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Whedonverse Comics: Buffy Season 8, Angel: After the Fall, Serenity
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A homicidal priest serving as the human aid of The First Evil gouged it out with his thumb when Buffy and co infiltrated his wine cellar
It was pretty awesome
Apparently in the last season.
One thing I always wondered is why the fuck a vampire slayer would be expected to deal with the higher level shit. You'd think the good guys would have something more powerful to counteract the more powerful bad guys.
It's the cover
There's a cool episode in season 3 called "The Wish" where we see what Sunnydale would have been like if Buffy never moved there. It's like a total wasteland and the entire town is run by vampires.
Edit: irony
It is interesting the way they integrated the title into the art so that it doesn't just seem like phantom letters haunting the hero's head, but just putting the logo on clothes for the first two covers hardly take advantage of the idea's potential.
My point is more that if the show were somewhat consistent, the world should not have lasted as long as it did.
The Wish was cool and dark
Alright maybe I'm being dense but I'm not sure what you mean here. Are you saying that the world should have been destroyed before Buffy came along cause there would have no one else to stop all the crazy stuff? Cause there have been like a bajillion slayers, as soon as one dies a new one is chosen. (Well, this was how it worked until the end of season 7 anyway). Slayers actually died fairly often, it's been stated many times that Buffy lasted longer than any that came before her.
Is that the one when the Master unleashes his devilish capitalistic plan to simply "farm" human blood? Giles, some random fat dude, and Oz are all that remains of the "White Hats" that are fighting the vampires? This is the same one when we see hot slutty vampire Willow?
Yes, that was an awesome episode. Particularly when Oz kills slutty vampire Willow. That always stuck with me.
Pretty sure they're called vampire slayers because vampires are their most common foes, and also so Joss could keep in line with his original pitch. They couldn't exactly call her Buffy the Everything Slayer, even though she's suited for killing anything and everything.
Most of the time they do just call her the Slayer, however, implying no specialty.
At least I think that was his name, the bully/jock character who always used to pick on Xander and then turned out to be gay?
I know he dies in the graduation day battle in season 3 but I'm pretty sure this was him too.
I refuse to believe that Glory was the first evil god or whatever to try to destroy the world (and Willow the first witch to go batshit, etc). My basic point is that the only way it works is if every single powerful being that's evil is incredibly stupid. My complaint about prophecies is something different. Also, the locality of evil apocalypses.
Or the world of Pepertual Tuesday
That would be good
But there's always been a chick there to stop them
And hence the show
Yes but you see Glory was an idiot. And insane. And she still kicked Buffy's ass. If someone halfway intelligent and coherent had been running the show, Glory's introductory episode would've been the last episode of the Buffyverse. Now, I realize there's a need for dramatic purposes, good winning, etc etc, but still. Why would evil stop after they kill the slayer, as opposed to simply going on with their plans?
"Into every generation a Slayer is born. One girl, in all the world, a chosen one. She alone will have the strength and skills to hunt the vampires, demons, and the forces of darkness. She is the slayer."
I had to go to wiki for that, I did not have that memorized.
Really, I promise.
Anyway, can anyone vouch for the writing. Weydon's run on astonishing was pretty slick but of course he is too busy to write every issue of his own creation.. sigh.
One thing I would like to see in the comic is an actual development of a mythology, seriously no work on vampires has talked so little about what vampires actually are. I think this has alot to do Weydon's dislike of religion. I mean how can you have crosses hurt vampires and never question once, in seven seasons, why they have the effect that they do?
You don't have to explain everything, ala episode 1. But there are pertinent questions that are brought up but ignore. The show's writing seems to have no love of mythology at all.
Don't get me started on the werewolves in the show either. I mean how can have a show about vampires and have only one werewolf character? Again with absolutely no development of werewolf mythology.
I think Buffy pretty firmly established that the world had never been destroyed because most evils simply aren't interested. A destroyed planet is just another rock and, hell, most demons seem to like their television and Bloomin' Onions. Even the particularly evil types would rather make people suffer over generations than kill them all at once. What would they do for fun afterwars?
Glory actually was the first god to try to destroy the Earth. The gods were apparently in their own little extra-planar dimensions for the most part, and Glory had only found her way to Earth because she was forced into exile by two other gods. Her little plan also wasn't to destroy the Earth, but rather to open a door so she could go back home. In truth, she probably just didn't care about the little planet.
Beyond that, most of the potentially apocalyptic events were said to have occurred on at least one prior occasion, among them the Mayor's ascension and that whole thing with the Judge. The Beast from Angel had also apparently been trying to revive Jasmine for a while himself, given that he encountered Angellus back in the day.
Really, if it's feasible enough that Buffy could handle these things, why would you assume that other similar heroes couldn't as well. Even if not the Slayer, then certainly one of the other multitudes of special people that exist.
Well the first issue was written by Whedon, so obviously its great. But if you look at the list of writers it's like a who's who of "people I would want to see writing Buffy".
I will have to buy 2 copies of the first BKV issue cause I know I will ruin one by creaming it the first time I read it.
Edit: And not every season finale has been about averting an apocalypse, really just Angelus and Glory and Willow.
I mean shit all the Mayor wanted was to turn into a giant snake, he wasnt going to crush any worlds.
Why'd you have to kill the best villian ever Buffy, why?
That's really part of my point. Evil apparently learns nothing, and good is always just lucky enough.
From what I gathered from the show, vampires are apparently just human corpses tainted by a demonic presence, such that there might even be a literal demon within their heads. The demons can only take residence so long as their is no soul, though remnants of the body's original owner are retained (presumably because they're rooted in biology, not the spirit).
Werewolves are likely the same way. It is explained that you become a werewolf when you're bitten by one.
Really, unless you have anything original to say on the subject of the supernatural, I think you're wise to just assume your viewers already know. Retreads are tiresome.
There was that chick one in season 4 that lead to Oz leaving.
There was also another chick one in Angel season 5 who ate him when he was a puppet and then they boned later.
That's kind of like saying you're tired of seeing superheroes fight super villains.
I dunno, works like I am Legend explain vampirism from a scientific perspective (well quasi). I'm not saying Buffy has to take an approach like that, but I find it strange that show that revolves around vampires never has anything to say about them.
Actually, the show revolved around the metaphor of high school as hell.
And they do have things to say about them throughout the show, though they restrained themselves to small portions and brief asides rather than engaging in lengthy examinations of the creatures because, frankly, that's just not what the show was about.
I dunno, I just think you write seasons differently. Angel was alittle more varied in that regard. Season 2, which is the best season of Angel, doesn't have one over arching plot but instead it has plot threads that run into each other. Its pretty cool that way.
They go through a formula, setting up the big bad as unstoppable, then Buffy comes through and stops them. I would just like a few twists in there. Season 6 was kinda interesting, with the trio being set up and then surprise, Willow is the big bad. I mean its about as subtle as the magic is a drug storyline, but at least its a slight break to formula.
I don't see how you can strip a show (or anything) of its best parts, essentially reducing it to a bare framework, and then complain that there isn't enough there.
Basketball is just putting a ball in a hole.
Books are just a series of letters organized separated to form words, separated to form sentences, separated to form paragraphs, separated to form chapters.
Yeah, each season of Buffy followed a formula. The same could hardly be said of the episodes themselves however, or the character progression and development of the overall universe.
If you claim that everything beyond Buffy herself was extraneous, then you really aren't giving the show enough credit. Most people would think you hadn't even watched the program all that much.
I just always thought the avoidance of the religious connotations of crosses to be strange. There is one episode of Angel where he goes into a church and nun recognizes him as a Vampire. It stuck out to me because of how out of place it felt, like they never ever do stuff like that in the show. Personally I think its an untapped story angle.
The Buffyverse uses a decidedly different approach then say, the white wolf rpgs or Anne Rice novels, which are surrounded in vampire mythos.