What I want is a Spider-Man who's that powerful, that casually capable of fighting crime or supervillains or whatever
And then you stick him in a book that's almost exclusively about Peter Parker's personal life. Like, oh no, the Rhino showed up, but that's only concerning because he's going to be late for his dinner date with Aunt May!!!
This would be interesting, you'd just have to figure out how to handle him being conflicted.
Because no matter how strong a hero is we like to seem them struggle.
What I want is a Spider-Man who's that powerful, that casually capable of fighting crime or supervillains or whatever
And then you stick him in a book that's almost exclusively about Peter Parker's personal life. Like, oh no, the Rhino showed up, but that's only concerning because he's going to be late for his dinner date with Aunt May!!!
This would be interesting, you'd just have to figure out how to handle him being conflicted.
Because no matter how strong a hero is we like to seem them struggle.
Traditionally, yes, but I don't think it is mandatory at all
and even if you do consider it mandatory, philosophical struggles, social struggles, these are all interesting as well
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Zonugal(He/Him) The Holiday ArmadilloI'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered Userregular
What I want is a Spider-Man who's that powerful, that casually capable of fighting crime or supervillains or whatever
And then you stick him in a book that's almost exclusively about Peter Parker's personal life. Like, oh no, the Rhino showed up, but that's only concerning because he's going to be late for his dinner date with Aunt May!!!
This would be interesting, you'd just have to figure out how to handle him being conflicted.
Because no matter how strong a hero is we like to seem them struggle.
Traditionally, yes, but I don't think it is mandatory at all
and even if you do consider it mandatory, philosophical struggles, social struggles, these are all interesting as well
Oh yeah.
I just hate to see an audience give up on a superhero because they can't derive any sense of tension from their conflicts, be them primarily physical.
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Zonugal(He/Him) The Holiday ArmadilloI'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered Userregular
I mean I'd love a fight scene between Spider-Man and Mysterio where Peter has to protect a puppy while contending with all of Mysterio's bullshit.
What I want is a Spider-Man who's that powerful, that casually capable of fighting crime or supervillains or whatever
And then you stick him in a book that's almost exclusively about Peter Parker's personal life. Like, oh no, the Rhino showed up, but that's only concerning because he's going to be late for his dinner date with Aunt May!!!
This would be interesting, you'd just have to figure out how to handle him being conflicted.
Because no matter how strong a hero is we like to seem them struggle.
Then keep conflicts where he can be made to struggle, no doubt
Just have the majority of those struggles be in his personal life, or in how he helps people, or reconciling how much more good he can do for humanity as a genius scientist than as a super hero
hey you know there were a lot of people on this forum a couple of years back who said that X, Y and Z would never work in a superhero movie and what have we learned, hmmmm?!?
I am not having a go, but I don't think we should give up on audiences like that. People are not stupid. They can consume intellectual media, and do so on a regular basis. A superhero who faces philosophical challenges is not beyond the pale! I refuse to believe it is so!
hey you know there were a lot of people on this forum a couple of years back who said that X, Y and Z would never work in a superhero movie and what have we learned, hmmmm?!?
I am not having a go, but I don't think we should give up on audiences like that. People are not stupid. They can consume intellectual media, and do so on a regular basis. A superhero who faces philosophical challenges is not beyond the pale! I refuse to believe it is so!
hey you know there were a lot of people on this forum a couple of years back who said that X, Y and Z would never work in a superhero movie and what have we learned, hmmmm?!?
I am not having a go, but I don't think we should give up on audiences like that. People are not stupid. They can consume intellectual media, and do so on a regular basis. A superhero who faces philosophical challenges is not beyond the pale! I refuse to believe it is so!
Watchmen?
I enjoyed Watchmen to an extent but it was not the best of movies
and, in my opinion, it should never have been a movie in the first place
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I am extra ready for a Black Panther movie. Capture what made him so good in EMH and I am sold.
You can have some awesome philosophical/ideological battles in a story like that.
See I dunno
I think that would be hard to do since the Punisher doesn't really have a philosophy
he's a serial killer and he has his reason and all that
but he is certainly a monster. You can't really do an ethical comparison. You could go down the route of to what we allow our anger to define us, because Daredevil has always been a really, really angry guy
You can have some awesome philosophical/ideological battles in a story like that.
See I dunno
I think that would be hard to do since the Punisher doesn't really have a philosophy
he's a serial killer and he has his reason and all that
but he is certainly a monster. You can't really do an ethical comparison. You could go down the route of to what we allow our anger to define us, because Daredevil has always been a really, really angry guy
I could make an argument that Frank Castle has a Deontological lean to him.
So yeah, he's got some philosophy to him.
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Zonugal(He/Him) The Holiday ArmadilloI'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered Userregular
Daredevil Vs. Punisher isn't a philosophical fight.
Sure it is. You have Frank deconstructing Matt while Matt deconstructs Frank.
You have the Punisher go on about how Matt's really doing nothing as he's just feeding a corrupt system while Matt deals with what it means to be an agent of justice within the law & outside of it.
Really looking forward to more Gaiman-penned Sandman.
In regards to a Booster Gold film, I nominate James Roday as Booster Gold and Dule Hill as Blue Beetle(Ted Kord). 80s montage and/or dance scene required.
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This would be interesting, you'd just have to figure out how to handle him being conflicted.
Because no matter how strong a hero is we like to seem them struggle.
that's pretty damn cool
watchin that
Traditionally, yes, but I don't think it is mandatory at all
and even if you do consider it mandatory, philosophical struggles, social struggles, these are all interesting as well
Oh yeah.
I just hate to see an audience give up on a superhero because they can't derive any sense of tension from their conflicts, be them primarily physical.
Then keep conflicts where he can be made to struggle, no doubt
Just have the majority of those struggles be in his personal life, or in how he helps people, or reconciling how much more good he can do for humanity as a genius scientist than as a super hero
Or do this sort of thing, this would be great
"Captain Schnauzer NO! Get away from that!"
OH IS IT?
IS IT COMPELLING ME, JAY? IS THAT WHAT IT'S DOING?
I am not having a go, but I don't think we should give up on audiences like that. People are not stupid. They can consume intellectual media, and do so on a regular basis. A superhero who faces philosophical challenges is not beyond the pale! I refuse to believe it is so!
Basically Peter Parker's entire life
Watchmen?
Aw hells yes.
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I can't even watch the dinner scene in Mrs. Doubtfire without feeling super uncomfortable and anxious. It is terrible.
I thought it might have involved that big sheep dog he liked to use someitmes???
I enjoyed Watchmen to an extent but it was not the best of movies
and, in my opinion, it should never have been a movie in the first place
I actually thought parts of this were way too hamfisted
Like The Comedian being the shooter on the grassy knoll, or the flower in the guBANG
Actually I take it back the gun barrel thing was great
You can have some awesome philosophical/ideological battles in a story like that.
the superhero movie we all need, of course
is a Booster Gold movie
in which Booster Gold is making a movie about himself
IT'S NOT THAT COMPELLING
I wanted to see the Comedian killing Woodward and Bernstein but I guess that's harder to represent in a purely visual way
Do a Booster Gold film about him trying to get a Booster Gold film made all in the style of Get Shorty.
See I dunno
I think that would be hard to do since the Punisher doesn't really have a philosophy
he's a serial killer and he has his reason and all that
but he is certainly a monster. You can't really do an ethical comparison. You could go down the route of to what we allow our anger to define us, because Daredevil has always been a really, really angry guy
Hell, Matt's perfect girl is a hand assassin.
Nah. Punisher Vs. Dardevil, if Matt ever caught him in Hell's Kitchen, would be a bloodbath.
I could make an argument that Frank Castle has a Deontological lean to him.
So yeah, he's got some philosophy to him.
Sure it is. You have Frank deconstructing Matt while Matt deconstructs Frank.
You have the Punisher go on about how Matt's really doing nothing as he's just feeding a corrupt system while Matt deals with what it means to be an agent of justice within the law & outside of it.
and he is not really in a mental state that can be considered human any more
Please Christ tell me Gaiman is on the project, I literally wouldn't trust anyone else in comics with that property
Sandman: Overture
Prequel to the existing Sandman stuff, Gaiman is writing, JH Williams III is doing the art
In regards to a Booster Gold film, I nominate James Roday as Booster Gold and Dule Hill as Blue Beetle(Ted Kord). 80s montage and/or dance scene required.
Corbin Bernsen can be Supernova if he shows up.