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also because i have no social life to distract me from missing people. on the upside, i've got a lot of craft projects lined up since the fashion monster is temporarily sated! almost done with a hat. this hat!
yo @pooka I got a group. it's small, might could do with another.
Crossposting from the old thread, which I'm putting here because SERIOUSLY HOW GORGEOUS IS THAT HANFU:
Regarding Chinese traditional dress, there's often a lot of confusion about what's what. The truth is that there's no one "one true" Chinese national dress because of all the different ethnicities that are in China. As an example:
This is a qipao (or what I call a cheongsam), which became prominent during Manchu control in China. It's widely recognised internationally as a form of Chinese traditional dress because the Manchus were in charge when China became more popular and known among Westerners. In Hong Kong, it's still the predominant form of traditional dress, but it's becoming less popular as people start heading back towards their ethnic roots.
This is a hanfu, which is what Han Chinese (my people) traditionally wore. The one pictured is a more formal version of what Mulan wears in the first parts of the movie (in fact, it is a wedding dress hanfu). I wouldn't say hanfu is formal wear in and of itself, as there are casual and formal versions... but at plenty of formal Chinese ceremonies like weddings in traditionally Han China (which is most of it), a variation of the hanfu is what you'll be seeing them wear.
I find it fascinating that formal wear trends change on such a different timeline than the rest of fashion.
some of that is apparently to do with the loss of a traditional aristocracy
THINGS I'VE LEARNED FROM WATCHING DOWNTON ABBEY
also while rich folk these days could be considered an aristocracy of sorts, you no longer wear clothes that require a valet to help you put on (i.e., as white tie traditionally does)
and the dilution of tradition means that there are fewer occasions that justify the wearing of things like white tie
Yeah that makes all sorts of sense. I wonder if we'll see any sort of radical shift in mens business formal dress during our lifetime. Although it may look slightly dated, if Don Draper waltzed in to a board room tomorrow, his outfit would not be out of place at all.
I own a qipao. Somewhere. A navy blue one. I think it's at my parents' house - I asked for one to be made and they indulged me and I have yet to wear it and it will likely need to be taken in before I can wear it now.
If my sister ever gets married I will suggest that for a bridesmaid dress if I get to be a bridesmaid.
The more I think about a red hanfu wedding dress though, the more I just can't let go of the idea. Oh god here we go.
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Yeah that makes all sorts of sense. I wonder if we'll see any sort of radical shift in mens business formal dress during our lifetime. Although it may look slightly dated, if Don Draper waltzed in to a board room tomorrow, his outfit would not be out of place at all.
Western business attire is unlikely to change very significantly. In fact, while formal wear has changed, business wear for men hasn't actually changed all that much in the past couple of centuries. Jacket, collared shirt, pants.
What's actually changed are the little things that indicate trends - button styles, ties/bowties, accessories, materials, finishes, and colors. Developments in fabrics and tailoring likely also inform that.
Yeah that makes all sorts of sense. I wonder if we'll see any sort of radical shift in mens business formal dress during our lifetime. Although it may look slightly dated, if Don Draper waltzed in to a board room tomorrow, his outfit would not be out of place at all.
Western business attire is unlikely to change very significantly. In fact, while formal wear has changed, business wear for men hasn't actually changed all that much in the past couple of centuries. Jacket, collared shirt, pants.
What's actually changed are the little things that indicate trends - button styles, ties/bowties, accessories, materials, finishes, and colors. Developments in fabrics and tailoring likely also inform that.
Indeed. Hence why any major change would be quite radical. Would be interesting though. Maybe a new aristocracy will form after the US economy collapses and that will change things in a more drastic sense
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Guys did you know there is a skin condition that is often misdiagnosed as eczema that pretty much means you have celiac disease??! I didn't until my dermatologist appointment today!
So now I am waiting for my skin biopsy to come back to find out if I have it. I can't decide what I want the result to be - it would be nice to have an answer for all my weird skin issues lately but on the other hand gluten is delicious. http://celiacdisease.about.com/od/whatisceliacdisease/a/DermatitisHerp.htm
I hope this turns out okay and the docs figure it out for you, dude.
thanks. at this point I would like a diagnosis. also nice skin again.
summer's coming and I'm all over Modcloth like a rash looking for work and casual-outing appropriate clothes
I'm contemplating getting a body suit for work, as it's more likely to encourage me to wear a skirt
anyone have any experience with them?
I have gotten a few Modcloth things in the past. The problem I had is that the sizing is wildly different on the different articles of clothing, despite my using a sewer's tape and everything to check dimensions. I had to return 2/5 things I ordered and pay for international shipping, which may have cost as much as I made back on the return.
The dresses I got were pretty decent. One of them tore a hole through it mid-season and I haven't had a chance to borrow a friend's serger to fix it yet. The other is still going strong. So um, take from that what you will, I guess! In the future I'll probably stick to more local hipster fashions, or see if there's a Canadian ModCloth equivalent to cut down on shipping costs.
inspired by @vivixenne here is a mini post on traditional philippine formal wear
major style influences, generally speaking, came from spain and china for obvious reasons (1. colonization! 2. proximity! there is a large chinese population in the philippines). and there are lots and lots of ethnic groups with their own traditional costumes as well, so these are just the most recognizable/most acknowledged as "national."
for men, the barong tagalog:
traditionally white and made from pineapple or banana fibers (I don't know how). my dad wore one to get hitched in. only one picture cause I am more interested in the laaadies (fashion)
for ladies, the terno or filipiniana or a bunch of other names I don't know:
most recognizable element of course are the big weird sleeves. the examples I pulled here are mostly dresses but in my experience it's most commonly worn as a blouse + long skirt. I have a blouse I never wear because what would I wear it to?! also I don't have a skirt to wear it with.
I wish I had a bigger picture of this cause I think it's pretty! inspired by the flag:
more traditional versions
there are also some very cool modern versions as well.
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Jesus, really? That sounds like a damn fine thread. That fucking guy man...
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yo @pooka I got a group. it's small, might could do with another.
I'm contemplating getting a body suit for work, as it's more likely to encourage me to wear a skirt
anyone have any experience with them?
But all I'm saying is that everyone can see Khoo called that thread what Bogey wants.
Satans..... hints.....
Regarding Chinese traditional dress, there's often a lot of confusion about what's what. The truth is that there's no one "one true" Chinese national dress because of all the different ethnicities that are in China. As an example:
This is a qipao (or what I call a cheongsam), which became prominent during Manchu control in China. It's widely recognised internationally as a form of Chinese traditional dress because the Manchus were in charge when China became more popular and known among Westerners. In Hong Kong, it's still the predominant form of traditional dress, but it's becoming less popular as people start heading back towards their ethnic roots.
This is a hanfu, which is what Han Chinese (my people) traditionally wore. The one pictured is a more formal version of what Mulan wears in the first parts of the movie (in fact, it is a wedding dress hanfu). I wouldn't say hanfu is formal wear in and of itself, as there are casual and formal versions... but at plenty of formal Chinese ceremonies like weddings in traditionally Han China (which is most of it), a variation of the hanfu is what you'll be seeing them wear.
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some of that is apparently to do with the loss of a traditional aristocracy
THINGS I'VE LEARNED FROM WATCHING DOWNTON ABBEY
also while rich folk these days could be considered an aristocracy of sorts, you no longer wear clothes that require a valet to help you put on (i.e., as white tie traditionally does)
and the dilution of tradition means that there are fewer occasions that justify the wearing of things like white tie
at least for menswear, though I guess in some ways womenswear as well
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I own a qipao. Somewhere. A navy blue one. I think it's at my parents' house - I asked for one to be made and they indulged me and I have yet to wear it and it will likely need to be taken in before I can wear it now.
If my sister ever gets married I will suggest that for a bridesmaid dress if I get to be a bridesmaid.
The more I think about a red hanfu wedding dress though, the more I just can't let go of the idea. Oh god here we go.
shit how do i get in on this racket
Western business attire is unlikely to change very significantly. In fact, while formal wear has changed, business wear for men hasn't actually changed all that much in the past couple of centuries. Jacket, collared shirt, pants.
What's actually changed are the little things that indicate trends - button styles, ties/bowties, accessories, materials, finishes, and colors. Developments in fabrics and tailoring likely also inform that.
I'm so mad that it costs so much. I want it in my life and on my body.
I got a cool scarf?'
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thanks. at this point I would like a diagnosis. also nice skin again.
I have gotten a few Modcloth things in the past. The problem I had is that the sizing is wildly different on the different articles of clothing, despite my using a sewer's tape and everything to check dimensions. I had to return 2/5 things I ordered and pay for international shipping, which may have cost as much as I made back on the return.
The dresses I got were pretty decent. One of them tore a hole through it mid-season and I haven't had a chance to borrow a friend's serger to fix it yet. The other is still going strong. So um, take from that what you will, I guess! In the future I'll probably stick to more local hipster fashions, or see if there's a Canadian ModCloth equivalent to cut down on shipping costs.
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major style influences, generally speaking, came from spain and china for obvious reasons (1. colonization! 2. proximity! there is a large chinese population in the philippines). and there are lots and lots of ethnic groups with their own traditional costumes as well, so these are just the most recognizable/most acknowledged as "national."
for men, the barong tagalog:
traditionally white and made from pineapple or banana fibers (I don't know how). my dad wore one to get hitched in. only one picture cause I am more interested in the laaadies (fashion)
for ladies, the terno or filipiniana or a bunch of other names I don't know:
most recognizable element of course are the big weird sleeves. the examples I pulled here are mostly dresses but in my experience it's most commonly worn as a blouse + long skirt. I have a blouse I never wear because what would I wear it to?! also I don't have a skirt to wear it with.
I wish I had a bigger picture of this cause I think it's pretty! inspired by the flag:
more traditional versions
there are also some very cool modern versions as well.
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I've gotten 2 dresses from modcloth which I like very much and are good quality!
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