There is also the theory that the storm troopers were instructed to have shitty aim/miss constantly in order to let the heroes escape, so they could be followed.
Also that their guns were supposedly mass produced crap compared to what the clone troopers had available.
Let them go, I can maybe see in ANH. What with the whole track them to their base thing. After that, no. Then it's just plot armor.
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Like everyone is aiming from the hip too.
I'm going with there needing to be billions of Stormtroopers to guard a galaxy spanning empire, so they super cut costs on the quality of equipment and training.
A galaxy-spanning empire has to have mass-produced everything for their troops.
Mass-produced does not automatically equate to shoddy quality.
Yeah, but I kinda get the impression they got their guns in happy meal boxes. Sort of picture the troopers gun repair kits consisting of that triangle head screwdriver and extra crayons for the placemats. "Damn it soldier, your armor is not supposed to be colored in!"
"But..HE coloured HIS in!"
"Black is not a colour, it's a shade, and besides, he's the boss"
What's interesting is that it's separate from the Boba Fett movie Josh Trank was attached to
So are they going to start releasing multiple Star Wars movies a year?
2015 is Episode 7
2016 is Rogue One
2017 is Episode 8
2018 is now Young Han Solo.
2019 would logically be Episode 9, so is the Boba Fett movie coming in 2020? Or are we getting two a year one year?
Considering they are are all repurposed 20th century earth weapons...
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I'm going with there needing to be billions of Stormtroopers to guard a galaxy spanning empire, so they super cut costs on the quality of equipment and training.
And yet, Luke and crew could fire theirs just fine and hit people left and right.
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Let them go, I can maybe see in ANH. What with the whole track them to their base thing. After that, no. Then it's just plot armor.
They slaughter their way through Leia's ship and across the surface of Tatooine.
Then on the Death Star, they're supposed to let the heroes go while making it look good. But what about after that?
Well, In ESB, they're super-competent on Hoth. A few get taken out by the Falcon, but they're infantry fighting a starship; this isn't surprising. Then on Cloud City, they're again working on Vader's plan to herd Luke into the carbonite chamber. They don't manage to capture Lando, Leia, and Chewie, but none of those three are slouches in a fight and with Lando they have home-field advantage (quite literally, as he turns the city against them and orders his security forces after them).
In RotJ? They're very good. They kill and capture some Rebels, injure Leia, and slaughter the Ewoks...it's just that the stormtroopers are Americans without camouflage fighting the Viet Cong with Special Forces support. And the Ewoks, you might recall, are vicious little fuckers.
...and that's it.
The meme of stormtroopers being failures as soldiers is a complete falsehood within the realm of the movies.
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They aren't super-competent on Hoth, they had a really good general leading their walkers and had an overwhelming force strike their base of operations.
And in RotJ they only capture the Rebels via an ambush and trap, they don't beat the Ewoks and comparing them to the Viet Cong is a misnomer because the Ewoks had bows and arrows and rocks and Stormtroopers had armor and blasters.
That wasn't Zulu conquering the British. It was just incompetence. And that two boulders could take out an AT-ST when they couldn't take out a tank in the same manner is silly.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
It's "silly" that two enormous tree trunks smashing together at high velocity would destroy the AT-ST's cockpit? It's simple physics.
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Yes, given that they are made of material that is stronger and lighter than steel and can take heavy blaster fire without being destroyed.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
Because blaster fire does not equate to two fucking redwoods coming together.
Do I seriously have to explain how physics works, and why something that can withstand gunfire will still be demolished if two buses run into it from opposite sides?
I can totally imagine a tank getting seriously disabled by getting slammed by two bus-sized giant redwood logs but then the question becomes how did ewoks get those logs set up like that with primitive tools and tiny little bodies in less than a day, near to the imperial facility without being spotted before the battle began
it was midichlorians, I bet
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Because blaster fire does not equate to two fucking redwoods coming together.
Do I seriously have to explain how physics works, and why something that can withstand gunfire will still be demolished if two buses run into it from opposite sides?
It's superheated plasma and they have concussive resistance as well. And nothing that could be held up with vines is going to be as dense as a redwood or as heavy as a bus.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
Because blaster fire does not equate to two fucking redwoods coming together.
Do I seriously have to explain how physics works, and why something that can withstand gunfire will still be demolished if two buses run into it from opposite sides?
It's superheated plasma and they have concussive resistance as well. And nothing that could be held up with vines is going to be as dense as a redwood or as heavy as a bus.
I suppose next you're going to tell us that the imperial walkers were just models and the destruction of the death star occurred on a sound stage in hollywood
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No, I'm going to say that a universe that establishes certain rules should try to stick by them as well as possible.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
No, I'm going to say that a universe that establishes certain rules should try to stick by them as well as possible.
I don't disagree with that sentiment, but the movies themselves never actually say anything about the properties of AT-ST armor other than showing that they can be crushed between two large logs hanging from vines
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The AT-STs were present on Hoth, where they had heavy artillery shooting at them and snowspeeders as well, and they held up.
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Just the haunting steps, the absolute fear of everyone, the fact that he isn't even using all his limbs, the spinning, the fucking use of his legs to dominate, GOD IT'S PERFECT
I forgot this cartoon existed. I really need to watch that. The man deserves so much more work.
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Yeah. Like, Revan's mask is something he took from a Mandalorian anyway, and the Mandalorian "culture" is all based on Boba Fett, and Boba Fett's visor was a reasonably common design of medieval helm visor...so the new bad guy's mask having a similar appearance doesn't necessarily mean anything.
To be fair, Boba Fett was originally supposed to be a "Super" Storm Trooper. So
Just the haunting steps, the absolute fear of everyone, the fact that he isn't even using all his limbs, the spinning, the fucking use of his legs to dominate, GOD IT'S PERFECT
I forgot this cartoon existed. I really need to watch that. The man deserves so much more work.
I can't stop thinking about how amazing the choreography is and how much it puts all the other shit Lucas shat out involving Grievous to shame.
Like when he is fighting the Jedi and he is going back and forth, then switches from using his arms to just using his legs, and standing on his arms.
To when he is non-chalantly fighting one Jedi Master then just grabs a padawan with his foot and just chucks him into the fucking wall so hard it kills him. Yes, it kills him.
The three Saber, one foot stare-off.
How he is just taking out the elite Clone-trooper squad left and right (seriously, watch the whole series. That unit is the king-kong of badass.)
How he is silently waiting on the ceiling after he kills his first guy by jumping on him, then the slow taking out of lightsabers and unlatching of the foot and methodical ambush.
OH FUCK IT IS GREAT
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Given that the AT-ST is a scout type thing and likely primarily encounters blaster fire as a threat, the armor is likely optimized for blaster fire resistance and not structural rigidity to absorb large blunt force. It's likely rare that they're in an environment where that's a threat, and thus the design is not optimized for it.
Assaulting a hardened base in ESB? Yes, they're primarily armor support, as they should be.
Guards on the Deathstar? That's likely the D-teamers, as how often do you actually expect there to be a force to fight INSIDE the death star, as it's designed to blow planets, obviating the need for any ground invasion force. These are the warm bodies of the Empire forces.
I can totally imagine a tank getting seriously disabled by getting slammed by two bus-sized giant redwood logs but then the question becomes how did ewoks get those logs set up like that with primitive tools and tiny little bodies in less than a day, near to the imperial facility without being spotted before the battle began
it was midichlorians, I bet
Humans built the pyramids and Stonehenge....just sayin
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I can totally imagine a tank getting seriously disabled by getting slammed by two bus-sized giant redwood logs but then the question becomes how did ewoks get those logs set up like that with primitive tools and tiny little bodies in less than a day, near to the imperial facility without being spotted before the battle began
it was midichlorians, I bet
Humans built the pyramids and Stonehenge....just sayin
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Rogue One, December 2016
Episode VIII, May 2017 (same month as Guardians Vol. 2)
Han Solo flick, May 2018
Episode IX, 2019
Boba Fett film, I would assume in 2020
"It's all in the reflexes."
There is also the theory that the storm troopers were instructed to have shitty aim/miss constantly in order to let the heroes escape, so they could be followed.
Also that their guns were supposedly mass produced crap compared to what the clone troopers had available.
I'm going with there needing to be billions of Stormtroopers to guard a galaxy spanning empire, so they super cut costs on the quality of equipment and training.
A galaxy-spanning empire has to have mass-produced everything for their troops.
Mass-produced does not automatically equate to shoddy quality.
Yeah, but I kinda get the impression they got their guns in happy meal boxes. Sort of picture the troopers gun repair kits consisting of that triangle head screwdriver and extra crayons for the placemats. "Damn it soldier, your armor is not supposed to be colored in!"
"But..HE coloured HIS in!"
"Black is not a colour, it's a shade, and besides, he's the boss"
So are they going to start releasing multiple Star Wars movies a year?
2015 is Episode 7
2016 is Rogue One
2017 is Episode 8
2018 is now Young Han Solo.
2019 would logically be Episode 9, so is the Boba Fett movie coming in 2020? Or are we getting two a year one year?
The E-11 blaster is a damn good blaster.
And yet, Luke and crew could fire theirs just fine and hit people left and right.
You really can't see anything out of them.
They slaughter their way through Leia's ship and across the surface of Tatooine.
Then on the Death Star, they're supposed to let the heroes go while making it look good. But what about after that?
Well, In ESB, they're super-competent on Hoth. A few get taken out by the Falcon, but they're infantry fighting a starship; this isn't surprising. Then on Cloud City, they're again working on Vader's plan to herd Luke into the carbonite chamber. They don't manage to capture Lando, Leia, and Chewie, but none of those three are slouches in a fight and with Lando they have home-field advantage (quite literally, as he turns the city against them and orders his security forces after them).
In RotJ? They're very good. They kill and capture some Rebels, injure Leia, and slaughter the Ewoks...it's just that the stormtroopers are Americans without camouflage fighting the Viet Cong with Special Forces support. And the Ewoks, you might recall, are vicious little fuckers.
...and that's it.
The meme of stormtroopers being failures as soldiers is a complete falsehood within the realm of the movies.
And in RotJ they only capture the Rebels via an ambush and trap, they don't beat the Ewoks and comparing them to the Viet Cong is a misnomer because the Ewoks had bows and arrows and rocks and Stormtroopers had armor and blasters.
That wasn't Zulu conquering the British. It was just incompetence. And that two boulders could take out an AT-ST when they couldn't take out a tank in the same manner is silly.
Do I seriously have to explain how physics works, and why something that can withstand gunfire will still be demolished if two buses run into it from opposite sides?
Ewoks eventually build space pirate ships and take out the whole damn galaxy with sharpened sticks.
it was midichlorians, I bet
It's superheated plasma and they have concussive resistance as well. And nothing that could be held up with vines is going to be as dense as a redwood or as heavy as a bus.
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I suppose next you're going to tell us that the imperial walkers were just models and the destruction of the death star occurred on a sound stage in hollywood
I forgot this cartoon existed. I really need to watch that. The man deserves so much more work.
We never once see an AT-ST taking fire on Hoth. Only the AT-AT.
I can't stop thinking about how amazing the choreography is and how much it puts all the other shit Lucas shat out involving Grievous to shame.
Like when he is fighting the Jedi and he is going back and forth, then switches from using his arms to just using his legs, and standing on his arms.
To when he is non-chalantly fighting one Jedi Master then just grabs a padawan with his foot and just chucks him into the fucking wall so hard it kills him. Yes, it kills him.
The three Saber, one foot stare-off.
How he is just taking out the elite Clone-trooper squad left and right (seriously, watch the whole series. That unit is the king-kong of badass.)
How he is silently waiting on the ceiling after he kills his first guy by jumping on him, then the slow taking out of lightsabers and unlatching of the foot and methodical ambush.
OH FUCK IT IS GREAT
Assaulting a hardened base in ESB? Yes, they're primarily armor support, as they should be.
Guards on the Deathstar? That's likely the D-teamers, as how often do you actually expect there to be a force to fight INSIDE the death star, as it's designed to blow planets, obviating the need for any ground invasion force. These are the warm bodies of the Empire forces.
lmao you think this
Or wait for ships to land on their planet and take them over like this one did.
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