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    SalSal Damnedest Little Fellow Registered User regular
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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Oglaf is delightful.

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
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    SnorkSnork word Jamaica Plain, MARegistered User regular
    man the graphical language depiction thing that he does is like my favorite thing ever

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    maritzacmaritzac Registered User regular
    BlueBlue wrote: »
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    Animation is not only hard, the writing has to be re-purposed for it. It does not follow the same rhythm as a comic strip. That's why whenever comic strips are remade into animation, so often they are so awkward and bland.

    And we're not talking especially good writing here in the first place.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7lj9qI8VFc

    That's not animation.

    Adding a few zooms and some text transitions do not make it a cartoon, nor does adding audio.

    DOn't get me wrong, the HiImDaisy comic dub is the best thing, but it's not really animation.

    The point was they didn't have to repurpose the writing and the pacing stays good - it's not the actual animation process (made of small frame changes) that would affect that aspect

    That's true. It's an animatic.

    Buuuut it has good pacing. It could be a very good base for a good animation.

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    BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    It started as a webcom - they just added the dub and the movey-parts

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    Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    yeah, the last two weeks of oglaf have been fuckin amazing.

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    algeyaalgeya Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    sorry for throwing the stone and not been here, but was out all weekend because I had an emergency (hospital involved, not me everything is fine now),
    anyway that video that will not name again kinda being posted because its something that is happening that will have reppercutions (webcomics fans paid for that thing)

    anyway my favorite animatics not animations

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciRVOINinzM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8C86XAjxeU

    before I leave as you suggested will post things I like
    but Im leaving you with things I love/hate
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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    yeah, the last two weeks of oglaf have been fuckin amazing.

    My favorite part of Oglaf is still the ice queen.

    She is just way too adorable.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    maritzac wrote: »
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    Goatmon wrote: »
    maritzac wrote: »
    Animation is not only hard, the writing has to be re-purposed for it. It does not follow the same rhythm as a comic strip. That's why whenever comic strips are remade into animation, so often they are so awkward and bland.

    And we're not talking especially good writing here in the first place.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7lj9qI8VFc

    That's not animation.

    Adding a few zooms and some text transitions do not make it a cartoon, nor does adding audio.

    DOn't get me wrong, the HiImDaisy comic dub is the best thing, but it's not really animation.

    The point was they didn't have to repurpose the writing and the pacing stays good - it's not the actual animation process (made of small frame changes) that would affect that aspect

    That's true. It's an animatic.

    Buuuut it has good pacing. It could be a very good base for a good animation.

    It's a webcomic that refutes the point that the writing has to be changed to translate well. Animation has a lot of factors that go into it, and it is so much easier to screw up any one of those facets and ruin the whole thing than in a comic form.

    Sometimes the writing won't translate from medium to medium, but it's not inherent.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    HugmasterGeneralHugmasterGeneral Poopmaster General YobuttRegistered User regular
    algeya wrote: »

    Speaking of Sket Dance, my god the initial One-Shot of the manga is freaking tragic for a kid's comic.

    For those who intend to read it (which I assume is all of you) I'll put this behind spoiler tags
    Turns out, this girl was pretending to be her dead twin (who died in a car accident) to continue being the girlfriend of the dead twin's boyfriend, and he was deluding himself into believing she was still alive.

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    algeyaalgeya Registered User regular
    rfilyaw wrote: »
    algeya wrote: »

    Speaking of Sket Dance, my god the initial One-Shot of the manga is freaking tragic for a kid's comic.

    For those who intend to read it (which I assume is all of you) I'll put this behind spoiler tags
    Turns out, this girl was pretending to be her dead twin (who died in a car accident) to continue being the girlfriend of the dead twin's boyfriend, and he was deluding himself into believing she was still alive.

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    Totally agree, sket dance is pretty awesome sometimes super dramatic and sometimes pretty silly (like the wontendo episode) this 2:30 vomic was made using the script of a 19 pages chapter, and it was adapted to animation (adaptation is the key word here) but Im super sure that most jump comics are made with the anime adaptation in mind

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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    Animatic scan be just as hit or miss as regular animation. Take a look at the Street Fighter and Voltron motion comics for what I mean.

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    HugmasterGeneralHugmasterGeneral Poopmaster General YobuttRegistered User regular
    If we want to talk animatic to animation, a fairly close approximation is Brad Neely's 'animations' which are mostly still drawings with voiceover.

    His miniseries Chicago, IL started as that kind of thing, but then Cartoon Network picked it up and now it's a full-on animation.

    I personally felt it didn't make the transition because I don't like the Cartoon Network version (it seemed way too clean, for starters), but I'll admit I love Neely's work so much, my opinion is likely extremely biased.

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    SageinaRageSageinaRage Registered User regular
    There's also the perspective that converting a cartoon into animation reveals bad writing and pacing, which was always there but just harder to detect in a flat page. If I had any artistic ability, I'd write a comic about superheroes who say entire treatises in between punches, to show how stupid most combat conversation is.

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    Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    There's also the perspective that converting a cartoon into animation reveals bad writing and pacing, which was always there but just harder to detect in a flat page. If I had any artistic ability, I'd write a comic about superheroes who say entire treatises in between punches, to show how stupid most combat conversation is.

    The best combat conversation:

    Ultimate Spider-Man

    You are so fat...

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
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    Pretty sure they need some actual dating done first before marriage could be considered. And then there's the parents to think about...

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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    There's also the perspective that converting a cartoon into animation reveals bad writing and pacing, which was always there but just harder to detect in a flat page. If I had any artistic ability, I'd write a comic about superheroes who say entire treatises in between punches, to show how stupid most combat conversation is.

    See, this is what bugs me about Girl Genius (ignoring the potato people), they are writing and drawing the story for a book. Its not an issue some times, but at others, where a book would be great with a single magnanimous page, a webcomic suffers. But on the other hand, after years of work and a massive fan base, they can get away with it.

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    crwthcrwth THAT'S IT Registered User regular
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    feels good to post

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    SalSal Damnedest Little Fellow Registered User regular
    Holy moly those are some disproportionately large heads in that last panel there

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    crwthcrwth THAT'S IT Registered User regular
    his head is just filled with frustration

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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
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    I'm just going to give you this bit of Sluggy and save you the trouble of trying to understand anything.

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    HugmasterGeneralHugmasterGeneral Poopmaster General YobuttRegistered User regular
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    MikeLLMikeLL What it do NEPHEW? Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
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    callbacks to things no one remembers from way back in chapter 2

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    ElaroElaro Apologetic Registered User regular
    Ew, Hershey kisses? Why would you have hershey chocolate for baking when there's chocolate chips available?

    You do have access to chocolate chips, right?

    Maybe it's made differently in the US, but Hershey's chocolate up here tastes awful.

    Children's rights are human rights.
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    HugmasterGeneralHugmasterGeneral Poopmaster General YobuttRegistered User regular
    Elaro wrote: »
    Ew, Hershey kisses? Why would you have hershey chocolate for baking when there's chocolate chips available?

    You do have access to chocolate chips, right?

    Maybe it's made differently in the US, but Hershey's chocolate up here tastes awful.

    I prefer the flavor of Hershey's over Milk Chocolate baking chips, but actually the point here is Hershey's Kisses were on sale

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Must be made differently there, then.

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    FugitiveFugitive Registered User regular
    rfilyaw wrote: »
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    I like that there are three kids in the portrait, but only two kids shucking corn.

    Tip of the iceburg, show not tell, etc

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    HugmasterGeneralHugmasterGeneral Poopmaster General YobuttRegistered User regular
    Fugitive wrote: »
    I like that there are three kids in the portrait, but only two kids shucking corn.

    Tip of the iceburg, show not tell, etc

    hehehe

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    Butler For Life #1Butler For Life #1 Twinning is WinningRegistered User regular
    edited May 2013
    oh my god

    I would not have caught that

    and I already thought that was a great strip

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    ElaroElaro Apologetic Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    They ATE the third one!

    Aww, it's funnier when BFL was just saying "oh my god".

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    PeccaviPeccavi Registered User regular
    Elaro wrote: »
    Ew, Hershey kisses? Why would you have hershey chocolate for baking when there's chocolate chips available?

    You do have access to chocolate chips, right?

    Maybe it's made differently in the US, but Hershey's chocolate up here tastes awful.

    Can't make peanut blossoms with chocolate chips.

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    knitdanknitdan In ur base Killin ur guysRegistered User regular
    Really it's just that there's no room in the panel for the third kid, so they're off milking the sheep or something.

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    Butler For Life #1Butler For Life #1 Twinning is WinningRegistered User regular
    Elaro wrote: »
    They ATE the third one!

    Aww, it's funnier when BFL was just saying "oh my god".

    I should not have edited it

    I regret this

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    knitdanknitdan In ur base Killin ur guysRegistered User regular
    My grandma used to make a cookie which was just regular cookie dough, baked, and then before the cookies cooled she'd press a Hershey's Kiss into the top.

    Like a giant, sugary nipple.

    “I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
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    ThetherooThetheroo Registered User regular
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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    #sodbodie

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Thetheroo wrote: »
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    Wait, what happened to his face?

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