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A Simpsons Marathon is on right now, Let's discuss the show's downfall.

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Heard about this on conservative radio:Registered User regular
    If you find the first bad episode of the Simpsons after the show became popular (let's say season 3), then you can probably find when the dip in show's overall quality began, too.

    The first really bad episode of the Simpsons was season 11's Saddlesore Galactica, an episode about a racing horse with attitude and a conspiracy involving elves. That was the beginning of the end.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    The episode I remember thinking "Huh..that was really bad" was when they go to England and shoe horn just any random cameo.

    I think it even had a cameo from fucking Joe Millionaire.

  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    emnmnme wrote: »
    If you find the first bad episode of the Simpsons after the show became popular (let's say season 3), then you can probably find when the dip in show's overall quality began, too.

    The first really bad episode of the Simpsons was season 11's Saddlesore Galactica, an episode about a racing horse with attitude and a conspiracy involving elves. That was the beginning of the end.

    Everyone hates that episode. While I agree things had started declining by that point that episode is apocalyptically bad. You'd be hard-pressed to find episodes that are worse.

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  • flamebroiledchickenflamebroiledchicken Registered User regular
    emnmnme wrote: »
    If you find the first bad episode of the Simpsons after the show became popular (let's say season 3), then you can probably find when the dip in show's overall quality began, too.

    The first really bad episode of the Simpsons was season 11's Saddlesore Galactica, an episode about a racing horse with attitude and a conspiracy involving elves. That was the beginning of the end.

    I'd say the first "really bad" episode was the one where Principal Skinner turned out to be an impostor. I think it was Season 8 or 9. I'm pretty sure some of the writers from that time have said that they really regret that episode.

    Al Jean has been the principal showrunner since Season 13. I blame the downhill turn on him.

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  • I ZimbraI Zimbra Registered User regular
    I would contend that Season 8 is the best season of any comedy show. It is all killer, no filler, and "Homer's Enemy" is the best episode of the series.

    I'd say season 9 is when the quality started to decline, as it starts with the duds "City of New York vs Homer Simpson" and "Principal & The Pauper."

  • NaphtaliNaphtali Null Registered User regular
    edited August 2014
    Kyougu wrote: »
    Yep, Simpsons World is going to have every single episode available for streaming.

    You'll have to be a subscriber to FXX though.

    Fuck

    To get that channel I think is like another $20 a month on my already stupid comcast bill, I think...

    Oh well, maybe I'll just splurge and buy seasons 2 & 4-8 on dvd. Already have 3. Amazon wins

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth veni, veneri, vamoosi Registered User regular
    "Taramoor wrote: »
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    Charles Montgomery Burns and Waylon Smithers. Mr. Burns is Homer's boss, he owns the nuclear plant and is of indeterminate age. He is modeled after Charles Foster Kane of Citizen Kane fame. Waylon Smithers is his assistant and wants to make sweet crazy love to those crisp aging bones.

    Other characters of importance:
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    Pro Into the Woods reference.
    Also I used to have a shirt with that image on it. Or probably an older version of that image since it was the cast from when I was in high school, like, 15 years ago.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    'Have The Rolling Stones killed' is the most incredibly perfect response to The Ramones performance in the world.

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  • GlyphGryphGlyphGryph Registered User regular
    Taramoor wrote: »
    I would like to remind everyone that the odds of there ever being another show where you can say "It got good again around season 20" are virtually zero.

    Doctor Who got got again around season 27 or 28. So not the only one, so the odds probably aren't zero. South Park might well manage it too!

  • Captain TragedyCaptain Tragedy Registered User regular
    edited August 2014
    Xaquin wrote: »
    'Have The Rolling Stones killed' is the most incredibly perfect response to The Ramones performance in the world.

    Though it now has a slightly sad ironic tinge, seeing as how now every original Ramone is dead, yet every Rolling Stone except for the one who drowned in his 20s is still alive.

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  • TaramoorTaramoor Registered User regular
    GlyphGryph wrote: »
    Taramoor wrote: »
    I would like to remind everyone that the odds of there ever being another show where you can say "It got good again around season 20" are virtually zero.

    Doctor Who got got again around season 27 or 28. So not the only one, so the odds probably aren't zero. South Park might well manage it too!

    I did not know there was that much Doctor Who. That's a lot of Doctor Who.

    It will be interesting to see if South Park can maintain for that long.

  • GlyphGryphGlyphGryph Registered User regular
    edited August 2014
    Taramoor wrote: »
    I did not know there was that much Doctor Who. That's a lot of Doctor Who.
    They actually felt the numbers were getting too high and starting the counting over, so they are currently running Season 8, which is the 34th Season of the show.

    Southpark is up to Season 18, so they've only got a bit further to go.

    It's really impressive when a show manages to last that long and still turn out good seasons though

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth veni, veneri, vamoosi Registered User regular
    Also when I was in middleschool and highschool, our local WB affiliate would have The Simpsons on at 5:00 and 6:00, and I think maybe 10:00 (or maybe that was another episod of Friends, one of them was 3 times a day)
    I would try and catch them all. It was one of the few things my sister and I did together.
    Our French teacher in highschool loved The Simpsons. Every Monday when I came in to class I was greeted with " 'Allo Daveed! Deed you watch ze Seempsons last night? Eet was so good!"

    I heard a story on NPR several months ago about a play a company was doing that takes place in a post-apocalypitc USA.
    The first act is survivors of it shortly afterwards recounting their favorite Simpsons episode (Bart goes into witness protection) around a fire for entertainment.
    The second act is a few years later, where they are a traveling troupe going around putting it on as a play to entertain those rebuilding society.
    Third act is many decades later where their descendants are reenacting it, only now it is myth that is tied into the story of the apocalypse.
    It sounded pretty interesting.

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited August 2014
    Taramoor wrote: »
    GlyphGryph wrote: »
    Taramoor wrote: »
    I would like to remind everyone that the odds of there ever being another show where you can say "It got good again around season 20" are virtually zero.

    Doctor Who got got again around season 27 or 28. So not the only one, so the odds probably aren't zero. South Park might well manage it too!

    I did not know there was that much Doctor Who. That's a lot of Doctor Who.

    It will be interesting to see if South Park can maintain for that long.

    Dr Who is arguably disqualified as there was a huge years long 16 year break in production. While it wasn't exactly rebooted it didn't build up the old ties very much until the new series had been going for awhile.

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  • GONG-00GONG-00 Registered User regular
    Our French teacher in highschool loved The Simpsons. Every Monday when I came in to class I was greeted with " 'Allo Daveed! Deed you watch ze Seempsons last night? Eet was so good!"

    Please tell me that you said the following (in your best terrible Scottish accent) to that same teacher:

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth veni, veneri, vamoosi Registered User regular
    GONG-00 wrote: »
    Our French teacher in highschool loved The Simpsons. Every Monday when I came in to class I was greeted with " 'Allo Daveed! Deed you watch ze Seempsons last night? Eet was so good!"

    Please tell me that you said the following (in your best terrible Scottish accent) to that same teacher:

    I did not. She did let us watch the episode where Bart went to France once instead of our usual biweekly French film.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak Way up inside your butthole, Morty. WAAAAY up inside there.Registered User regular
    zagdrob wrote: »
    Best Simpsons episodes ever were the Monorail episode and Homer in Space.

    De-fault De-fault De-fault.

    Homer in Space has one of my favorite visual jokes of all time, when Barney plummets out of the sky from the jetpack, lands on the hard roof of a Pillow Factory, lands on the street, and is run over by a Marshmallow truck.

    Also, "I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords."

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited August 2014
    I Zimbra wrote: »
    I would contend that Season 8 is the best season of any comedy show. It is all killer, no filler, and "Homer's Enemy" is the best episode of the series.

    I'd say season 9 is when the quality started to decline, as it starts with the duds "City of New York vs Homer Simpson" and "Principal & The Pauper."

    Maybe this is because I'm from New York, but I love, love, love "City of New York vs Homer Simpson." When he tells that construction guy he's fired so he can steal his jackhammer, I always lose it.
    Taramoor wrote: »
    GlyphGryph wrote: »
    Taramoor wrote: »
    I would like to remind everyone that the odds of there ever being another show where you can say "It got good again around season 20" are virtually zero.

    Doctor Who got got again around season 27 or 28. So not the only one, so the odds probably aren't zero. South Park might well manage it too!

    I did not know there was that much Doctor Who. That's a lot of Doctor Who.

    It will be interesting to see if South Park can maintain for that long.

    The last season of South Park was fantastic, so they don't even need to make it to 20 to get good again.

    My personal favorite episode is "You Only Move Twice." Hank Scorpio is just that fantastic.


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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    emnmnme wrote: »
    If you find the first bad episode of the Simpsons after the show became popular (let's say season 3), then you can probably find when the dip in show's overall quality began, too.

    The first really bad episode of the Simpsons was season 11's Saddlesore Galactica, an episode about a racing horse with attitude and a conspiracy involving elves. That was the beginning of the end.

    I'd say the first "really bad" episode was the one where Principal Skinner turned out to be an impostor. I think it was Season 8 or 9. I'm pretty sure some of the writers from that time have said that they really regret that episode.

    Al Jean has been the principal showrunner since Season 13. I blame the downhill turn on him.

    Haha what? That episode is pitch perfect commentary on the absurd lengths shows go to preserve status quo


    And the writer to this day will fight you over it

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    Camp Krusty is one of my favorites and it has some great lines.

    Lisa: "I feel like I'm gonna die, Bart."
    Bart: "We're all gonna die, Lis'."
    Lisa: "I meant soon."
    Bart: "So did I."

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Kyougu wrote: »
    Camp Krusty is one of my favorites and it has some great lines.

    Lisa: "I feel like I'm gonna die, Bart."
    Bart: "We're all gonna die, Lis'."
    Lisa: "I meant soon."
    Bart: "So did I."

    Bart: This camp was a nightmare. They fed us gruel, forced us to make wallets for export and one of the campers was eaten by a bear!

    Krusty the Clown: Oh, my god!

    Bart: Actually, the bear just ate his hat.

    Krusty the Clown: Was it a nice hat?

    Bart: Oh yeah.

    Krusty the Clown: Oh, my god!

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    I Zimbra wrote: »
    I would contend that Season 8 is the best season of any comedy show. It is all killer, no filler, and "Homer's Enemy" is the best episode of the series.

    I'd say season 9 is when the quality started to decline, as it starts with the duds "City of New York vs Homer Simpson" and "Principal & The Pauper."

    Maybe this is because I'm from New York, but I love, love, love "City of New York vs Homer Simpson." When he tells that construction guy he's fired so he can steal his jackhammer, I always lose it.
    Taramoor wrote: »
    GlyphGryph wrote: »
    Taramoor wrote: »
    I would like to remind everyone that the odds of there ever being another show where you can say "It got good again around season 20" are virtually zero.

    Doctor Who got got again around season 27 or 28. So not the only one, so the odds probably aren't zero. South Park might well manage it too!

    I did not know there was that much Doctor Who. That's a lot of Doctor Who.

    It will be interesting to see if South Park can maintain for that long.

    The last season of South Park was fantastic, so they don't even need to make it to 20 to get good again.

    My personal favorite episode is "You Only Move Twice." Hank Scorpio is just that fantastic.


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  • mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    edited August 2014
    Finally a thread in my wheel house.

    the two aforementioned season 9 eps are great- weaker than 8 but greats. in no way bad.

    "Sunday, Cruddy Sunday" is where it goes sideways for me. Its not great- season 10 finished with some absolute classics.... then 11 gets a few duds.... then your get into dud to good one ratios. Saddlesore for sure isn't great.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak Way up inside your butthole, Morty. WAAAAY up inside there.Registered User regular
    I think I lost patience with the Simpsons when it started to seem like every episode was a meandering collection of plots/jokes without much relation to each other, with some flimsy excuse for whatever celebrity cameo they had that week.

    I've seen some good stuff since (I remember another Albert Brooks character that made me laugh a lot), but stuff like the tennis episode (cameos: Pete Sampras, Andre Agassi, Williams sisters) or the one where Homer becomes friends with Alec Baldwin, Kim Bassinger, and Ron Howard were just not anywhere near as funny as most of the tighter episodes with actual plot. And it just sort of continued along those same lines.

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  • RocketSauceRocketSauce Registered User regular
    edited August 2014
    I can still remember watching the first episode when it aired, and it was a harbinger of doom for our nation's children if they got ahold of it. Kids talking back to adults, telling them to eat my shorts, etc. I can also remember my mom sitting me down to have this weird talk with me about how she didn't want me watching it, but would leave it up to me.

    I think Three Men and a Comic Book still stands as my all time favorite episode.

    I also think I still have the original issues of the Simpsons comics somewhere around here.

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    Yeah, that's about where and how I lost interest too. Going from celebrities playing a character to just playing themselves, with the only joke being "I'm celebrity X!". The best "celebrity for celebrity sake" was the godly Leonard Nimoy cameo in the monorail ep.

    That all being said, I did get a kick out of the Lucy Lawless cameo, when at the end she just flies away.

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    "I told you, I'm not Xena, I'm Lucy Lawless."

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  • SyphonBlueSyphonBlue Registered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    I Zimbra wrote: »
    I would contend that Season 8 is the best season of any comedy show. It is all killer, no filler, and "Homer's Enemy" is the best episode of the series.

    I'd say season 9 is when the quality started to decline, as it starts with the duds "City of New York vs Homer Simpson" and "Principal & The Pauper."

    Maybe this is because I'm from New York, but I love, love, love "City of New York vs Homer Simpson." When he tells that construction guy he's fired so he can steal his jackhammer, I always lose it.
    Taramoor wrote: »
    GlyphGryph wrote: »
    Taramoor wrote: »
    I would like to remind everyone that the odds of there ever being another show where you can say "It got good again around season 20" are virtually zero.

    Doctor Who got got again around season 27 or 28. So not the only one, so the odds probably aren't zero. South Park might well manage it too!

    I did not know there was that much Doctor Who. That's a lot of Doctor Who.

    It will be interesting to see if South Park can maintain for that long.

    The last season of South Park was fantastic, so they don't even need to make it to 20 to get good again.

    My personal favorite episode is "You Only Move Twice." Hank Scorpio is just that fantastic.


    Oh, the Hammock District

    Here have some sugar. Sorry it's not in packets.

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    The Computer Wore Menace Shoes was one of my later day favs

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    Where Homer becomes an outline journalist writing nonsense and gets abducted into a terrible Prisoner parody

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  • mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    edited August 2014
    Yeah, that's about where and how I lost interest too. Going from celebrities playing a character to just playing themselves, with the only joke being "I'm celebrity X!". The best "celebrity for celebrity sake" was the godly Leonard Nimoy cameo in the monorail ep.

    That all being said, I did get a kick out of the Lucy Lawless cameo, when at the end she just flies away.

    "Wait, Xena can't fly!"
    "I told you, I'm not Xena, I'm Lucy Lawless."

    A magnet holds lucy lawless captive...
    "(struggling) Must.... take off... metal breast plate"
    Con nerds all raise thier cameras in preperation....
    "..... maybe later"

    And yes- celebs who play themselves. "The simpson are going to X". Used to be a funny joke.

    Tom Arnold did play himself in that episode where they shot all the idiots into the sun. good for him.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    All this hacking is making me thirsty.

    Think I'll have a tab.

  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    Man, I love the Adam Baldwin episode.

    "You killed Ron Howard!"

    "Ohhh....Royal Crown cola!"

  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    All this hacking is making me thirsty.

    Think I'll have a tab.

    You have selected..Regicide. If you know the name of king or queen being murdered press 1 now

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  • GONG-00GONG-00 Registered User regular
    SyphonBlue wrote: »
    Xaquin wrote: »
    I Zimbra wrote: »
    I would contend that Season 8 is the best season of any comedy show. It is all killer, no filler, and "Homer's Enemy" is the best episode of the series.

    I'd say season 9 is when the quality started to decline, as it starts with the duds "City of New York vs Homer Simpson" and "Principal & The Pauper."

    Maybe this is because I'm from New York, but I love, love, love "City of New York vs Homer Simpson." When he tells that construction guy he's fired so he can steal his jackhammer, I always lose it.
    Taramoor wrote: »
    GlyphGryph wrote: »
    Taramoor wrote: »
    I would like to remind everyone that the odds of there ever being another show where you can say "It got good again around season 20" are virtually zero.

    Doctor Who got got again around season 27 or 28. So not the only one, so the odds probably aren't zero. South Park might well manage it too!

    I did not know there was that much Doctor Who. That's a lot of Doctor Who.

    It will be interesting to see if South Park can maintain for that long.

    The last season of South Park was fantastic, so they don't even need to make it to 20 to get good again.

    My personal favorite episode is "You Only Move Twice." Hank Scorpio is just that fantastic.


    Oh, the Hammock District

    Here have some sugar. Sorry it's not in packets.

    Want some cream?

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  • SyphonBlueSyphonBlue Registered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    All this hacking is making me thirsty.

    Think I'll have a tab.

    Oh come on, do the whole quote!

    Press any key to continue. I see esc, kitarl, and pigup...I don't see any any key! Phew, all this computer hacking is making me thirsy, I think I'll order a tab. *hits Tab* Up, no time for that, my computer is starting up!

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  • mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    edited August 2014
    The Computer Wore Menace Shoes was one of my later day favs

    simpsons.jpg


    Where Homer becomes an outline journalist writing nonsense and gets abducted into a terrible Prisoner parody

    Leader: As far as your family knows, Homer Simpson is walking in the front door right about now.
    Homer: (Taking his face out of ice cream with needles sticking out) I'm sorry, what?
    (Next scene at the Simpson house)
    Marge: Homie!
    Fake Homer: (Speaking with a German accent) Marge, honey, Fraulein, I'm home!
    Marge: You're not my husband!
    Fake Homer: Ja, please forgive my unexplained two week absence. To make it up to you we will go out to dinner at a sensibly-priced restaurant, then have a night of efficient German sex.
    Marge: Well, I sure don't feel like cooking.

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  • mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    edited August 2014
    tht was the one with thrill-house. :D

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited August 2014


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  • TexiKenTexiKen that boy can sing! Jackson HeightsRegistered User regular
    That tennis episode was the one that really made me go what the fuck and realize I don't have to watch the show on a live basis.. Not only was the animation really bad (might have been the start of some kind of new digital stuff but the eyes looked so weird that episode), but the jokes were bad (they go from Grandpa's talent show to a tennis court) and everyone used tennis racquets that were 30 years old. NO ONE PLAYS WITH WOOD ANYMORE. And the cameos were ridiculous. You have four of the best players ever just say one line and that's it? Get over yourself.

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  • QuidQuid I don't... what... hnnng Registered User regular
    I caught an episode recently and it honestly wasn't bad at all.

    Though that said I have so much available that current Simpsons just doesn't come close to being good enough.

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