METAL... GEAR?!

Speed Racer

What the hell is Metal Gear

Metal Gear is a series of video games made by Hideo Kojima, a man who makes weird tweets

https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/503190527865401345

The series invented the stealth genre, and has improved upon it constantly, as well as weaving one of the single greatest narratives in all of video games over the course of the 10 canonical games that have been released to date.

What? No. Metal Gear is a bunch of dumb anime bullshit.

Wrongoooooo. The Metal Gear Solid series of games has been incredibly innotative and important in the sphere of interactive narrative, and you can see its influence in games ranging from Spec Ops: The Line to Device 6 to The Stanley Parable. In particular, Metal Gear Solid 2 was one of the single most ambitious and well-executed interactive narratives ever, and it's only been in recent years that game designers have managed to surpass it in narrative quality.

Yeah okay whatever you're dumb. Anyway I ain't got time to play all these dumb bullshit games they're like 20 hours of cutscenes.

Then let's just summarize them all right here!

METAL GEAR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh8Odw3wQbE

Released in 1987 for the... MSX? Metal Gear invented the stealth genre. The game is fairly crude by modern standards, but it still has some interesting elements to it, and you can see the beginning of Kojima's quirky unique style starting to form here. The game got ported to the NES.
PLOT SUMMARY

Outer Heaven, a small fortress compound in northern South Africa, has declared sovereignty and is threatening the world with a nuclear weapon. The fortress-nation is supposedly lead by the greatest mercenary to ever live, though his identity is a secret. The United States government assigns the black ops unit FOXHOUND to rescue the hostages that Outer Heaven has taken and neutralize the nuclear threat. FOXHOUND commander assigns their top agent, Gray Fox, to the job. Gray Fox is captured, and the last transmission he manages to send are the words "Metal Gear."

With no other options, Big Boss is forced to send in rookie FOXHOUND member Solid Snake to rescue Gray Fox and complete the mission. Snake takes out the lieutenants of Outer Heaven, including Shotgunner and the Machine Gun Kid, before learning Outer Heaven's darkest secret: Big Boss, his commander, is the legendary mercenary in command of the facility. He has built an experimental superweapon called Metal Gear, which is capable of launching a nuclear warhead from any point on the earth. Snake manages to destroy Metal Gear before it becomes fully operational, and kills his commanding officer and mentor while escaping the blast radius of Metal Gear's self-destruct sequence.

SNAKE'S REVENGE


In the wake of Metal Gear's success, Konami created a sequel for the NES, called Snake's Revenge. Kojima wasn't involved in the game at all, and as a result, it's generally looked down upon. Even though the story isn't canon, it does play an important role in the Metal Gear saga: it inspired Kojima to make a true sequel to his original game. Who knows, there might have never been a Metal Gear Solid if not for Snake's Revenge.

METAL GEAR 2: SOLID SNAKE


A real-ass sequel to Metal Gear, MG2:SS added a ton of new features, as well as a much more in-depth story. It's Kojima's first real attempt at telling an actual story, rather than the sparse framing narrative featured in the original Metal Gear.

PLOT SUMMARY

The world has nearly exhausted its supply of oil. A bio-engineer named Dr. Marv has developed a special kind of algae called OILIX that can be used as biofuel, but he's kidnapped by the rogue state of Zanzibarland, who plans to use him to hold the world hostage. FOXHOUND, now lead by Colonel Roy Campbell, sends in Solid Snake to rescue Dr. Marv and save the world. While there, he learns that the scientist behind Metal Gear, Dr. Madnar, has been kidnapped and forced to create a new model, Metal Gear D. As he progresses through his mission, he learns that Madnar has in fact willingly defected, along with Snake's former partner Gray Fox. Big Boss survived the Outer Heaven incident, and is leading Zanzibarland. Snake kills his former friend, destroys Metal Gear D, and burns Big Boss to death with a lighter and a can of hairspray. Before dying, Big Boss reveals that he's Snake's father (NOTE: this doesn't actually happen in the game, it was retconned in later)

METAL GEAR SOLID

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NChDfGfeEvI

Now we're getting into the good shit. Metal Gear Solid came out in 1998 on the Playstation, and it was rad as hell. The gameplay's a little weird and awkward, especially from a modern perspective, but the presentation of the game has a cinematic quality that was unparalleled in its time. AN' DON'T GO TALKIN' TO ME ABOUT ANY A THAT FINAL FANTASY SHIT. MGS' cutscenes are all rendered completely in-engine, none a that FMV nonsense here... well okay there's some live action stock footage BUT STILL. The game features a ton of secrets and easter eggs, allows for a crazy amount of player experimentation, and has a delightful fourth-wall-breaking sense of humor. It rules and everyone should play it.

PLOT SUMMARY

After killing his father, his best friend, and saving the world for the second time, Solid Snake took a well-deserved retirement into the Alaskan wilderness, where he became a dog musher. His peace was short-lived however, as he was soon abducted by the military to complete one last job. In his absence, the remaining agents of FOXHOUND have gone rogue. They've taken over the nuclear disposal facility on Shadow Moses Island. Making matters worse, they've teamed up with the Genome Soldiers, a unit of experimental supersoldiers who have had their genes modified to be more biologically similar to Big Boss, the greatest soldier to ever live. They want one million dollars and the remains of Big Boss in twenty four hours, or they're going to launch a nuclear weapon. They've kidnapped the DARPA chief Donald Anderson, along with the president of military contractor ArmsTech, Kenneth Baker. They've also kidnapped Campbell's niece, Meryl Silverburgh, a Genome Soldier who refused to participate in the revolt. Campbell sends in Solid Snake to save the hostages and stop the terrorists from launching a nuclear weapon.

From the very start though, things seem wrong. The leader of the terrorists, Liquid Snake, is nearly identical to Solid Snake, and he seems to be expecting him from the outset. When Snake comes in contact with the hostage, they spontaneously suffer from heart attacks and die. Snake learns from the DARPA chief that Shadow Moses isn't a nuclear disposal facility at all, but a facility owned by ArmsTech to develop a new model of Metal Gear, codenamed REX. Complicating matters even further, a superpowered Cyborg Ninja is running amok through the base, and Snake eventually learns that it's none other than Gray Fox, whose body was recovered from Zanzibarland and reanimated as the Cyborg Ninja. With the help of Meryl and REX's engineer, Dr. Hal Emmerich (or Otacon, as he prefers), Snake progresses through the base, defeating the members of FOXHOUND one by one. Eventually, he comes face to face with Liquid Snake, who finally reveals the truth. Both of them are clones of Big Boss, with Solid Snake receiving all of his valuable soldier genes and Liquid Snake receiving all of the useless traits that their father carried. Making matters worse, Snake has been infected by an artificial disease called FOXDIE, which is designed to target specific individuals, identified by their genetic code. The ArmsTech president, the DARPA chief, FOXHOUND, and Snake himself have all been targeted in the virus' programming. The scientist behind FOXDIE, Naomi Hunter, was the brother of Gray Fox and the adopted daughter of Big Boss, and hates Snake for taking away her family, so she arranged to have him die of the virus once his mission was complete.

Liquid and Solid engage in battle, and thanks to the sacrifices of Gray Fox, Snake manages to destroy REX and escape from Shadow Moses with Meryl. Snake and Naomi reconcile, and she explains that FOXDIE could kill him at any time, but until then, he needs to go out and make the most of his life. The game ends with an ominous phone call between FOXHOUND member Revolver Ocelot and the president of the United States, who's revealed to be a third clone of Big Boss, Solidus Snake. Ocelot had been working for the president the entire time, and had successfully managed to steal the data from Metal Gear REX during the chaos.

METAL GEAR SOLID 2: SONS OF LIBERTY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kZ5TiSl2d8
Oh why hello, greatest video game of all time. This game's major claim to fame is the huge fakeout that Kojima pulled during its release. Prior to the game coming out, all of the promotional media for the game featured Solid Snake, but the player only plays as Snake for the first few hours, and then plays through the main game as new character Raiden. In addition to being a huge improvement over the first MGS in terms of gameplay, MGS2 revolutionized video games as a narrative art form, and one day all you philistines will appreciate what Raiden's naked butt did for all of you.

PLOT SUMMARY

Several years after Metal Gear Solid, shit's sort of gone sideways. The romance between Snake and Meryl has fallen on hard times, and the two have become estranged. Thanks to the data that Ocelot stole and then sold on the black market, every nation and coporation in the world is working on its own model of Metal Gear. To counteract this, Snake and Otacon have formed Philanthropy, an NGO that performs espionage to uncover illegal Metal Gear projects and expose them to the world. The two have received a tip that an oil tanker passing through the Hudson River is hiding a new ambphibious anti-Metal Gear Metal Gear, known as Metal Gear RAY. Snake boards the tanker at the same time as a group of Russian terrorists led by Revolver Ocelot and Colonel Gurlukovich. Ocelot betrays Gurlukovich and steals Metal Gear RAY for his true employers, a group he refers to as The Patriots. He sinks the tanker and kills Snake as he makes his escape.

Two years later, new FOXHOUND recruit Raiden is dispatched at the Big Shell, a water purification plant that was built in the Hudson to clean up the oil spill created by the tanker's destruction. The Gurlukovich mercenaries have surfaced again, now led by a man calling himself Solid Snake, and they've kidnapped the acting president James Johnson. If their demands aren't met, they'll destroy the Big Shell, and the purification chemicals will be released into the water, creating the single biggest ecological disaster in human history. The mercenaries have hired Dead Cell, a group of super soldiers who have gone rogue, to serve as their lieutenants. Also working with the mercenaries are Revolver Ocelot and Olga Gurlukovich, the daughter of the former leader of the group. Together the terrorists call themselves the Sons of Liberty.

Raiden infiltrates the Big Shell and meets up with a Navy SEAL named Iroquois Plisskin. The two of them get to work neutralizing the terrorists' bomb threat, and learn that the terrorists have access to a new and deadly model of Metal Gear. When Metal Gear RAY appears to severely damage the Big Shell, Raiden assumes that's what they mean, but it turns out to not be the case. President Johnson reveals the truth. The United States is ruled by a shadow organization known as The Patriots. The entire Big Shell facility is, in fact, the new Metal Gear, a model known as Arsenal Gear. Arsenal Gear is equipped with a state-of-the-art AI that will monitor, censor, and control all electronic communication the world over, ensuring the Patriots remain in power in perpetuity. The leader of the terrorists, Solidus Snake, used to work for the Patriots, but he's gone rogue to try and save the world from their influence. He has a history with Raiden, who was a child soldier that served under him in the Liberian Civil War. Raiden eventually learns that his entire mission has been a sham, and his commanding officer was nothing more than a construct created by Arsenal Gear's AI. The true purpose of his mission was to provide a stress test for Arsenal Gear's ability to control and manipulate people. Fortunately, Raiden manages to team up with Solid Snake, who'd been disguised as Iroquois Plisskin, and they manage to infect Arsenal Gear with a virus and destroy it. Solidus and Raiden fight atop Freedom Hall as the Patriots taunt the both of them. Raiden emerges victorious, and Otacon begins analyzing data from Arsenal Gear to learn the identity of the Patriots. Just one problem: they all died over 100 years ago.

METAL GEAR SOLID 3: SNAKE EATER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aHQnDTd1y4

Some people think this game is better than Sons of Liberty. They're wrong, but, hey, no one's perfect. Still though, this game's great. It's a prequel to the Metal Gear Saga, and explores the life of a young Big Boss navigating the complicated waters of Cold War espionage. It's pretty fuckin' great, and features one of the single best boss fights in all of bideo games.

PLOT SUMMARY

Naked Snake is the premiere member of a new unit of the CIA known as FOX, an organization that combines espionage with military skills to produce a new type of soldier/spy. His first mission is to invade an area southern Russia and rescue Dr. Sokolov, a rocket scientist who wants to defect to the West. Snake easily dispatches the Ocelot unit assigned to guard Sokolov, but shit goes tits-up when his mentor, The Boss, suddenly appears. She's here to defect to the Soviet Union, and has brought two nuclear warheads as a gift for her new employer, Colonel Volgin. Her former unit from World War II, the COBRAs, have reunited to support her. Sokolov is kidnapped to complete his work on the Shagohod, an experimental new nuclear weapons platform, and The Boss beats Naked Snake within an inch of his life. Volgin decides to fire one of his nukes to destroy Sokolov's research facility, since he intends to use the Shagohod to stage a coup against the Russian government. Snake barely manages to escape with his life.

That's only the start of the trouble though. The Russian government detected FOX's plane in the area, and is convinced that the US deployed the nuclear weapon, and that The Boss is actually a US spy. To prove its innocence, the United States must start a new operation to kill The Boss and stop Colonel Volgin from conquering Russia. And so Snake is sent back into the jungles of southern Russia to complete Operation Snake Eater.

Snake proceeds through the area, picking off the COBRAs one by one with the help of a Soviet agent codenamed EVA. Ultimately, Snake succeeds in destroying the Shagohod, killing Volgin, and in spite of himself, killing The Boss. Snake and EVA spend a sexy sexy night together after the mission is completed, but then Snake wakes up alone, with an audio recording explaining how hard he just got played. The Boss was a US spy, who'd been sent defect to Col. Volgin to steal the Philosopher's Legacy from him. During World War II, the allied superpowers pooled all their resources into one giant pot known as the Philosopher's Legacy, a nearly incalculable amount of money. Volgin's father was the banker in charge of this operation, and ultimately stole the information about the funds and passed it on to his son. When Volgin launched the nuclear weapon, The Boss' mission was called off, and the US government had her killed to prevent World War III. EVA had actually been working for the Chinese government, and in the end was the one to make off with the Legacy... or so she thought. Turns out, Ocelot was yet another CIA agent, and he had stolen the Legacy before EVA ever got the chance. Naked Snake was forced to kill the person he cared about more than anything over nothing more than politics. He's given the title Big Boss for his actions, but the experience ensures that he'll never trust the government again.

METAL GEAR SOLID: PORTABLE OPS


This game's... not very good. It's a PSP game, which, I mean, yeah. Also, Kojima didn't work on it. It's a shame because some important story bits happen in it but it's really pretty skippable.

PLOT SUMMARY

I really don't care enough to explain about Null and Gene and that split personality psychic lady. it's all pretty dumb. Suffice it to say, Ocelot kills the director of the CIA to claim the Philosopher's Legacy for himself, and him and the leader of FOX agree to start The Patriots, and intend to invite Big Boss to join them. Boom done.

METAL GEAR SOLID 4: GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW4zQiyA5vI

This one's a bit of a mixed bag. The graphics are great and the gameplay is top notch, but the level design leaves a lot to be desired. The story is massive and crazy ambitious on both a plot and narrative level, but it buckles under its weight more than a few times. Overall it's still a really excellent game, but it doesn't manage to out-MGS2 MGS2, which it clearly wishes it could. All the same, check it out! The story's loaded with all kinds of bombastic, crazy nonsense, and it's a good time. Also it's the only game to have a fight where you get to pilot a metal gear and fight another metal gear!

PLOT SUMMARY

When Solid Snake was genetically engineered, he was given an artificially shortened lifespan. A few years after MGS2 he's becoming an old man, and will likely die within the year. Meanwhile, the AIs behind the Patriots have mutated, and have established a system of perpetual warfare to fuel the world economy. Revolver Ocelot, who's been possessed by the ghost of Liquid Snake (don't ask), is working to take control of the Patriots' nanomachine network to conquer the earth. Every modern soldier is injected with a nanomachine culture that allows the Patriots to manipulate their emotions and actions, and the techRology is beginning to spread to the private sector as well. Ocelot is careful to avoid violating any laws during his exploits, so Colonel Campbell resorts to the only option left: hire the dying Solid Snake to carry out an assassination contract before Ocelot takes over the world. Snake pursues Ocelot across the globe, learning along the way that his accelerated aging has caused the FOXDIE in his system to mutate, and within six months it will target everyone indiscriminately, annihilating the world population. Snake's mission becomes clear: stop Ocelot, destroy the Patriots, and kill himself before he destroys the human race. With the help of Raiden, Meryl, Otacon, and Naomi, Snake manages to infect Ocelot's systems with an updated version of the virus used to destroy Arsenal Gear. Created by Snake's adopted daughter Sunny, the virus wipes out the Patriots' abilities to control the world, while keeping in tact the valuable services they provide and maintaining global stability. Snake and Ocelot have one final bare-knuckled brawl on top of Ocelot's warship, where the truth finally comes out. Ocelot wasn't possessed by Liquid's ghost (like I said, don't ask). He was only pretending to be to throw off the Patriots. The entire plan was designed from the start to manipulate Snake into doing exactly what he did. They were working together and Snake never even knew it, wow!

In the end, Snake prepares to kill himself, when he's confronted by Big Boss, who never died after all. The last living Patriot, Big Boss explains that Snake was infected with a new strain of FOXDIE, engineered by the Patriot AIs to destroy their human masters. Big Boss intentionally exposes himself to the virus so that he can finally die, and tells Snake that the new strain of the virus is supressing the mutant strain, and he'll be able to live out the remaining year of his life until he dies of natural causes. Snake and Otacon ride off into the sunset, their work at last complete.

METAL GEAR SOLID: PEACE WALKER


This one's a bit divisive. Mechanically, it plays like a beefed up version of Portable Ops, with an added base management system and a bunch of stuff from Monster Hunter. Yeah that's right, Monster Hunter. Why? Fuck you that's why. It's included on the HD rerelease of 2 and 3, so no reason not to give it a shot. Personally I'm not a huge fan but some folks swear by it.

PLOT SUMMARY

We're jumping back into the past with this one. Big Boss has become disillusioned with The Patriots, and has left to form a mercenary group known as Militaires Sans Frontieres with his friend, Kaz Miller. The mercenary group is soon thrown into a tangle of Cold War politics, as the KGB hires them to stop the CIA from destabilizing Central America and using it for their new Peace Walker project. The Peace Walker is an AI-controlled mech that stalks through the jungle, able to launch nuclear warheads with no fear of preemptive strike. Soldiers Without Borders works to stop the CIA, teaming up with local Nicauraguan rebels, along with the Peace Walker engineer, Huey Emmerich. Big Boss is inspired by a young Cuban college student named Paz, who is studying how to create lasting peace without violence or the threat of nuclear war. Big Boss ultimately defeats the CIA, and the Peace Walker AI self-destructs to preserve the safety of the world. MSF decides to use the CIA research materials to build their own Metal Gear, fully equipped with a nuclear warhead stolen from the CIA. Unfortunately, Paz was never an innocent college student. In fact, she's an agent of Cipher, an arm of the Patriots who's been sent to build up the MSF and then seize control of them in the name of the Patriots. She hijacks MSF's Metal Gear, and Big Boss is forced to destroy it, sending her crashing into the sea. In the post-credits stinger we learn that Miller knew all along that Cipher was bankrolling MSF, and was willingly accepting their support.

Speed Racer

METAL GEAR RISING: REVENGEANCE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTQIogLBFBs

Metal Gear Rising was originally intended to fill in a gap in the story between MGS 2 and 4, explaining how Raiden lost his body and became a Cyborg Ninja, and how Sunny came to be adopted by Snake and Otacon. The project had all kinds of trouble, and was eventually handed off to Platinum Games, developers behind the amazing Bayonetta. They took the game in a much different direction, showing what the world had become since the events of MGS4. This game fuckin' rules and even if you don't like Metal Gear it's worth checking out. It's nothing but high-adrenaline nonsense from start to finish.

PLOT SUMMARY

The Patriots are gone, but worldwide war continue to rage on. Raiden has joined a mercenary company devoted to protecting developing nations and maintaining peace in unstable areas, but they're soon assaulted by an enemy mercenary group known as Maverick. Maverick has been hired by a United States senator to destabilize the world, and to that end they've been kidnapping children and turning them into cybernetic soldiers. A former child soldier himself, Raiden is enraged by what Maverick has done, and begins a campaign of revenge(ance) against Maverick to save the world from their nefarious plans. In the end, in spite of his NANOMACHINES, SON, Senator Armstrong loses to Raiden in combat, but his anarchic ideals seem to inspire something in Raiden...

METAL GEAR SOLID V: GROUND ZEROES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oday_Fc-Gc

The newest entry in the Metal Gear franchise, MGSV: Ground Zeroes serves as a prologue chapter to MGSV: The Phantom Pain, releasing early next year. This has by far been the most controversial game Kojima has released, featuring brutal and sickening depictions of torture and sexual assault. MGSV is going to be a much darker chapter in the Metal Gear story than any of the previous titles, but whether it earns that darkness or just exploits it to be edgy remains to be seen. Most people agree, however, that Ground Zeroes wasn't the best foot to start off with. That said, the gameplay is phenomonal, and is the most mechanically sound Metal Gear game to date. If you're okay with the slim amount of content you're getting for thirty bucks and understand what you're getting yourself into with regard to the unsettling elements of the game, it's worth checkin' out. Don't say I didn't warn you though, this shit throws dark.

PLOT SUMMARY

Turns out, Paz survived that boss fight at the end of Peace Walker. It's almost like no one ever fucking dies in this series. Anyway, she's being held at a CIA prison camp in Cuba, which is an obvious stand-in for Guantanamo Bay. Chico, a teenage Nicaraguan rebel who fell in love with her, goes against Big Boss' wishes to try and save her, and ends up captured. Big Boss is deployed at the base to rescue Chico and Paz. Chico to keep him from blabbing about MSF, and Paz to interrogate her about Cipher. The rescue mission coincides with a surprise UN inspection of MSF to ensure they're meeting international law for mercenary groups, so they're working to hide their more deadly weapons, the nuke and Metal Gear among them. Little does Big Boss know, the UN inspection has been staged by XOF, another Patriot organization, led by a mysterious man known only as Skull Face. XOF has been in charge of the Cuban base for several days, and Skull Face has subjected Chico and Paz to a wide array of vicious physical and sexual torture to extract information about MSF and Cipher. Ultimately, he allows Big Boss to rescue both of them, only for him to return to MSF to find the base in flames, being destroyed by XOF. Big Boss realizes that a bomb has been surgically implanted into Paz's body and has to have it surgically removed, but it's too little too late; she had a second bomb that went undetected. She attempts to jump out of their helicopter to save everyone, but the bomb detonates before she can get far enough away, severely wounding Miller and putting Big Boss into a coma.

METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvfQTJscghM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03nUMw7japI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-c1a5c55-8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG_8ZMtQ58Y

MGSV: The Phantom Pain is the newest game in the Metal Gear franchise, rumored to be due out this March. The game is going to represent a pretty major shift in design philosophy, as it's going to focus on open-world gameplay with a more non-linear story. It's also apparently gonna be dark as fuuuuuuuuck. It looks weird and crazy and has very good graphics and it's pretty much either gonna be the best metal gear ever or it's gonna be a gratuitious upsetting mess. Either way, should be fun to watch how it shakes out!

What else is this Kojima fella up to

Recently, a game called P.T. was released for free on the PS4 store. The game's a fucking gorgeous horror title, with some seriously surreal and scary shit in it. By completing an extremely obtuse and complicated puzzle, the game reveals that it's a teaster for the newest entry in the Silent Hill franchise, called Silent Hills. The game will be directed by Hideo Kojima and Guillermo del Toro. If you have a PS4, seriously, go download P.T. and check it out. It's amazing.

I could probably talk for another bajillion years about metal gear but I mean that's what the other 99 pages of this thread is for.

Speed Racer

guys i like metal gear

Mr Fuzzbutt

I have played Metal Gear and about half (I guess) of Metal Gear 2 and Metal Gear Solid.

I played MGS first, and then went back to the originals and the second one especially explains a lot about MGS's gameplay and storytelling.

Radius

I think it would be pretty great if the mods made it so only Speed Racer could post in this thread.

agoaj

Greg Kinnear?

Muggins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3pLDrZQTf8

Speed Racer

Mr Fuzzbutt wrote: »

I have played Metal Gear and about half (I guess) of Metal Gear 2 and Metal Gear Solid.

I played MGS first, and then went back to the originals and the second one especially explains a lot about MGS's gameplay and storytelling.

yeah metal gear games have really weird controls and gameplay because they've basically evolved in a vacuum apart from other games

kojima isn't a gamer and doesn't really know how other action games work, he just does what makes sense to him which isn't anything like how other games behave

ever since mgs4 he's been getting more and more input from western developers who know how modern action games are expected to work so we've seen the series slowly shift into a more conventional control scheme

Speed Racer

Radius wrote: »

I think it would be pretty great if the mods made it so only Speed Racer could post in this thread.

speed racer metal gear supremacy thread let's go

DirtyDirtyVagrant

Finally

I thought I was the only person in the whole world who actually loved MGS2

Speed Racer

DirtyDirtyVagrant wrote: »

Finally

I thought I was the only person in the whole world who actually loved MGS2

congratulations welcome to the good taste club here is your commemorative badge

Bucketman

A Hind D?

DirtyDirtyVagrant

And that part later where you're naked and cold and there's guys with guns and your commander guy is wigging the fuck out and speaking gibberish and his portrait in your satcom thing is overlaid with a skull to various degrees

that was scary as hell

Speed Racer

DirtyDirtyVagrant wrote: »

And that part later where you're naked and cold and there's guys with guns and your commander guy is wigging the fuck out and speaking gibberish and his portrait in your satcom thing is overlaid with a skull to various degrees

that was scary as hell

that whole sequence is amaaaazing

that kind of thing is why i'm super excited that Kojima's working on the new Silent Hill. His sensibilities in a horror setting sounds almost too perfect

miscellaneousinsanity

TEE ELL, DEE ARR

Speed Racer

miscellaneousinsanity wrote: »

TEE ELL, DEE ARR

i typed all of that from memory

Bucketman

I hear it's amazing when the famous giant purple stuffed worm in flapjaw space, with a tuning fork, does a raw blink on Hairi Kairi Rock! I need scissors! 61!

Muggins

I love the original Metal Gear's box art so much because it is so blatantly stolen from uh...was it Terminator?

DirtyDirtyVagrant

I hated what Kojima did to castlevania because I'm a purist

but the only Silent Hill I loved was Silent Hill 3, and not only because the protagonists name is Heather

so I'm pensive but optimistic

Radius

Speed Racer wrote: »

miscellaneousinsanity wrote: »

TEE ELL, DEE ARR

i typed all of that from memory

Even the image urls?

JohnHam

I've only played MGS2 and MGR but I liked them both!

Speed Racer

wait did kojima work on castlevania?

Speed Racer

oh whoa i had no idea lords of shadow was a kojipro joint

miscellaneousinsanity

I don't think kojima was actually all that involved in lords of shadow

Thetheroo

Snake Eater is the best Metal Gear

DirtyDirtyVagrant

Yeah he totally directed Lords of Shadow.

Speed Racer

Radius wrote: »

Speed Racer wrote: »

miscellaneousinsanity wrote: »

TEE ELL, DEE ARR

i typed all of that from memory

Even the image urls?

obviously

nicopernicus

I've only ever played Revengeance. I really dug it. I'm not sure whether I loved the Platinum part or the metal gear part though. If my only Sony platform is a vita, and I also have a 360 what is h my best path to loving Metal Gear? I mean besides watching Drew Scanlon play it? Which is already earning the series a ton of good will in my opinion.

Bucketman

For the record I love Metal Gear

Metal...Gear?

Though I haven't played 4 yet.

miscellaneousinsanity

Like he's got a producer credit but I think that's pretty much just for show, he didn't write or direct it

Speed Racer

Veretas wrote: »

I love the original Metal Gear's box art so much because it is so blatantly stolen from uh...was it Terminator?

shinkawa is an amazing artist

DirtyDirtyVagrant

Oh, I thought he directed it

Speed Racer

nicopernicus wrote: »

I've only ever played Revengeance. I really dug it. I'm not sure whether I loved the Platinum part or the metal gear part though. If my only Sony platform is a vita, and I also have a 360 what is h my best path to loving Metal Gear? I mean besides watching Drew Scanlon play it? Which is already earning the series a ton of good will in my opinion.

If you wanna play MGS1 for yourself, you can get it on the Vita. From there, you can buy the HD collection for 360, which has 2, 3, and Peace Walker. Unfortunately MGS4 is a PS4 exclusive and at this point it's doubtful that'll ever change, beyond maybe getting ported to the PS4 or Xbox One someday maybe

Speed Racer

actually you can get the HD collection on the Vita also

but i'd say go with the 360 version

miscellaneousinsanity

Shinkawa wasn't around for metal gear 1 though, lookit this Michael Biehn-ass motherfucker

Radius

Welp.

Guess it's time to start the MGS3 is the best one campaign.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrsPUoZl-6Q

Speed Racer

Seriously look at what you have to do to solve the final puzzle in P.T.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUTTCfZe8Yc

kojima is a lunatic

Darth_Mogs

MGS2 is the game in the series I have played the most.

Primarily because it was my first dip into the series itself, but also because it was rad as fuck.

Speed Racer

MGS3 has the most fun metal gear story

but MGS2 has the best one

miscellaneousinsanity

anyways metal gear is my favorite vidgame series and you should definitely play all of them

well the good ones at least, you can skip the bad ones

Speed Racer

i gotta get around to playing metal gear 2: solid snake

MG1 had a few bullshit segments but over all it was pretty cool