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College Football: Da Coach O is a Superspreader

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    Grunt's GhostsGrunt's Ghosts Registered User regular
    Man, the football thread is so depressing between seasons.

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    VishNubVishNub Registered User regular
    Sometimes it's depressing during the season too.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    I dunno, our class kicked ass, Harbaugh keeps doing Harbaugh things. MSU is having roster issues. I enjoy it.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Michigan State's turn for sexual assault investigation. Three players and a coach suspended, police and Title IX investigation ongoing, outside law firm hired to investigate the coaching staff's compliance with University policy.

    Players are thus far unnamed.

    EDIT: Apologies to LJ Scott, the rumor around him is he was kicked off the team for severely beating another student after a stolen wallet incident.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    I cannot improve on this lede: Louisiana High School Coach Bans Nick Saban From Campus For "Not Being Ethical"
    Parkway High School (La.) coach David Feaster told 104.5 ESPN today that he’d no longer help Alabama recruit his players. They are free to choose to play for Alabama, but as Feaster said, Saban and other Alabama football reps won’t be welcome on campus anymore and “it had to do with not being ethical in their recruiting.”

    The enmity between Feaster and the Crimson Tide apparently dates back to the recruiting of four-star quarterback Brandon Harris. As Feaster tells it, Alabama offered Harris, but they were overly coy about whether his offer was an on-the-spot committable offer or simply a placeholder offer meant to keep Alabama in the mix for Harris without tying themselves to him early on in the process. Feaster says that Alabama eventually offered a scholarship to Harris, the second-ranked dual threat quarterback in the 2014 class, but even then they remained elusive about whether or not they wanted him, and he eventually committed to LSU:
    “By the time he gets to campus in June — and I’m not saying Brandon was going to commit to Alabama — it wasn’t an option. Basically what they told him is that we got other guys that are going to come through here, and I promised them a shot. So we have to wait and see then.”
    Alabama is a recruiting powerhouse, so it’s not like one school throwing a fit will hurt them, but Parkway High does have a pair of ESPN 300 prospects on its roster who will make their college decisions next year.

    So, it basically comes back to Saban seeing loyalty as a one way street.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    And in followup, the HS coach in the above story has been relieved of his coaching duties:
    Parkway High School (La.) coach David Feaster spoke very candidly about Alabama Crimson Tide head coach Nick Saban during an interview on 104.5 ESPN on Wednesday, and he’s now paid a price for that honesty.

    Feaster, who said in the interview that Saban was not welcome to recruit on his campus because of the way Alabama handled the recruitment of a Parkway player back in 2014, has been relieved of his coaching duties. The Shreveport Times reports that Feaster is still employed by the school but will no longer be coaching the football team. According to the Times, school officials did not appreciate Feaster acting as a spokesman for the whole school:
    The current Parkway administration didn’t take kindly to the attention and felt Fester was “undermining” school officials and potentially hurting other Panthers athletes who could be recruited by Alabama.

    The incident was the “third or fourth” for Feaster and ultimately his undoing.
    If you live and work in SEC country, crossing Nick Saban is never a great idea.

    This is disgusting. The coach was trying to do right by his players, and call out Saban's shitty ethics. But Saban is Footbaw God there, and can't have the boat getting rocked, can we?

    I so can't wait for the collapse of the NCAA, because I will bet that, when he stares down a future of having to actually deal fairly with players, Saban will fold like a cheap suit and retire.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    So, it's a day ending in "y", Baylor player revealed to be horrible goose:
    Baylor announced this afternoon that they had suspended football star Travon Blanchard after a McLennan County judge issued a protective order against him. Earlier this month, a woman that had been in a relationship with Blanchard filed for a legal order to keep Blanchard away from her, claiming that he had engaged in a pattern of violent behavior towards her, per KWTX. Blanchard is a senior safety with the Bears.

    The alleged victim reportedly filed an affidavit in support of the order request on Feb. 4, and she claims that the violence started on July 4 of last year, when Blanchard got mad that she was “having fun with some friends” and tried to drag her into her apartment:
    It says he “rushed the applicant, grabbed her by her wrists, began swearing and insulting her, and attempted to force himself and the applicant into her apartment.”

    Friends tried to intervene but Blanchard became “increasingly violent”, and police were called, the affidavit says.

    He continued to force her inside of her apartment in front of police, and let go only when “the police threatened him with an arrest for insubordination,” the affidavit says.
    She claims that in November, a tweet of hers enraged Blanchard and he grabbed both of her arms and “slammed her against the car, and threw her on the floor (similar to a football tackle).” The alleged pattern continued into the new year, as Blanchard allegedly beat her up after she received a Snapchat message from a male friend, then broke her finger after she talked to a male waiter at a restaurant. She said that Blanchard attempted to control her life and who she was allowed to talk to, and that he threatened to kill her when she tried to break up with him.

    @Oghulk, remind me why the NCAA hasn't penalized Baylor into oblivion?

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Because the NCAA is stupid as fuck.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Well, it's more to do with Penn State's punishment getting knocked down so the precedent being against them for vast conspiracies to conceal sexual assault.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Well, it's more to do with Penn State's punishment getting knocked down so the precedent being against them for vast conspiracies to conceal sexual assault.

    That's more because the NCAA is filled with cowards who folded like a cheap suit. Penn State's argument was morally atrocious (they were fundamentally arguing that the NCAA had no authority to stop child exploitation, which while possibly legally true, is the sort of argument that makes one look like a monster.)

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Well, it's more to do with Penn State's punishment getting knocked down so the precedent being against them for vast conspiracies to conceal sexual assault.

    That's more because the NCAA is filled with cowards who folded like a cheap suit. Penn State's argument was morally atrocious (they were fundamentally arguing that the NCAA had no authority to stop child exploitation, which while possibly legally true, is the sort of argument that makes one look like a monster.)

    Because morally atrocious but legally sound arguments never hold up in America.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Well, it's more to do with Penn State's punishment getting knocked down so the precedent being against them for vast conspiracies to conceal sexual assault.

    That's more because the NCAA is filled with cowards who folded like a cheap suit. Penn State's argument was morally atrocious (they were fundamentally arguing that the NCAA had no authority to stop child exploitation, which while possibly legally true, is the sort of argument that makes one look like a monster.)

    Because morally atrocious but legally sound arguments never hold up in America.

    It would have been winning the battle to lose the war (as we saw with their attempt to force their insurer to pay for the settlements, which blew up in their face.) They could very well have won (and again, I'd argue that trying to say that the NCAA has no obligation to combat child exploitation isn't the strongest legal foundation out there,) but in the process Penn State would be destroying their name - how, exactly, do you think it's going to look in the court of public opinion to argue that "we shouldn't be punished by the NCAA because it's not their place to punish us for enabling the rape of children"?

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Well, it's more to do with Penn State's punishment getting knocked down so the precedent being against them for vast conspiracies to conceal sexual assault.

    That's more because the NCAA is filled with cowards who folded like a cheap suit. Penn State's argument was morally atrocious (they were fundamentally arguing that the NCAA had no authority to stop child exploitation, which while possibly legally true, is the sort of argument that makes one look like a monster.)

    Because morally atrocious but legally sound arguments never hold up in America.

    It would have been winning the battle to lose the war (as we saw with their attempt to force their insurer to pay for the settlements, which blew up in their face.) They could very well have won (and again, I'd argue that trying to say that the NCAA has no obligation to combat child exploitation isn't the strongest legal foundation out there,) but in the process Penn State would be destroying their name - how, exactly, do you think it's going to look in the court of public opinion to argue that "we shouldn't be punished by the NCAA because it's not their place to punish us for enabling the rape of children"?

    Basically the same way it did, with the "real victims" heroically redeeming the school by beating Ohio State.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Well, it's more to do with Penn State's punishment getting knocked down so the precedent being against them for vast conspiracies to conceal sexual assault.

    That's more because the NCAA is filled with cowards who folded like a cheap suit. Penn State's argument was morally atrocious (they were fundamentally arguing that the NCAA had no authority to stop child exploitation, which while possibly legally true, is the sort of argument that makes one look like a monster.)

    Because morally atrocious but legally sound arguments never hold up in America.

    It would have been winning the battle to lose the war (as we saw with their attempt to force their insurer to pay for the settlements, which blew up in their face.) They could very well have won (and again, I'd argue that trying to say that the NCAA has no obligation to combat child exploitation isn't the strongest legal foundation out there,) but in the process Penn State would be destroying their name - how, exactly, do you think it's going to look in the court of public opinion to argue that "we shouldn't be punished by the NCAA because it's not their place to punish us for enabling the rape of children"?

    Basically the same way it did, with the "real victims" heroically redeeming the school by beating Ohio State.

    I don't think that really "redeemed" them, though. At the end of the day, Penn State now has a reputation for enabling child abuse and exploitation, and that's going to be something very hard to shake. And the sense I've gotten is that their behavior wound up making it worse - getting caught out by the insurer was not a good look. Yes, they'll have rabid fans in the area, but beyond that, I think you'll see a drop-off of support, because it's going to feel oogy to people.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    And back to Baylor, the Texas Rangers are finally investigating:
    Texas Department of Public Safety Tom Vinegar released the following statement to ESPN:
    “The Texas Rangers are working with the local prosecutor to conduct a preliminary investigation to determine if further action is warranted,” Vinegar said in a statement to ESPN.
    If this preliminary investigation leads to a more thorough interrogation of the university’s actions, let’s hope the Rangers manage to discover more than what was revealed in the Pepper Hamilton report. Actually writing their findings down would be a good start.

    Good. It's about time

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Well, it's more to do with Penn State's punishment getting knocked down so the precedent being against them for vast conspiracies to conceal sexual assault.

    That's more because the NCAA is filled with cowards who folded like a cheap suit. Penn State's argument was morally atrocious (they were fundamentally arguing that the NCAA had no authority to stop child exploitation, which while possibly legally true, is the sort of argument that makes one look like a monster.)

    Because morally atrocious but legally sound arguments never hold up in America.

    It would have been winning the battle to lose the war (as we saw with their attempt to force their insurer to pay for the settlements, which blew up in their face.) They could very well have won (and again, I'd argue that trying to say that the NCAA has no obligation to combat child exploitation isn't the strongest legal foundation out there,) but in the process Penn State would be destroying their name - how, exactly, do you think it's going to look in the court of public opinion to argue that "we shouldn't be punished by the NCAA because it's not their place to punish us for enabling the rape of children"?

    Basically the same way it did, with the "real victims" heroically redeeming the school by beating Ohio State.

    I don't think that really "redeemed" them, though. At the end of the day, Penn State now has a reputation for enabling child abuse and exploitation, and that's going to be something very hard to shake. And the sense I've gotten is that their behavior wound up making it worse - getting caught out by the insurer was not a good look. Yes, they'll have rabid fans in the area, but beyond that, I think you'll see a drop-off of support, because it's going to feel oogy to people.

    It was the story in the national media all of last fall. It was infuriating.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Well, it's more to do with Penn State's punishment getting knocked down so the precedent being against them for vast conspiracies to conceal sexual assault.

    That's more because the NCAA is filled with cowards who folded like a cheap suit. Penn State's argument was morally atrocious (they were fundamentally arguing that the NCAA had no authority to stop child exploitation, which while possibly legally true, is the sort of argument that makes one look like a monster.)

    Because morally atrocious but legally sound arguments never hold up in America.

    It would have been winning the battle to lose the war (as we saw with their attempt to force their insurer to pay for the settlements, which blew up in their face.) They could very well have won (and again, I'd argue that trying to say that the NCAA has no obligation to combat child exploitation isn't the strongest legal foundation out there,) but in the process Penn State would be destroying their name - how, exactly, do you think it's going to look in the court of public opinion to argue that "we shouldn't be punished by the NCAA because it's not their place to punish us for enabling the rape of children"?

    Basically the same way it did, with the "real victims" heroically redeeming the school by beating Ohio State.

    I don't think that really "redeemed" them, though. At the end of the day, Penn State now has a reputation for enabling child abuse and exploitation, and that's going to be something very hard to shake. And the sense I've gotten is that their behavior wound up making it worse - getting caught out by the insurer was not a good look. Yes, they'll have rabid fans in the area, but beyond that, I think you'll see a drop-off of support, because it's going to feel oogy to people.

    It was the story in the national media all of last fall. It was infuriating.

    That's because sportswriters are the one segment of our press that put the Village to shame when it comes to insipidness. Just because the toolbox from Bristol was pushing a redemption arc means that everyone was buying.

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    And back to Baylor, the Texas Rangers are finally investigating:
    Texas Department of Public Safety Tom Vinegar released the following statement to ESPN:
    “The Texas Rangers are working with the local prosecutor to conduct a preliminary investigation to determine if further action is warranted,” Vinegar said in a statement to ESPN.
    If this preliminary investigation leads to a more thorough interrogation of the university’s actions, let’s hope the Rangers manage to discover more than what was revealed in the Pepper Hamilton report. Actually writing their findings down would be a good start.

    Good. It's about time

    This is so fucking funny

    The Texas rangers are investigating the school that houses their history museum

    Talk about irony

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Today in For The Love Of God, Take The Keyboard Away From Them For Their Own Sake - Art Briles:
    Former Baylor head football coach Art Briles, who presided over a football program that remains mired in one of the biggest sexual-assault scandals in sports history, is still very upset that people want to place any blame on him for the fact that his players allegedly committed 52 rapes over the course of four years. Briles isn’t going to let his name get dragged through the mud any longer, and he’s got a sternly worded, batshit letter to prove it.

    You can read the entire letter at the bottom of the page, but here is the meat of it:
    First, that anyone (Baylor student or otherwise) has been hurt, physically, sexually, emotionally, or spiritually is tragic. I would do anything in my power to try and prevent that. Let me be clear: I did not cover-up any sexual violence. I had no contact with anyone that claimed to be a victim of sexual or domestic assault. Anyone well-versed in my work as a coach knows that I strove to promote excellence, but never at the sacrifice of safety for anyone. I did not obstruct justice on campus or off. When I was alerted that there might have been an assault, my response was clear: the alleged victim should go to the police, report it, and it should be prosecuted. And I never knowingly played anyone with a sexual assault allegation.

    [...]

    Third, rumor, innuendo, and out of context messages, emails, and comments have no place in a true fact-finding mission. The key to growth for the school begins with full transparency, not selective messaging. To participate, or worse yet, instigate such, is unfair to the victims, the accused, the programs, and all of Baylor Nation. I hope and pray that at some point, those feeding this disinformation will stop, and full disclosure rather than messaging misdirection will take place. It’s long overdue.
    Setting aside the specifics of what Briles did or did not know and what he did or did not do, it’s pretty rich for a person who occupied such a position of power on campus to believe that not intentionally obstructing justice clears the exculpatory bar. The fact is that an independent investigation revealed that Baylor’s entire power structure fell flat on its face when it was faced with allegations of athletes committing scores of sexual assaults, and Art Briles, as one of the biggest cogs in that structure, undoubtedly deserves a heaping portion of the blame.

    ...If Art Briles really believes that the Baylor scandal is in need of more transparency (we certainly agree!) he can get things started by releasing every email and text message he sent to—and recounting every conversation and phone call he had with—coaches, players, police, and other university officials during the time period that the alleged assaults took place. If he doesn’t want to do that, he can shut up and fuck off already.

    Doesn't he have anyone to explain to him how he's not helping his cause?

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    Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    It's good to see him come to terms with the fact that he'll never work again.

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    JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    Oh sure he will. He'll be a motivational speaker about how feminists are destroying the livelihoods of good, honest, straight white men on the southern religious university circuit.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Holy fuck, does the Baylor public affairs office consist solely of crickets?
    Baylor president David Garland spoke to the Chronicle of Higher Education about his school’s ongoing sexual assault scandal. It feels like every week there is a new development that makes Baylor look somehow worse than it already did, but Garland just can’t seem to understand why folks haven’t moved on already.

    From the Chronicle:
    “I don’t know any school that has been as transparent as we have and taken the extraordinary actions we have,” said Mr. Garland.

    [...]

    “We’ve also published, on our website, findings of fact which in many ways are findings of fault,” Mr. Garland added. “From a Christian perspective, we’ve confessed our sins, tried to repent and tried to make restitution.”
    I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen someone pack so many lies into so few sentences. That findings of fact report that Garland deems to have been such an extraordinary act of transparency was nothing more than a 13-page summary of the law firm Pepper Hamilton’s investigation into the school’s failure to handle sexual assault allegations. That summary contained almost no specifics, and there is no written record of Pepper Hamilton’s full investigation because the school asked the firm to deliver its report to the regents orally.

    As for Garland’s appeal to look at his school’s actions from a Christian perspective, all he’s doing here is pulling the same sleight of hand that so many institutions that operate under the umbrella of Christianity have pulled so many times before: He’s taking the concept of redemption to mean that properly-identified Christians, like himself, always have a free pass waiting for them. This is how a hollow document, a few scapegoat firings, and engaging in legal battles with victims become repentance. Being a good Christian means whatever the good Christian wants it to mean, and David Garland fancies himself a good Christian.

    How the fuck do you let the head of your university manage to shove his entire leg down his mouth?

    @Oghulk

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Holy shit they actually used the "confessed ourbsins" line.

    They're Baptists! They aren't Catholic! Fucking Christ on a burning ledge of lava

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    And news about a different school that covered up sexual abuse linked the the football team, disgraced former Penn State officials plead guilty to child endangerment:
    Former Penn State senior vice president Gary Schultz and former athletic director Tim Curley have both pleaded guilty to endangering the welfare of a child.

    The pleas were entered this morning, just a week before Schultz, Curley, and former Penn State president Graham Spanier were set to stand trial on accusations that their negligent handling of sexual assault allegations made against Jerry Sandusky in 2001 allowed Sandusky to continue molesting children. With Schultz and Curley pleading guilty, Spanier is the only defendant left in the case, and it is now possible that Schultz and Curley will testify on behalf of the prosecution.

    The charge Schultz and Curley pleaded guilty to is a misdemeanor charge that carries a maximum penalty of a $100,000 fine and five years in prison. According to PennLive, the judge presiding over the case made it clear that there was no agreement in place that would limit his sentencing power over Schultz and Curley in exchange for their pleas.

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    MvrckMvrck Dwarven MountainhomeRegistered User regular
    Good. Fuck them.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Apparently, Baylor can't stop being awful, as they have fired their associate director of football operations:
    According to the Waco-based TV station, Butler was fired because he sent inappropriate text messages to a teenager. A Baylor official wouldn’t comment on the messages, but told KWTX that the teen was legally an adult.
    While Butler was let go because of inappropriate texts to a teenager, a school official indicated they were sent to an individual who was an adult under Texas statute.
    The KWTX report doesn’t have any details about the content of the text or if they were sent to someone connected to Baylor. It then quotes Baylor athletics spokesman David Kaye, who confirms that Butler is no longer employed by the university followed by, in true Baylor fashion, “As a personnel matter, we have no further comment.”

    Yes, they went with the "above the age of consent" defense.

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    Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Texas is fun about that kind of stuff.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    I'm glad Baylor keeps showing that while Penn state was bad, they are a million times worse and are getting zero NCAA punishment.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    Fleur de AlysFleur de Alys Biohacker Registered User regular
    That's not really enough information. There's no commentary about whether or not the teenager was a student or otherwise in an inappropriate role or position, or whether or not the messages constituted harassment / were unwelcome. A glance at Butler's LinkedIn suggests he's 29 or 30 or so (based on college attendance, which could of course be way off). "Teenager" can include 19-year-olds, so there's a very narrow path where this is only mildly eyebrow-raising and could even constitute an overreaction as a result of prior incidents.

    But if he was fired, that suggests a complaint was probably filed, right? Which means this is almost certainly nowhere on that narrow path? And Texas is probably weird with its age laws, I'd guess, which makes it even more unlikely since they didn't state the age?

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    Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Seventeen is the AOC in Texas.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    The Sauce wrote: »
    That's not really enough information. There's no commentary about whether or not the teenager was a student or otherwise in an inappropriate role or position, or whether or not the messages constituted harassment / were unwelcome. A glance at Butler's LinkedIn suggests he's 29 or 30 or so (based on college attendance, which could of course be way off). "Teenager" can include 19-year-olds, so there's a very narrow path where this is only mildly eyebrow-raising and could even constitute an overreaction as a result of prior incidents.

    But if he was fired, that suggests a complaint was probably filed, right? Which means this is almost certainly nowhere on that narrow path? And Texas is probably weird with its age laws, I'd guess, which makes it even more unlikely since they didn't state the age?

    The conclusion people are making is that the person he texted was 17.

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    Fleur de AlysFleur de Alys Biohacker Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    Yeah that's bad.

    (my concern was that he was black, and that this could be racially motivated if he were texting some 19-yr-old white girl... I have zero faith in Baylor's administration)

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    ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    So, my office has this "Random Assignment NCAA March Madness Bracket" thing.

    I got Baylor.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Elvenshae wrote: »
    So, my office has this "Random Assignment NCAA March Madness Bracket" thing.

    I got Baylor.

    Karma has a laser sight and an eidetic memory, apparently.

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    ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    I mean, I also got URI, NC State women, and ... Montana State women?
    Elvenshae wrote: »
    So, my office has this "Random Assignment NCAA March Madness Bracket" thing.

    I got Baylor.

    Karma has a laser sight and an eidetic memory, apparently.

    Not sure what that means?

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Elvenshae wrote: »
    I mean, I also got URI, NC State women, and ... Montana State women?
    Elvenshae wrote: »
    So, my office has this "Random Assignment NCAA March Madness Bracket" thing.

    I got Baylor.

    Karma has a laser sight and an eidetic memory, apparently.

    Not sure what that means?

    Just that karma remembers what we do and finds interesting ways of getting revenge.

    And I have to laugh at you getting the Bobcats - my wife went there.

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    ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    I was wondering which particular sin you were referring to.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Not a basketball thread.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    What. The. FUCK.
    Lawyers for Baylor University filed yesterday a motion to dismiss the Title IX lawsuit that said no less than 31 football players committed 52 rapes between 2011 and 2014, under then-head coach Art Briles. The motion, filed in U.S. District Court in Texas, claims that “as a general rule, universities do not have a legal duty to protect their students from harm caused by other students.”

    The plaintiff, Elizabeth Doe, said in her lawsuit that she was gang raped by Baylor football players Tre’Von Armstead and Shamycheal Chatman on April 18, 2013, at her off-campus apartment. Doe’s lawsuit frames her case as indicative of a larger culture of sexual violence without consequences for Baylor football players under Briles. Armstead and Chatman were arrested earlier this month on charges related to that case.

    Baylor’s attorneys wrote in the motion to dismiss that the plaintiff’s case exceeds the two-year statute of limitations. Texas’s statute of limitations for sexual assault is five years; the statute for Title IX lawsuits is two years. But in a separate Baylor lawsuit, U.S. District Judge Robert Pitman ruled that accrual should start when the public became aware of Baylor’s handling—or lack thereof—of sexual assault cases.

    The university’s assertion that it is not the school’s responsibility to protect students from one another is an argument in support of its claim that the university was not negligent because it “did not breach any legal duty owed to the Plaintiff.” But what about Title IX, the federal law that mandates all schools receiving federal dollars take action to prevent sexual violence? The motion selectively quotes from another case, in which an appeals court ruled that a private teaching hospital wasn’t an educational program under Title IX, to then say that “Title IX does not ‘encompass every experience of life’ that a student may encounter.”

    How the fuck do these geese sleep at night? (Sadly, the answer is most likely "comfortably".)

    In good news, it looks like the Texas Lege has had enough of Baylor's gooseshit:
    As Baylor continues to insist that everything is just fine after admitting to making life miserable for women who reported they were raped, while simultaneously claiming it does “not have a legal duty to protect their students from harm caused by other students,” Texas lawmakers are considering a bill that would require Baylor, a private school, to comply with state open records laws. As part of that process, interim Baylor president David Garland testified before state senators Wednesday and offered pitiful excuses for why even he doesn’t know what exactly the lawyers who investigated the university-wide failure found.

    Baylor has, from the beginning, never been forthright about how and why it downplayed or even ignored reports of rape, especially from women who said they were assaulted by football players. First, they produced a vague, almost meaningless report filled with broad language that never named who in the administration was at fault. Baylor leaders intentionally didn’t create a detailed written report, which could become public, by having the lawyers at Pepper Hamilton deliver their findings orally. Then Baylor admitted that Pepper Hamilton had just done a “stress test” based on a “subset of specific cases” and never even reviewed all reports of sexual assault.

    And now today. The proposal would subject any college or university getting $5 million or more in financial aid grants to follow the same open records laws as public colleges and universities. Just Baylor and one other private university in Texas, the University of Incarnate Word in San Antonio, would fall in this category, according to the Texas Tribune. During the testimony, the senators repeatedly expressed their frustration with Baylor’s lack of transparency and explained why they felt the bill is necessary. Right after Garland praised Baylor for taking “the action that we did in firing basically a very successful football coach,” claimed other universities were “quite shocked” with Baylor’s transparency, and said “we were not trying to cover up what happened at Baylor,” Republican Sen. Kel Seliger dispensed with a veneer of polite credulity.

    “I’m sorry, but I don’t buy that for a minute. I don’t buy that for a minute. Maybe you aren’t [covering up today] today, but I think that is exactly what was going on and that’s exactly why this bill has been filed,” he said.

    Later in the testimony it became clear that Garland wasn’t even fully aware the full details of the Pepper Hamilton report, as he wasn’t in attendance when the findings were presented to the the board. Garland explained, “I was not in the city, I was on sabbatical leave.”

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    I get filing to dismiss, that's a normal thing, but their assertion that the school doesn't have a legal obligation is patently false.

    Like, on its face, just plain false. I'm no lawyer and I could tell you that.

    I hope the Texas legislature fuckin burns them down. Jesus what a fucked up school.

    Jesus. I mean I recall some teachers around me talking about how the Baylor thing is all played up and it's a perfectly fine and safe school, etc. etc.

    Well, according to Baylor itself, they're not obligated to make it a safe school. What a bunch of horse shit.

    I'm so glad my school (UT) has been pretty transparent with shit going wrong.

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