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Wait there was an actual show named Rook? I was just making a Castle joke.
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i really appreciate it. while it's a fun topic it's pretty easy to find places to discuss them and it makes this thread a bit harder to search through in relation to other movies.
Also, I really don't think it should be rated R. The violence was TAME by modern standards.
Hell, rate it G. Force kids to watch it.
40 year old guy is going to have a kid, it will be a boy, he's worried about not being an alpha male. So he tries to learn how to be a man like his father, because his 70 year old dad was a successful heart surgeon and father of three who the movie desperately tries to make a bad guy for having dated views on what being a man and a woman are, which in reality aren't (he's not calling people nancies or sissies or some usual cliche Hollywood would use, he's been in a stable loving marriage for 43 years and truly loves his wife, so much so they ride a tandem bike all the time with matching bike suits, he's just a go getter hard working straight guy so of course that is apparently evil these days). But as you see, the father's biggest sin was being a successful man who had a kid who basically got to do whatever he wanted and was spoiled to the point where he never really had to pick something because his parents would always bail him out.
So here we have the new type of documentary, the "self reflective" style but in all actuality a narcissistic film where a person pretends to act self deprecating but just wants people to talk about them doing whatever topic they choose is because they need attention. For as much as it says alpha male in this movie the people who do really aren't, it's essentially a bunch of old nerds who all went to ivy league schools trying to out-lie one another and be the dominant nerd in the group, it's the kind of posturing "real men" don't need to do because they're completely secure and generally don't like to talk about themselves, as we see with the main character's father. There is literally a scene where the lead guy is getting lessons from a skinny, effeminate, strongly implied gay guy acting coach who is trying to make him Tim the Tool Man Taylor in the very stereotypical male way, and the irony seems to be completely lost on everyone. And then the guy decides in order to be a man he needs to hunt, so he buys a rifle, hits himself in the head with the recoil so badly he bruises and bloodies his head, then kills a deer (a younger one too which really isn't cool) in an attempt to get these unseen man points (to which his older brother, who is much more secure with himself, rightly points out is ridiculous). Oh, and he juxtaposes getting ready for his hunting trip with scenes of his third trimester pregnant wife looking at her belly because can't you see, life and death, man! Acoustic guitar strumming in the background all the time for musical cues on how you should feel!
This is not film. This is not art. It's the movie equivalent of someone fishing for compliments or taking selfies and getting paid a decent amount to do so with a lot of scenes that do feel like they're manufactured or forcing subjectivity in order to create a different meaning, and that's just weak, yo.
It was really slow, and seemed like it was trying to push you toward a certain interpretation of Mark Schultz' and John du Pont's relationship.
Channing Tatum was really good at portraying a wrestler, and Steve Carrell was pretty good at playing a creepy-as-fuck rich dude who talks without moving his face.
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Dumb ass me fell for it too... I was thinking of the Unusuals... which he played a cop in. Of course he was still that guy from Senior Trip back then.
I was pleasantly surprised by how it turned the usual story upside down. Although I am very curious as to where it will go if the rumors of a trilogy are true. Thanks a ton for the suggestion.
I miss dat show. With Joan of Arcadia and Hawkeye as cops.
I'm not sure you're understanding the concept of what i'm discussing, but ok, i'll play ball. No need to split hairs over the minute.
I am a bit confused over this part:
Where did this come from? Gender party? Where is that in my post? Didn't bring that up at all in my point, this is straight out of left field. Just odd.
And then nobody talks about it in the MCU thread
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That is actually a surprise! Cinderella is the blandest fairy tail in the Disney catalog, i'm curious how they fleshed out what were essentially cardboard cutout characters and plot narrative.
For the life of me I can't think of what you're referring to. Could you link me to an IMDB page for this?
I may have jumped a couple steps. My experience is that, here or in any other thread, most people consider Marvel movies to be pretty good in general; if you want this conversation to include any criticism of those movies, I could fulfill that goal as one of the few resident anti-Marvelists, but that's a conversation we've had in this thread several times over already (and loudly at that).
Gender parity, or gender equality, is what much of the conversation over the last few pages was about. I assumed you were asking for somebody to weigh in on that from the non-Marvel-fan's perspective, so I did. So this part was not actually directly addressed to you but to the subject as a whole; but that address was something I thought you were asking for.
The story about the guy who falls madly in love with the girl whose face he can't remember.
He didn't ask to be a podophile, don't be such an ableist.
Discussing this kind of thing in the MCU thread seems kinda weird anyway. The demographics are heavily weighted and it really feels like wandering into someone's treehouse to shit all over their club.
Yeah, that is the thread to go to if you're looking to gush over the MCU. Honestly, I would love to have a discussion about films within the MCU outside of the context of them being in the MCU, if only just to see more analysis that runs counter to the attitude you'd find in that other thread.
Nailed it.
It's tough to hold a discussion when you're stepping into a stronghold, you're just going to get overwhelmed to the point of frustration. It's like a Democrat expecting a balanced debate at the Republican National Convention.
It seems any valid criticism gets sidelined or diverted to 'take it up in MCU thread' instead of addressed. We're adopting special rules for a branch of movies where other action movies would be called out on without a moments hesitation, it's weird and a bit biased.
Seconded. Mulan would be a legit as fuck live action Disney movie. Albeit you'd have to grab a Pirates of the Caribbean level rating to do it right.
Yeah yeah, I get it. I'm not interested in pursuing it any further, just wanna be heard.
It's just strange how we've got two solid pages of discussion on Marvel without any intervention until I bring up basic plot dissection on Thor 2, and now it's 'take it to the MCU thread'. I'm totally cool with it if we're applying this to all Marvel movies.
Ming-Na Wen needs a role in this.
How was Frozen Fever?
The big question is, who has the moxie to play Shan Yu?
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Like I said, the post i made in here on the subject was an accident; I forgot which thread i was in. As much as my posting about MCU films in here was a tacit endorsement of that line of conversation, that whole tangent is my bad, and i don't hold other folks responsible for that instance.
I understand the frustration with trying to post general criticism of the entire MCU in that thread. The series is popular, disliking the whole shebang is a minority opinion, and holding minority opinions in popular threads is difficult. However, we've just witnessed what this thread looks like when the MCU gets mentioned; it drowns out discussion of anything else.
It's kind of a bummer that certain viewpoints are difficult to accommodate, but this is the best situation we're going to get until such time as more people are of the opinion that the films are generally bad.
If anyone wants to further discussion of this topic - i.e. how to divvy up thread topics - you're welcome to PM me, with the caveat that I am exceedingly unlikely to change my mind.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled movie discussion.
It's only because she has a totally slammin ass.
Anyway, I've always found the animated film charming, if a little generic. Cinderella as a person has an infectious personality. She's optimistic, intelligent, capable, and confident. She has a shitty lot in life, but she refuses to give into it.
She's a lot better than Snow Fucking White, whose singular personality trait is that she's literally terminally stupid. Oh, and she can bake a pie.
The Rock could still do it, I think.
Or Jason Momoa.
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we could use an asian american actor.
because damn do they need work.
A solid foundation for a lasting marriage.
And don't even get me started on the "she brings life back to the forest" b-plot which gets dropped as soon as the Forest Lord dies. Which is a pity - the production design on that b-plot was fucking fantastic, and combined with Charlize being A Boss brings the movie up to a bearable level.
Soldiers in the Rain
The two star as an odd pair of military gents with Gleason playing the straight man to McQueen's fumbling, bumbling, and charming slacker who only wants to get the most out of life with the last amount of effort. While Gleason is his superior the two become fast friends despite their differences because Gleason's character is simply wary of his long military career and seems to welcome the change of pace. There are some genuine laughs and some sincere drama (Gleason's character struggles with his weight and McQueen is often taken advantage of) and as a result the movie has a bit of an odd pace. Tuesday Weld plays the closest thing this film has to a leading lady and and plays her role wonderfully.
It is by all means a film worth viewing and it may be a bit confusing that it has so little notoriety considering Gleason and McQueen at the helm. Soldiers in the Rain was released at the box office on November 27th 1963. Five days after the Kennedy assassination and went largely unnoticed as a result.
There is also one exceptionally kinetic and brutal fight sequence that really shows both stars give it their all to defend their friendship. It may be worthwhile viewing just to see Jackie Gleason and Steve McQueen stand side by side in a bar room brawl.
I can't say I enjoyed it much, but it was certainly memorable.
Honestly those were just the first big muscular guys that I like to watch act that came to mind. I'm open to suggestions.
If Bolo were still 30 he'd be pretty awesome, but half of Shan Yu's power is his design and the other half is Miguel Ferrer's voice.
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If you mean Tim Kang from The Mentalist... hmm.
I am intrigued. Big guy, black belt in taekwando, pretty good voice, definite presence.
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I do.
He's the manliest motherfucker on teevee.