No, I'm pretty sure this is a case of you noticing the ones that are annoying and not really noticing the ones that aren't and then assuming they're all annoying.
Yes because my exact post was "I HATE ALL VEGANS AND HOPE THAT THEY CHOKE ON THEIR FUCKING VEGETABLES AND DIE"
No, what I said was that I have a problem with vegans and that's because the vegans I know are self-righteous and pushy about their food views. I'm happy to acknowledge that there are probably vegans who are lovely people who don't bother anyone and I don't mind them at all but none of them are in my immediate circle. Thanks for extrapolating a crudely extreme view out of a relatively mild statement.
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The GeekOh-Two Crew, OmeganautRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited February 2013
Sometimes I like to make a double burger with one beef and one gardenburger because they are tasty.
I like how you're basically going, "look I didn't make a generalization about vegans, I just said I have a problem with vegans!"
I like how you're the arbiter of good opinions and how if something isn't expressed in a perfectly nuanced way so as to make a person's exact thoughts clear you jump on them. THANK GOD YOU'RE HERE TO KEEP US IN LINE
quinoa popularity may be causing food shortages in the countries where it is harvested because demand is driving price to the point where people who grow it can no longer afford to eat it
basically every diet and food has problems and people who get up and tubthump about how this or that way of eating makes them in any way better than anyone else is an idiot - which is not to say all vegans or locavores are like that, but it does seem to be far more common within those groups - not to even get into the classism that's pretty common when it comes to dietary preferences
i only ever mentioned it because i know i'd sleep easier at night not consuming mass-farmed meat and animal products, and as the world demands more of it as china and india pull themselves up into the middle classes, it'll become more and more of a strain on the environment. but i eat it because i love it, i love using it, and i don't feel that guilty that i could give it up. being vegan does make life harder and most people who choose that do it for the right reasons - it's not just arrogance - so i think they deserve some credit.
fuck, man, social entropy is hard work tonight
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Donovan PuppyfuckerA dagger in the dark isworth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered Userregular
edited February 2013
I dunno. Following that rationale, shouldn't I get a pat on the back for changing to flourescent light globes? Surely the reward of knowing you're helping to try and solve the problem is all the recognition a person should ever need?
EDIT: This reads much snarkier than I meant. I mean no snark at all!
I like how you're basically going, "look I didn't make a generalization about vegans, I just said I have a problem with vegans!"
I like how you're the arbiter of good opinions and how if something isn't expressed in a perfectly nuanced way so as to make a person's exact thoughts clear you jump on them. THANK GOD YOU'RE HERE TO KEEP US IN LINE
not being able to order a sandwich with mayonaisse, a plate of fettuccine or a bowl of cereal - let alone a hamburger or a pizza - is a little bit more of a sacrifice than getting up on a dining chair without someone to spot you. but sure, you get a pat on the back, too
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Donovan PuppyfuckerA dagger in the dark isworth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered Userregular
not being able to order a sandwich with mayonaisse, a plate of fettuccine or a bowl of cereal - let alone a hamburger or a pizza - is a little bit more of a sacrifice than getting up on a dining chair without someone to spot you. but sure, you get a pat on the back, too
That's the fun part - I'm tall enough that I don't need a step up to change bulbs in standard height ceilings!
I like how you're basically going, "look I didn't make a generalization about vegans, I just said I have a problem with vegans!"
I like how you're the arbiter of good opinions and how if something isn't expressed in a perfectly nuanced way so as to make a person's exact thoughts clear you jump on them. THANK GOD YOU'RE HERE TO KEEP US IN LINE
Can anyone make any good cookbook recommendations for quick and healthy everyday meals? I'd like to take my cooking from a once a week thing to an every day thing, but as delicious as the things I make on the weekend are I don't think it's very good for your body to eat them every single day
i think @peen means that they have a problem with the vegans they know, based on what they know of them - and that opinion does not affect vegans of the world outside of that.
or that's how he or she should've phrased it anyway.
Can anyone make any good cookbook recommendations for quick and healthy everyday meals? I'd like to take my cooking from a once a week thing to an every day thing, but as delicious as the things I make on the weekend are I don't think it's very good for your body to eat them every single day
T T T TRIPLE POST -- "How To Cook Everything". This is the only cookbook I recommend because it tells you how to make particular things, and then 50 ways to change em up with the same knowledge. It's a book you'll find yourself reading even when you aren't looking for recipes.
i think peen means that they have a problem with the vegans they know, based on what they know of them - and that opinion does not affect vegans of the world outside of that.
or that's how he or she should've phrased it anyway.
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Alligator is delicious
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@Sal: i'm kind of falling in love with Jamie Oliver's cooking. so i'd say just about anything of his, although I will admit I don't have any of his cookbooks. yet.
As for vegan/vegetarian food. I have one vegan cookbook on my shelf. "How it all Vegan" and that's mainly because the author of said cookbook has the EXACT same name as I do. I've got a couple other vegetarian cookbooks, and they also happen to be Kosher vegetarian. One of them is a kosher vegetarian cookbook with recipes from around the world.
Can anyone make any good cookbook recommendations for quick and healthy everyday meals? I'd like to take my cooking from a once a week thing to an every day thing, but as delicious as the things I make on the weekend are I don't think it's very good for your body to eat them every single day
T T T TRIPLE POST -- "How To Cook Everything". This is the only cookbook I recommend because it tells you how to make particular things, and then 50 ways to change em up with the same knowledge. It's a book you'll find yourself reading even when you aren't looking for recipes.
Yesss I second this! I have how to cook everything vegetarian and I love it.
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Mixing up the first phase on the sourdough starter. I'm trying a natural yeast starter this time. The fun part is no knowing if it's working for a couple of days.
i think my tiredness is making me more of a lightweight than normal, last night i had one glass of wine and was tipsy enough to come home and be like, hm i need a milkshake and a burger for dinner , tonight i had 2 glasses of prosecco and im def tipsy
but at dinner today
i had like, smoked wild eel crostini, and split a baked branzino and some spinnach gnocchi, and had such good lemon cheesecake, mmm perfecto
oh i forgot, they gave us a little cup of mulled dessert wine too
also i totally accidentally swallowed a tiny fish bone and i think it scratched my throat a bit but i think it's fine
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lonelyahavaCall me Ahava ~~She/Her~~Move to New ZealandRegistered Userregular
i've got chicken thighs defrosting to be cooked in the oven tonight. I've got leftover corned beef. i've got some cans of tuna as well.
then we've got 2 bags of carrots, 4 english cucumbers, 2 heads of iceberg lettuce, 2 tomatoes, and some random capsicums.
gonna be making giant boxes of salads for my week of work.
we also plugged in our fridge which is out in the garage, so that i can start storing my ingredients in there as well as our lunches so that we stop taking up space in the main fridge.
also so that the mother in law will STOP EATING MY DAMNED VEGGIES!!!!
it's not cheap! we don't go grocery shopping for piles of veggies just so that she can use half of them in one meal. UGH hands off, lady!
lonelyahavaCall me Ahava ~~She/Her~~Move to New ZealandRegistered Userregular
she smiles, she nods, and she goes 'oh well you can have this instead!' and then offers me some random and strange thing that i don't know what it is. or offers me the leftovers of whatever she cooked. and i try to be gracious, but nothing she makes tastes like... well.... food. or at least edible food.
it's basically the same thing that happens when i ask her to not touch the ingredients because i'm on a strict food plan and I need to follow it. "oh that's so nice! but you already lose so much weight, you are looking better!" and then the next day whatever ingredient it was is gone! But to make up for it, here have some rice.
hence the finally breaking down and cleaning out the fridge in the garage and basically telling her "now that i'm working, the fridge in the garage is going to be for my veggies and fruits and lunches and basically all of our food." She nodded and seemed to understand.
new thing. can't find our salad spinner. was a nice one too. hand a push button on the top plunger thing. I saw it when we moved in, while his mom and i were setting up the kitchen, She had one as well but we were going to use ours. So I put it in the drawer with all of the other plastic bowls and tupperware and things. Now, we go to look for it and oh wherever is it?
Nope. no idea. But we can use hers! it's better, you see, it has a grater attachment on it. that makes it better.
i can't wait to get my own goddamned kitchen again.
@Stale: you hate me too! because I don't eat pork! but that's ok. because I still you.
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No, what I said was that I have a problem with vegans and that's because the vegans I know are self-righteous and pushy about their food views. I'm happy to acknowledge that there are probably vegans who are lovely people who don't bother anyone and I don't mind them at all but none of them are in my immediate circle. Thanks for extrapolating a crudely extreme view out of a relatively mild statement.
they don't even get yoghurt
But veganism isn't sustainable without widespread changes to agriculture either?
I like how you're the arbiter of good opinions and how if something isn't expressed in a perfectly nuanced way so as to make a person's exact thoughts clear you jump on them. THANK GOD YOU'RE HERE TO KEEP US IN LINE
quinoa popularity may be causing food shortages in the countries where it is harvested because demand is driving price to the point where people who grow it can no longer afford to eat it
basically every diet and food has problems and people who get up and tubthump about how this or that way of eating makes them in any way better than anyone else is an idiot - which is not to say all vegans or locavores are like that, but it does seem to be far more common within those groups - not to even get into the classism that's pretty common when it comes to dietary preferences
i only ever mentioned it because i know i'd sleep easier at night not consuming mass-farmed meat and animal products, and as the world demands more of it as china and india pull themselves up into the middle classes, it'll become more and more of a strain on the environment. but i eat it because i love it, i love using it, and i don't feel that guilty that i could give it up. being vegan does make life harder and most people who choose that do it for the right reasons - it's not just arrogance - so i think they deserve some credit.
fuck, man, social entropy is hard work tonight
EDIT: This reads much snarkier than I meant. I mean no snark at all!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix_F7rEExqI
That's the fun part - I'm tall enough that I don't need a step up to change bulbs in standard height ceilings!
i bet you even got it free from one of those booths at the shops
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPCiW2xFKf4
or that's how he or she should've phrased it anyway.
i feel like such a fad-person.
T T T TRIPLE POST -- "How To Cook Everything". This is the only cookbook I recommend because it tells you how to make particular things, and then 50 ways to change em up with the same knowledge. It's a book you'll find yourself reading even when you aren't looking for recipes.
http://www.amazon.ca/How-Cook-Everything-Simple-Recipes/dp/0470398574
Yes it is, thank you mully.
hmmm
sandwich special
"Sandra has a good solid anti-murderer vibe. My skin felt very secure and sufficiently attached to my body when I met her. Also my organs." HAIL SATAN
As for vegan/vegetarian food. I have one vegan cookbook on my shelf. "How it all Vegan" and that's mainly because the author of said cookbook has the EXACT same name as I do. I've got a couple other vegetarian cookbooks, and they also happen to be Kosher vegetarian. One of them is a kosher vegetarian cookbook with recipes from around the world.
i like to cover my bases.
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In retrospect I'm happy I didn't get alligator there, first time I try it I want it to be properly prepared.
Yesss I second this! I have how to cook everything vegetarian and I love it.
It's pretty good, though. The dough was way stickier than it should have been, which worried me, but it baked perfectly and rose nicely, so...
but at dinner today
i had like, smoked wild eel crostini, and split a baked branzino and some spinnach gnocchi, and had such good lemon cheesecake, mmm perfecto
oh i forgot, they gave us a little cup of mulled dessert wine too
hmm yes
What a blessed combination.
then we've got 2 bags of carrots, 4 english cucumbers, 2 heads of iceberg lettuce, 2 tomatoes, and some random capsicums.
gonna be making giant boxes of salads for my week of work.
we also plugged in our fridge which is out in the garage, so that i can start storing my ingredients in there as well as our lunches so that we stop taking up space in the main fridge.
also so that the mother in law will STOP EATING MY DAMNED VEGGIES!!!!
it's not cheap! we don't go grocery shopping for piles of veggies just so that she can use half of them in one meal. UGH hands off, lady!
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it's basically the same thing that happens when i ask her to not touch the ingredients because i'm on a strict food plan and I need to follow it. "oh that's so nice! but you already lose so much weight, you are looking better!" and then the next day whatever ingredient it was is gone! But to make up for it, here have some rice.
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it's a good thing I'm not self-rightous about food. I'd be fucking annoying. instead of just being right.
hence the finally breaking down and cleaning out the fridge in the garage and basically telling her "now that i'm working, the fridge in the garage is going to be for my veggies and fruits and lunches and basically all of our food." She nodded and seemed to understand.
new thing. can't find our salad spinner. was a nice one too. hand a push button on the top plunger thing. I saw it when we moved in, while his mom and i were setting up the kitchen, She had one as well but we were going to use ours. So I put it in the drawer with all of the other plastic bowls and tupperware and things. Now, we go to look for it and oh wherever is it?
Nope. no idea. But we can use hers! it's better, you see, it has a grater attachment on it. that makes it better.
i can't wait to get my own goddamned kitchen again.
@Stale: you hate me too! because I don't eat pork! but that's ok. because I still you.
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