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  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    Eddy wrote: »
    but nah, you guys are right - art isn't important at all

    Just like fonts

  • EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    ronya wrote: »
    that applies both ways: you cannot rationalize its value as in contributing toward defeating ideological fascism, because frankly it isn't very good at that either

    I don't think valuing art in itself fights against fascism, only that it very indirectly promotes being critically aware of multipolarities of meaning, which is one tool to fight fascism

    "and the morning stars I have seen
    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
  • ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    Zephiran wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    youtuber in the obnoxious atheist vein
    [Jesus Christ as] "power-hungry and malicious but deceive others into thinking they are both compassionate and kind"

    [on followers] "completely delusional and ignorant, and have absolutely no sound logic or knowledge about him that is grounded in reality"

    (so what else is new)

    ... has been arrested and will be charged under the sedition act

    uh

    ok

    Welcome to the Concrete Island Jungle, we've got sedition laws and a really interesting self-censoring press?

    he got at least 8+ known police reports filed against him sooooo

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    There is so much to do in this god damn city.

    Damn PoE stop keeping me so busy.

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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    I wonder how Singapore would be viewed if it wasn't full of money.

  • EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    but yes as always you are correct ronya >:C

    "and the morning stars I have seen
    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    Why does anyone bother writing poetry who isn't Thomas Ligotti?

  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    ronya wrote: »
    viewing art as a utilitarian act toward revolution is a mistake to begin with

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  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    i can't tell if people are for real arguing that aren't isn't incredibly important or not.

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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Eddy wrote: »
    but nah, you guys are right - art isn't important at all

    I'm sorry for phrasing it in a way that I knew would get a rise out of you

    what I should have said it: it's not unimportant. But I think you feel it is a lot more important than I do.

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  • simonwolfsimonwolf i can feel a difference today, a differenceRegistered User regular
    edited March 2015
    My favourite haiku by one of the masters of the form, Issa, are

    ōuma ni
    shiri kosuraruru
    sakura kana


    and

    chiru hana ya
    ima no komachi ga
    shiri no ato

    "The big horse rubs his butt on cherry blossoms" and "Fallen blossoms -- the local beauty leaves her butt print"

    simonwolf on
  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    Why does anyone who isn't Thomas Ligotti bother writing poetry?

  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    I'm so glad this thread is almost over.

    Happiness is within reach!
  • knitdanknitdan Registered User regular
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    “I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
    -Indiana Solo, runner of blades
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    i can't tell if people are for real arguing that aren't isn't incredibly important or not.

    we are!

    it's fun

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  • SummaryJudgmentSummaryJudgment Grab the hottest iron you can find, stride in the Tower’s front door Registered User regular
    Is Constitution really all that important for fighters?

    It's got the Gold star and everything, but I'm wondering if I wouldn't be better off with a high Might

    I want to build two-handed melee warrior focusing more on DPS than tanking

    Edit: Like, I'm looking at Chanters now. Constitution is gold starred - why? Why not Might instead? They both give a Fortitude bonus, and a Chanter is supposed to be DPSing things, at least relative to a Fighter or Paladin

  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    I wonder how Singapore would be viewed if it wasn't full of money.

    It is an authoritarian country.

    Like China, UAE and a good amount of the countries in the world. It is just much more productive than others.

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  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    Also, Song of the South

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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    eddy

    let's agree on one thing

    the lamentations of uninterested chatters when discussions like these are had is what is good in life

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  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    i can't tell if people are for real arguing that aren't isn't incredibly important or not.

    Well some art is important.

    Just not anime.

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  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    edited March 2015
    Eddy wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    I'm not a big haiku fan

    they're kind of overplayed and it wasn't a terribly interesting form in english to begin with

    when haikus are good, they're real good for me

    when haikus are good
    they are really good for me
    five more syllables

    Deebaser on
  • EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    Art is much more useful for the majority / tradition / power side, because anything revolutionary can easily be commodified and rendered harmless

    therefore the only stalwart aide to revolutionaries is of course actually putting boots on the ground

    "and the morning stars I have seen
    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    Eddy wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    that applies both ways: you cannot rationalize its value as in contributing toward defeating ideological fascism, because frankly it isn't very good at that either

    I don't think valuing art in itself fights against fascism, only that it very indirectly promotes being critically aware of multipolarities of meaning, which is one tool to fight fascism
    This sounds like the sort of thing people would like to be true

  • MsAnthropyMsAnthropy The Lady of Pain Breaks the Rhythm, Breaks the Rhythm, Breaks the Rhythm The City of FlowersRegistered User regular
    @skippydumptruck @So It Goes
    Have either of you been to BTU Brasserie? Wife took me there for birfday eats. Good Chinese food and excellent in-house beer. Would highly recommend.

    Luscious Sounds Spotify Playlist

    "The only real politics I knew was that if a guy liked Hitler, I’d beat the stuffing out of him and that would be it." -- Jack Kirby
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited March 2015
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Eddy wrote: »
    but nah, you guys are right - art isn't important at all

    I'm sorry for phrasing it in a way that I knew would get a rise out of you

    what I should have said it: it's not unimportant. But I think you feel it is a lot more important than I do.

    also to make sure: there isn't a shred of snark here, I said what I mean

    Abdhyius on
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  • ZephiranZephiran Registered User regular
    ronya wrote: »
    Zephiran wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    youtuber in the obnoxious atheist vein
    [Jesus Christ as] "power-hungry and malicious but deceive others into thinking they are both compassionate and kind"

    [on followers] "completely delusional and ignorant, and have absolutely no sound logic or knowledge about him that is grounded in reality"

    (so what else is new)

    ... has been arrested and will be charged under the sedition act

    uh

    ok

    Welcome to the Concrete Island Jungle, we've got sedition laws and a really interesting self-censoring press?

    he got at least 8+ known police reports filed against him sooooo

    Yooooo the comments section is a hoot doe

    Alright and in this next scene all the animals have AIDS.

    I got a little excited when I saw your ship.
  • ZephiranZephiran Registered User regular
    But are videogames art?

    Alright and in this next scene all the animals have AIDS.

    I got a little excited when I saw your ship.
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  • GethGeth Legion Perseus VeilRegistered User, Moderator, Penny Arcade Staff, Vanilla Staff vanilla
    This thread is no longer active, and will be recycled.
    On average, this thread was zooming by at warp 2.8

    @ronya will create the new thread
    @Eddy is backup

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