@Thomamelas was talking about Sprey earlier. I guess he has a bit of an axe to grind, but it's not like I have a hard time believing that there is probably something insane/retarded/deeply fishy about a "do-everything" plane that costs $200m a pop
-snip-
Might I ask your opinion on the F-35/SB?
I assume you mean the F-35B variant? I think it's kind of a goofy design but most STOVL designs are. I think the Marines have a compelling argument for why a force focused on amphibious invasions needs something goofy. They need the ability to support an invasion force that may or may not have access to an airfield. And they may not have support from a carrier. So organic air makes sense and you're talking about specialized needs. Personally I think it should have been a separate design, and that the Harrier needs replacing. I suspect it's replacement will be a STOVL aircraft but one designed from the ground up as one without comprises.
I think it's the worst of the F-35 variants but that it's better then trying to maintain the Harrier. And in a CAS role, the stealth will be pretty important for protection against MANPADs.
Nooope. SB.
Things start to go SB by page two, and it just escalates from there.
But yeah Marines you do not need your own jet.
Forgive me but it's been a long day and I really don't have any interest in trying to read through a forum thread to try to puzzle out what you mean. But I disagree about the idea of the Marines not needing their own aircraft. They've got a weird niche role and it's one that requires air support. And they can't count on the Navy to have a carrier near by all of the time. Shifting a carrier group isn't trivial and you don't do it quickly. So the Marines need a degree of organic air support that doesn't need a proper airfield or can work off a helicopter carrier.
...I find this argument uncompelling. These services aren't out picking and choosing their own missions - they're supposed to operate as combined force, that's been the goal and objective of pretty much all modern military thinking.
I'm struggling to think of a situation where you'd be invading something with the marines, and for some reason not be tasking a carrier group to support the effort - especially since in an actual large scale conflict, anyone who's killing carrier groups is going to have no trouble killing makeshift short runways in the middle of wherever the hell.
A couple of situations spring to mind. Situations where rapid response is critical. We keep Marine expeditionary units forward deployed so they can be somewhere in 24 to 48 hours. The hypothetical battle plan for Grenada called for this. They went a different way but the idea is for somethings like a large scale hostage situation or a situation where you need to protect/evacuate aid workers you may need to have Marines in place as quickly as possible. Another scenario is the island hopping in WWII. Marines often made invasions unsupported by carriers. There are a finite amount of carriers but lots of places to invade. Another situation is misdirection. You can quietly move an MEU. You can't quietly move a carrier group.
For a large scale war it's likely they would have a carrier group. For smaller situations they very well may not.
I actually think the only other reddit I have been on is the naked user-submitted pics reddit because people said what the name of it was and I was like I LIKE NAKED PEOPLE
that one is confusing because sometimes you click and it takes you to imgur and sometimes it doesn't
idk I am too old for this newfangled technology
i am a p savvy reddit user but i am exactly this way about twitter
I actually think the only other reddit I have been on is the naked user-submitted pics reddit because people said what the name of it was and I was like I LIKE NAKED PEOPLE
that one is confusing because sometimes you click and it takes you to imgur and sometimes it doesn't
idk I am too old for this newfangled technology
i am a p savvy reddit user but i am exactly this way about twitter
i just don't understand..
every time I go to sxsw I am like, I will start a twitter and do it right this time
and every time, I tweet once and then it languishes until the following year
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
hmm... $2.49 to upgrade to shadowrun deluxe just to get the soundtrack seems p alright
As a rule I don't judge anyone for what they like, I judge them for how they act.
I'd say judging someone for the reasons why they like something is probably fair game though.
Only if it has a negative influence on their behavior.
Well I mean, if someone like Tom Kratman's books because they agree with the way he depicts the world
I think you can probably say that they are a terrible person.
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I actually think the only other reddit I have been on is the naked user-submitted pics reddit because people said what the name of it was and I was like I LIKE NAKED PEOPLE
that one is confusing because sometimes you click and it takes you to imgur and sometimes it doesn't
idk I am too old for this newfangled technology
i am a p savvy reddit user but i am exactly this way about twitter
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
@Thomamelas was talking about Sprey earlier. I guess he has a bit of an axe to grind, but it's not like I have a hard time believing that there is probably something insane/retarded/deeply fishy about a "do-everything" plane that costs $200m a pop
-snip-
Might I ask your opinion on the F-35/SB?
I assume you mean the F-35B variant? I think it's kind of a goofy design but most STOVL designs are. I think the Marines have a compelling argument for why a force focused on amphibious invasions needs something goofy. They need the ability to support an invasion force that may or may not have access to an airfield. And they may not have support from a carrier. So organic air makes sense and you're talking about specialized needs. Personally I think it should have been a separate design, and that the Harrier needs replacing. I suspect it's replacement will be a STOVL aircraft but one designed from the ground up as one without comprises.
I think it's the worst of the F-35 variants but that it's better then trying to maintain the Harrier. And in a CAS role, the stealth will be pretty important for protection against MANPADs.
Nooope. SB.
Things start to go SB by page two, and it just escalates from there.
But yeah Marines you do not need your own jet.
Forgive me but it's been a long day and I really don't have any interest in trying to read through a forum thread to try to puzzle out what you mean. But I disagree about the idea of the Marines not needing their own aircraft. They've got a weird niche role and it's one that requires air support. And they can't count on the Navy to have a carrier near by all of the time. Shifting a carrier group isn't trivial and you don't do it quickly. So the Marines need a degree of organic air support that doesn't need a proper airfield or can work off a helicopter carrier.
...I find this argument uncompelling. These services aren't out picking and choosing their own missions - they're supposed to operate as combined force, that's been the goal and objective of pretty much all modern military thinking.
I'm struggling to think of a situation where you'd be invading something with the marines, and for some reason not be tasking a carrier group to support the effort - especially since in an actual large scale conflict, anyone who's killing carrier groups is going to have no trouble killing makeshift short runways in the middle of wherever the hell.
A couple of situations spring to mind. Situations where rapid response is critical. We keep Marine expeditionary units forward deployed so they can be somewhere in 24 to 48 hours. The hypothetical battle plan for Grenada called for this. They went a different way but the idea is for somethings like a large scale hostage situation or a situation where you need to protect/evacuate aid workers you may need to have Marines in place as quickly as possible. Another scenario is the island hopping in WWII. Marines often made invasions unsupported by carriers. There are a finite amount of carriers but lots of places to invade. Another situation is misdirection. You can quietly move an MEU. You can't quietly move a carrier group.
For a large scale war it's likely they would have a carrier group. For smaller situations they very well may not.
I sort of think multiple small geographically diverse conflicts are probably a bit more likely than something large against an equivetech nation.
They moistly come out at night, moistly.
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ThomamelasOnly one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered Userregular
Also, I love the fact that there was already a hypothetical plan to invade Grenada just sitting there in a binder before anyone started pondering an actual invasion.
I actually think the only other reddit I have been on is the naked user-submitted pics reddit because people said what the name of it was and I was like I LIKE NAKED PEOPLE
that one is confusing because sometimes you click and it takes you to imgur and sometimes it doesn't
idk I am too old for this newfangled technology
i am a p savvy reddit user but i am exactly this way about twitter
i just don't understand..
every time I go to sxsw I am like, I will start a twitter and do it right this time
and every time, I tweet once and then it languishes until the following year
the problem i have with using twitter is not having any desire to cast my pithy comments into a void and wait for someone to repeat them
Thomamelas was talking about Sprey earlier. I guess he has a bit of an axe to grind, but it's not like I have a hard time believing that there is probably something insane/retarded/deeply fishy about a "do-everything" plane that costs $200m a pop
-snip-
Might I ask your opinion on the F-35/SB?
I assume you mean the F-35B variant? I think it's kind of a goofy design but most STOVL designs are. I think the Marines have a compelling argument for why a force focused on amphibious invasions needs something goofy. They need the ability to support an invasion force that may or may not have access to an airfield. And they may not have support from a carrier. So organic air makes sense and you're talking about specialized needs. Personally I think it should have been a separate design, and that the Harrier needs replacing. I suspect it's replacement will be a STOVL aircraft but one designed from the ground up as one without comprises.
I think it's the worst of the F-35 variants but that it's better then trying to maintain the Harrier. And in a CAS role, the stealth will be pretty important for protection against MANPADs.
Nooope. SB.
Things start to go SB by page two, and it just escalates from there.
But yeah Marines you do not need your own jet.
Forgive me but it's been a long day and I really don't have any interest in trying to read through a forum thread to try to puzzle out what you mean. But I disagree about the idea of the Marines not needing their own aircraft. They've got a weird niche role and it's one that requires air support. And they can't count on the Navy to have a carrier near by all of the time. Shifting a carrier group isn't trivial and you don't do it quickly. So the Marines need a degree of organic air support that doesn't need a proper airfield or can work off a helicopter carrier.
...I find this argument uncompelling. These services aren't out picking and choosing their own missions - they're supposed to operate as combined force, that's been the goal and objective of pretty much all modern military thinking.
I'm struggling to think of a situation where you'd be invading something with the marines, and for some reason not be tasking a carrier group to support the effort - especially since in an actual large scale conflict, anyone who's killing carrier groups is going to have no trouble killing makeshift short runways in the middle of wherever the hell.
A couple of situations spring to mind. Situations where rapid response is critical. We keep Marine expeditionary units forward deployed so they can be somewhere in 24 to 48 hours. The hypothetical battle plan for Grenada called for this. They went a different way but the idea is for somethings like a large scale hostage situation or a situation where you need to protect/evacuate aid workers you may need to have Marines in place as quickly as possible. Another scenario is the island hopping in WWII. Marines often made invasions unsupported by carriers. There are a finite amount of carriers but lots of places to invade. Another situation is misdirection. You can quietly move an MEU. You can't quietly move a carrier group.
For a large scale war it's likely they would have a carrier group. For smaller situations they very well may not.
I sort of think multiple small geographically diverse conflicts are probably a bit more likely than something large against an equivetech nation.
Also a possible scenario.
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
cause i mean
i can do that here
Allegedly a voice of reason.
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I actually think the only other reddit I have been on is the naked user-submitted pics reddit because people said what the name of it was and I was like I LIKE NAKED PEOPLE
that one is confusing because sometimes you click and it takes you to imgur and sometimes it doesn't
idk I am too old for this newfangled technology
i am a p savvy reddit user but i am exactly this way about twitter
i just don't understand..
every time I go to sxsw I am like, I will start a twitter and do it right this time
and every time, I tweet once and then it languishes until the following year
the problem i have with using twitter is not having any desire to cast my pithy comments into a void and wait for someone to repeat them
it seems like a lot of people use twitter in the same way they use tumblr: not as content creators but as curated zones for the stuff they like or find important
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
I actually think the only other reddit I have been on is the naked user-submitted pics reddit because people said what the name of it was and I was like I LIKE NAKED PEOPLE
that one is confusing because sometimes you click and it takes you to imgur and sometimes it doesn't
idk I am too old for this newfangled technology
i am a p savvy reddit user but i am exactly this way about twitter
i just don't understand..
every time I go to sxsw I am like, I will start a twitter and do it right this time
and every time, I tweet once and then it languishes until the following year
the problem i have with using twitter is not having any desire to cast my pithy comments into a void and wait for someone to repeat them
it seems like a lot of people use twitter in the same way they use tumblr: not as content creators but as curated zones for the stuff they like or find important
like their own thoughts
i'm not really this cynical about it, i just don't really use it for anything other than a news feed
As a rule I don't judge anyone for what they like, I judge them for how they act.
I'd say judging someone for the reasons why they like something is probably fair game though.
Only if it has a negative influence on their behavior.
Well I mean, if someone like Tom Kratman's books because they agree with the way he depicts the world
I think you can probably say that they are a terrible person.
I don't really believe in terrible people, just ignorant ones and tragic ones.
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But I find the culture abrasive and overflowing with 18-25 year old nerdy maleness.
A couple of situations spring to mind. Situations where rapid response is critical. We keep Marine expeditionary units forward deployed so they can be somewhere in 24 to 48 hours. The hypothetical battle plan for Grenada called for this. They went a different way but the idea is for somethings like a large scale hostage situation or a situation where you need to protect/evacuate aid workers you may need to have Marines in place as quickly as possible. Another scenario is the island hopping in WWII. Marines often made invasions unsupported by carriers. There are a finite amount of carriers but lots of places to invade. Another situation is misdirection. You can quietly move an MEU. You can't quietly move a carrier group.
For a large scale war it's likely they would have a carrier group. For smaller situations they very well may not.
i am a p savvy reddit user but i am exactly this way about twitter
i just don't understand..
I am pretty sure even Jesus said the same thing.
Just had tapas with the missus and we're going home to bake a pie. This Friday night is off da ccchhhhaaaiiiinnnn
*acts out Waiting for Godot*
every time I go to sxsw I am like, I will start a twitter and do it right this time
and every time, I tweet once and then it languishes until the following year
i enjoy that soundtrack
Doo eeeeet
conflict of interest conflict of interest
Only if it has a negative influence on their behavior.
You can always trust Neco.
Now, me? Nah. I'll always be pimpin' Radioshack.
UMM EXCUSE ME
THIS AVATAR IS FROM SHADOWRUN: DRAGONFALL, THE EXPANSION.
AND ALSO, YES, YOU SHOULD TRUST ME.
(Actually, don't...I hate suggesting games to people because if they end up hating it, then I feel awful...)
i judge them for accidents of genetics they have no control over
i love suggesting games to people because i have literally perfect taste and if somebody doesnt like a game i suggest they are literally a pheasant
I think you can probably say that they are a terrible person.
It is so weird
(Contains like, 3 frames of non-sexy butts, so possibly nsfw)
I sort of think multiple small geographically diverse conflicts are probably a bit more likely than something large against an equivetech nation.
Assuming they're not being paid off, doesn't that just mean they like it?
Or should one only take purchasing advice from people who dislike the item in question?
@Dynagrip
i will if others do, but i have not yet
speak soon, tho, as the sale....draws to an end
On the black screen
Should I reinstall Bayonetta while I wait to find my next job to buy Revengeance?
the problem i have with using twitter is not having any desire to cast my pithy comments into a void and wait for someone to repeat them
he tells me to buy platinum games and i ignore him. its a wonderful system we have.
Also a possible scenario.
i can do that here
y
FINALLY A REASONABLY SIZED CHAIR
it seems like a lot of people use twitter in the same way they use tumblr: not as content creators but as curated zones for the stuff they like or find important
like their own thoughts
i'm not really this cynical about it, i just don't really use it for anything other than a news feed
I don't really believe in terrible people, just ignorant ones and tragic ones.