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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    The Vision was excellent. That moment where he hands Thor the hammer as everybody looks on in stunned silence has to be my favorite moment in the entire film.

    Could not ask for a more perfect way to get everybody on his side in the midst of all the AI murderbot insanity.

    Dude, that was amazing.
    Vision seems like a very, very interesting character. I really wished he had gotten more screentime. I did like how he imitated Thor's cape and armor.

    In regards to the hammer, that is 3 previous movies making sure to show that NOBODY can pick the thing up unless they are "worthy". Then bam, Vision comes along and is all here ya go. Well balanced!

    Super geeky comic reference:
    Lots of robots have picked up Thor's hammer in the comic's and it doesn't mean they're worthy. So that was kind of a two-fer great scene while a nod and a wink to the comic crowd.

    I don't think they're using that exception in the MCU and they just lampshade the hell out of it with the last Tony/Cap/Thor scene.

    I think they might have been implying
    Vision was worthy of something. It was a trusting moment.

    Yeah, "IF IT'S IN AN ELEVATOR" made me chuckle. They really hit the humor on this one.

  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    The Vision was excellent. That moment where he hands Thor the hammer as everybody looks on in stunned silence has to be my favorite moment in the entire film.

    Could not ask for a more perfect way to get everybody on his side in the midst of all the AI murderbot insanity.

    Dude, that was amazing.
    Vision seems like a very, very interesting character. I really wished he had gotten more screentime. I did like how he imitated Thor's cape and armor.

    In regards to the hammer, that is 3 previous movies making sure to show that NOBODY can pick the thing up unless they are "worthy". Then bam, Vision comes along and is all here ya go. Well balanced!

    Super geeky comic reference:
    Lots of robots have picked up Thor's hammer in the comic's and it doesn't mean they're worthy. So that was kind of a two-fer great scene while a nod and a wink to the comic crowd.

    I don't think they're using that exception in the MCU and they just lampshade the hell out of it with the last Tony/Cap/Thor scene.

    I think they might have been implying
    Vision was worthy of something. It was a trusting moment.

    Yeah, "IF IT'S IN AN ELEVATOR" made me chuckle. They really hit the humor on this one.
    I thought about it possibly having something to do with him being a machine but I prefer the idea that The Vision is pure.

    Basically that he has a soul and its noble and honorable through and through.

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    The Vision was excellent. That moment where he hands Thor the hammer as everybody looks on in stunned silence has to be my favorite moment in the entire film.

    Could not ask for a more perfect way to get everybody on his side in the midst of all the AI murderbot insanity.

    Dude, that was amazing.
    Vision seems like a very, very interesting character. I really wished he had gotten more screentime. I did like how he imitated Thor's cape and armor.

    In regards to the hammer, that is 3 previous movies making sure to show that NOBODY can pick the thing up unless they are "worthy". Then bam, Vision comes along and is all here ya go. Well balanced!

    Super geeky comic reference:
    Lots of robots have picked up Thor's hammer in the comic's and it doesn't mean they're worthy. So that was kind of a two-fer great scene while a nod and a wink to the comic crowd.

    I don't think they're using that exception in the MCU and they just lampshade the hell out of it with the last Tony/Cap/Thor scene.

    I think they might have been implying
    Vision was worthy of something. It was a trusting moment.

    Yeah, "IF IT'S IN AN ELEVATOR" made me chuckle. They really hit the humor on this one.
    Oh, MCU-wise I definitely think Vision is worthy. I'm gonna defer to Thor on that one since he's just about the only character besides Odin who'd have a chance at knowing.

    Also something that hit me this morning about Vision and future shenanigans:
    So, entirely artificial life form that was created at adulthood with an infinity gem in his forehead....is he our Adam Warlock stand in?

    I certainly have trouble seeing them bring in actual Adam Warlock with his origin being so close to MCU Vision.

    Nod. Get treat. PSN: Quippish
  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Anyone else happy on Caps treatment?
    He felt like a leader and not the underpowered fish out of water he was in the first Avengers film.

  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    To echo earlier sentiments, one of the things I love about this film is just how relentlessly heroic and hopeful it is.

    The Avengers theme instills that nicely aswell.

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  • SpawnbrokerSpawnbroker Registered User regular
    Anyone else happy on Caps treatment?
    He felt like a leader and not the underpowered fish out of water he was in the first Avengers film.

    They fixed that since Captain America 2. The entire first 10 minutes of that movie is the Captain just running a train on a boat full of soldiers, doing superhuman kicks and shit.

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  • SteevSteev What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    My wife and I laughed at an early scene with Tony:
    He breaks into von Strucker's fortress and, in a scene reminiscent of the first Iron Man movie, a bunch of Hydra dudes fire at him with no effect. Tony chastises them, and then incapacitates everyone.

    Tony: Good talk.
    Injured Hydra guy: No, it wasn't!

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    Ninjeff wrote: »
    I suspect it was a "gentlemans" agreement between Fox and Marvel. Fox can have fun with Quicksilver, and Marvel gets Scarlet Witch without messy ties to another franchise thats a Marvel property but NOT a MCU property and how confusing all that would be for the layman.
    Marvel's the winner in that deal - Wanda's the better character.

    Harry Dresden on
  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Naphtali wrote: »
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    I guess Quicksilver's death was just one big FU to FOX?

    It was really weird seeing Hawkeye crack a joke about having a long day while staring at the corpse of Pietro.

    Its a shame, he was actually much funner and well done than Wanda who kind of had cheesy red visuals effects and just stood around looking sad. The wrong twin survived, it feels like.

    Quicksilver
    I think its the opposite, Fox and Marvel probably agreed to only use the character in one film each. So Whedon disposed of him.

    Besides, its comic books. Its not like they can't bring him back to life through bullshit later on...
    TAHITI is a magical place.

  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    Naphtali wrote: »
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    I guess Quicksilver's death was just one big FU to FOX?

    It was really weird seeing Hawkeye crack a joke about having a long day while staring at the corpse of Pietro.

    Its a shame, he was actually much funner and well done than Wanda who kind of had cheesy red visuals effects and just stood around looking sad. The wrong twin survived, it feels like.

    Quicksilver
    I think its the opposite, Fox and Marvel probably agreed to only use the character in one film each. So Whedon disposed of him.

    Besides, its comic books. Its not like they can't bring him back to life through bullshit later on...
    TAHITI is a magical place.
    That thing got destroyed, though.

  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    I loved this but there's literally a scene where they focus on a canister of Shaving cream and two characters talk in a doorway of to the right. It was vile.

    You're being hyperbolic. The characters talking are the only thing in focus during that scene. That being said, it was definitely product placement. I just don't think it was as egregious as what you're saying.

  • BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    The only product placement that seemed really noticeable to me was the
    "Hello, Deere" part.

    Everything else just sort of faded into the background.

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    The Vision was excellent. That moment where he hands Thor the hammer as everybody looks on in stunned silence has to be my favorite moment in the entire film.

    Could not ask for a more perfect way to get everybody on his side in the midst of all the AI murderbot insanity.

    Dude, that was amazing.
    Vision seems like a very, very interesting character. I really wished he had gotten more screentime. I did like how he imitated Thor's cape and armor.

    In regards to the hammer, that is 3 previous movies making sure to show that NOBODY can pick the thing up unless they are "worthy". Then bam, Vision comes along and is all here ya go. Well balanced!

    Super geeky comic reference:
    Lots of robots have picked up Thor's hammer in the comic's and it doesn't mean they're worthy. So that was kind of a two-fer great scene while a nod and a wink to the comic crowd.

    I don't think they're using that exception in the MCU and they just lampshade the hell out of it with the last Tony/Cap/Thor scene.

    I think they might have been implying
    Vision was worthy of something. It was a trusting moment.

    Yeah, "IF IT'S IN AN ELEVATOR" made me chuckle. They really hit the humor on this one.
    Oh, MCU-wise I definitely think Vision is worthy. I'm gonna defer to Thor on that one since he's just about the only character besides Odin who'd have a chance at knowing.

    Also something that hit me this morning about Vision and future shenanigans:
    So, entirely artificial life form that was created at adulthood with an infinity gem in his forehead....is he our Adam Warlock stand in?

    I certainly have trouble seeing them bring in actual Adam Warlock with his origin being so close to MCU Vision.
    I get the same feeling, Vision even came from a sort of "cacoon." He's got a whole Dr.Manhattan vibe, when in the comics he was an android J'onn Jonz. Can't believe they set up the romance with Scarlet Witch too. I don't think they missed anything important for Civil War or Infinite Wars.

    Dr. Cho was a worthy addition to the cast. I want to see more of her in the MCU, please. She's awesome.

    Harry Dresden on
  • DelmainDelmain Registered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    The Vision was excellent. That moment where he hands Thor the hammer as everybody looks on in stunned silence has to be my favorite moment in the entire film.

    Could not ask for a more perfect way to get everybody on his side in the midst of all the AI murderbot insanity.

    Dude, that was amazing.
    Vision seems like a very, very interesting character. I really wished he had gotten more screentime. I did like how he imitated Thor's cape and armor.

    In regards to the hammer, that is 3 previous movies making sure to show that NOBODY can pick the thing up unless they are "worthy". Then bam, Vision comes along and is all here ya go. Well balanced!

    Super geeky comic reference:
    Lots of robots have picked up Thor's hammer in the comic's and it doesn't mean they're worthy. So that was kind of a two-fer great scene while a nod and a wink to the comic crowd.

    I don't think they're using that exception in the MCU and they just lampshade the hell out of it with the last Tony/Cap/Thor scene.

    I think they might have been implying
    Vision was worthy of something. It was a trusting moment.

    Yeah, "IF IT'S IN AN ELEVATOR" made me chuckle. They really hit the humor on this one.
    Oh, MCU-wise I definitely think Vision is worthy. I'm gonna defer to Thor on that one since he's just about the only character besides Odin who'd have a chance at knowing.

    Also something that hit me this morning about Vision and future shenanigans:
    So, entirely artificial life form that was created at adulthood with an infinity gem in his forehead....is he our Adam Warlock stand in?

    I certainly have trouble seeing them bring in actual Adam Warlock with his origin being so close to MCU Vision.
    I get the same feeling, Vision even came from a sort of "cacoon." He's got a whole Dr.Manhattan vibe, when in the comics he was an android J'onn Jonz. Can't believe they set up the romance with Scarlet Witch too. I don't think they missed anything important for Civil War or Infinite Wars.

    Dr. Cho was a worthy addition to the cast. I want to see more of her in the MCU, please. She's awesome.

    Re: the bolded

    What? Did I miss something?

  • NocrenNocren Lt Futz, Back in Action North CarolinaRegistered User regular
    Burnage wrote: »
    The only product placement that seemed really noticeable to me was the
    "Hello, Deere" part.

    Everything else just sort of faded into the background.

    The Gillette edge shaving cream being large and in frame (though out of focus) I thought was pretty bad.

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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Nocren wrote: »
    Burnage wrote: »
    The only product placement that seemed really noticeable to me was the
    "Hello, Deere" part.

    Everything else just sort of faded into the background.

    The Gillette edge shaving cream being large and in frame (though out of focus) I thought was pretty bad.

    Didn't even notice.

    You must have a hawk eye.

  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    Delmain wrote: »
    Re: the bolded

    What? Did I miss something?
    They get married in the comics. Don't think I really noticed anything about that in the movie.

  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    Delmain wrote: »
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    The Vision was excellent. That moment where he hands Thor the hammer as everybody looks on in stunned silence has to be my favorite moment in the entire film.

    Could not ask for a more perfect way to get everybody on his side in the midst of all the AI murderbot insanity.

    Dude, that was amazing.
    Vision seems like a very, very interesting character. I really wished he had gotten more screentime. I did like how he imitated Thor's cape and armor.

    In regards to the hammer, that is 3 previous movies making sure to show that NOBODY can pick the thing up unless they are "worthy". Then bam, Vision comes along and is all here ya go. Well balanced!

    Super geeky comic reference:
    Lots of robots have picked up Thor's hammer in the comic's and it doesn't mean they're worthy. So that was kind of a two-fer great scene while a nod and a wink to the comic crowd.

    I don't think they're using that exception in the MCU and they just lampshade the hell out of it with the last Tony/Cap/Thor scene.

    I think they might have been implying
    Vision was worthy of something. It was a trusting moment.

    Yeah, "IF IT'S IN AN ELEVATOR" made me chuckle. They really hit the humor on this one.
    Oh, MCU-wise I definitely think Vision is worthy. I'm gonna defer to Thor on that one since he's just about the only character besides Odin who'd have a chance at knowing.

    Also something that hit me this morning about Vision and future shenanigans:
    So, entirely artificial life form that was created at adulthood with an infinity gem in his forehead....is he our Adam Warlock stand in?

    I certainly have trouble seeing them bring in actual Adam Warlock with his origin being so close to MCU Vision.
    I get the same feeling, Vision even came from a sort of "cacoon." He's got a whole Dr.Manhattan vibe, when in the comics he was an android J'onn Jonz. Can't believe they set up the romance with Scarlet Witch too. I don't think they missed anything important for Civil War or Infinite Wars.

    Dr. Cho was a worthy addition to the cast. I want to see more of her in the MCU, please. She's awesome.

    Re: the bolded

    What? Did I miss something?
    I assume he's referring to Wanda sort of being in wonder of how she could read The Vision's mind and then later being rescued by him.

    They were married at one point in the comic books.

    Dr. Chaos on
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  • DelmainDelmain Registered User regular
    I know about the comics. I didn't see anything in the movie about it and I thought Harry Dresden was talking about something he'd seen and I hadn't.

    Thanks!

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Delmain wrote: »
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    The Vision was excellent. That moment where he hands Thor the hammer as everybody looks on in stunned silence has to be my favorite moment in the entire film.

    Could not ask for a more perfect way to get everybody on his side in the midst of all the AI murderbot insanity.

    Dude, that was amazing.
    Vision seems like a very, very interesting character. I really wished he had gotten more screentime. I did like how he imitated Thor's cape and armor.

    In regards to the hammer, that is 3 previous movies making sure to show that NOBODY can pick the thing up unless they are "worthy". Then bam, Vision comes along and is all here ya go. Well balanced!

    Super geeky comic reference:
    Lots of robots have picked up Thor's hammer in the comic's and it doesn't mean they're worthy. So that was kind of a two-fer great scene while a nod and a wink to the comic crowd.

    I don't think they're using that exception in the MCU and they just lampshade the hell out of it with the last Tony/Cap/Thor scene.

    I think they might have been implying
    Vision was worthy of something. It was a trusting moment.

    Yeah, "IF IT'S IN AN ELEVATOR" made me chuckle. They really hit the humor on this one.
    Oh, MCU-wise I definitely think Vision is worthy. I'm gonna defer to Thor on that one since he's just about the only character besides Odin who'd have a chance at knowing.

    Also something that hit me this morning about Vision and future shenanigans:
    So, entirely artificial life form that was created at adulthood with an infinity gem in his forehead....is he our Adam Warlock stand in?

    I certainly have trouble seeing them bring in actual Adam Warlock with his origin being so close to MCU Vision.
    I get the same feeling, Vision even came from a sort of "cacoon." He's got a whole Dr.Manhattan vibe, when in the comics he was an android J'onn Jonz. Can't believe they set up the romance with Scarlet Witch too. I don't think they missed anything important for Civil War or Infinite Wars.

    Dr. Cho was a worthy addition to the cast. I want to see more of her in the MCU, please. She's awesome.

    Re: the bolded

    What? Did I miss something?
    When Vision rescued Wanda before the city exploded. It was brief, but it was there.

  • BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    Delmain wrote: »
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    The Vision was excellent. That moment where he hands Thor the hammer as everybody looks on in stunned silence has to be my favorite moment in the entire film.

    Could not ask for a more perfect way to get everybody on his side in the midst of all the AI murderbot insanity.

    Dude, that was amazing.
    Vision seems like a very, very interesting character. I really wished he had gotten more screentime. I did like how he imitated Thor's cape and armor.

    In regards to the hammer, that is 3 previous movies making sure to show that NOBODY can pick the thing up unless they are "worthy". Then bam, Vision comes along and is all here ya go. Well balanced!

    Super geeky comic reference:
    Lots of robots have picked up Thor's hammer in the comic's and it doesn't mean they're worthy. So that was kind of a two-fer great scene while a nod and a wink to the comic crowd.

    I don't think they're using that exception in the MCU and they just lampshade the hell out of it with the last Tony/Cap/Thor scene.

    I think they might have been implying
    Vision was worthy of something. It was a trusting moment.

    Yeah, "IF IT'S IN AN ELEVATOR" made me chuckle. They really hit the humor on this one.
    Oh, MCU-wise I definitely think Vision is worthy. I'm gonna defer to Thor on that one since he's just about the only character besides Odin who'd have a chance at knowing.

    Also something that hit me this morning about Vision and future shenanigans:
    So, entirely artificial life form that was created at adulthood with an infinity gem in his forehead....is he our Adam Warlock stand in?

    I certainly have trouble seeing them bring in actual Adam Warlock with his origin being so close to MCU Vision.
    I get the same feeling, Vision even came from a sort of "cacoon." He's got a whole Dr.Manhattan vibe, when in the comics he was an android J'onn Jonz. Can't believe they set up the romance with Scarlet Witch too. I don't think they missed anything important for Civil War or Infinite Wars.

    Dr. Cho was a worthy addition to the cast. I want to see more of her in the MCU, please. She's awesome.

    Re: the bolded

    What? Did I miss something?
    When Vision rescued Wanda before the city exploded. It was brief, but it was there.

    Pretty sure she was also
    gazing at him sort-of-lustfully at one point in the Avengers tower.

  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    Ninjeff wrote: »
    I suspect it was a "gentlemans" agreement between Fox and Marvel. Fox can have fun with Quicksilver, and Marvel gets Scarlet Witch without messy ties to another franchise thats a Marvel property but NOT a MCU property and how confusing all that would be for the layman.
    Marvel's the winner in that deal - Wanda's the better character.

    Super double false.


    One thing I hope the Russos/Marvel take note though is that with the team dynamic
    6 is the limit on characters I think. This movie moved that to 10 and it was straining in terms of who got what time on top of the villain and the supporting cast. Especially when you have four character on the NA team now that need to be fleshed out more, and that's before you add in BP or CM or Spidey. You throw in Spidey alone and what he requires as Marvel's most popular character, that's a chunk of character that eats into the movie pie.

    This is also why the teams in the comics are for the most part 6ish members per issue/run (and also don't have to deal with a 2.5 hour max time).

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Ninjeff wrote: »
    I suspect it was a "gentlemans" agreement between Fox and Marvel. Fox can have fun with Quicksilver, and Marvel gets Scarlet Witch without messy ties to another franchise thats a Marvel property but NOT a MCU property and how confusing all that would be for the layman.
    Marvel's the winner in that deal - Wanda's the better character.

    Super double false.

    I was going to ask why then I saw who posted this. Right, it's Texiken. :)
    One thing I hope the Russos/Marvel take note though is that with the team dynamic
    6 is the limit on characters I think. This movie moved that to 10 and it was straining in terms of who got what time on top of the villain and the supporting cast. Especially when you have four character on the NA team now that need to be fleshed out more, and that's before you add in BP or CM or Spidey. You throw in Spidey alone and what he requires as Marvel's most popular character, that's a chunk of character that eats into the movie pie.

    This is also why the teams in the comics are for the most part 6ish members per issue/run (and also don't have to deal with a 2.5 hour max time).
    The New Avenger roster is: Cap, SW, Vision, WM, Black Widow and Falcon - that's 6. 7 with Spider-man, not thats it's guaranteed he'll be a permanent member. Iron Man, Thor and Hawkeye left. The New Avengers will get fleshed out in Civil War, which is an unofficial Avengers movie. I don't expect that roster to stay solid in that, and who knows what they'll do for IW, which is rumored to be split into two teams. It'll be good practice for the Russo's before they direct Infinite Wars.

  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    All of the praise in here is making me hopeful, especially after the lackluster review the AV Club gave it. (Not that I agree with them more than half the time anyway, but they loved the first Avengers.)

    I figure all the opening night viewers in here are probably closer to my mentality, so...

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Ninjeff wrote: »
    I suspect it was a "gentlemans" agreement between Fox and Marvel. Fox can have fun with Quicksilver, and Marvel gets Scarlet Witch without messy ties to another franchise thats a Marvel property but NOT a MCU property and how confusing all that would be for the layman.
    Marvel's the winner in that deal - Wanda's the better character.

    Super double false.

    I was going to ask why then I saw who posted this. Right, it's Texiken. :)

    Irrefutable!
    Quicksilver has more character than Wanda. This is why in the comics Wanda usually has stuff that revolves around her powers and being a vessel or chosen one or the key to defeating the villain of the month (much like how in X-Men every villain always wants to make Storm their bride).

    Pietro always has that arrogance and the known instances of him turning out like his father that can play off someone like Cap or Falcon really well in the movies. He would be the movie version of comic Hawkeye, basically.

  • DiplominatorDiplominator Hardcore Porg Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    Burnage wrote: »
    The only product placement that seemed really noticeable to me was the
    "Hello, Deere" part.

    Everything else just sort of faded into the background.

    ...

    Wow.

    Just got that.

    Diplominator on
  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    TexiKen wrote: »
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Ninjeff wrote: »
    I suspect it was a "gentlemans" agreement between Fox and Marvel. Fox can have fun with Quicksilver, and Marvel gets Scarlet Witch without messy ties to another franchise thats a Marvel property but NOT a MCU property and how confusing all that would be for the layman.
    Marvel's the winner in that deal - Wanda's the better character.

    Super double false.

    I was going to ask why then I saw who posted this. Right, it's Texiken. :)

    Irrefutable!
    Quicksilver has more character than Wanda. This is why in the comics Wanda usually has stuff that revolves around her powers and being a vessel or chosen one or the key to defeating the villain of the month (much like how in X-Men every villain always wants to make Storm their bride).

    Pietro always has that arrogance and the known instances of him turning out like his father that can play off someone like Cap or Falcon really well in the movies. He would be the movie version of comic Hawkeye, basically.
    Have you read Busiek's Avengers? That's how I became a Wanda fan. Wanda doesn't get those story lines any more than other people do. She also has a legitimate reason to be a savior since her powers, as a mutant Inhuman and sorcerer allow her to a key in stopping villains - just like Iron man and Thor do. Cap does it himself sometimes.

  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    TexiKen wrote: »
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Ninjeff wrote: »
    I suspect it was a "gentlemans" agreement between Fox and Marvel. Fox can have fun with Quicksilver, and Marvel gets Scarlet Witch without messy ties to another franchise thats a Marvel property but NOT a MCU property and how confusing all that would be for the layman.
    Marvel's the winner in that deal - Wanda's the better character.

    Super double false.

    I was going to ask why then I saw who posted this. Right, it's Texiken. :)

    Irrefutable!
    Quicksilver has more character than Wanda. This is why in the comics Wanda usually has stuff that revolves around her powers and being a vessel or chosen one or the key to defeating the villain of the month (much like how in X-Men every villain always wants to make Storm their bride).

    Pietro always has that arrogance and the known instances of him turning out like his father that can play off someone like Cap or Falcon really well in the movies. He would be the movie version of comic Hawkeye, basically.
    Have you read Busiek's Avengers? That's how I became a Wanda fan. Wanda doesn't get those story lines any more than other people do. She also has a legitimate reason to be a savior since her powers, as a mutant Inhuman and sorcerer allow her to a key in stopping villains - just like Iron man and Thor do. Cap does it himself sometimes.
    absolutely, Busiek's run is one of the best, only Hickman's is better.

    But if you look at that run, time after time it's only about Wanda's powers saving the day, she thinks she might not be able too but oops she pulls through and saves the day, he repeated that a lot during the run, and he's one of the best comic writers in the industry. But it's not just him, Byrne, Bendis (copying Byrne), Remender, Thomas, Harras, she only ever broke free of this when she was in Force Works because she was co-leader and was less magic and more hexbolts because the 90's were all about the 'tude.

    Look at how most of Wanda's stories involve her going crazy and doing lasting damage, as opposed to Pietro being a dick to everyone then trying to be a father and husband and then having a whole new group of people to be dicks to in X-Factor.

    But anyway, that's comics, but there's something there for the movies to pick up on, and I don't know if Fox is even using Pietro in the new movie.

  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    I just have to say

    I had the joy of sitting behind someone who did a mad cackle after every line was delivered.

    Lines where no one else was laughing in the theater. Lines where some folks gave a chuckle. Every line

    HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    line

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    i think i enjoyed the movie. maybe. i can't remember.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    Whats up with the Gem colors?
    Are they messed up or have Capcom and Zen Pinball been lying to me all this time?

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    All of the praise in here is making me hopeful, especially after the lackluster review the AV Club gave it. (Not that I agree with them more than half the time anyway, but they loved the first Avengers.)

    I figure all the opening night viewers in here are probably closer to my mentality, so...

    There's definitely some fridge logic stuff but it was a good hour or two before they came to mind which is basically my only requirement for that stuff.

    Characterizations are spot on, fun action and an actually interesting threat beyond "My doomsday device!"

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  • DangerbirdDangerbird Registered User regular
    Caught the first showing today and have to say I liked it alot, though I agree it felt a bit rushed in parts, especially with how they introduced Ultron. I can't wait to see what was trimmed when they release the extended cut.
    I adore the MCU but I admit I'm not much of a comic book guy beyond that. One thing that kind of took me out of the movie was when "Vision" showed up. I had no idea who the hell this purple face dude was, so I was a bit confused, but just went with it. Is he a major player in the Marvel universe because this was literally the first time I've ever heard of him. After the movie ended, I was quite eager to get home and do a google search to get filled in. I guess they could have explained it a bit better for comic book noobs like me.

  • SqueezeSqueeze Registered User regular
    Romance would be a lot harder to buy into if Marvel didn't cast such great fits for the characters.

    ...it's kind of odd when I am treated to male shirtless scenes and find myself nodding my head in approval.

  • RT800RT800 Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    I kind of liked
    that Ultron decided who he was and what he was meant to do so quickly.

    I mean, he's an AI. Basically a super-intelligent computer running on the world's most advanced hardware. The fact that he was be able to analyze his existence and reach a conclusion as to his purpose in mere seconds (regardless of how warped that conclusion may be) seems appropriate.

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  • cr0wcr0w Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    The first hour was bad enough that I fell asleep three times. Maybe not bad, actually, but it was just boring, which is worse. Everything until they head to
    Hawkeye's farm

    Was just more of the same. Thankfully, the second half was good enough to make up for it. Vision was a revelation.

    I will say, though, that I'm absolutely sick of Tony, and the MCU would be so much better off without him at this point.

  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Dangerbird wrote: »
    Caught the first showing today and have to say I liked it alot, though I agree it felt a bit rushed in parts, especially with how they introduced Ultron. I can't wait to see what was trimmed when they release the extended cut.
    I adore the MCU but I admit I'm not much of a comic book guy beyond that. One thing that kind of took me out of the movie was when "Vision" showed up. I had no idea who the hell this purple face dude was, so I was a bit confused, but just went with it. Is he a major player in the Marvel universe because this was literally the first time I've ever heard of him. After the movie ended, I was quite eager to get home and do a google search to get filled in. I guess they could have explained it a bit better for comic book noobs like me.

    Vision in the comics is a very big deal. Well see how the MCU will flesh him out.

  • DangerbirdDangerbird Registered User regular
    RT800 wrote: »
    I kind of liked
    that Ultron decided who he was and what he was meant to do so quickly.

    I mean, he's an AI. Basically a super-intelligent computer running on the world's most advance hardware. The fact that he was be able to analyze his existence and reach a conclusion as to his purpose in mere seconds (regardless of how warped that conclusion may be) seems appropriate.
    Within the in movie universe, that logic makes sense.

    But in the context of telling a story, even 5-10 more minutes of exposition / debate between Banner and Stark would have made a big difference.

    But your reasoning is pretty much how I explained it to myself too.

  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    I think Vision
    not being fleshed out too much in AoU isn't too big of a deal. He doesn't even know himself, he's a day old. I wish we had more screen time with him, but it should be great in Cap 3.

  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    Dangerbird wrote: »
    Caught the first showing today and have to say I liked it alot, though I agree it felt a bit rushed in parts, especially with how they introduced Ultron. I can't wait to see what was trimmed when they release the extended cut.
    I adore the MCU but I admit I'm not much of a comic book guy beyond that. One thing that kind of took me out of the movie was when "Vision" showed up. I had no idea who the hell this purple face dude was, so I was a bit confused, but just went with it. Is he a major player in the Marvel universe because this was literally the first time I've ever heard of him. After the movie ended, I was quite eager to get home and do a google search to get filled in. I guess they could have explained it a bit better for comic book noobs like me.
    in the context of the film, I think they did a pretty decent job of introducing The Vision.
    In AOU, they explain that Ultron keeps upgrading but keeps a humanish appearance, he wants to become an evolved being, the model of what he believes should rule the earth and he sought to do that by creating The Vision which he intended to place his mind into. Vision was intended to be his ultimate form becuase thats what he saw as the superior life form, a sort of perfect blend between human and machine to inherit the earth. An extremely sophisticated android that sort of blurs the line.

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