I'm the last guy to argue against more nudity (or even just generally less content restrictions), but The Expanse books are hardly rife with sex or nude scenes. There's one major relationship that remains relatively intact through the books. Miller's into someone, but that is pretty much doomed from the start. Crew members visit hookers, but those are off-camera. I also guess that people are always trying to get into Bobbie's pantspower armor, but nobody has the guts.
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I honestly thought that Naomi had hooked up with Sam while she was broken up with Holden, but her complete meltdown over Sam's death was explained later. R.I.P. Sam
It's the swearing that is lacking here. Maybe they'll get around that with some sort of Belter creole, like they did with Chinese in Firefly.
They could actually work that in fairly well with Avasarala and Hindi cursing, though that depends on her actual line of descent. They don't make it precisely clear in the novels, but there's a good chance of it.
Queue Avasarala foreshadowing some of those things in early episodes this season...
I actually bet part of why they introduced her earlier was to show Earth's panic with respect to the prospect of asteroid bombardment when Eros starts to haul ass toward Earth. While it's common in hard scifi, asteroid bombardment doesn't immediately come to mind as a military tactic for the vast majority of TV and film viewers.
Queue Avasarala foreshadowing some of those things in early episodes this season...
I actually bet part of why they introduced her earlier was to show Earth's panic with respect to the prospect of asteroid bombardment when Eros starts to haul ass toward Earth. While it's common in hard scifi, asteroid bombardment doesn't immediately come to mind as a military tactic for the vast majority of TV and film viewers.
Has anyone actually said
"dropping rocks"
on the show yet? I don't think so... I know the term was introduced in Leviathan Wakes though.
Queue Avasarala foreshadowing some of those things in early episodes this season...
I actually bet part of why they introduced her earlier was to show Earth's panic with respect to the prospect of asteroid bombardment when Eros starts to haul ass toward Earth. While it's common in hard scifi, asteroid bombardment doesn't immediately come to mind as a military tactic for the vast majority of TV and film viewers.
Has anyone actually said
"dropping rocks"
on the show yet? I don't think so... I know the term was introduced in Leviathan Wakes though.
I know they mentioned mars stealth tech so far which is way way early. I sorta want to say the rock dropping came up but am really fuzzy on it. I know in the books that threat came up much earlier than I remembered since it didn't seem more than background at the time.
I do think they brought it up because people tend to underestimate just how much damage a rock thrown from space would actually do. Hell, that was part of the plot about the Free Navy not really understanding what they just did.
Watching through the first five episodes again, are the ships designed vertically?
If so, yes. I'm really liking the set/ship designs and how travel is depicted.
Yea, the direction of thrust is "Down" for all of the ones we've seen so far.
Awesome. I'm glad to see that. There aren't enough sci fi shows/movies with vertical deck plans.
The entire basis of the ship tech in The Expanse is that they can basically produce unlimited thrust; humans just turn into a fine paste if subjected to too many Gs, so their ships are ergonomically designed to travel at a comfortable 1G, allowing the crew and passengers to walk on the "floor." They also, however, are designed to work at zero G, and there are drugs and systems that allow them to go up to around 10G without killing people on-board, as long as they're in their crash couches.
Watching through the first five episodes again, are the ships designed vertically?
If so, yes. I'm really liking the set/ship designs and how travel is depicted.
Yea, the direction of thrust is "Down" for all of the ones we've seen so far.
Awesome. I'm glad to see that. There aren't enough sci fi shows/movies with vertical deck plans.
The entire basis of the ship tech in The Expanse is that they can basically produce unlimited thrust; humans just turn into a fine paste if subjected to too many Gs, so their ships are ergonomically designed to travel at a comfortable 1G, allowing the crew and passengers to walk on the "floor." They also, however, are designed to work at zero G, and there are drugs and systems that allow them to go up to around 10G without killing people on-board, as long as they're in their crash couches.
That's kind of what I gathered from the show so far w/r/t using drugs to get around acceleration killing everyone. It's a cool concept.
The Donnager design was inspired by a skyscraper somewhere.
They do note in the books that large military spacecraft are all typically reminiscent of skyscrapers sitting on top of engines. It'll be interesting to see what they did with the appearance of the UN ships.
The mark of a good show is that each episode is not enough. I feel unfulfilled each time the credits roll. Not due to a lack of entertainment, but because I want more. I would gorge myself on The Expanse if I could. I honestly feel this is the best sci-fi show I've ever watched, and that is not a statement I make lightly.
Heh nice little detail, once Naomi gets drunk she starts breaking out the belter patois and gestures
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
Just finished reading The Butcher of Anderson Station. Pretty good, short and sweet. Definitely need to re-watch episode 5 again thanks to that. Caliban's War is next!
Something that's been making me very happy with The Expanse is not just that they're including gay characters, but that they're not commenting upon their gayness one bit.
Like you get the distinct impression that "gay" isn't really a social categorization anyone would understand anymore. Different people have different tastes and it doesn't make much difference, the end.
Amos tells a guy at the bar he's not interested, but there's not the least hint of any like hetero recoil away from having a guy making eyes at him, nor is he like "no I'm not gay". He's just not interested.
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
Something that's been making me very happy with The Expanse is not just that they're including gay characters, but that they're not commenting upon their gayness one bit.
Like you get the distinct impression that "gay" isn't really a social categorization anyone would understand anymore. Different people have different tastes and it doesn't make much difference, the end.
Amos tells a guy at the bar he's not interested, but there's not the least hint of any like hetero recoil away from having a guy making eyes at him, nor is he like "no I'm not gay". He's just not interested.
Well, Abaddon's Gate has an Episcopal priest who is a married lesbian with biological children with her wife because technology allows that in the future, so one of the key problems, "gay people can't have kids" is not really an issue anymore. Honestly, people barely care about that stuff even now... two hundred years from now? No way anybody gives a shit, except maybe the Mormons, but they're on their way out of the solar system anyway.
Something that's been making me very happy with The Expanse is not just that they're including gay characters, but that they're not commenting upon their gayness one bit.
Like you get the distinct impression that "gay" isn't really a social categorization anyone would understand anymore. Different people have different tastes and it doesn't make much difference, the end.
Amos tells a guy at the bar he's not interested, but there's not the least hint of any like hetero recoil away from having a guy making eyes at him, nor is he like "no I'm not gay". He's just not interested.
Julie's dating profile also listed her orientation as pansexual which was neat to see.
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What's the deal with the artificial gravity going on/off when the drive does? Is that sci fi magic or is the acceleration creating it (and would that also be sci fi magic?)
Acceleration, there's no artificial gravity in the setting.
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wiltingI had fun once and it was awfulRegistered Userregular
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That's what I was thinking but it wasn't certain. So all the decks are vertically rather than horizontally orientated towards the engines, which are the bottom rather than the rear? How realistic is that actually?
In a setting where it's most economical to spend most of your time accelerating or decelerating to get to places faster and reduce health problems associated with extended periods of low G, it seems to make sense.
That's what I was thinking but it wasn't certain. So all the decks are vertically rather than horizontally orientated towards the engines, which are the bottom rather than the rear? How realistic is that actually?
It is pretty realistic. You can produce gravity like simulation using acceleration. The only limit is fuel. And in this universe that is solved by the drive system they use.
Yea, the unrealistic bit is the drive's efficiency with reaction mass but that is pretty much stated up front. I know that in the books the Roci pretty much never even pauses to consider anything about reaction mass even when jaunting all over the solar system though it is pretty well equipped as a military ship.
wiltingI had fun once and it was awfulRegistered Userregular
edited January 2016
I'm enjoying the show and I'm interested in the books, but I worry that it may be a bit inaccessible for audiences. Didn't feel like I had a decent grasp of the rules things were operating under for the first few episodes.
Like in the most recent episode
I didn't really understand the whole blowing up the asteroid in the giant net thing. Why not just drag it as it is, if you are trying to take all the mass with you anyway? That net had giant holes in it, of course stuff was going to leak out, what did he do wrong? Or was it liquid inside they were after?
I'm enjoying the show and I'm interested in the books, but I worry that it may be a bit inaccessible for audiences. Didn't feel like I had a decent grasp of the rules things were operating under for the first few episodes.
Like in the most recent episode
I didn't really understand the whole blowing up the asteroid in the giant net thing. Why not just drag it as it is, if you are trying to take all the mass with you anyway? That net had giant holes in it, of course stuff was going to leak out, what did he do wrong? Or was it liquid inside they were after?
I couldn't make heads or tails of why the rock farmer shattered the boulder either. I don't think a bunch of smaller rocks would be any easier to transport than one big rock. Wouldn't it be easier to just attach a tow rope and some 3D docking engines to the thing to get it into whatever stable orbit you are trying to sell it in?
I'm thinking that it's easier to process busted up and you don't want to be exploding rocks near a station.
But it is so much harder to transport. That was there because it looked cool. Like why the stealth ships drove right past the Knight in the premier rather than actually being way out in deep space where nobody was looking.
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They could actually work that in fairly well with Avasarala and Hindi cursing, though that depends on her actual line of descent. They don't make it precisely clear in the novels, but there's a good chance of it.
Whew it's a good show. I'm invested, and I'm glad to see good Sci Fi on television again.
I'm excited.
Serious Book 1/TV spoilers:
I actually bet part of why they introduced her earlier was to show Earth's panic with respect to the prospect of asteroid bombardment when Eros starts to haul ass toward Earth. While it's common in hard scifi, asteroid bombardment doesn't immediately come to mind as a military tactic for the vast majority of TV and film viewers.
Has anyone actually said
I do think they brought it up because people tend to underestimate just how much damage a rock thrown from space would actually do. Hell, that was part of the plot about the Free Navy not really understanding what they just did.
If so, yes. I'm really liking the set/ship designs and how travel is depicted.
Yea, the direction of thrust is "Down" for all of the ones we've seen so far.
Awesome. I'm glad to see that. There aren't enough sci fi shows/movies with vertical deck plans.
The entire basis of the ship tech in The Expanse is that they can basically produce unlimited thrust; humans just turn into a fine paste if subjected to too many Gs, so their ships are ergonomically designed to travel at a comfortable 1G, allowing the crew and passengers to walk on the "floor." They also, however, are designed to work at zero G, and there are drugs and systems that allow them to go up to around 10G without killing people on-board, as long as they're in their crash couches.
That's kind of what I gathered from the show so far w/r/t using drugs to get around acceleration killing everyone. It's a cool concept.
They do note in the books that large military spacecraft are all typically reminiscent of skyscrapers sitting on top of engines. It'll be interesting to see what they did with the appearance of the UN ships.
like dang accents alone are making me want to read the books to make it make sense.
the "your son is on parole soon, isn't he?" scene just felt so dumb and cliched
e6 felt a bit weak overall
e3 and e4 have been the high points for me
Utterly enthralling. Avasarala's voice. :heartbeat:
Paying for media? Yeah its obnoxious.
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To be fair, Miller also did that to someone already, same airlock...
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Like you get the distinct impression that "gay" isn't really a social categorization anyone would understand anymore. Different people have different tastes and it doesn't make much difference, the end.
Amos tells a guy at the bar he's not interested, but there's not the least hint of any like hetero recoil away from having a guy making eyes at him, nor is he like "no I'm not gay". He's just not interested.
Well, Abaddon's Gate has an Episcopal priest who is a married lesbian with biological children with her wife because technology allows that in the future, so one of the key problems, "gay people can't have kids" is not really an issue anymore. Honestly, people barely care about that stuff even now... two hundred years from now? No way anybody gives a shit, except maybe the Mormons, but they're on their way out of the solar system anyway.
Julie's dating profile also listed her orientation as pansexual which was neat to see.
It is pretty realistic. You can produce gravity like simulation using acceleration. The only limit is fuel. And in this universe that is solved by the drive system they use.
Like in the most recent episode
I didn't really understand the whole blowing up the asteroid in the giant net thing. Why not just drag it as it is, if you are trying to take all the mass with you anyway? That net had giant holes in it, of course stuff was going to leak out, what did he do wrong? Or was it liquid inside they were after?
I couldn't make heads or tails of why the rock farmer shattered the boulder either. I don't think a bunch of smaller rocks would be any easier to transport than one big rock. Wouldn't it be easier to just attach a tow rope and some 3D docking engines to the thing to get it into whatever stable orbit you are trying to sell it in?
I'm also very lukewarm to the actor playing Holden. I feel like he's a real weak link in the cast.
But it is so much harder to transport. That was there because it looked cool. Like why the stealth ships drove right past the Knight in the premier rather than actually being way out in deep space where nobody was looking.