I can totally imagine a tank getting seriously disabled by getting slammed by two bus-sized giant redwood logs but then the question becomes how did ewoks get those logs set up like that with primitive tools and tiny little bodies in less than a day, near to the imperial facility without being spotted before the battle began
it was midichlorians, I bet
The ewoks already had defenses like that set up because there are enormous fucking predators on the moon. That's also why they live in villages suspended high up in the trees.
I can totally imagine a tank getting seriously disabled by getting slammed by two bus-sized giant redwood logs but then the question becomes how did ewoks get those logs set up like that with primitive tools and tiny little bodies in less than a day, near to the imperial facility without being spotted before the battle began
it was midichlorians, I bet
The ewoks already had defenses like that set up because there are enormous fucking predators on the moon
If the clone army is just a bunch of Jango Fett clones, and Boba Fett is the most badass, respected bounty hunter ever who has to be specifically told to not disintegrate his target, then why to the stormtroopers all suck massive shit? And why are some clones super, ridiculously badass like the unit in the Clone Wars mini-series where they took out a droid force in the most badass way possible and rescued a bunch of Jedi masters getting their asses handed to them by Grievous using fucking Commando tactics.
I also hate how, despite being the king kong of all badasses in the cartoon miniseries, every other fight he's in he seems to go down like a bitch. He can fuck up four Jedi using acrobatics and even use his feet to grasp lightsabers but he just gets bitchslapped over and over.
Nurture over nature. Good genes are great and all but ARC troopers go through what is basically special forces training and are thus way more badass than regular clones who just got basic training. And Boba Fett presumably by EP IV has decades of experience being a stone cold killer and has been through all kinds of shit.
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the tartatovsky series was effectively propaganda, but it was also the first time the jedi see grievous
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A galaxy-spanning empire has to have mass-produced everything for their troops.
Mass-produced does not automatically equate to shoddy quality.
Yeah, but I kinda get the impression they got their guns in happy meal boxes. Sort of picture the troopers gun repair kits consisting of that triangle head screwdriver and extra crayons for the placemats. "Damn it soldier, your armor is not supposed to be colored in!"
"But..HE coloured HIS in!"
"Black is not a colour, it's a shade, and besides, he's the boss"
In my head, Stormtroopers are basically the X-tacles from Frisky Dingo.
In fact, now I want to make a cartoon web series about fucking Stormtroopers Machete Squad and their ridiculous hijinks.
If the clone army is just a bunch of Jango Fett clones, and Boba Fett is the most badass, respected bounty hunter ever who has to be specifically told to not disintegrate his target, then why to the stormtroopers all suck massive shit? And why are some clones super, ridiculously badass like the unit in the Clone Wars mini-series where they took out a droid force in the most badass way possible and rescued a bunch of Jedi masters getting their asses handed to them by Grievous using fucking Commando tactics.
I also hate how, despite being the king kong of all badasses in the cartoon miniseries, every other fight he's in he seems to go down like a bitch. He can fuck up four Jedi using acrobatics and even use his feet to grasp lightsabers but he just gets bitchslapped over and over.
storm troopers suck because by the time episode four hits most of the clones died of old age so most of the storm troopers aren't clones. It's cheaper to hire people than it is to grow them, and when you aren't at war you don't need an army of bad asses, you just need warm bodies keeping your will in place
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the tartatovsky series was effectively propaganda, but it was also the first time the jedi see grievous
tactics were developed to beat him in the interim
Uh...no. Just, no.
Grievous beats the everloving shit out of the Jedi when he attacks them again on Coruscant. And each time he fights against Jedi in Lucas' shit, he goes straight for the 4 arm thing and gets a hand hacked off. And you'll note that Grievous is pretty damn amazing at avoiding force attacks from everyone except fucking Mace Windu, who is supposed to be the strongest Jedi Master in terms of combat.
Grievous doesn't even TRY to use fear and intimidation in the Lucas shit. The tartaovsky series has him being explicitly trained in exploiting fear in Jedi. And no, it was most certainly not the first time the Jedi had seen him. His belt of lightsabers are all trophies, implying that he has seen some Jedi but this is probably the first time anybody every survived an encounter with him.
In every fight I have seen of him in the clone wars CGI shit, he just gets babyface wrecked.
EDIT: Hell, he can't even kill a fucking apprentice in the CGI shit.
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Really I'm a fan of any super weapon that just says "fuck energy beams and explosions what if we just took something really heavy and slam it into the target really hard"
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Really I'm a fan of any super weapon that just says "fuck energy beams and explosions what if we just took something really heavy and slam it into the target really hard"
Kinetic weapons were a part of the real Star Wars for a while there. The idea was satellites that would launch power-pole sized rods of tungsten from low earth orbit at whatever target, and by the time they hit the ground they would be travelling at hypersonic speeds and release VAST amounts of energy, similar to a nuclear explosion but without the fallout afterwards.
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Really I'm a fan of any super weapon that just says "fuck energy beams and explosions what if we just took something really heavy and slam it into the target really hard"
Kinetic weapons were a part of the real Star Wars for a while there. The idea was satellites that would launch power-pole sized rods of tungsten from low earth orbit at whatever target, and by the time they hit the ground they would be travelling at hypersonic speeds and release VAST amounts of energy, similar to a nuclear explosion but without the fallout afterwards.
And was designated Project Thor. Cool name, huh?
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Really I'm a fan of any super weapon that just says "fuck energy beams and explosions what if we just took something really heavy and slam it into the target really hard"
Kinetic weapons were a part of the real Star Wars for a while there. The idea was satellites that would launch power-pole sized rods of tungsten from low earth orbit at whatever target, and by the time they hit the ground they would be travelling at hypersonic speeds and release VAST amounts of energy, similar to a nuclear explosion but without the fallout afterwards.
I was about to comment that the little smasher thing that makes a crater would make an actual explosion if it created a crater like that, but yeah.
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Really I'm a fan of any super weapon that just says "fuck energy beams and explosions what if we just took something really heavy and slam it into the target really hard"
Kinetic weapons were a part of the real Star Wars for a while there. The idea was satellites that would launch power-pole sized rods of tungsten from low earth orbit at whatever target, and by the time they hit the ground they would be travelling at hypersonic speeds and release VAST amounts of energy, similar to a nuclear explosion but without the fallout afterwards.
And was designated Project Thor. Cool name, huh?
Also known as "Rods from God"
and yeah, CGI Grievous sucks ass. All he does is the silly twirly sabre thing and then slowly walk towards whoever he's fighting until they do a flip over his head and then run away. That's basically the summary of every encounter with him until that one time he fought Kit Fisto with no legs.
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EDIT: Actually, nix that, skip to 1:30 so you can see him just wreck shit as well.
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Compare that the shit he does in the cartoon to this:
Man, I love the Tartakovsky clone wars so much.
Shaak Ti is pretty much my favorite SW character. Her design is so cool and she survives actual threat Grievous twice
Wow they've still got those frog people around and they still talk like that huh
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Man, I love the Tartakovsky clone wars so much.
Shaak Ti is pretty much my favorite SW character. Her design is so cool and she survives actual threat Grievous twice
The first time she was going to die if the Elite Troops hadn't extracted her.
The second time Grievous intentionally left her alive and tortured her instead of killing her for...reasons?
But Shaak Ti does have a really neat design, yeah.
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And the reason he kept her alive is that she was supposed to appear in episode 3. There's a deleted scene where she is captive in that capital ship they board and grievous executes her in front of anakin.
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rip general grievous, taken out with A Fucking Gun, joining the company of chumps like greedo
Presumably they cut that in favour of R2-D2 comically immolating his foes, blooping and blerping as they writhe in the flames
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And the reason he kept her alive is that she was supposed to appear in episode 3. There's a deleted scene where she is captive in that capital ship they board and grievous executes her in front of anakin.
That's why I said "...reasons." The first encounter, boy howdy, she lasted about 10 seconds.
rip general grievous, taken out with A Fucking Gun, joining the company of chumps like greedo
God, the fact that he died like that pissed me off so much. Especially considering Obi-wan's stance on guns.
EDIT: Especially since he could have used force crush or just yanked the heart out with the force just as easily.
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All I'm hearing is a bunch of nerds annoyed that their favorite character got nerfed.
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Another bad-ass thing about that scene that I just noticed when watching it again is the really great SFX, even if they did sneak a Wilhelm scream in there.
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Because George Lucas wanted a general to be a Jedi-killer, but then also wanted him to be weak beacuse mechanical > organic because of The Force so you have to make him cough to show he's partially organic and wow Lucas is really bad at exploring ideas once he has them
the tartatovsky series was effectively propaganda, but it was also the first time the jedi see grievous
tactics were developed to beat him in the interim
Uh...no. Just, no.
Grievous beats the everloving shit out of the Jedi when he attacks them again on Coruscant. And each time he fights against Jedi in Lucas' shit, he goes straight for the 4 arm thing and gets a hand hacked off. And you'll note that Grievous is pretty damn amazing at avoiding force attacks from everyone except fucking Mace Windu, who is supposed to be the strongest Jedi Master in terms of combat.
Grievous doesn't even TRY to use fear and intimidation in the Lucas shit. The tartaovsky series has him being explicitly trained in exploiting fear in Jedi. And no, it was most certainly not the first time the Jedi had seen him. His belt of lightsabers are all trophies, implying that he has seen some Jedi but this is probably the first time anybody every survived an encounter with him.
In every fight I have seen of him in the clone wars CGI shit, he just gets babyface wrecked.
EDIT: Hell, he can't even kill a fucking apprentice in the CGI shit.
I'm sorry for your loss
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Because George Lucas wanted a general to be a Jedi-killer, but then also wanted him to be weak beacuse mechanical > organic because of The Force so you have to make him cough to show he's partially organic and wow Lucas is really bad at exploring ideas once he has them
If I think 'badass cyborg' in Star Wars, my mind usually goes to Darth Skotia from the Sith Inquisitor story in SWTOR. A guy so tough you'd get creamed if you didn't use a special device to weaken his cyborg-parts when the fight starts. And almost no one believes later you actually killed him.
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The ewoks already had defenses like that set up because there are enormous fucking predators on the moon. That's also why they live in villages suspended high up in the trees.
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You're fucking right there are
Turns out that ship belongs to Emperor Palpatine.
Nurture over nature. Good genes are great and all but ARC troopers go through what is basically special forces training and are thus way more badass than regular clones who just got basic training. And Boba Fett presumably by EP IV has decades of experience being a stone cold killer and has been through all kinds of shit.
tactics were developed to beat him in the interim
Such as.
Using the force.
He isn't force sensitive and is mostly machinery, toss him around like a ragdoll.
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In my head, Stormtroopers are basically the X-tacles from Frisky Dingo.
In fact, now I want to make a cartoon web series about fucking Stormtroopers Machete Squad and their ridiculous hijinks.
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I think the existence of this scene is what makes me the angriest that they retconned the Tartakovsky series away.
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storm troopers suck because by the time episode four hits most of the clones died of old age so most of the storm troopers aren't clones. It's cheaper to hire people than it is to grow them, and when you aren't at war you don't need an army of bad asses, you just need warm bodies keeping your will in place
I am afraid to be happy about this.
The announcement from Lucasfilm doesn't clarify, though again that leaked image could be fake.
http://www.starwars.com/news/christopher-miller-and-phil-lord-to-helm-han-solo-anthology-film
Uh...no. Just, no.
Grievous beats the everloving shit out of the Jedi when he attacks them again on Coruscant. And each time he fights against Jedi in Lucas' shit, he goes straight for the 4 arm thing and gets a hand hacked off. And you'll note that Grievous is pretty damn amazing at avoiding force attacks from everyone except fucking Mace Windu, who is supposed to be the strongest Jedi Master in terms of combat.
Grievous doesn't even TRY to use fear and intimidation in the Lucas shit. The tartaovsky series has him being explicitly trained in exploiting fear in Jedi. And no, it was most certainly not the first time the Jedi had seen him. His belt of lightsabers are all trophies, implying that he has seen some Jedi but this is probably the first time anybody every survived an encounter with him.
In every fight I have seen of him in the clone wars CGI shit, he just gets babyface wrecked.
EDIT: Hell, he can't even kill a fucking apprentice in the CGI shit.
Really I'm a fan of any super weapon that just says "fuck energy beams and explosions what if we just took something really heavy and slam it into the target really hard"
Kinetic weapons were a part of the real Star Wars for a while there. The idea was satellites that would launch power-pole sized rods of tungsten from low earth orbit at whatever target, and by the time they hit the ground they would be travelling at hypersonic speeds and release VAST amounts of energy, similar to a nuclear explosion but without the fallout afterwards.
And was designated Project Thor. Cool name, huh?
I was about to comment that the little smasher thing that makes a crater would make an actual explosion if it created a crater like that, but yeah.
Also known as "Rods from God"
and yeah, CGI Grievous sucks ass. All he does is the silly twirly sabre thing and then slowly walk towards whoever he's fighting until they do a flip over his head and then run away. That's basically the summary of every encounter with him until that one time he fought Kit Fisto with no legs.
Right, he has no defenses against using the force. Just toss him around like a ragdoll. Just beat his ass to death. Oh, wait:
(skip to 2 minutes in)
EDIT: Actually, nix that, skip to 1:30 so you can see him just wreck shit as well.
and
Oh, and worst of all:
Shaak Ti is pretty much my favorite SW character. Her design is so cool and she survives actual threat Grievous twice
The first time she was going to die if the Elite Troops hadn't extracted her.
The second time Grievous intentionally left her alive and tortured her instead of killing her for...reasons?
But Shaak Ti does have a really neat design, yeah.
And the reason he kept her alive is that she was supposed to appear in episode 3. There's a deleted scene where she is captive in that capital ship they board and grievous executes her in front of anakin.
That's why I said "...reasons." The first encounter, boy howdy, she lasted about 10 seconds.
God, the fact that he died like that pissed me off so much. Especially considering Obi-wan's stance on guns.
EDIT: Especially since he could have used force crush or just yanked the heart out with the force just as easily.
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I'm sorry for your loss
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If I think 'badass cyborg' in Star Wars, my mind usually goes to Darth Skotia from the Sith Inquisitor story in SWTOR. A guy so tough you'd get creamed if you didn't use a special device to weaken his cyborg-parts when the fight starts. And almost no one believes later you actually killed him.
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clone wars is a very good series with consistently good writing
it just is not commiserate canon-wise with the tartatovsky series, which is mostly considered propaganda
not to mention, the basic explanation that I gave of tactical development was brushed aside because reasons