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[PlayStation] - This week: Strider and the Japanese PS4 launch
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Hey guys and gals
It's gonna be November pretty soon. Like, in two days.
Which means it's almost time for new consoles and the start of a new console generation, if you're willing to apply that label in terms of power (technically the Wii U is here already, but, you know)
I'm gonna try to use this OP as a repository for all knowledge of the PS4 to make it sort of the one-stop shop for general questions and potential buyers (eventual buyers, that is - good luck finding one at launch!), so if I'm missing some sort of cool or vital info, please let me know about it! Especially if it's heavy tech stuff, I'm a total layman when it comes to that sort of thing so I'm just trying to make this more general and consumer-friendly.
If you're looking for answers to really specific questions, it's possible Sony has already answered it in this extensive PlayStation 4 FAQ.
We ready? Cool.
PlayStation 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0d9d-cdxhk
When does this come out?
North America - November 15th
Europe, Australia - November 29th
How much is this going to cost me?
U.S. - $399
Europe - 399 euros
UK - 349 pounds
Australia - $549
What comes in the box?
- PlayStation 4 console, 500 GB hard drive
- DualShock 4 controller
- Power cable
- USB cable (for controller charging)
- Mono headset, earbud style
What's the controller like?
A pleasure dream.
I've used one first-hand and all I can say is that it just feels right. The triggers feel perfect, the D-pad and analog sticks are nice, the sticks are a good distance apart, it feels like it was made as a direct response to the strides that were made with the 360 controller. If you've never been into the whole symmetrical stick design, though, this probably won't convert you.
Cool bonus! If you have a PS3 and would like to use your superior new DualShock 4 on PS3 games, you can for most games! You need to be wired, but that's a sacrifice you'd probably make after handling this thing.
What about the games?
The following are the launch games for the PS4. Exclusives are bolded. Games in italics are cross-buy enabled - if you bought them on your PS3/Vita, you'll be able to download the PS4 versions free of charge.
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Battlefield 4
Blacklight: Retribution
Call of Duty: Ghosts
Contrast
DC Universe Online
Divekick
Escape Plan
FIFA 14
flOw
Flower
Injustice: Gods Among Us - Ultimate Edition
Just Dance 2014
Killzone: Shadow Fall
Knack
LEGO Marvel Super Heroes
Madden NFL 25
Minecraft
NBA 2K14
NBA Live 14
Need for Speed: Rivals
Pinball Arcade
PlayRoom (this comes on the PS4's hard drive, it uses the separately-sold $60 PlayStation Camera)
Putty Squad
Resogun
Skylanders Swap Force
Sound Shapes
Super Motherload
Tiny Brains
Warframe
War Thunder
Here's what's on the horizon
Any other tidbits for launch day and beyond?
I'm so glad you asked!
The first is that, unlike the PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4 now requires a subscription for online play. PlayStation Plus as it stands now is a pretty great deal that only increases in value with the amount of Sony systems you own - if you currently have a PS3 and Vita you're getting five free games a month on the reg and you know how sweet that deal is. If you're only coming into it with a PS4, however, it's likely that deal will be less sweet. You will get Resogun and Contrast for free on launch day, along with the PS+ edition of DriveClub whenever that game finally launches. Still, on the whole we don't know how PS+ is going to approach the Instant Game Collection in regards to PS4 games, but I wouldn't bet on too much too soon. Things will probably look a lot better there in a year or so.
Do you have a Vita? It's cool, nobody does. Well, I do. And maybe you might, eventually? If so, you'll be happy to know that it is a requirement for all PS4 games to support remote play via Vita, with the exception of games that use additional peripheral controllers that can't be duplicated. They've shown this working really well in on-stage demos and various reports have said that the games feel as though they're playing natively on the Vita - the latency is that low. I'm still a bit skeptical, and this feature is honestly something I'd never use anyways, but I'd love to be proven wrong in my doubt.
Do you have a PS3? That's way more than likely than you owning a Vita! Did you just buy Battlefield 4, Assassin's Creed IV or Call of Duty: Ghosts because you just needed to play it right away and lack willpower? If so, good news! You can use a code packed in with your game and pay a $10 upgrade fee to get a downloadable version of that same game for your new PlayStation 4! This was going to be a thing with Watch Dogs too, but, well, yeah.
If you have a PS3, you definitely know this bit - installing games kinda sucks! Kinda really sucks, and that's with games that currently have installs of about 7 or 8 gigs. So how shitty was it going to be when Knack and Killzone: Shadow Fall had to install and they're around the 40 gig mark? Well apparently Shuhei Yoshida confirmed recently that games will automatically cache data in the background while you play, rather than making you sit through an install screen.
The friend list limit is 2000, more friends than any person could conceivably have!
Also in a couple of weeks, the PlayStation mobile app launches. Among other things, this will let you shop for games on the PlayStation Store, and your PS4 will turn on and download them remotely. That's pretty cool! The Store updates when I'm at work on Tuesdays, so now if there's a release I'm waiting for I can just boot up the app on my iPhone when I'm on my break, purchase the game and it'll be downloaded and waiting for me when I get home.
So what's the bad news?
Well, no launch is complete without bad news, so here goes.
Oddly enough, the PS4 will not have DVD and Blu-ray playback out of the box. There will be a day one 300 MB patch to put this functionality in, along with a lot of the other key functionalities of the machine. Details can be found here on what this includes. It's not the worst thing in the world at all, unless you have absolutely no Internet access or a way to get the patch onto a USB drive to manually install onto your PS4.
Watch Dogs and The Crew have been delayed. Watch Dogs was originally going to be a launch title, perhaps the premier launch title for both this and the Xbox One, but has instead been pushed back to next year, but apparently within this fiscal year, so by March 31st, 2014. The Crew was supposed to be a launch window release, but has instead been pushed back to the next fiscal year, meaning April 1st or later. Bummer! Both of these games looked pretty great!
Suspend is not available at launch. If you've never used a Vita, suspend is a really great feature. Regardless of what's going on in the game, it pushes it to the background on the OS and lets you dick around and do other things on the system, or even just leave the game there and come back later. It keeps the system in a low power state, and for the Vita at least, it works wonders - I've left games suspended for well over a week without killing the battery.
DriveClub was also delayed. Sony initially brought this out as their big thing to soften the blow of making PS+ mandatory for online play - a free version of their new racing game. Not exactly fully-featured, but it gives you enough to get the Platinum Trophy, apparently. Both retail and PS+ versions were delayed until next year, but Plus users will still get their version when it finally ships.
No backward compatibility. Well, at least the kind we're used to. Sticking in your PS1, PS2 and PS3 games won't work. Apparently Gaikai is working on some sort of streaming technology for older games, but they're keeping pretty tight-lipped on this until its big reveal in 2014.
The PS4 has no DLNA support. So running a media server like you did on your PS3 appears to not be an option here. Bummer! I never used that functionality on PS3 but I know many who did. I guess when Sony said they were focusing on games we kind of took what we already had for granted.
So who's getting one? Did you pre-order? Are you waiting for more games to be revealed, or for revealed games to actually come out?
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Aretè - ninjafrizz
Ashcroft - IWAshcroft
AtomicTofu - AtomicTofu
BillyIdle - Billyidle_
David_T - DavidThrax
Devlin_Dragonus - Devlin_Dragonus
Dogbone33 - Dogbone19
DouglasDanger - DouglasDanger
IvanIssacs - ivanissacs
Ketar - Ketar
Maximum - MaximumJerm
Metzger Meister - MetzgerMeisterSE
Mr. G - MrGtD
Raijin Quickfoot - RAIJINQ
Scudo - Scudopants
That Dave Fella - ThatDaveFella
TheRoadVirus - The_Road_Virus
UnbreakableVow - UnbreakableVow
Virgil_Leads_You - L4ST_L3VI4THAN
Zay - zayren
Hey guys and gals
It's gonna be November pretty soon. Like, in two days.
Which means it's almost time for new consoles and the start of a new console generation, if you're willing to apply that label in terms of power (technically the Wii U is here already, but, you know)
I'm gonna try to use this OP as a repository for all knowledge of the PS4 to make it sort of the one-stop shop for general questions and potential buyers (eventual buyers, that is - good luck finding one at launch!), so if I'm missing some sort of cool or vital info, please let me know about it! Especially if it's heavy tech stuff, I'm a total layman when it comes to that sort of thing so I'm just trying to make this more general and consumer-friendly.
If you're looking for answers to really specific questions, it's possible Sony has already answered it in this extensive PlayStation 4 FAQ.
We ready? Cool.
PlayStation 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0d9d-cdxhkWhen does this come out?
North America - November 15th
Europe, Australia - November 29th
How much is this going to cost me?
U.S. - $399
Europe - 399 euros
UK - 349 pounds
Australia - $549
What comes in the box?
- PlayStation 4 console, 500 GB hard drive
- DualShock 4 controller
- Power cable
- USB cable (for controller charging)
- Mono headset, earbud style
What's the controller like?
A pleasure dream.
I've used one first-hand and all I can say is that it just feels right. The triggers feel perfect, the D-pad and analog sticks are nice, the sticks are a good distance apart, it feels like it was made as a direct response to the strides that were made with the 360 controller. If you've never been into the whole symmetrical stick design, though, this probably won't convert you.
Cool bonus! If you have a PS3 and would like to use your superior new DualShock 4 on PS3 games, you can for most games! You need to be wired, but that's a sacrifice you'd probably make after handling this thing.
What about the games?
The following are the launch games for the PS4. Exclusives are bolded. Games in italics are cross-buy enabled - if you bought them on your PS3/Vita, you'll be able to download the PS4 versions free of charge.
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Battlefield 4
Blacklight: Retribution
Call of Duty: Ghosts
Contrast
DC Universe Online
Divekick
Escape Plan
FIFA 14
flOw
Flower
Injustice: Gods Among Us - Ultimate Edition
Just Dance 2014
Killzone: Shadow Fall
Knack
LEGO Marvel Super Heroes
Madden NFL 25
Minecraft
NBA 2K14
NBA Live 14
Need for Speed: Rivals
Pinball Arcade
PlayRoom (this comes on the PS4's hard drive, it uses the separately-sold $60 PlayStation Camera)
Putty Squad
Resogun
Skylanders Swap Force
Sound Shapes
Super Motherload
Tiny Brains
Warframe
War Thunder
Here's what's on the horizon
Any other tidbits for launch day and beyond?
I'm so glad you asked!
The first is that, unlike the PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4 now requires a subscription for online play. PlayStation Plus as it stands now is a pretty great deal that only increases in value with the amount of Sony systems you own - if you currently have a PS3 and Vita you're getting five free games a month on the reg and you know how sweet that deal is. If you're only coming into it with a PS4, however, it's likely that deal will be less sweet. You will get Resogun and Contrast for free on launch day, along with the PS+ edition of DriveClub whenever that game finally launches. Still, on the whole we don't know how PS+ is going to approach the Instant Game Collection in regards to PS4 games, but I wouldn't bet on too much too soon. Things will probably look a lot better there in a year or so.
Do you have a Vita? It's cool, nobody does. Well, I do. And maybe you might, eventually? If so, you'll be happy to know that it is a requirement for all PS4 games to support remote play via Vita, with the exception of games that use additional peripheral controllers that can't be duplicated. They've shown this working really well in on-stage demos and various reports have said that the games feel as though they're playing natively on the Vita - the latency is that low. I'm still a bit skeptical, and this feature is honestly something I'd never use anyways, but I'd love to be proven wrong in my doubt.
Do you have a PS3? That's way more than likely than you owning a Vita! Did you just buy Battlefield 4, Assassin's Creed IV or Call of Duty: Ghosts because you just needed to play it right away and lack willpower? If so, good news! You can use a code packed in with your game and pay a $10 upgrade fee to get a downloadable version of that same game for your new PlayStation 4! This was going to be a thing with Watch Dogs too, but, well, yeah.
If you have a PS3, you definitely know this bit - installing games kinda sucks! Kinda really sucks, and that's with games that currently have installs of about 7 or 8 gigs. So how shitty was it going to be when Knack and Killzone: Shadow Fall had to install and they're around the 40 gig mark? Well apparently Shuhei Yoshida confirmed recently that games will automatically cache data in the background while you play, rather than making you sit through an install screen.
The friend list limit is 2000, more friends than any person could conceivably have!
Also in a couple of weeks, the PlayStation mobile app launches. Among other things, this will let you shop for games on the PlayStation Store, and your PS4 will turn on and download them remotely. That's pretty cool! The Store updates when I'm at work on Tuesdays, so now if there's a release I'm waiting for I can just boot up the app on my iPhone when I'm on my break, purchase the game and it'll be downloaded and waiting for me when I get home.
So what's the bad news?
Well, no launch is complete without bad news, so here goes.
Oddly enough, the PS4 will not have DVD and Blu-ray playback out of the box. There will be a day one 300 MB patch to put this functionality in, along with a lot of the other key functionalities of the machine. Details can be found here on what this includes. It's not the worst thing in the world at all, unless you have absolutely no Internet access or a way to get the patch onto a USB drive to manually install onto your PS4.
Watch Dogs and The Crew have been delayed. Watch Dogs was originally going to be a launch title, perhaps the premier launch title for both this and the Xbox One, but has instead been pushed back to next year, but apparently within this fiscal year, so by March 31st, 2014. The Crew was supposed to be a launch window release, but has instead been pushed back to the next fiscal year, meaning April 1st or later. Bummer! Both of these games looked pretty great!
Suspend is not available at launch. If you've never used a Vita, suspend is a really great feature. Regardless of what's going on in the game, it pushes it to the background on the OS and lets you dick around and do other things on the system, or even just leave the game there and come back later. It keeps the system in a low power state, and for the Vita at least, it works wonders - I've left games suspended for well over a week without killing the battery.
DriveClub was also delayed. Sony initially brought this out as their big thing to soften the blow of making PS+ mandatory for online play - a free version of their new racing game. Not exactly fully-featured, but it gives you enough to get the Platinum Trophy, apparently. Both retail and PS+ versions were delayed until next year, but Plus users will still get their version when it finally ships.
No backward compatibility. Well, at least the kind we're used to. Sticking in your PS1, PS2 and PS3 games won't work. Apparently Gaikai is working on some sort of streaming technology for older games, but they're keeping pretty tight-lipped on this until its big reveal in 2014.
The PS4 has no DLNA support. So running a media server like you did on your PS3 appears to not be an option here. Bummer! I never used that functionality on PS3 but I know many who did. I guess when Sony said they were focusing on games we kind of took what we already had for granted.
So who's getting one? Did you pre-order? Are you waiting for more games to be revealed, or for revealed games to actually come out?
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More important to me, though, will I need ps+ to play my ps3 games? When the 4 comes out? Ever? Do we know?
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How do people get into game betas?
Usually the company has a sign up on their website
yup, gotta pay for Playstation+
In that case who wants in to the metalbourne beta?
:winky:
they gave out codes on twitter and you can also pre-order it for a beta key
How much does that cost?
us.playstation.com/psn/playstation-plus/
About the same as Xbox live
But you also get 2-3 free games monthly, along with lots of discounts on digital purchases
It's honestly a really good deal
http://www.audioentropy.com/
cool.
I just hate paying for online because of the situation I'm in right now with my xbox. I wanna load up Dark Souls like, once a week, which is kinda online, but not a full-on online game. I don't feel like maintaining a subscription for just that is worth it.
The difference is they're offering games that are years old, whereas ps+ free games are usually 6-18 months old
Sometimes if they're new download-only games they go up for free like a month after they come out
http://www.audioentropy.com/
They recently announced they're continuing it indefinitely
But only for 360
Nothing for One yet
Here is more cool info for PS4 pals!
That is cool that they're continuing it I hope they add better games than Halo 3 and AC2. I just downloaded AC3 off PS+
Uh-oh I accidentally deleted my signature. Uh-oh!!
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Steam
They're dropping DLNA? Well, that sucks. Having a media server hooked up to my network to stream movies and music to the PS3 was a nice bonus.
That's a pretty extensive FAQ, I'll add it to the OP
Amazon and GameStop (but use Amazon, 'cause why go to GameStop?) will have yearly Plus subscriptions available for $30 on Black Friday.
If the PS4 ever gets actual PS1/PS2/PS3 BC going (DLNA would be great too) it'd be such a load off my mind. I'd rather not turn to less than legal alternatives to be able to play my old library.
I'm happy to wait until first quarter next year when there's some more games I'm interested in.
Also I've decided to hold off on buying Battlefield 4 until I get it on PS4 which is a big deal for me.
god damn adulthood
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.