve to stay independent, finding a way to live in the gray areas of a world not built for them. They can survive–and if they’re real lucky–thrive in the corners and shadows of the world. They’re outlaws, but they’re tolerated by the powers of the world because they’re useful. They are called shadowrunners.


I'm certain that many people here have heard of the super successful Kickstarter for Returns, which will be a dream come true for everyone that has had a deal in the darkness with a Mr. Johnson, (wang jokes permitted) but there seems to be comparatively few people who have heard of . Well, let's start this off with the official Kickstarter video for the project.

Or at least I would, if I knew how to link a video from another website directly into a forum. For now, I'll just say that there are some informational and gameplay videos on their Kickstarter page, which can be found using a simple search.

Either way, I'm covering the point by point of the projects and developing game right here.

What is Shadowrun?
Shadowrun is a pen and paper RPG created in the last century that combines a Cyberpunk Dystopian Future with High Fantasy. In this setting, the Aztec calender doesn't represent the death of the world, but the ending of one age and the beginning of the next as the calender resets itself. Turns out, in 5,000 year cycles, magic enters and exits our world, which means that in 2012 there were fierce disasters coupled with the militaristic uprising of cultures that were still in tune with mysticism, leading to the reclaiming of the Southwest United States by the Sioux Nation. The event also led to the awakening of the most long lived, cunning, farsighted, and devious creatures to even live, Dragons. And these dragons wasted no time in taking over nations and founding mega-corporations to exert their pull over humanity, and continue their eternal power struggles with one another.

And with the return of Magic came the return of what are now called Meta-Humans. The long dormant genes of Elves and Dwarves suddenly re-emerge and both species are born en mass after the event, while millions of teenagers went through Goblinization as their physical bodies turned turned into Orcs and Trolls wherever they happened to be standing at the time.

Magic came back with a vengeance, but technology refused to die, and the two have now merged like a pair of lovers refusing to be parted. Cybermancy is common and still being explored for high profit as scientists try to get a handle on that pure, raw, and unpredictable power called magic. But there are those who can control it, for a time. Magicians are easily found if you know where to look, and every one is a potential bomb that could be overloaded by the very power that makes them devastating in a fight, leading to their being universally feared and distrusted by friends and foes alike.

Magicians are not the only ones with access to mystic might, as Shamans suddenly found that the spirits of nature can now speak back and lend their power to those who are either worthy or pay the proper price. And the Shamans quickly find that they can delve into the ephemeral world of these same spirits to explore an alien landscape that no human eye had beheld for over five thousand years. But technology has also created a new realm in the form of the internet's foundations. As technology found means to create stable cybernetics that interface with human nerves, it quickly became possible for intelligent beings to submerge their psyches into what has come to be known as the Matrix, the amalgamated cyber landscape of all the interfaced machines on the planet. Through this mentally tactile realm, one with enough skill can enter any space where machine exists and take any secrets for themselves at the risk of their lives, for software countermeasures as brutal as the monsters of legend have been developed for the sole purpose of keep these secrets hidden.

With the use of the resurgent magic, the entire planet became embroiled in wars exploring new territory and new weapons. As a result, the US loses control over most of the continent, and the southern states break away to reform a Confederacy that prioritizes State Rights over Federal Right. Seattle falls and rises again as a hub of commerce, owned and governed by the Mega Corporations that had used the anarchy to consolidate power and annihilate competition until they held most of the political power and wealth the planet has to offer. Split into high tech splendor and high tech ruination, Seattle is the go to town for covert corporate sabotage and every Mega-Corps has a presence there exactly for that reason.

Europe sank into a continent wide mass of violence that resulted in entire tracts of land being rendered nearly uninhabitable, except for the fact that people still live there. The superpower capitol of London has been struck with toxic rain and unbreathable poison air, forcing the residents to go underground into a submerged facsimile of their home city in order to survive. And poor Berlin has once again been carved up into territories by the survivors of the great war. No less than six superpowers hold tracts of land and high security keeping them apart, and that is why Berlin is the holy land of any shadowrunner worth their salt.

What is a shadowrunner? That's you, the player. A person who refuses to play by the new rules, who values their own freedom over the uneasy comforts assigned to you by corporate overlords. A person who is skilled enough at their unethical trade to be tolerated by the powers that be and used for the furthering of their own covert agendas. You live in a world with few rules, and fewer restrictions. But just remember four things.

Watch your back.
Shoot straight.
Conserve your ammo.
Never, ever, cut a deal with a dragon.

Game State: Alpha Build / On Kickstarter

What is Shadowrun Online?
Being named an MORPG, (cutting out the "Massively") Shadowrun Online is a game where the original universe is made digital and shared with only the people you want to share it with. This means you have an Online game that is finally as social or anti-social as wish it to be. With group finders, friend lists, and the ability to form complete teams out of your own roster of Created Characters, the game is uniquely flexible. The game also takes place in the year 2070, twenty years after the current edition of Shadowrun (and the upcoming Shadowrun Returns), and the events that will unfold in SRO will be incorporated into the official PnP Shadowrun Lore as time marches on for the residents of the 6th world. Aside from the base societal structures and ongoing antagonism towards the new meta-human strains that have recently begun appearing, all the events in question will be guided by the player community, including the permanent downfall of one of the Mega-Corps.

The game itself will be a downloaded client to be installed on the hard drive and played in it's own dedicated window, like all other PC games. However, by following a set of instructions it will be possible to play the game in a web browser window instead while retaining the complete 3D aspect and quality, but being able to check your email at the same time.

The game will be playable cross-platform on online PC, Mac, Linux, iOS/iPad, Android Tablet and Ouya.

What does Shadowrun Online look / play like?
Well, here is an early Alpha gameplay video.

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As you can see from the video, the game will be presented in a 3D isometric top down view much like X-COM, Final Fantasy Tactics, and Disgaea. The engine is apparently using a lot of relic work from Jaggad Alliance Online while Cliffhanger finishes getting the core gameplay rules perfected for the game's turn-based, initiative ordered, Free/Move/Normal/Complex action automating system perfected before taking away all the current graphics and remaking the graphics engine to be as up to date and good looking as possible.

As for the User Interface that was shown, that is the Super Alpha version shown in the video. User Interfaces are generally the last thing made inside a video game during development.


What is the flow of the game?
The first thing you will do in the game, is find a Mission to go on, aka a Run. As stated before, the UI has not been made (though areas of the world will be sorted by increasing difficulty of Runs), so there is currently no information on this step, or the next one, Gathering a Team. What we do know is that the game will have a built in optional matchmaking system for people who don't mind a random partner in crime. SRO will also have friends lists so you can game with your real life or online buddies, but the most innovative system here is the ability to use your own Created Characters to fill in the spaces that would have been played by humans and turn the Multiplayer, into Single Player. Very handy for lone wolves or people who need an additional member of a team right quick and don't feel like risking a PUG Healer.

After gathering your team, next comes the Legwork. This is where the Social and Background skills / perks found in Shadowrun will really shine.

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In the above video, the character obviously failed in his Intimidate check, but the option to use Barter and Diplomacy was also present (and a failure on them would most likely have been less visceral), though the Troll shown is apparently more in favor of speaking through his fists. Legwork seems to be the biggest part of the game that would involve the use of non-combat skills, as SRO has confirmed that a team will be able to either accompany each other for all the legwork performed for a Run, or be able to break apart in whatever grouping it chooses for each member to gather info / obtain an edge in whatever manner suits them best. SRO has also confirmed that background perks, like Contacts, will be alive and well in the game and have an influence. Background Perks can be bought in character creation or earned as a reward during missions, allowing you to slowly create a criminal network that will creep across the face of the Sixth World.

Whether your Legwork is planting demolitions to make an escape route, bribing guards or scientists to open a path inside, hacking the mainframes to get a map of the security layout, or buying info on the contents of the building you're breaking into from an information broker, your team is working to give your Run advantages when you start. Of course, with any system in Shadowrun, there is the possibility of failure. You may come across a random encounter group of street thugs, have your infiltration program countered, or just plain let the wrong people know what your plans are, and the process will end up backfiring on you, creating complications for your Run.

Next comes the Run itself, where the team gathers once again and tries to achieve it's goals as it was hired to perform them, along with any optional or uncovered goals the team has discovered through Legwork. While each run is unique, this is not a Diablo style game. The maps will not randomize the rooms involved, as it really would not make sense if you break into an Aztech science building to kidnap a scientist and then come back to the same building a week later to plant an AI scrambler program in the mainframe and find the interior of the building and the sewer tunnels outside it have been completely rearranged. What is different every time is the security layout, position of guards with patrol routes, intrusive wildlife, guardian beasts, and interrupting rivals. Just like a map of Team Fortress 2, even if the map is the same, the fight will be completely different based on who your opponent is.

After the Run has either been completed more or less successfully, or failed magnificently, the team needs to escape and get to ground. Safehouses (customizable safehouses are confirm for After Launch expansion) are very important for this step, as shaking off the law (government or corporately funded) is as important to your longevity as body armor. Once the team has evaded pursuit, it is time to end the process and get a mission complete. -Process for ending a mission is unknown, as it is once again, User Interface-

After getting your pay, you can spend it on weapons, armor, gear, DocWagon payment plans, or just the average Ale and Whores.
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Character Creation:
Each account will have three character slots available to them for the creation of Shadowrunners. The process of creation will follow along the more modern Shadowrun PnP rules, where instead of choosing a class and then having your Stats and abilities built around it's intended play style, you are given a blank sheet and an amount of points to spend on what you want on skills, abilities, backgrounds, and perks. This allows a far more fluid and adaptable creation process as you can be a Mage Troll with a penchant for beating people down with your magically augmented fists, or a whisper thin street samurai sniper that locates his targets by hacking into the enemy's security cameras.

Cliffhanger has now released a video showing the general pre-Alpha model and explanation of character creation in Shadowrun Online. Everyone remembers the host from Firefly, yes?
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SRO will offer pre-built characters for player that don't want to go into the in depth method of tailoring a character sheet like an Armani tuxedo. In line with the idea of complete customization, SRO will allow players to upload their own character portraits if you don't see one that you like in the game's portrait database. (Samples) There will be people checking these custom submissions before they are enacted as portraits, so anyone who thinks they can get away with a picture of their own wang for an avatar will quickly find their account banned. But this opens up a potential parallel economy in having Deviant Artists making cash by drawing character portraits for the game. Interesting possibilities that.

Players will have the option to play as any of the common Meta-Human types (Human, Elf, Dwarf, Orc, and Troll), with the rarer sub-strains expected in expansions. And BTW, Technomancer is confirmed for launch.

Also, depending on Perks, Traits, and Equipment, players will be able to see the world in different ways.

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Equipment:
All combat equipment can be upgraded and personalized in the game, it's maximum customizibility being decided by it's quality. To quote the Cliffhanger representative, "there is only so much you can do for a flintlock musket."

Q and A:
Will SRO occur in the same reality as Shadowrun Returns?
-Yes. This is a world that has been shaped by the actions of the Shadowrun for SNES, Genesis, and Shadowrun Returns. There is an ongoing plotline that involves all the previous games, as well as the Pen and Paper's original world.

Is my character permanent? Will my character die?
-Your character is permanent and will continue to grow in strength and ability for as long as you choose to retain it. While a character cannot be killed, your character can be very badly beaten up by failing their Runs a few times too many. More information on the fallout of failed missions has yet to be released.

So does what I do in game even matter?
-Yes. Shadorunners are hired out by Mega-Corporations, who's power are reflected by the actions of the player community. The power of a corporation is not static, but reactive and dependent on successful Runs to maintain an edge on their competitors. It has already been declared that the players are going to end up bringing down one of the Mega-Corps, but which one it will be, even the developers don't know. The players have not brought it down yet.

Are environments destructible?
Yes, they are. In the final game build, Demolition experts will most likely be able to "Bypass" security systems and reinforced entryways by making their own doors.

Can you hold territory?
-By engaging in PvP, either on your own or with a guild / gang, you can take and hold territory in the game. The benefits of this are not yet known, but cash and fame are likely.

So SRO's events are being incorporated into the Shadowrun PnP game, right? How can I become famous in the Shadowrun world?
-First, those people who contributed the highest "ROCKSTAR" amount to SRO's Kickstarter will be made a famous supermodel / Movie star /Rock star in the game, plastering their faces on advertisements, news, and entertainment. This status will be reflected in the Pen and Paper version of Shadowrun, and be made official canon. The second method would be to make history inside the game through excellence. Should a core set of players do something like succeed in unifying all of Seattle's gang turf, practically for good, then there is a high likelihood of those players becoming cannonical in the PnP game. Basically, if you achieve a legendary status on the game servers, you have a good shot of officially being recorded in Shadowrun's future-history.

So, where's the Matrix? And the Spirit realms? I wanna dive in there!
-They are not planned to be included in the game, as doing so would create a region of the game that only the "selected" can enter, and everyone else is barred entry. Also, creating game maps that disobey every single law of reality in a constantly shifting way would consume too much of Cliffhanger's budget. They may be introduced in an expansion if the community is interested in it enough.

So, I guess it's a Freemium Pay-2-Win game, huh?
-It is not a Pay-2-Win game. The F2P server is meant to be open to everyone, with items to provide faster leveling, self protection, and the usual sort of "Fast Start" items one can choose to buy, yes. But the game will be able to be played 100% free and not be crushed by bankrolling runners, as you will mostly be fighting NPC enemies. Unless you choose to PvP.

Wait, I heard this game was F2P with a cash shop. What's with this new payment plan I hear about?
-There is more than just one payment model. After receiving feedback from the community and running the numbers, Cliffhanger Productions has decided to make a second Server for those who would rather not deal with the Free-2-Play model. They are calling it the Campaign Server, which is modeled after the Guild Wars model of buying content once, and then owning it's usage forever. You get access to all the items you would normally have to pay cash for in the F2P server for in game digital currency, and only pay a single amount up front for each content package you wish to use. As more content is added, you will be able to pick and choose what you want, and since content expansions are expected to come out every 3-6 months (estimated period, not set in stone), we can safely conclude that the future of SRO will be expansive.

But even so, F2P and Campaign are separate servers, right? That's permanently dividing the community.
-It is not a segregated community. The F2P and Campaign servers will have overlap, each world's actions reflected in the other, and it has been promised that players on the different payment servers will be able to play with one another. This means that if a Campaign player gets one of his friends to try the game as F2P, then you can do some runs together to help him learn the ropes. And should that new player decide to buy the content and become a Campaign player, then his character will be transferred to the new server with all levels, equipment, and property intact.

Why have I not heard of Shadowrun Online until now?!
-The game is still in Alpha development, or even pre-alpha, and has not received coverage from the more normal coverage from magazines and news sites that half finished or nearly released games get.

Music:
Shadowrun Online is currently receiving submissions from composers for the in game music. All located submissions will be reposted here.

Please note, these are actual composers, people who make a living by writing and selling music as their primary source of income.

Walter Machado
Matias Castro
Alexander Guski
Géry Montet

"We shall Capture the Flag. We shall go on to the time limits.
We shall fight in Hoth, we shall fight on the spaceports
and the orbital stations, we shall fight with growing confidence
and growing strength in the instances, we shall defend our Republic,
whatever the cost may be.
We shall Re-Spawn on the beaches, we shall camp the landing grounds,
we shall PvP Flag in the fields and in the streets, we shall gank in the hills;
we shall never uninstall."
--Winston Churchwalker
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  • StericaSterica Wow! That was shit.Registered User, Moderator mod
    Do not advertise for games/kickstarters without permission, please.

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  • CostanzaKCostanzaK Registered User regular
    Thanks to the kindness of the Mods, the thread has been reopened as long as I follow the simple rule of not including links to the kickstarter web site. This is a page meant to convey information, and not to solicit cash, so I completely agree with the Mods on the restriction and I hope everyone else will abide by that request as well.

    In removing the links, I have taken this opportunity to update the page with more bullet points, and a few more bits of information including a little bit of the world of Shadowrun's history. Please read over the post again if you care to, and know that this is a project that deserves at least a bit of curiosity from the average gamer. Now, in the words of Mike Meyers pretending to be a middle aged New York Jewish mother, "Discuss."

    "We shall Capture the Flag. We shall go on to the time limits.
    We shall fight in Hoth, we shall fight on the spaceports
    and the orbital stations, we shall fight with growing confidence
    and growing strength in the instances, we shall defend our Republic,
    whatever the cost may be.
    We shall Re-Spawn on the beaches, we shall camp the landing grounds,
    we shall PvP Flag in the fields and in the streets, we shall gank in the hills;
    we shall never uninstall."
    --Winston Churchwalker
  • kaliyamakaliyama Left to find less-moderated fora Registered User regular
    This reads like the back of a very long game box. It feels like you are marketing for the game and it's unlikely people will engage in discussion. It seems way too early to differentiate between the hype and what the ddveloper can actually deliver.

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  • BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    All I know is I'm looking forward to both of the SR games in development. I am very much a pre-SR4 guy, so SR: Returns probably wins more points from me, but both look worth of play time. I'm really interested to see what can be done with a browser game .

    However, I think splitting the player base is going to hurt the game, and it appears that this game (or at least the write up above) has taken some liberties with the in-game canon. (Such as London being underground now? Maybe I missed something though).

    I think some extra game world detail is probably warranted, given the last POS software title to come with the 'Shadowrun' title.

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  • hotmumbohotmumbo Registered User
    There is also now windows and linux clients for Shadowrun Online for those who aren't comfortable with playing browser based games.
    @Bigity - I agree its not ideal to have 2 different servers to support the campaign and F2P models but at least you can easily move characters between them (with some restriction on gear I believe so that players don't gain unfair advantage doing it).
    The greatest attraction of SRO by far is the ability to play with other chummers - this is what miss most from the pen and paper rpg which I can no longer play because of life commitments.

  • CostanzaKCostanzaK Registered User regular
    The info I have about London comes from the Shadowrun Returns poll about which new city would be added to the game as an extended goal. So If I have the info wrong, it's because I misunderstood the description that the creator of Shadowrun wrote. And please remember, that the settings for Shadowrun Returns and Shadowrun Online are taking place in the decades after 2050, and there are definitely things that have happened in the Shadowrun universe that have yet to be recorded in the source books.

    My apologies if I get info wrong, as just like hotmumbo, I have been separated from the Shadowrun RPG for quite a long time and this is my chance to be able to play it with other people again. Shadowrun Single Player is great and all, but I want a persistent character sheet I can use to play with other people as well.

    @kaliyama And as for saying my description feels like the back of a game box, I'll choose to interpret that as saying that it sounds like a professional writer did it. Thank you for the complement, even though I am just a typical gamer. Although I do write fiction for fun, so being told I read like a professional is pretty gratifying. And as for the contents, it was kind of a challenge to get all the pertinent information concerning the backstory of a 20+ year old RPG, it's multiple video game plot inclusions, and the gameplay systems of an MMO into a single post in such a format that can be understood when read. Well, that is my intention at least.

    "We shall Capture the Flag. We shall go on to the time limits.
    We shall fight in Hoth, we shall fight on the spaceports
    and the orbital stations, we shall fight with growing confidence
    and growing strength in the instances, we shall defend our Republic,
    whatever the cost may be.
    We shall Re-Spawn on the beaches, we shall camp the landing grounds,
    we shall PvP Flag in the fields and in the streets, we shall gank in the hills;
    we shall never uninstall."
    --Winston Churchwalker
  • StericaSterica Wow! That was shit.Registered User, Moderator mod
    Yeah, this thread has been given a second chance, but focus on the game. We're trying to cut down on the Kickstarter feeding frenzy.

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  • BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    Oh the Returns game is not 2050 time frame? Somehow I have missed that.

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  • hotmumbohotmumbo Registered User
    edited August 2012
    My understanding is that Shadowrun Returns is set in the 2050 time frame whereas Shadowrun Online is set in the 2070s.

    On another note, many people are not aware that Shadowrun Online can be played solo - there is always an option to hire NPC runners. I'm guessing these hired runners will be controllable by the player(like Baldurs gate). This should hopefully address concerns for players who either like solo play or just unsure they can find enough people to join for runs when they are online. It was definitely a concern for me being located in Australia - I'm generally online when most people from the US and Europe are offline.

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  • CostanzaKCostanzaK Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    The kickstarter for Shadowrun Online is getting ready to release three Updates in as many days which will contain much information about the gameplay. I am looking forward to adding as many facts as possible to this page, though I still don't know how to link the video showing the game's current gameplay footage onto this page. ;_;

    In the mean time, I have tidied up the main post and added a link to songs submitted for the game's soundtrack. Hopefully more people will enjoy the tunes. You can leave feedback about the music here is you wish, as well.

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    "We shall Capture the Flag. We shall go on to the time limits.
    We shall fight in Hoth, we shall fight on the spaceports
    and the orbital stations, we shall fight with growing confidence
    and growing strength in the instances, we shall defend our Republic,
    whatever the cost may be.
    We shall Re-Spawn on the beaches, we shall camp the landing grounds,
    we shall PvP Flag in the fields and in the streets, we shall gank in the hills;
    we shall never uninstall."
    --Winston Churchwalker
  • CostanzaKCostanzaK Registered User regular
    I hate being that guy who double posts, but here is new information and a much better presented main page. There are also video links included. ...Though I still don't know how to Embed the viewer here in the PA forums. Anyone know how to do that?

    Anyway, the information provided is accurate as of Updates provided until now. I could use people's knowledge about the current Shadowrun PnP's version of character creation though.

    I'm really hoping SRO get's funded despite it's kickstarter happening at an awkward time.

    "We shall Capture the Flag. We shall go on to the time limits.
    We shall fight in Hoth, we shall fight on the spaceports
    and the orbital stations, we shall fight with growing confidence
    and growing strength in the instances, we shall defend our Republic,
    whatever the cost may be.
    We shall Re-Spawn on the beaches, we shall camp the landing grounds,
    we shall PvP Flag in the fields and in the streets, we shall gank in the hills;
    we shall never uninstall."
    --Winston Churchwalker
  • SutibunRiSutibunRi Montreal, Quebec, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2012
    I backed Returns, and am now backing Online.
    I fear Shadowrun Online is just not going to reach the finish line, which makes me sad, as there can never be too much Shadowrun..

    I really haven't kept up with all the things they have planned, I was hoping to see a more active PA interest in it in case there was a runner group forming once it released or the like.

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  • CostanzaKCostanzaK Registered User regular
    Well, Sutibun, even if the kickstarter doesn't raise 500K in the next day SRO will still eventually be made. The timing and press coverage of this kickstarter was not very admirable it being in the center of Con timing, and even so they have almost raised 400K of their goal. There is nothing preventing them from restarting the kickstarter later on should they not reach their mark. And even if their fund raising attempts should all fall on their face, the game will still be made... using funding from a game producer like Gamingo who will force their own concepts on the project and change the entire layout of the game to make it Pay-2-Win in order to squeeze cash from the players.

    That is the real danger with this project failing too much. The ruination of Shadowrun in an online format, instead of it failing to be made at all.

    And Sutibun, I would be happy to count you as a chummer online once the game is available.

    "We shall Capture the Flag. We shall go on to the time limits.
    We shall fight in Hoth, we shall fight on the spaceports
    and the orbital stations, we shall fight with growing confidence
    and growing strength in the instances, we shall defend our Republic,
    whatever the cost may be.
    We shall Re-Spawn on the beaches, we shall camp the landing grounds,
    we shall PvP Flag in the fields and in the streets, we shall gank in the hills;
    we shall never uninstall."
    --Winston Churchwalker
  • ArchsorcererArchsorcerer Registered User regular
    Well, it made a big jump. Now it just needs 75k+ from this point.

    XBL - ArchSilversmith

    "We have years of struggle ahead, mostly within ourselves." - Made in USA
  • ArchsorcererArchsorcerer Registered User regular
    They made it. : )

    XBL - ArchSilversmith

    "We have years of struggle ahead, mostly within ourselves." - Made in USA
  • Gigazombie CybermageGigazombie Cybermage Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    W00t!

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  • AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist Registered User regular
    It's going to be interesting seeing how all this ties in, as the "metaplot" is being overseen by Jason Hardy (the current line dev).

    Basically, Shadowrun Returns is going to weave its plot into the 2050s, and then SRO is going for 2070s. But all 3 interested parties are going to be working together. Which is, indeed, awesome.

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  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    I still have my Charrette books sitting around. I may have to give them another read now. I havent played a Shadowrun game since the 16bit generation though. This one looks to be pretty interesting.

  • BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    Athenor wrote: »
    It's going to be interesting seeing how all this ties in, as the "metaplot" is being overseen by Jason Hardy (the current line dev).

    Basically, Shadowrun Returns is going to weave its plot into the 2050s, and then SRO is going for 2070s. But all 3 interested parties are going to be working together. Which is, indeed, awesome.

    Interesting is not the word I'd use for JH being in charge of plot anything.

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  • HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular
    just threw in $25 after I realized it was quasi connected to Returns and they are both helping each other out. I figure, why not

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  • VisskarVisskar Blam! Murdered you!Registered User regular
    Couldn't contribute as much as would have liked, but at least will get to see what the beta is like. Glad to see it reached the goal. Was concerned on Sun evening when it still had 150 to go.

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  • AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist Registered User regular
    Bigity wrote: »
    Athenor wrote: »
    It's going to be interesting seeing how all this ties in, as the "metaplot" is being overseen by Jason Hardy (the current line dev).

    Basically, Shadowrun Returns is going to weave its plot into the 2050s, and then SRO is going for 2070s. But all 3 interested parties are going to be working together. Which is, indeed, awesome.

    Interesting is not the word I'd use for JH being in charge of plot anything.

    He's not bad, though I haven't read the horizon arc or the outcome of Artifacts Unbound yet. Not my favorite (Mulvahill, followed by Boyle).. but he's still decent. :)

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  • BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    Don't get me wrong, I want the IP to succeed wildly, but his (or to be more fair, the current) visualization of SR and mine are vastly different. I am also not impressed with his ability to handle errata (example, Street Magic 3rd printing).

    But! Even as a SR4 non-fan, the last couple of books I've read from the current line are improvements over War! and the like.

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  • CostanzaKCostanzaK Registered User regular
    Well, in terms of writers, it has been revealed that only writers that have worked on Shadowrun in the past are being hired to work on SRO. So those favorite writers you have? Those most hated writers you have? They may end up writing missions and story arcs for the game. You should check out shadowrun.com and see what is what in terms of writers they will be putting on the team. Also, perhaps writing a kind post about which authors / books / supplementary material were your most / least favorite and why would be very helpful to the making of the game.

    Also, I just wanna state this. It seems that after the Kickstarter completed successfully, the entire office went out to celebrate at a bar. The bar in question seems to have renamed one of their menu items in honor of the event the "Kickbeer." It's little wonder considering the campaign raised over $250,000 in the last 2 days.

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  • BasilBasil Registered User regular
    Woah, woah, this actually went through? Neat.

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  • BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    It's too bad the website they are using sucks.

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  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    Charette on the team?

  • ShadowmantShadowmant Registered User regular
    2 more days until pre-alpha early access on steam =P

  • EliminationElimination Registered User regular
    Shadowmant wrote: »
    2 more days until pre-alpha early access on steam =P

    I literally forgot this was even being worked on. I wonder what the price point will be at? It looks interesting, but a turn based MMO...it's gonna be interesting to see how they handle this.

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  • NocrenNocren Lt Futz, Back in Action North CarolinaRegistered User regular
    Isn't Dofus turn based as well? That seems to have done well for itself given that it spawned a side game, popular TV show and board game.

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  • FoefallerFoefaller Registered User regular
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    Shadowmant wrote: »
    2 more days until pre-alpha early access on steam =P

    I literally forgot this was even being worked on. I wonder what the price point will be at? It looks interesting, but a turn based MMO...it's gonna be interesting to see how they handle this.

    The Steam page makes it sound more like GW1/PSO than traditional MMOs; the "MMO" largely focused on connectivity with other players and a persistent story/updates. Mentions a campaign and the ability to solo though it.

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  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    Shadowmant wrote: »
    2 more days until pre-alpha early access on steam =P

    I literally forgot this was even being worked on. I wonder what the price point will be at? It looks interesting, but a turn based MMO...it's gonna be interesting to see how they handle this.

    As an old-school Neverwinter Nights player, I am all for turn-based MMOs. :D

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  • FoefallerFoefaller Registered User regular
    So, now that it's in Early Access, has anyone tried it?

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  • LunysgwenLunysgwen Registered User regular
    You're basically playing an Xcom themed SR game. Plays nearly the same with half the fun and looks twice as ugly right now. When they say it's Alpha, they mean it.

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  • am0nam0n Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    So, basically Shadowrun Returns Online?

    Edit: Minus the ugly part. SR looked pretty good, IMO.

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  • ShadowmantShadowmant Registered User regular
    Foefaller wrote: »
    So, now that it's in Early Access, has anyone tried it?

    It's pretty good for what it is. You can definitely tell it's pre-alpha and very feature incomplete (no items, customization, grouping ect ect). The 4 missions they supply are really fun however even if most of the features are not yet in.

    If you're looking for a completed game I'd definitely hold off for now though. If you're ok with a bare bones game and waiting seeing it grow month to month it seems to be a good buy.

  • ShadowmantShadowmant Registered User regular
    am0n wrote: »
    So, basically Shadowrun Returns Online?

    Edit: Minus the ugly part. SR looked pretty good, IMO.

    Made by different companies. They do share being turned based and being Shadowrun so you'll definitely see some similarities there. It's too hard to see how different/similar they will end up though as SR:O is very feature incomplete at this stage.

  • am0nam0n Registered User regular
    Was more in response to the 'XCOM with SR theme." That's what I thought of SR. I actually googled the Alpha footage and it looks very similar to SR. That or people just mislabeled SR as Shadowrun Online.

  • ZeraphaelZeraphael PDXRegistered User regular
    The Alpha build is very Alpha build. But it was fun to play around with it. The PvP Arena is amusing if small.

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  • RetabaRetaba A Cultist Registered User regular
    So has anyone played it recently? Any updates on how far along it has come?

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