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Snap into a [Superhero Movie]!
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The next one on the docket is The Wolverine, which hits July 26th.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th1NTVIhUQU
Thor: The Dark World is out this holiday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bFZJ-3zNFg&feature=player_embedded
Captain America: Winter Soldier is currently filming. Marvel has signed RDJ to reprise Iron Man in Avengers 2 & 3. DC still has no fucking clue how to make movies.
Discuss.
Edit: @Lars, sorry wasn't trying to hijack or reclaim anything. Just saw the other one got closed. I made use of your Thor link though :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th1NTVIhUQUThor: The Dark World is out this holiday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bFZJ-3zNFg&feature=player_embeddedCaptain America: Winter Soldier is currently filming. Marvel has signed RDJ to reprise Iron Man in Avengers 2 & 3. DC still has no fucking clue how to make movies.
Discuss.
Edit: @Lars, sorry wasn't trying to hijack or reclaim anything. Just saw the other one got closed. I made use of your Thor link though :-)
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looks like they are going to do another great job there, the first Cap was really enjoyable, I think this one will be as well
It was decently entertaining but had shit all to do with the book. Seriously. I couldn't spoil anything from the book if I wanted to. They didn't even have the Battle of Yonkers. The biggest, most recognizable action setpiece from the book. The infected in the movie were actually really similar to the clickers from The Last of Us, except they also swarmed like ants. The guy who was the lead henchman in Iron Man 3 has a sizeable role as a soldier.
The movie suffered from the same thing so many movies today suffer from, which is a lack of buildup. They spend fourteen seconds setting up something and then dump you right in the middle and you only care about the protagonist because he's the protagonist and the movie is telling you to care about them. The big establishing shots that are supposed to show the grand scale of the destruction are too abrupt to register, and the final act of the film is literally a quest from a video game.
It needed an R rating and, more importantly, an HBO miniseries that could actually cover the stuff in the book at a desirable pace. Divorced from the source material, it has a few good action setpieces and Brad Pitt is likeable enough. I'm kind of amazed it came out at all given the production difficulties.
Divorced from the book, it was an okay movie. The book format itself wouldn't have translated well to a 2 hour movie. Maybe with a sequel or trilogy, they'll get to incorporating more of the book's memorable sequences.
like, Zombies were the context
but it was more about looking at the social repercussions of massive events in a time like ours etc
So hearing that WWZ is apparently pretty good and has shit-all to do with the book is like double-bonus for me
Really do want to see it soon
Also I've been on a Marvel binge the past week, and really looking forward to The Winter Soldier now, especially after watching Captain America last night
Sebastian Stan was some great casting for someone who's going to be taking a villainous turn - he's the perfect friend to Steve in the first film, but scenes like when he snipes a Hydra agent or when he's scouting the train, he's got a believable hard villain look on his face
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Like the Engineer - she can make an electromagnetically-suspended net of knives small enough to slip between atoms, it doesn't matter how nigh-invulnerable you are, close quarter combat doesn't mean shit against her because she has control over independently intelligent atomic-scale robots and the creative capacity to use them at something approaching their real potential. That's so cool! It means that there's no such thing as a martial threat against her when it comes to fighting other capes, but that's okay, because that's what his entire run on The Authority was about in the first place!
It reminds me of the science fiction stuff he did in Transmetropolitan and I just love it so much
But what I'm saying is that Ellis's run on the book was incredible for what it was.
It also made me
And this is going to sound stupid
But it's really made me think about Spider-Man
I just finished the first episode of Scooby Doo: Mystery Incorporated.
Holy shit, that is a fun cartoon show.
Also good lord, Fred loves his traps. Like Jesus Christ, that man & his traps...
And Patrick Warburton is the sheriff?!?! YES......
It was a big blockbuster series, though. "Widescreen comics" and all that. I can enjoy it for the bombastic spectacle, if not most of the rest. Millar's work had the spectacle as well, but just took the mean-spirited tone too far.
And I loved his sci-fi shit, if you don't wanna listen to the Engineer talk about her nanobots for thirty panels straight then GET OUTTA MY FACE
I mean you can say Millar was too mean-spirited, but not in the sense that it's an extension of Ellis's tone. Ellis was violent and sometimes dark but the characters always came out with a smile and a sense of having won and experienced and grown, whereas Millar systemically raped three members of the team, including forcing the two active female members into sexual slavery
There is absolutely no comparison going on there; the tones could not be more removed. Violent and dark, sure, but Ellis's run was still a superhero book on a bigger scale, while Millar's run was a charnel house
Millar's Authority is utter crap
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I love sci-fi wankery when it doesn't feel kind of, well
wanky
well that's not true I always love sci-fi wankery but there is a limit to the smugness I can take
I dunno, I don't mind harsh superhero settings at all. Quite like them in fact. But The Authority coupled that with a definite feel of people being assholes because, even before Millar came along. It might be just me, I'm the guy who doesn't like Iron Man or Batman because they are jerks. But it was less enjoyable for me as a result of that. There was character growth, there was experience and so on, but I found it hard to actually emphasise with any of the characters, because even when they seemed to not want to do what they did, the didn't do shit about it. For people who were determined to fuck the status quo, they seemed awfully resigned to working from inside their own box.
Horses for courses and all that.
Yeah they were kind of assholes, but they were often called out on it and had moments of humanity. Plus there was some genuinely inventive cool sci-fi superheroics going on.
Meanwhile Millar's first arc had them go up a team of Avengers pastiches, which included the previously mentioned comics hating Hulk and a rape-happy Captain America.
it's been years since I read those comics so I am working purely from memory here
What I was really leading into is that I loved Ellis's treatment of superpowers because he took what he was given with their abilities and took them to the furthest logical extreme allowable by what had been established before, and came out with something sort of breathtaking
Now take Spider-Man
Spider-Man can pick up ten tons over his head and throw it, is essentially precognitive, is fast enough to act on precognition and dodge automatic weapons fire, and can stick to surfaces so hard that the tensile strength of steel will give out before his grip does. Most writers tend to treat him as being a good deal stronger than people, but that's not really it - his nervous system has to be more developed, faster, more precise
Theoretically you'd have Spider-Man fight The Lizard or Doc Ock and it wouldn't really be a fight - Doc Ock comes at him and for all intents and purposes Spider-Man could just walk between the arms, get up in his face, and flick him in the head with one finger hard enough to knock him out. He should be able to fight the Hulk and win because there's no way for the Hulk to lay a finger on him and Spider-Man knows physiology well enough to take him to pieces one pressure point at a time. Electro is no concern because he can't direct lightning as fast as Spider-Man can react to it
What I want is a Spider-Man who's that powerful, that casually capable of fighting crime or supervillains or whatever
And then you stick him in a book that's almost exclusively about Peter Parker's personal life. Like, oh no, the Rhino showed up, but that's only concerning because he's going to be late for his dinner date with Aunt May!!!
The part where the Engineer is the first woman on the moon
"Why did we stop coming to a place that's so beautiful?"
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Snap into a superhero movie!
I just got that
It isn't perfect, but it is actually really fun and has a good message!
I have no idea how it exists!
guys like Hyperion and Thor and the Silver Surfer and so on
Current Hyperion is amazing to me because he's this guy whose amazingly powerful and thus, obviously, it affects the way he acts, the way he thinks, the way he even sees the world, because he doesn't forget things, he can look at every particle that makes up your body, he's different in a very fundamental way, and yet recognizably a sentient and feeling creature with enough human-like traits that you can really empathise and feel for him.
Spider-Man has to struggle against challenges because that is a core element of his character. I don't mind that. Other characters don't always need that though, and I really quite like what you are suggesting there for them, I always like it when writers display superhuman ability in clever and inventive and genuinely, honestly powerful ways, and it's another reason why I've always preferred the more high-concept sci-fi stuff over the street level things.
But, I dunno. It seems you got more from the Authority than me. I thought it was okay, enjoyable at times, a grand spectable, but that it didn't hold any substance I cared for. A bunch of characters I didn't really like arguing over things that made them seem sort of hollow. They weren't likeable, even when they were right. It was widescreen popcorn fun, but I never felt like it delivered anything more than that for me.
Supergod was far better. JMS' Squadron Supreme, while it lasted, too.
Millar's run had one good element to it, and that's how he wrote the Midnighter. He knows how to handle the Midnighter even if he hasn't got nothing else
But you know what irked me most, even past the whole "Let's brainwash the two girls and have them sold into sex slavery, one of them hooked on heroin and the other paraded around as a big-tittied rape trophy"? I mean, not more than that, but I expect that shit out of Millar now
It was the way, in Millar's Authority, corporations are the single most powerful force on the planet, even a planet full of superheroes
Also he had no idea how to make a threat to the Doctor so he just took the Doctor out of every fight, nice thinking asshole it's like these characters shouldn't be pitted against normal martial threats at all
But Nighthawk was fucking terrible and kinda racist
and JMS is preachy in that (though not his worst)
Hyperion was really cool though
(I love Hyperion forever)
To clarify, though, the Authority was everything that I would love in a comic when it came to the concept, but just never really worked for me in execution.
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Millar has a pretty huge range, he just dosen't use it very often.
Like, it is downright heartwarming at spots.
man I really wish they hadn't posted Danny McBride all over every poster and footage of the movie because his entrance is so unbelievably good, it would have been so awesome for it to be a surprise.
But it doesn't touch
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god I love This is the End so much
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