We think heavyvillain for being on the Grimmy wagon, yes?
That's about it, yes. He was near the end of the Grimmy wagon, extending Grimmy above Kay, before the wagon turned in the other direction. I guess we're just banking that at least one of Sabbat ally would have tried to save Kay given the opening. Although, that may have also just been faction politics as well, potentially.
I think we'd actually be better served looking at members of the Toreador clan at this point, as that is the only clan we haven't hit a mafia in so far. So, those of you who actually know members in that clan, or if you are in the clan yourself and not mafia, if you could begin to look at those people/your clan mates' voting records and try and see if anything stands out, I think that'd be our best shot at nailing another Sabbat tonight.
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After doing a little research on the source material.
Kay was part of Clan Lasombra, a sabbat clan, so I'm a bit skeptical that anyone from that clan would be village aligned. If a Lasombra antitribu exists, be it village aligned or neutral, they probably wouldn't knowingly act to save a sabbat. In short, what I'm getting at is if heavyvillain voted for Grimmy for the sake of his clan, than the dude is evil. IIRC Kay was also refusing to soft network, so I'm not sure he disclosed his faction to anyone village aligned.
We also now know that Grimmy was a caitiff, seeing how both Jayson and stever are still alive, I get the impression that none of the village aligned factions have an interest in killing them (could be wrong here since people might be holding off on some faction plays). So I don't think heavyvillain's vote was influenced by somehow coming across info that revealed Grimmy as caitiff.
Don't feel confident in putting out a vote right now. Kind of busy, but I can get some commentary in if I feel it'll be helpful.
Yeah, I'm not really sure about the heavyvillain vote. I could see him voting for someone else if he truly believed Kay was ventrue. I don't know if he or anyone in his clan knew that Grimmy was a caitiff. Depending on how things are going, I could see a clanless being a good target, if one's clan was worried about being screwed over by the vote. A clanless player doesn't have a clan that will retaliate in anyway, if one of the clans pushes the vote on them.
I'd like to hear more on the reasoning for dumpshock, partly so I can refine my search to look at relevant pieces of info. Shifting through so many pages of info is a pain in the ass.
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Dumpshock
Foolishness! That way lies ruin!
HeavyVillain be the traitor
- Terence McKenna
That's about it, yes. He was near the end of the Grimmy wagon, extending Grimmy above Kay, before the wagon turned in the other direction. I guess we're just banking that at least one of Sabbat ally would have tried to save Kay given the opening. Although, that may have also just been faction politics as well, potentially.
I think we'd actually be better served looking at members of the Toreador clan at this point, as that is the only clan we haven't hit a mafia in so far. So, those of you who actually know members in that clan, or if you are in the clan yourself and not mafia, if you could begin to look at those people/your clan mates' voting records and try and see if anything stands out, I think that'd be our best shot at nailing another Sabbat tonight.
- Terence McKenna
Kay was part of Clan Lasombra, a sabbat clan, so I'm a bit skeptical that anyone from that clan would be village aligned. If a Lasombra antitribu exists, be it village aligned or neutral, they probably wouldn't knowingly act to save a sabbat. In short, what I'm getting at is if heavyvillain voted for Grimmy for the sake of his clan, than the dude is evil. IIRC Kay was also refusing to soft network, so I'm not sure he disclosed his faction to anyone village aligned.
We also now know that Grimmy was a caitiff, seeing how both Jayson and stever are still alive, I get the impression that none of the village aligned factions have an interest in killing them (could be wrong here since people might be holding off on some faction plays). So I don't think heavyvillain's vote was influenced by somehow coming across info that revealed Grimmy as caitiff.
Don't feel confident in putting out a vote right now. Kind of busy, but I can get some commentary in if I feel it'll be helpful.
battletag: Millin#1360
Nice chart to figure out how honest a news source is.
Just to clear that up. I'm not saying either way.
I would vote for dumpshock (cos he's not me) but I'd like to know more about kaplar's reasoning first
I'd like to hear more on the reasoning for dumpshock, partly so I can refine my search to look at relevant pieces of info. Shifting through so many pages of info is a pain in the ass.
battletag: Millin#1360
Nice chart to figure out how honest a news source is.
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HeavyVillain
(Or, y'know, for the actual reasons)
Confusion will be my epitaph
Critical Failures - Havenhold Campaign • August St. Cloud (Human Ranger)
HeavyVillain
I am reaching a boredom point with this game.
figgy is a torreador antitribu. Eat him please
battletag: Millin#1360
Nice chart to figure out how honest a news source is.
Nope I've been in touch with others and damn arent we making big assumptions
!Figgy
Blugh...
He was just trepidatious at first
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