MOTW 5-14-14: From my perspective, you are the weird one.

Crimsondude

Secret Avengers #3: Spider-Woman talks a bomb out of committing suicide.

Captain Marvel #3: Mad Skillz

Where'd she learn diplomacy?

Cyclops #1: Spaceship body repair. Just another course available at Xavier School for Auto Mechanics.

Undead Scottsman

That is an amazing Groot face there.

Crimsondude

I added Cyclops #1 since I just bought it, but I want to say that $4 for 18 pages of a digital copy + cover and title page is bullshit.

vagrant_winds

Is anyone else reading Starlight? Because I have been loving Starlight so far.

Brainleech

I have read issue #1 of it but not two and three I will get next week

I guess I should be reading Captain Marvel

mojojoeo

Did she just 'flirt' a bomb into not exploding?

Her pheromones work on bombs now?

noir_blood

Secret Avengers looks fun and I'm digging the art.

vagrant_winds

Secret Avengers is fun. It's nothing anything close to the previous runs of the title before it by the same name in theme, but it is a fun comic.

Gabriel_Pitt

mojojoeo wrote: »

Did she just 'flirt' a bomb into not exploding?

Her pheromones work on bombs now?

Caramel gellato is really good.

And if you're going to make a pretty big to-do about your suicide, it probably means you're hoping someone is going to try and stop you. Bomb just needed a hug.

Crimsondude

I'm surprised she didn't make a crack about him picking a Russian name or quoting Rust Cohle.

Crimsondude

Oh, and goddamn. New Avengers #18:

The conclave of Black Panthers made every shitty argument that has been proffered to justify the most terrible, evil decisions ever made by humanity.

TexiKen

Avengers #29, Tony stands up to bullies:

And Steve punches him like some preppy school jock!

New Avengers #18, ends justifies the means, the newest recruit wonders what's going on, and a realy great last line by T'Challa:

Crimsondude

Jerkass Steve

nightmarenny

Crimsondude wrote: »

Jerkass Steve

Nah.

Dude just found out he was mind wiped by his best friend. He's aloud to be pissed. Also I'd say the post you made before that about the Panther Council shows he wasn't all that far off.

I actually love this whole situation. It feels like what civil war completely failed at being.

Crimsondude

nightmarenny wrote: »

Crimsondude wrote: »

Jerkass Steve

Nah.

Dude just found out he was mind wiped by his best friend. He's aloud to be pissed. Also I'd say the post you made before that about the Panther Council shows he wasn't all that far off.

I actually love this whole situation. It feels like what civil war completely failed at being.

Except that I read T'Challa's response, as well as his non-response to "Why haven't you killed the Atlantean" as being tacit rejections of that thinking.

And I cannot fathom Bruce actually tolerating genocide just because he joined the team because he's not actually the Worldbreaker.

BlankZoe

Crimsondude wrote: »

nightmarenny wrote: »

Crimsondude wrote: »

Jerkass Steve

Nah.

Dude just found out he was mind wiped by his best friend. He's aloud to be pissed. Also I'd say the post you made before that about the Panther Council shows he wasn't all that far off.

I actually love this whole situation. It feels like what civil war completely failed at being.

Except that I read T'Challa's response, as well as his non-response to "Why haven't you killed the Atlantean" as being tacit rejections of that thinking.

And I cannot fathom Bruce actually tolerating genocide just because he joined the team because he's not actually the Worldbreaker.

Well

T'Challa didn't necessarily not respond, the scene just cut away before we saw his response.

I'm betting there is no way both T'Challa and Namor make it out of New Avengers alive. Hickman wouldn't make their frenemies relationship so good if he wasn't gonna cause some pain down the road.

Owenashi

nightmarenny wrote: »

Crimsondude wrote: »

Jerkass Steve

Nah.

Dude just found out he was mind wiped by his best friend. He's aloud to be pissed.

Well...

At least Tony's side-team hasn't gotten the Earth blown up yet. Can't say the same for Steve and his. Tony's managed to not self-implode as well in the process. You'd think with all the grief T'challa and Namor give each other that they'd be the first to kill each other but nope, Rogue and Wanda beat them to it.

Phillishere

Blankzilla wrote: »

Crimsondude wrote: »

nightmarenny wrote: »

Crimsondude wrote: »

Jerkass Steve

Nah.

Dude just found out he was mind wiped by his best friend. He's aloud to be pissed. Also I'd say the post you made before that about the Panther Council shows he wasn't all that far off.

I actually love this whole situation. It feels like what civil war completely failed at being.

Except that I read T'Challa's response, as well as his non-response to "Why haven't you killed the Atlantean" as being tacit rejections of that thinking.

And I cannot fathom Bruce actually tolerating genocide just because he joined the team because he's not actually the Worldbreaker.

Well

T'Challa didn't necessarily not respond, the scene just cut away before we saw his response.

I'm betting there is no way both T'Challa and Namor make it out of New Avengers alive. Hickman wouldn't make their frenemies relationship so good if he wasn't gonna cause some pain down the road.

I'm thinking we are going to see T'Challa and Namor survive, but Wakanda will not survive this storyline. There are too many seeds being planted that highlight the dark side of Wakanda's isolation and how it has corrupted the society. My guess is that there is going to come a moment when Black Panther has to decide between the world and Wakanda, and he chooses the world.

Bullio

Captain America #20

SHIELD made a Helicarrier transformer

vagrant_winds

I'm with Tony on this whole thing.

On the Steve route they all die and their universe blows up and he gets to say 'at least we didn't sacrifice our morals'.
On the Tony route they get to actually live another day and progress further towards a potential permanent solution.

Golden Yak

Bullio wrote: »

Captain America #20

SHIELD made a Helicarrier transformer

An obvious move, in hindsight.

If you're going to have a big ridiculous flying fortress thing, it might as well transform into a giant robot too.

Linespider5

Frankly, it's kind of amazing they haven't done this before. Or have they?

Undead Scottsman

I have an issue with it

What exactly is it supposed to fight? Other than Galactus and Celestials, who would kick it's ass, I'm not sure of anything about that size.

Centipede Damascus

Undead Scottsman wrote: »

I have an issue with it

What exactly is it supposed to fight? Other than Galactus and Celestials, who would kick it's ass, I'm not sure of anything about that size.

Fin Fang Foom? Mole Man monsters? Giant sea monsters that people like Namor and Attuma have drug up from time to time?

UnbrokenEva

Undead Scottsman wrote: »

I have an issue with it

What exactly is it supposed to fight? Other than Galactus and Celestials, who would kick it's ass, I'm not sure of anything about that size.

well, Madripoor is a giant dragon right now...

Golden Yak

Undead Scottsman wrote: »

I have an issue with it

What exactly is it supposed to fight? Other than Galactus and Celestials, who would kick it's ass, I'm not sure of anything about that size.

It's a pre-emptive endeavor. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Or, whatever, a megaton.

I can just imagine SHIELD explaining this to the budget people.

"Maybe you guys didn't hear us: we said we can make it turn into a giant robot."

Crimsondude

Hahaha

Activate ...

MEGA MAID!


God, that is so amazing. I can imagine in the universe them pitching the idea and Tony getting the biggest hard-on. Like, YES, I CAN MAKE THE HELICARRIER INTO AN IRON MAN TRANSFORMER.

see317

Golden Yak wrote: »

Undead Scottsman wrote: »

I have an issue with it

What exactly is it supposed to fight? Other than Galactus and Celestials, who would kick it's ass, I'm not sure of anything about that size.

It's a pre-emptive endeavor. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Or, whatever, a megaton.

I can just imagine SHIELD explaining this to the budget people.

"Maybe you guys didn't hear us: we said we can make it turn into a giant robot."

"Sure it's a cool idea and all, but is it cool enough?
"Well, I suppose we could wreathe the head in blue flame... maybe give it a giant flaming sword too.
"Budget approved, now let's break out the coke and hookers.

nightmarenny

vagrant_winds wrote: »

I'm with Tony on this whole thing.

On the Steve route they all die and their universe blows up and he gets to say 'at least we didn't sacrifice our morals'.
On the Tony route they get to actually live another day and progress further towards a potential permanent solution.

I don't really think we have enough information to say that with any certainly. So far the closest any of the Illuminati's immoral acts have come to doing anything was when THanos almost used their bombs to destroy the earth.

So you know.

manji

Blade of the Immortal vol 29, the deadliest woman in comics makes a welcome return

Gonmun

My motw was hearing my son get a shoutout for wearing his Deadpool hoodie with the hood zipped up from Ty Templeton.

Gabriel_Pitt

It's always a treat to see Makie in action.

Centipede Damascus wrote: »

Undead Scottsman wrote: »

I have an issue with it

What exactly is it supposed to fight? Other than Galactus and Celestials, who would kick it's ass, I'm not sure of anything about that size.

Fin Fang Foom? Mole Man monsters? Giant sea monsters that people like Namor and Attuma have drug up from time to time?

Sentinels?

see317

Gabriel_Pitt wrote: »

It's always a treat to see Makie in action.

Centipede Damascus wrote: »

Undead Scottsman wrote: »

I have an issue with it

What exactly is it supposed to fight? Other than Galactus and Celestials, who would kick it's ass, I'm not sure of anything about that size.

Fin Fang Foom? Mole Man monsters? Giant sea monsters that people like Namor and Attuma have drug up from time to time?

Sentinels?

Do Sentinels get that big? I was under the impression that they typically stood around 3 stories tall (30-40 feet or so). The Helicarrier-bot is standing next to buildings at least that tall that don't reach it's knees.

Gabriel_Pitt

I never said it was supposed to be a fair fight.

Golden Yak

Master Molds could be that big. Or Tri-Sentinel! Remember him? Eh? Tri-Sentinel!

Linespider5

I dunno. Any sentinel that relies on tear gas sounds lame to me.

Automaticzen

vagrant_winds wrote: »

I'm with Tony on this whole thing.

On the Steve route they all die and their universe blows up and he gets to say 'at least we didn't sacrifice our morals'.
On the Tony route they get to actually live another day and progress further towards a potential permanent solution.

Steve's route is the "what are we fighting for if we become just like the Builders, Black Priests, etc?" Destroy an Earth and you're still killing billions.

Tony's route is "let's do evil, until we can find a good way out" which is still doing an evil thing. Let's be honest, the old Authority is more "good" than the Illuminati. I like the team, but by no stretch is Steve being a jerkass in this case.

It's odd that people flipped out over Superman snapping one neck in Man of Steel, but the Illuminati blowing up Earths and making deals with demons is still considered "good".

Undead Scottsman

Automaticzen wrote: »

vagrant_winds wrote: »

I'm with Tony on this whole thing.

On the Steve route they all die and their universe blows up and he gets to say 'at least we didn't sacrifice our morals'.
On the Tony route they get to actually live another day and progress further towards a potential permanent solution.

Steve's route is the "what are we fighting for if we become just like the Builders, Black Priests, etc?" Destroy an Earth and you're still killing billions.

Tony's route is "let's do evil, until we can find a good way out" which is still doing an evil thing. Let's be honest, the old Authority is more "good" than the Illuminati. I like the team, but by no stretch is Steve being a jerkass in this case.

It's odd that people flipped out over Superman snapping one neck in Man of Steel, but the Illuminati blowing up Earths and making deals with demons is still considered "good".

The point is that the Illuminati are NOT being good; it's about good men (who aren't fucking Superman) being lead down the path of necessary evil.

Contrasted to Sun God, the Superman analog, who is flat out never going down that path. Because he's Superman(analog).

Crimsondude

Undead Scottsman wrote: »

Automaticzen wrote: »

vagrant_winds wrote: »

I'm with Tony on this whole thing.

On the Steve route they all die and their universe blows up and he gets to say 'at least we didn't sacrifice our morals'.
On the Tony route they get to actually live another day and progress further towards a potential permanent solution.

Steve's route is the "what are we fighting for if we become just like the Builders, Black Priests, etc?" Destroy an Earth and you're still killing billions.

Tony's route is "let's do evil, until we can find a good way out" which is still doing an evil thing. Let's be honest, the old Authority is more "good" than the Illuminati. I like the team, but by no stretch is Steve being a jerkass in this case.

It's odd that people flipped out over Superman snapping one neck in Man of Steel, but the Illuminati blowing up Earths and making deals with demons is still considered "good".

The point is that the Illuminati are NOT being good; it's about good men (who aren't fucking Superman) being lead down the path of necessary evil.

Contrasted to Sun God, the Superman analog, who is flat out never going down that path. Because he's Superman(analog).

I'm actually expecting Sun God to knock some sense into them. Or beat out some of the stupidity.

BlankZoe

I really, genuinely love the Great Society and hope this cover isn't accurate to next issue:

Undead Scottsman

I love how Mister Fantastic looks like the dog just peed on the carpet.