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So you can now buy your way into the alpha!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDDzSOS0vzc
Prison Architect is inspired by Theme Hospital, Dungeon Keeper and Dwarf Fortress, where you build and manage your prison, provide power and water to your facilities, manage your finance, deal with needs and requirements to keep your prison population under control, and ogle those hot sweaty bodies in the shower wait did I type that out loud
If you feel you have too much money, you can also get your mugshot in the game! This is why we will soon have a future with Notch running around in every damn game ever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7hCerUHLEA
Alpha available now, $30 and up.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDDzSOS0vzcPrison Architect is inspired by Theme Hospital, Dungeon Keeper and Dwarf Fortress, where you build and manage your prison, provide power and water to your facilities, manage your finance, deal with needs and requirements to keep your prison population under control, and ogle those hot sweaty bodies in the shower wait did I type that out loud
If you feel you have too much money, you can also get your mugshot in the game! This is why we will soon have a future with Notch running around in every damn game ever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7hCerUHLEAAlpha available now, $30 and up.
Less sucky OP to follow.
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honestly I love how the trailer pokes fun at the game being in alpha
This is remarkably like an idea I had for a game, but since I'll most likely never make a game it's like they are doing it just for me!
Its cool, Toady totally stole Dwarf fortress from me when I was like 10, after I read the hobbit I told myself it would be fucking awesome to make a game where you are a dwarf and you build a super awesome dwarf city in a mountain! Of course my version was also an mmo but I digress, it is awesome to have someone make a game you had an idea for (as long as you aren't currently developing it yourself)
Also seeing that video saddens me that Subversion is being abandoned. I get why they had to do it, but man that's a great idea for a game.
Anyway, I need impressions! How incomplete is it?
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Waiting for impressions before I buy it though.
I think he had two major problems.
The first was giving the player direct control over the team, and apparently giving every team member the same toolbox. Spend all that time on an AI system and then giving the player direct control? Ew.
The second was the scale - restricting an IMF team to a single city limits the locations you can feasibly visit and is a creative dead-end. That is, you're left thinking, "They can rob a bank, or ... a different bank?".
Separate the toolbox into discrete skill sets. Set up classes that are good with certain skill sets. Have more classes unlocked as the game progresses (perhaps hiring people - a vision comes: a newspaper reporting on a scandal which provides the player the opportunity to recruit a model). I'd also give each recruit a personality, including traits like "adaptable" or "social", which allows them to respond to random events within the mission.
The "game" is looking over blueprints, determining which gadgets are necessary, and assigning objectives to the AI-controlled team. Then you push a button and the game renders the mission as you've described it - I kind of see 5 (or "team-size") monitors, each showing a different team member as they try to complete their objective.
Success of a mission is on a graded scale, with the higher ranks being reached by finding the best solution (fewest gadgets, best objective-team member match-up, no kills). I'd imagine an 'S' rank would provide something, but I'm drawing a blank on what.
Maybe more interesting / harder missions. Permadeath, disavowing, and capturing are negative consequences for planning a mission badly.
(I'm actually a huge fan of the original Mission Impossible. Does it show?)
/mini-rant over
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Prison Architect looks cool.
Steam // Secret Satan
But this looks pretty cool, too.
I'm really, REALLY hoping that the Blues Brothers will show up. Not to mention Frank Oz. You know, just one day, a beat up old Ford pulls up out front and one prisoner exits to have a heart-felt hug with another, while both are wearing shades.
... Yup. This game better offer the opportunity to recreate every great Prison movie/scene. Including The Rock. ESPECIALLY the Rock.
Watch that long video, starting at 35:25. They address this.
Basically they do plan to touch on the relevant issues, but it doesn't look like it's going to be a particuarly deep look at them. It's also told from a distinctly UK perspective, for what it's worth.
Edit: Same sound designer as Defcon? Nice. I loved the music direction of that game.
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-Oh my gosh wobbly! Hahahaha! What happens at the end there is gold.
I have no problem with indy games being in alpha for a long time, as long as they are playable.
Also: Reading the twitter account and coming across a shout-out to the "PA forums" confused the hell out of me.
It's pretty trial and error. There is a community wiki but it is in infancy. The annoying thing is that not all the items in the game work yet but it is not always obvious which ones or even what they're supposed to do when working correctly. Hopefully it'll come along quickly.
Yeah, wait until you see part two. The shit hits the fan fairly quickly.
now I have to go spend $30.
It's going to be so very awesome in like 6-12 months as all the features are added, and the bugs are worked out.
That makes sense. I'll probably fix that on my own time. Part two is all recorded and ready. Just got to encode and upload it. So that'll go up tonight after work.
Observations so far:
When starting out fences are your friends. They don't cost anything (bug?) so you can secure a perimeter quickly and not worry about the cons legging it right away.
I am loving how they made the building interface look like blueprints, especially how it shows the dimensions. It looks very nice and clean.
I wish there was a combat log like in dwarf fortress, so that when the poo hits the fan you can go back and figure out exactly what happened, who stabbed who, etc.
I encountered a bug where trucks would drop their cargo on the road and items would be marked as inaccessible, so workmen would just mill around doing nothing. An exit and reload fixed the problem.
Hmm, note to self, my holding cells will need to have four walls.
What? Useless overhead, that's what I say.
That...was depressing as hell.
This was recorded almost directly after the first one so I haven't taken any of your suggestions yet. Next one will be recorded tomorrow and I have big plans. BIG PLANS!
EDIT: Youtube is also still doing that thing where it uploads it normally then puts a silent version afterwards. :-/
No, no prisoners, noooooo. Oh that had to hurt. Poor bastards.
You cover the border of the map with a chain link fence, and then build separate buildings for each purpose, ie. a building with just cell blocks, one with just showers, one for a holding cell, etc.
This way you don't run into as many problems with foundations getting wonky or bugged, it's easier to expand, and once you get the clone tool, if you need more of something you just copy the old building.