That seems a bit like the kind of question Jaden Smith would ask on Twitter
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#pipeCocky Stride, Musky odoursPope of Chili TownRegistered Userregular
@Veldrin this is a pretty easy question to answer if you've ever been under general anaesthetic.
There is a snap of time. You're sitting in your hospital room, talking to nurses and maybe family members as the drugs take effect, then it is like blinking your eyes and you wake up in recovery. You do not comprehend the passing of time, it was then and now it is now. It feels instant.
Pretty sure if you lost the entirety of your memory from a period it would seem the same. From your perspective that entire time period would disappear, it would snap from 2010 to now.
I assume you'd perceive them normally in real-time, assuming it's an after-the-fact memory wipe and not something inhibiting the forming of new memories during that five year period.
#pipeCocky Stride, Musky odoursPope of Chili TownRegistered Userregular
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Ok so you're not talking about 5 years of events from the past, you're saying
"your memory doesn't work right now"
It's important to note that short term and long term memory are quite different, and handled by different parts of the brain so it's not very common that both are affected. Also memory doesn't really affect comprehension. Someone can have a profound memory disorder where their short term memory doesn't last longer than 10 seconds (such people actually exist) but you can maintain a conversation with them, they will complete tasks you ask them to, the will answer questions, but after 10 seconds, they won't remember you or anything they've done.
So to answer your question, yes you would see, hear, observe the world as usual, you just wouldn't be able to recall any of it.
Though I guess I'm talking more about how you'd perceive events as they happen in real-time during the 5 years.
I don't... this is someone wiping the memory after the five-year period, yes? They didn't somehow go back in time and alter your perception as the events happened?
If that's the case than the perception in question has already happened, and would have presumably happened as it normally would. It's just that you wouldn't be able to recall it after this memory wipe.
I must be misunderstanding what you're asking, because I can't imagine any alternative way of that happening with the given scenario.
@#pipe I was actually talking about 5 years of previous events yeah, but that's a very interesting concept that you brought up too. Also a little terrifying.
@Veldrin this is a pretty easy question to answer if you've ever been under general anaesthetic.
There is a snap of time. You're sitting in your hospital room, talking to nurses and maybe family members as the drugs take effect, then it is like blinking your eyes and you wake up in recovery. You do not comprehend the passing of time, it was then and now it is now. It feels instant.
Pretty sure if you lost the entirety of your memory from a period it would seem the same. From your perspective that entire time period would disappear, it would snap from 2010 to now.
There's also the people who are awake and feel pain while having surgery done but are given medication that prevents them remembering. From their perspective (afterwards) it is no different to being under.
@Veldrin this is a pretty easy question to answer if you've ever been under general anaesthetic.
There is a snap of time. You're sitting in your hospital room, talking to nurses and maybe family members as the drugs take effect, then it is like blinking your eyes and you wake up in recovery. You do not comprehend the passing of time, it was then and now it is now. It feels instant.
Pretty sure if you lost the entirety of your memory from a period it would seem the same. From your perspective that entire time period would disappear, it would snap from 2010 to now.
When a buddy of mine got his wisdom teeth out, they gave him the anesthesia and told him to count down from 10.
"Ten... nine... eight..." and he passed out.
They did the tooth pulling, and brought him out from under.
"Seven... what happened?"
When you look at the drunk post I made at 3:2x this morning, my memory literally lapses between clauses
So I go from praising Usagi for snack wisdom to Afrocentrism by way of Costco
It turns out short-term memory is necessary for basic function, or you turn into a coordinated stream of conscious instead of remaining as a functional person!
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I remember waking up after my wisdom teeth op and just going "oh shit did I fall asleep sorry about that" and then realising that I wasn't actually in the same room as before
I think it matters how sudden the memory loss was. Like, I'm missing about a year's worth of memories, and it wasn't really like waking up from anesthesia. It was sort of a gradual realization that I have absolutely no memory of that period of time, because my short-term memory was working, but those memories didn't really get saved into long-term. And you don't (or at least, I didn't) notice you've forgotten until you realize that pretty much every time someone asks, "Hey, remember that time...?" the answer is no.
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I remember waking up after my wisdom teeth op and just going "oh shit did I fall asleep sorry about that" and then realising that I wasn't actually in the same room as before
Basically the same thing happened to me. My dad says I walked to the recovery room myself, which I have zero recollection of.
I used to have seizures that affected my memory. And I'd have to say that even though I'd wake up somewhere else and and sometimes not remember chunks of things afterward, there was a definite feeling of time having passed. Like they do in SpongeBob episodes.
...a few hours later...
and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
but they're listening to every word I say
I remember waking up after my wisdom teeth op and just going "oh shit did I fall asleep sorry about that" and then realising that I wasn't actually in the same room as before
Oh
I was awake when they just pulled mine.
But I know what you mean, I've had my gal bladder out and most recently a scope put down my throat and it's super disorienting to wake up from anesthesia.
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#pipeCocky Stride, Musky odoursPope of Chili TownRegistered Userregular
Weirdest thing about blacking out is not being black out but the part after you wake up that you don't remember. It's like you have to wake up twice.
When I was a dumb college kid and smoked weed all the time with my idiot friends
A dude we know was learning Brazilian Ju Jitsu. I asked him to put my in a choke hold because I was curious about what it felt like.
I remember getting it set up, and then fogginess until a little later when I was sitting on the couch.
Apparently I went under for like 3 seconds, then got right up and was determined to drive home right then. I wasn't aggressive, but I was insistent, assuring everyone I was ok and I really just had to get home because I had a spelling test tomorrow and I needed to study. They had to physically stop me from driving because they were smart enough to realize I wasn't all there.
I had no concept of this. They may as well have been making it up.
Apparently I gave up after they wouldn't stop being difficult and sat on the couch to watch cartoons and a few minutes later I came around.
I imagine it would be like childhood memories, you don't remember everything that happened, but you have bits and pieces and a kind of sense of time in between.
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God, my memory is horrible. I can barely remember names and numbers, and even took 4 months to remember my new cell phone number! @Melding can attest to how bad my short and long term memory is. I often am caught telling the same thing twice or completely forgetting conversations we have had, sometimes even ones we have had multiple times.
Strangely though, I have a perfect sense of direction with a photographic memory of how to get there. I will not remember the names of the streets or anything, but if told to go somewhere I have been even just once I can almost always get back to there no matter how far away it is or how long it has been since I went there. Even if I had only been there once as a child I can still find my way back. It's like the only part of my memory I can rely on. Outside of that I have a very hard time.
I remember waking up after my wisdom teeth op and just going "oh shit did I fall asleep sorry about that" and then realising that I wasn't actually in the same room as before
I am having all four out next month and am none too thrilled about it.
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You wouldn't remember seeing anything, you'd have a 5 year gap in your memories?
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Yeah I assume it would be fall asleep on (say) December 31st 2000 and wake up January 1st 2006 from your perspective.
There is a snap of time. You're sitting in your hospital room, talking to nurses and maybe family members as the drugs take effect, then it is like blinking your eyes and you wake up in recovery. You do not comprehend the passing of time, it was then and now it is now. It feels instant.
Pretty sure if you lost the entirety of your memory from a period it would seem the same. From your perspective that entire time period would disappear, it would snap from 2010 to now.
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
Though I guess I'm talking more about how you'd perceive events as they happen in real-time during the 5 years.
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"your memory doesn't work right now"
It's important to note that short term and long term memory are quite different, and handled by different parts of the brain so it's not very common that both are affected. Also memory doesn't really affect comprehension. Someone can have a profound memory disorder where their short term memory doesn't last longer than 10 seconds (such people actually exist) but you can maintain a conversation with them, they will complete tasks you ask them to, the will answer questions, but after 10 seconds, they won't remember you or anything they've done.
So to answer your question, yes you would see, hear, observe the world as usual, you just wouldn't be able to recall any of it.
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
If your memories are being erased after the fact then I guess you'd have perceived them normally, it's like you're deleting a computer file
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I don't... this is someone wiping the memory after the five-year period, yes? They didn't somehow go back in time and alter your perception as the events happened?
If that's the case than the perception in question has already happened, and would have presumably happened as it normally would. It's just that you wouldn't be able to recall it after this memory wipe.
I must be misunderstanding what you're asking, because I can't imagine any alternative way of that happening with the given scenario.
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poof
they're gone. Never happened. No perception of them, period.
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Perception is just such an interesting thing.
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There's also the people who are awake and feel pain while having surgery done but are given medication that prevents them remembering. From their perspective (afterwards) it is no different to being under.
When a buddy of mine got his wisdom teeth out, they gave him the anesthesia and told him to count down from 10.
"Ten... nine... eight..." and he passed out.
They did the tooth pulling, and brought him out from under.
"Seven... what happened?"
You really do just wake up and go "huh"
When you look at the drunk post I made at 3:2x this morning, my memory literally lapses between clauses
So I go from praising Usagi for snack wisdom to Afrocentrism by way of Costco
It turns out short-term memory is necessary for basic function, or you turn into a coordinated stream of conscious instead of remaining as a functional person!
Basically the same thing happened to me. My dad says I walked to the recovery room myself, which I have zero recollection of.
...a few hours later...
but they're listening to every word I say
Oh
I was awake when they just pulled mine.
But I know what you mean, I've had my gal bladder out and most recently a scope put down my throat and it's super disorienting to wake up from anesthesia.
When I was a dumb college kid and smoked weed all the time with my idiot friends
A dude we know was learning Brazilian Ju Jitsu. I asked him to put my in a choke hold because I was curious about what it felt like.
I remember getting it set up, and then fogginess until a little later when I was sitting on the couch.
Apparently I went under for like 3 seconds, then got right up and was determined to drive home right then. I wasn't aggressive, but I was insistent, assuring everyone I was ok and I really just had to get home because I had a spelling test tomorrow and I needed to study. They had to physically stop me from driving because they were smart enough to realize I wasn't all there.
I had no concept of this. They may as well have been making it up.
Apparently I gave up after they wouldn't stop being difficult and sat on the couch to watch cartoons and a few minutes later I came around.
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
I bet the first word was hypoxia.
but they're listening to every word I say
Strangely though, I have a perfect sense of direction with a photographic memory of how to get there. I will not remember the names of the streets or anything, but if told to go somewhere I have been even just once I can almost always get back to there no matter how far away it is or how long it has been since I went there. Even if I had only been there once as a child I can still find my way back. It's like the only part of my memory I can rely on. Outside of that I have a very hard time.
I am having all four out next month and am none too thrilled about it.