Unfortunately that isn't really how language works. If I invent the Voggo I can claim that it's pronounced Bucket until I'm blue in the face, it's still going to get pronounced Voggo.
What nonsense. There's a difference between deciding between a hard and soft g and choosing a pronunciation that makes no sense whatsoever.
Initialism pronunciation being different from the words within the initialism is hardly unique to gif.
If you have to misspell the word to explain how it's pronounced, as in, "Gif- Say it like JIF not GIF" then you're fucking wrong and should reevaluate your life choices.
Unfortunately that isn't really how language works. If I invent the Voggo I can claim that it's pronounced Bucket until I'm blue in the face, it's still going to get pronounced Voggo.
What nonsense. There's a difference between deciding between a hard and soft g and choosing a pronunciation that makes no sense whatsoever.
Initialism pronunciation being different from the words within the initialism is hardly unique to gif.
There are a million, jillion words that were once pronounced one way but other people said eff that noise and pronounced it another. Someone saying it first doesn't give them dibs on dictating how it's said.
If you have to misspell the word to explain how it's pronounced, as in, "Gif- Say it like JIF not GIF" then you're fucking wrong and should reevaluate your life choices.
You must have a problem with a great deal of the English language.
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the problem with saying that it is pronounced jif is it presumes that we will never create the word "jif" for anything
saying "gif" makes it clear to everyone and is also a word that nothing else will use
Exactly - look at the confusion in reverse; if you pronounce it "gif," there's no ambiguity about the spelling; you can only get the "guh" sound from one letter. The sound "jif" can theoretically be spelled either of two ways. Pronouncing it "gif" matches the spelling every time.
If you have to misspell the word to explain how it's pronounced, as in, "Gif- Say it like JIF not GIF" then you're fucking wrong and should reevaluate your life choices.
Somewhere out there, a gigantic, gin-drinking giraffe's feelings just got hurt. His name is Gerry. Or George, I forget.
If you have to misspell the word to explain how it's pronounced, as in, "Gif- Say it like JIF not GIF" then you're fucking wrong and should reevaluate your life choices.
You must have a problem with a great deal of the English language.
With words that have their etymology rooted in non-english phonetics there's obviously some complication. Not applicable in this case.
What is this I don't even.
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I recognize both ways, because it's a dumb thing to get picky about. But I try to say it with a hard 'G' as often as possible because I have a speech impediment that makes my J-sounds (along with CH sounds) fucking dumb.
Somewhere out there, a gigantic, gin-drinking giraffe's feelings just got hurt. His name is Gerry. Or George, I forget.
o'l Gerry George, I know the gent. Immigrated over from Gemany where he studied Geology, came up withi some kind of Gel that generated a lot of Germs. At least that's the gist of it.
It's pronounced with a hard G to differentiate it from "JIF" which is the JPEG Interchange Format. "Jif" is also a product name in many parts of the world. Furthermore, it's impossible to say "jif" without sounding like a complete asshole or a child (or a child's complete asshole). DOUBLE FURTHERMORE ULTIMATE TOURNAMENT EDITION: Nobody pronounces the word "gift" as "jift."
This isn't something that I'd bring up in real life, but if I hear someone pronounce it as "jif" then my opinion of them drops immediately. It's not even up for debate; you are either on the righteous side of "GIF" or you are the loathsome bane of all things linguistically tasteful.
Younger me insisted on people pronouncing words the "correct" way, such as taking umbrage if someone pronounced the "e" in "forte" when describing one of their strong points.
Young me was also an idiot that cared more about being "right" than about clarity of communication.
I would use gif with a hard G because that's always how I have heard it said out loud, so that is the way that would most likely cause the least confusion. Perhaps if I was some kind of computer convention with technical experts I would go with the "J" would if I thought more people would understand it. Tailor your language to your audience and strive for clarity. Otherwise you are just being a doof.
As for the comic itself, I personally thought it was one of the funnier PAs in a while.
Who the fuck cares if people pronounce gif with a soft g? You don't have anything better to do with your time?
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I wonder if this is a regional thing or if schools have been teaching it a certain way that is causing this amount of upset over the pronunciation. Until today I never even realize that anyone pronounced it other than with a soft g. Thus to me the level of disdain towards the soft g seems unwarranted.
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I pronounce it like "gift" without the "t". If someone says "Jif" I can normally understand what they meant and it is not a pet peeve of mine. However when someone refers to soda as "pop" I mentally banish him/her back to flyover country.
I pronounce it like "gift" without the "t". If someone says "Jif" I can normally understand what they meant and it is not a pet peeve of mine. However when someone refers to soda as "pop" I mentally banish him/her back to flyover country.
Exactly.
Say the word Gift, and stop before you get to the T. Easy peasy.
Pop is a midwestern thing, I don't mind it too much. It was interesting to learn that in Kansas City, they don't say bag, but rather "sack". Bought a magazine at the airport during a layover once, and the lady asked me if I "had a sack".
Look lady... just because I'm buying a copy of Cute Bunnies Weekly doesn't make me any less of a man!
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I pronounce it like "gift" without the "t". If someone says "Jif" I can normally understand what they meant and it is not a pet peeve of mine. However when someone refers to soda as "pop" I mentally banish him/her back to flyover country.
Exactly.
Say the word Gift, and stop before you get to the T. Easy peasy.
Pop is a midwestern thing, I don't mind it too much. It was interesting to learn that in Kansas City, they don't say bag, but rather "sack". Bought a magazine at the airport during a layover once, and the lady asked me if I "had a sack".
Look lady... just because I'm buying a copy of Cute Bunnies Weekly doesn't make me any less of a man!
Some of us are from the part of the world where someone asks if you want a coke and you say, "Sure, I'd love a Dr. Pepper."
Or, "We've got a few kinds of coke: pepsi, mountain dew..."
1 arguments surrounding the sound of the "g" because of pronunciation of the word graphics instantly nullified because if that were relevant, you would pronounce jpeg "jfeg". ... so there's that.
2. Am I the only one wondering about the watch? this was clearly a killing. Are only murderous killing counted?
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Initialism pronunciation being different from the words within the initialism is hardly unique to gif.
There are a million, jillion words that were once pronounced one way but other people said eff that noise and pronounced it another. Someone saying it first doesn't give them dibs on dictating how it's said.
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Exactly - look at the confusion in reverse; if you pronounce it "gif," there's no ambiguity about the spelling; you can only get the "guh" sound from one letter. The sound "jif" can theoretically be spelled either of two ways. Pronouncing it "gif" matches the spelling every time.
Somewhere out there, a gigantic, gin-drinking giraffe's feelings just got hurt. His name is Gerry. Or George, I forget.
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With words that have their etymology rooted in non-english phonetics there's obviously some complication. Not applicable in this case.
The H is silent.
This isn't something that I'd bring up in real life, but if I hear someone pronounce it as "jif" then my opinion of them drops immediately. It's not even up for debate; you are either on the righteous side of "GIF" or you are the loathsome bane of all things linguistically tasteful.
Young me was also an idiot that cared more about being "right" than about clarity of communication.
I would use gif with a hard G because that's always how I have heard it said out loud, so that is the way that would most likely cause the least confusion. Perhaps if I was some kind of computer convention with technical experts I would go with the "J" would if I thought more people would understand it. Tailor your language to your audience and strive for clarity. Otherwise you are just being a doof.
As for the comic itself, I personally thought it was one of the funnier PAs in a while.
Then I deliver it as if I'm a cat hawking up a furball.
Well, the English language is anyway. Some languages have organizations that standardize the usage, but there is no such thing in English.
People who don't have long to live, is who.
Most people wouldn't go to such trouble but I use it upwards of 130 times a day.
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Exactly.
Say the word Gift, and stop before you get to the T. Easy peasy.
Pop is a midwestern thing, I don't mind it too much. It was interesting to learn that in Kansas City, they don't say bag, but rather "sack". Bought a magazine at the airport during a layover once, and the lady asked me if I "had a sack".
Look lady... just because I'm buying a copy of Cute Bunnies Weekly doesn't make me any less of a man!
Some of us are from the part of the world where someone asks if you want a coke and you say, "Sure, I'd love a Dr. Pepper."
Or, "We've got a few kinds of coke: pepsi, mountain dew..."
This is a critical question. Just what was the other person doing while Gabe went after the first throat?
"I call next!" he chuckled jokingly...longingly.
Then it was over before he even knew he was dead.
1 arguments surrounding the sound of the "g" because of pronunciation of the word graphics instantly nullified because if that were relevant, you would pronounce jpeg "jfeg". ... so there's that.
2. Am I the only one wondering about the watch? this was clearly a killing. Are only murderous killing counted?
Those who are being anal over the pronunciation of a word with clearly a display of dialect choices: It doesn't matter.
I'll take my critical acclaim and billions of dollars now.