Right after the E3 trailer came out there was a lot of people making that exact assumption, that ‘Oh yeah, this better be supporting VR right from the get go.’ It honestly wasn’t our plan," Jorg Neumann, head of Microsoft Flight Simulator, told AVSIM. "But we are listening, and we heard it, so we will try our darnedest to make it happen. Whether or not we’re going to pull it off for launch, we can’t commit to that at this point in time, but we are aware of the desire, and given that we genuinely want to make the sim that simmers want, we will try to prioritise that over other things."
Yeah I have a rift, but if the VR is good in this I’ll pick up a higher res helmet.
I’ve got the hotas already so I just need them to accept me into the alpha please.
I’m wondering since all the geo data and real commercial flight data is pulled from Azure. Will the environment also use real weather data, it would be cool to fly during a storm that is really happening.
I've been holding out on VR but the new Steam Index sounds like VR has finally hit a point where it'll be worth investing in. MFS 2020 would definitely be a killer app for me and then I'd have the Index for other sims.
Now if only we could get Steel Battalion 2 as a stupidly high end HOTAS-VR game
Right after the E3 trailer came out there was a lot of people making that exact assumption, that ‘Oh yeah, this better be supporting VR right from the get go.’ It honestly wasn’t our plan," Jorg Neumann, head of Microsoft Flight Simulator, told AVSIM. "But we are listening, and we heard it, so we will try our darnedest to make it happen. Whether or not we’re going to pull it off for launch, we can’t commit to that at this point in time, but we are aware of the desire, and given that we genuinely want to make the sim that simmers want, we will try to prioritise that over other things."
RIP my fucking wallet if they make this happen
It's not hard to believe. WMR (the baked-in Windows 10 functionality for VR and stuff like HoloLens) has native Xbox game support, to no one's surprise. It would probably come to that first. I also assume this game will come out on Steam in some variety. SteamVR support for WMR devices (on top of the actual VR sets produced by Valve) has been good, so the reverse isn't hard to picture. That would be the next step, when it actually releases on Steam (after the initial PC launch, unless it's simultaneous, which seems less likely).
Having had a VR headset for almost two years now, I do think that the sit-down vehicular experience is the easiest for developers to get right. That being said, they need to get the game right. Then they can add VR. The "better support VR from the getgo" people can piss-off, we haven't had a Flight Simulator release for 14 years, no previous content can be carried over, and the design philosophy is shooting for incredibly detailed aircraft. If VR takes any from any of the content development time, it's too much, especially considering how many people actually own VR headsets. I'd welcome it afterwards though.
I've been holding out on VR but the new Steam Index sounds like VR has finally hit a point where it'll be worth investing in. MFS 2020 would definitely be a killer app for me and then I'd have the Index for other sims.
Now if only we could get Steel Battalion 2 as a stupidly high end HOTAS-VR game
Yes, but that would require people actually want to buy and play Steel Battalion.
(Yes, I'm sad about it too.)
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Sir CarcassI have been shown the end of my worldRound Rock, TXRegistered Userregular
Yeah I have a rift, but if the VR is good in this I’ll pick up a higher res helmet.
I’ve got the hotas already so I just need them to accept me into the alpha please.
I’m wondering since all the geo data and real commercial flight data is pulled from Azure. Will the environment also use real weather data, it would be cool to fly during a storm that is really happening.
Yes, they've confirmed you can use live weather data.
I mean 90% of the systems and content necessary for the world and weather stuff are already made, the game just needs to tap into it. The real meat of the work is aerodinamics and in game graphics
I mean 90% of the systems and content necessary for the world and weather stuff are already made, the game just needs to tap into it. The real meat of the work is aerodinamics and in game graphics
I know they're not that comparable, but I'd love for the guys who do the weather effects in Forza Motorsport 7 at Turn 10 could get in non this. That sort of grey-over-green overcast in a flight sim? *chef kiss*
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
I want Microsoft to license out the basic world, geography and weather system to other developers. I'd love to see some competition to DCS show up in the modern combat sim arena, but the barriers to entry are high. Being able to get a hold of a purpose built high altitude world and weather engine would be a huge starting point. That would let a developer focus on just implementing the jets and a "game" around them.
I want Microsoft to license out the basic world, geography and weather system to other developers. I'd love to see some competition to DCS show up in the modern combat sim arena, but the barriers to entry are high. Being able to get a hold of a purpose built high altitude world and weather engine would be a huge starting point. That would let a developer focus on just implementing the jets and a "game" around them.
I'd also like a pony and a Porsche for Christmas.
If MFS 2020 does good numbers and is the promised land like it sounds like, I'm kinda hype to see MS throw the engine at a new Microsoft Combat Flight Simulator next. They've got the bucks and connections to make it happen and MCFS on that engine would be pretty damn mind blowing.
Okay, anyone else bothered by the fact that the titlecard at the end lists the Roosevelt, Lincoln, and Washington, but all the deck crews' shirts were for the Stennis?
Okay, anyone else bothered by the fact that the titlecard at the end lists the Roosevelt, Lincoln, and Washington, but all the deck crews' shirts were for the Stennis?
Okay, anyone else bothered by the fact that the titlecard at the end lists the Roosevelt, Lincoln, and Washington, but all the deck crews' shirts were for the Stennis?
It took me ... rather longer than it usually does to tell that was in-engine stuff and not actual footage at first. Wow.
It's going to get harder to tell the difference because they're also adding wingflex animations to the aircraft. So every time the airframe experiences high G's the wings will bend.
GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
I'll be impressed when they get wing flutter in for the F-16. At high speeds, with certain load outs, the wings will actually "flap", or flutter. In RL I'm fairly certain they are taught to keep it to a minimum as its not great for the wings lifespan.
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Planes don't fly so great without wings, I hear.
Except the A-10 which can fly with .05 of a wing and a strong headwind, or something.
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
The F-15 can fly without a wing as well, proven by the Israeli air force. Above 200 knots the F-15 generates enough lift from it's body to keep it in the air.
I'll be impressed when they get wing flutter in for the F-16. At high speeds, with certain load outs, the wings will actually "flap", or flutter. In RL I'm fairly certain they are taught to keep it to a minimum as its not great for the wings lifespan.
I'm wondering if it's in already, but you don't see much of it in the video because there are AMRAAMs on the wingtips. Apparently loading a heavier missile on the wingtips helps cut down on flutter (though it increases strain on the wing, so it's still killing the airframe slowly).
Also: that's a Turkmen Air Force Mi-24, for whatever reason. Turkmenistan does operate it, but still, not usually who we think of.
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
I'm really hoping they follow through on their promise of performance improvements this year. My biggest complaint with DCS right now is how badly it performs, especially in VR. I can't throw more hardware at it, I already have an ultra-premium top end machine. Flying things like the Viper and Hornet in VR is amazing but as soon as you get in to a busy server or area on the map the performance just plummets.
Does DCS have much in the way of single player content or is it mostly multiplayer?
Yeah, I play much, much more DCS singleplayer than multiplayer. But I also spend a lot of time doing training.
I shamefully have to admit that although I own the Blackshark 2 module, I've mainly played the Courier mission where you have to pick up a package from a broken down truck, land on a boat, then return to base. The majority of my flights have only been in that mission, but I've had fun. Now that I've finally FINALLY completed that mission, I'm expanding into learning how to shoot the missiles. Ha ha ha.
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Sir CarcassI have been shown the end of my worldRound Rock, TXRegistered Userregular
Does DCS have much in the way of single player content or is it mostly multiplayer?
Yeah, I play much, much more DCS singleplayer than multiplayer. But I also spend a lot of time doing training.
I shamefully have to admit that although I own the Blackshark 2 module, I've mainly played the Courier mission where you have to pick up a package from a broken down truck, land on a boat, then return to base. The majority of my flights have only been in that mission, but I've had fun. Now that I've finally FINALLY completed that mission, I'm expanding into learning how to shoot the missiles. Ha ha ha.
99% of my DCS time has been spent flying the A-10C from airbase to airbase.
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
Strangely I've spent almost no time in SP in DCS. I think it's because I got seriously in to flight siming with Falcon BMS multiplayer. I've never taken the time to sit down and figure out DCS single player.
Does DCS have much in the way of single player content or is it mostly multiplayer?
Yeah, I play much, much more DCS singleplayer than multiplayer. But I also spend a lot of time doing training.
I shamefully have to admit that although I own the Blackshark 2 module, I've mainly played the Courier mission where you have to pick up a package from a broken down truck, land on a boat, then return to base. The majority of my flights have only been in that mission, but I've had fun. Now that I've finally FINALLY completed that mission, I'm expanding into learning how to shoot the missiles. Ha ha ha.
99% of my DCS time has been spent flying the A-10C from airbase to airbase.
99% of my time is taking off in the F5, flying around the scenery, and then running out of fuel.
DCS is letting you try most of their modules for free from April 18-May 19th. The F-14B and AJS-37 Viggen are unfortunately not included, but there’s a whole pile of planes and maps that are.
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
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The Hornet is probably still my favorite module right now. The Viper is my favorite jet of all time, but it's just very feature light right now compared to the Hornet. COVID-19 isn't helping ED's development pace.
If you're wanting to get deep in to a modern module the Hornet is definitely my recommendation to try out. The JF-17 is also very highly recommended but I don't have it...so I may take the opportunity to try the Jeff out during this period.
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RIP my fucking wallet if they make this happen
I’ve got the hotas already so I just need them to accept me into the alpha please.
I’m wondering since all the geo data and real commercial flight data is pulled from Azure. Will the environment also use real weather data, it would be cool to fly during a storm that is really happening.
Now if only we could get Steel Battalion 2 as a stupidly high end HOTAS-VR game
It's not hard to believe. WMR (the baked-in Windows 10 functionality for VR and stuff like HoloLens) has native Xbox game support, to no one's surprise. It would probably come to that first. I also assume this game will come out on Steam in some variety. SteamVR support for WMR devices (on top of the actual VR sets produced by Valve) has been good, so the reverse isn't hard to picture. That would be the next step, when it actually releases on Steam (after the initial PC launch, unless it's simultaneous, which seems less likely).
Having had a VR headset for almost two years now, I do think that the sit-down vehicular experience is the easiest for developers to get right. That being said, they need to get the game right. Then they can add VR. The "better support VR from the getgo" people can piss-off, we haven't had a Flight Simulator release for 14 years, no previous content can be carried over, and the design philosophy is shooting for incredibly detailed aircraft. If VR takes any from any of the content development time, it's too much, especially considering how many people actually own VR headsets. I'd welcome it afterwards though.
Yes, but that would require people actually want to buy and play Steel Battalion.
(Yes, I'm sad about it too.)
Yes, they've confirmed you can use live weather data.
I know they're not that comparable, but I'd love for the guys who do the weather effects in Forza Motorsport 7 at Turn 10 could get in non this. That sort of grey-over-green overcast in a flight sim? *chef kiss*
I'd also like a pony and a Porsche for Christmas.
If MFS 2020 does good numbers and is the promised land like it sounds like, I'm kinda hype to see MS throw the engine at a new Microsoft Combat Flight Simulator next. They've got the bucks and connections to make it happen and MCFS on that engine would be pretty damn mind blowing.
Hnnnnnnnggggggggggggggg, I need this in my veeeeiiiins.
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Did anyone else even notice that, you NERD
:P
No. But now I can't unsee it.
Edit: Dangit, now I need the F-14 and this.
Steam: betsuni7
Honestly, the main giveaway were the human animations. They looked a bit stiff, but they're also still a work in progress.
It's going to get harder to tell the difference because they're also adding wingflex animations to the aircraft. So every time the airframe experiences high G's the wings will bend.
Except the A-10 which can fly with .05 of a wing and a strong headwind, or something.
I'm wondering if it's in already, but you don't see much of it in the video because there are AMRAAMs on the wingtips. Apparently loading a heavier missile on the wingtips helps cut down on flutter (though it increases strain on the wing, so it's still killing the airframe slowly).
Dammit Eagle Dynamics...it's too damned early to hit me in the emotional gut like that.
Dangit, now I want to watch this instead of working....
Edit: I should have said, "Talk to me Goose." instead. Missed my chance.
Steam: betsuni7
(For a pop song lamenting the Irish Troubles and the military occupation before that, that's really damn good for a ultra-high-tech warfare sim.)
Hearing the turbine spool down and then back up again is
There are campaigns for their major modules, along with mission generators...so there's at least stuff available for us soloers.
I only play single player, which is just flying around and not crashing.
Steam: betsuni7
Yeah, I play much, much more DCS singleplayer than multiplayer. But I also spend a lot of time doing training.
I shamefully have to admit that although I own the Blackshark 2 module, I've mainly played the Courier mission where you have to pick up a package from a broken down truck, land on a boat, then return to base. The majority of my flights have only been in that mission, but I've had fun. Now that I've finally FINALLY completed that mission, I'm expanding into learning how to shoot the missiles. Ha ha ha.
99% of my DCS time has been spent flying the A-10C from airbase to airbase.
99% of my time is taking off in the F5, flying around the scenery, and then running out of fuel.
If you're wanting to get deep in to a modern module the Hornet is definitely my recommendation to try out. The JF-17 is also very highly recommended but I don't have it...so I may take the opportunity to try the Jeff out during this period.
And I can't even refuel in midair.