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  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    work history from 10+ years ago that's not really related to your field isn't necessary to include on a resume right?

    because that would just be silly

    "can make a baller ass hollandaise" is probably not useful to the inventory management skillset

    "Rolls the best blizzy this side of Atlanta and asks no questions ayyyyyy"

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Like straight up, that's nearly ~$130,000 net pay ($100k in taxes for living in NYC).

    Rent is maybe 3k a month, so for sake of math let's say $30,000 a year for rent.

    Maybe another $1000 a month for incidentals like travel and food, utilities, etc ?

    $48,000.

    You have nearly $90,000 a year extra to just piss away.

    As a single earner.

    That's not "well off" that's "wealthy".

    why would you rent?

    If you're really smart, you live like a pauper in NYC for 10-15 years. Get the cheapest rent, bank all your extra cash, invest it. Leave off home cooked meals, ride a bike to work.

    Then, 10-15 years later, you retire and move to some state with a low CoL where you can drop $200,000 on a house and buy it outright and pay $1500 a year for the rest of your life in taxes.

    Then your bills work out to something like $150 a month for taxes and $1000 for just general quality of life living. If you worked in NYC and banked $100,000 in wages a year in a savings account (not even invested it) you'd have 1.5 million (roughly).

    It would take you 750 months at 2000 a month to go through that. Or, 62.5 years.

    You'd earn something like $100,000 a year in interest at 7%

    You could split that in half, and reinvest it right back in, and still live very comfortably.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • PodlyPodly you unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered User regular
    who plays jenga stoned? that sounds waaaay too difficult plus a game would take forever

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  • Sir LandsharkSir Landshark resting shark face Registered User regular
    MrMister wrote: »
    so #1's birthday is coming up. we have been slowly introducing him into concepts of charity and helping others and he wants to donate his birthday presents to a charity this year (he will still get some stuff from us and his immediate family tho, just not the party guests). wife showed him a couple options and of course he picked PAWS (no-kill shelter group for the Chicago area). so on the evite for his party we asked people to bring items that he can take to PAWS to donate.

    I have a strong suspicion this will end with another dog. wife has been pushing ever since Leroy died so this all seems a bit too convenient.

    Shortly after the death of my grandmother, my aunt kind of went off the rails. The death happened to fall just before mother's day, so my aunt had a card all written out to her; it was also, coincidentally, just before my aunt's ex-husband Tom's birthday.

    So she took the card, crossed out the 'M' ('Dear M(T)om') and gave it to her ex along with a basket with a puppy in it. Happy birthday MTom!

    :bigfrown: :bigfrown: :bigfrown:

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  • AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    I feel needy and bad about being needy

    I'm not sure there's a fix for that

  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator Mod Emeritus
    Casual wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    Casual wrote: »
    this is exactly why i hate that fucking image

    people talk about it like it's a valid argument that needs refuting and not some bullshit wsj editorial nonsense

    seriously

    it's pants on head retarded

    worse still it drags us into infuriating subjective stuff

    everyone has a different line set for what "well off" "rich" "hard done by" and "getting fucked on your taxes" is we can squabble about it for as long as we want but one thing will not change

    that. image. is. BULLSHIT.

    fwiw no one (except skfm, weakly) apologized for or defended that thing. people just made fun of it

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  • MrMisterMrMister Jesus dying on the cross in pain? Morally better than us. One has to go "all in".Registered User regular
    200-300K is enough to live very comfortably, and to put you in the vanishing top percent of wage-earners. But you still probably live mostly off your income. It's not enough to make you a master of the universe, aka the new landed gentry who have enough invested money to not only see to their needs and the needs of their children in perpetuity, but also to exert large-scale power over the political process. Which of those categories do you want to designate as 'wealthy' versus 'rich' versus 'well-off'? Eh.

  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Casual wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    Casual wrote: »
    this is exactly why i hate that fucking image

    people talk about it like it's a valid argument that needs refuting and not some bullshit wsj editorial nonsense

    seriously

    it's pants on head retarded

    worse still it drags us into infuriating subjective stuff

    everyone has a different line set for what "well off" "rich" "hard done by" and "getting fucked on your taxes" is we can squabble about it for as long as we want but one thing will not change

    that. image. is. BULLSHIT.

    I just looked at it and went like WELL THIS SURE HAS ALL RELEVANT INFO TO HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT and instead talked about something more fun

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  • HaphazardHaphazard Registered User regular
    @Donkey Kong the hell are you doing in Fürstenfeldbruck? What even is there?

  • Sir LandsharkSir Landshark resting shark face Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Like straight up, that's nearly ~$130,000 net pay ($100k in taxes for living in NYC).

    Rent is maybe 3k a month, so for sake of math let's say $30,000 a year for rent.

    Maybe another $1000 a month for incidentals like travel and food, utilities, etc ?

    $48,000.

    You have nearly $90,000 a year extra to just piss away.

    As a single earner.

    That's not "well off" that's "wealthy".

    why would you rent?

    If you're really smart, you live like a pauper in NYC for 10-15 years. Get the cheapest rent, bank all your extra cash, invest it. Leave off home cooked meals, ride a bike to work.

    Then, 10-15 years later, you retire and move to some state with a low CoL where you can drop $200,000 on a house and buy it outright and pay $1500 a year for the rest of your life in taxes.

    Then your bills work out to something like $150 a month for taxes and $1000 for just general quality of life living. If you worked in NYC and banked $100,000 in wages a year in a savings account (not even invested it) you'd have 1.5 million (roughly).

    It would take you 750 months at 2000 a month to go through that. Or, 62.5 years.

    You'd earn something like $100,000 a year in interest at 7%

    You could split that in half, and reinvest it right back in, and still live very comfortably.

    most people in NYC are insufferable about the thought of living anywhere else tho :)

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  • PodlyPodly you unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered User regular
    also she's definitely stoned in the cooking one

    totally forgot to cut up the rest of the pepper and just threw only a couple of pieces in

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  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator Mod Emeritus
    Atomika wrote: »
    I feel needy and bad about being needy

    I'm not sure there's a fix for that

    be less needy!

    also less bad!

    and feel better!

    it's all so simple!

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Gooey wrote: »
    like, 230k in most places is "i can buy a house in a nice neighborhood, drive a mid level car, and go on vacation once a year"

    it's not an opulent amount of wealth believe it or not

    The more money you have, the more you spend.

    Why would you need $230,000 to do those things?

    $230,000 as a family of 4? Yeah that's not a whole lot, but it is. Most families don't have dual income parents pulling in $115k a piece.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    guys again let's not talk about money, cool, sweet, great

    poo
  • Kid PresentableKid Presentable Registered User regular
    How do people talk about money without feeling anxious, depressed, inadequate, and terrified?

    Oh, you just have lots of money? Yeah I guess that would do it.

  • Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    how about butts instead

    poo
  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Atomika wrote: »
    I feel needy and bad about being needy

    I'm not sure there's a fix for that

    getting everything you want prolly

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    Gooey wrote: »
    like, 230k in most places is "i can buy a house in a nice neighborhood, drive a mid level car, and go on vacation once a year"

    it's not an opulent amount of wealth believe it or not

    it will put you on a good path with no financial worries and a secure retirement, but it's hardly popping bottles of champ on the deck of your yacht.

  • PodlyPodly you unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered User regular
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  • GooeyGooey (\/)┌¶─¶┐(\/) pinch pinchRegistered User regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    like, 230k in most places is "i can buy a house in a nice neighborhood, drive a mid level car, and go on vacation once a year"

    it's not an opulent amount of wealth believe it or not

    given how many people survive on a fraction of that, pretending it's not a good amount of money, even in expensive places like nyc or san fran seems kind of ridiculous

    i didn't say that

    i said it's not opulent

    it's certainly not lamborghini money

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  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator Mod Emeritus
    bowen wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Like straight up, that's nearly ~$130,000 net pay ($100k in taxes for living in NYC).

    Rent is maybe 3k a month, so for sake of math let's say $30,000 a year for rent.

    Maybe another $1000 a month for incidentals like travel and food, utilities, etc ?

    $48,000.

    You have nearly $90,000 a year extra to just piss away.

    As a single earner.

    That's not "well off" that's "wealthy".

    why would you rent?

    If you're really smart, you live like a pauper in NYC for 10-15 years. Get the cheapest rent, bank all your extra cash, invest it. Leave off home cooked meals, ride a bike to work.

    Then, 10-15 years later, you retire and move to some state with a low CoL where you can drop $200,000 on a house and buy it outright and pay $1500 a year for the rest of your life in taxes.

    Then your bills work out to something like $150 a month for taxes and $1000 for just general quality of life living. If you worked in NYC and banked $100,000 in wages a year in a savings account (not even invested it) you'd have 1.5 million (roughly).

    It would take you 750 months at 2000 a month to go through that. Or, 62.5 years.

    You'd earn something like $100,000 a year in interest at 7%

    You could split that in half, and reinvest it right back in, and still live very comfortably.

    if you are okay with living a low CoL place the trick is to get a tech job in boston or norcal, then ease into a telecommute role and move to cincinnati or dallas or wherever.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Fürstenfeldbruck sounds like the German word for bumblefucking nowhere

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Gooey wrote: »
    like, 230k in most places is "i can buy a house in a nice neighborhood, drive a mid level car, and go on vacation once a year"

    it's not an opulent amount of wealth believe it or not
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    like, 230k in most places is "i can buy a house in a nice neighborhood, drive a mid level car, and go on vacation once a year"

    it's not an opulent amount of wealth believe it or not

    given how many people survive on a fraction of that, pretending it's not a good amount of money, even in expensive places like nyc or san fran seems kind of ridiculous

    that's not what we're saying though

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  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    how about butts instead

    230k butts is a lot of butts.

    Whippy wrote: »
    nope nope nope nope abort abort talk about anime
    I like to ART
  • Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    talking about money usually is the worst chat

    poo
  • CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    edited April 2015
    on second thoughts

    edited to remove rage

    i should not do this conversation

    Casual on
  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Like straight up, that's nearly ~$130,000 net pay ($100k in taxes for living in NYC).

    Rent is maybe 3k a month, so for sake of math let's say $30,000 a year for rent.

    Maybe another $1000 a month for incidentals like travel and food, utilities, etc ?

    $48,000.

    You have nearly $90,000 a year extra to just piss away.

    As a single earner.

    That's not "well off" that's "wealthy".

    why would you rent?

    If you're really smart, you live like a pauper in NYC for 10-15 years. Get the cheapest rent, bank all your extra cash, invest it. Leave off home cooked meals, ride a bike to work.

    Then, 10-15 years later, you retire and move to some state with a low CoL where you can drop $200,000 on a house and buy it outright and pay $1500 a year for the rest of your life in taxes.

    Then your bills work out to something like $150 a month for taxes and $1000 for just general quality of life living. If you worked in NYC and banked $100,000 in wages a year in a savings account (not even invested it) you'd have 1.5 million (roughly).

    It would take you 750 months at 2000 a month to go through that. Or, 62.5 years.

    You'd earn something like $100,000 a year in interest at 7%

    You could split that in half, and reinvest it right back in, and still live very comfortably.

    most people in NYC are insufferable about the thought of living anywhere else tho :)

    It's the person more than anything.

    City living drives me bonkers.

    I hate it.

    I hate the smell.

    I hate the sounds.

    I hate dealing with people, even if we're not interacting, the sheer level of people in urban centers just makes me anxious.

    I would be perfectly happy living in a shack in the woods (with internet) and dealing with people once a month.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • GimGim a tall glass of water Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    Podly wrote: »

    that jenga one

    did you notice that, other than the first image, if there's a POC in the photo, that is the person smoking the weed

    Well

    to be fair


    Jenga is best enjoyed while high

  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Deebaser wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    like, 230k in most places is "i can buy a house in a nice neighborhood, drive a mid level car, and go on vacation once a year"

    it's not an opulent amount of wealth believe it or not

    it will put you on a good path with no financial worries and a secure retirement, but it's hardly popping bottles of champ on the deck of your yacht.

    my dad earns a little under that

    popping bottles of champ on the deck of his yacht is one of his favourite activities

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  • Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    edited April 2015
    Haphazard wrote: »
    Donkey Kong the hell are you doing in Fürstenfeldbruck? What even is there?

    The only non-booked hotel in a one hour radius of where I actually need to be.

    And for your information there is a rad monastery here.

    Donkey Kong on
    Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
  • AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Atomika wrote: »
    I feel needy and bad about being needy

    I'm not sure there's a fix for that

    be less needy!

    also less bad!

    and feel better!

    it's all so simple!

    "Why don't you try not feeling this way?" is advice I've gotten waaaay too often by real live human beings.

  • Kid PresentableKid Presentable Registered User regular
    Atomika wrote: »
    I feel needy and bad about being needy

    I'm not sure there's a fix for that

    Have you tried abandoning your own personal needs entirely, turning yourself into a martyr of fragile, unfulfilled selflessness?

    Tip from a friend.

  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Gim wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    Podly wrote: »

    that jenga one

    did you notice that, other than the first image, if there's a POC in the photo, that is the person smoking the weed

    Well

    to be fair


    Jenga is best enjoyed while high

    this is madness

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
  • kaleeditykaleedity Sometimes science is more art than science Registered User regular
    I know tons of people that spent a year+ value of income on their car

  • Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    not a money post but

    our vp of tech lives in iowa

    poo
  • Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    i am so bored about chats about money and about the advantages/disadvantages of living in certain places vs other places

    poo
  • AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    Atomika wrote: »
    I feel needy and bad about being needy

    I'm not sure there's a fix for that

    Have you tried abandoning your own personal needs entirely, turning yourself into a martyr of fragile, unfulfilled selflessness?

    Tip from a friend.

    Oh, I've tried that plenty

    That's kinda my primary MO

  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    but that's because the yacht is split with another family and they've stayed in the first house they bought so that loan stopped costing them money ages ago and he stuck with the ten year old nissan instead of going all typically midlife crisis and buying a sports car

    basically it is nice to get old and established because you get more and more money

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Most families have two earners pulling in 30k a piece, maybe. That's why the median income is "household income" and not "single earner".

    So when you see the median income for your area is 45k and you're pulling in more than that, realize that they're factoring in a household there (sometimes it's single earners, most times its not, even if it's just cohabiting). You're ahead of the curve.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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